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Stop talking the microphone now. 00:00:00
OK. 00:00:13
I call the meeting to order of the Conservation Extension Committee meeting. 00:00:15
And taking roll call and everybody's here. 00:00:19
And we have no visiting board members. 00:00:24
Zenian or Nope, I don't see any public comment today. 00:00:28
So I'm looking for. 00:00:31
Motion to approve the minutes of the February 24th meeting. 00:00:34
Don't move this bill second. 00:00:40
I'll second. 00:00:44
Any discussion? 00:00:46
Those in favor signify by saying aye. 00:00:48
Aye. 00:00:50
OK. And one other thing. 00:00:51
On the agenda here. 00:00:54
Patty is going to speak instead of Kimberly. Kimberly is excused. So that's the only change that I see. And we got an amended 00:00:57
agenda and that was just the date change from the minutes, so. 00:01:02
OK, I guess. Umm. 00:01:06
You're up, Cindy. 00:01:09
All right, yeah, I'm gonna go over some of the the themes that were identified and and then I'm gonna the next step in this 00:01:13
process is already happening, the information that was collected. 00:01:20
During the forum, which was great, we had 39 people in attendance. 00:01:27
As well as our educators. So they took notes, we developed some themes and they're now. 00:01:32
The educators as well as the program area are working to develop a work plan. 00:01:37
That will be shared back with you as well as the county board. The timeline for that is they're going to get me the reports by the 00:01:42
end of. 00:01:47
April and I will talk to Andrew and Cameron in regards to what what we see and then give a, like Andrew said, a really high level 00:01:52
picture of what we're doing moving forward. 00:02:00
So the themes that were that came up and they're just this is going to be really brief our human development relationship. 00:02:08
Themes were to provide foundational support for parenting early childhood. 00:02:16
Support and education as well as combating isolation through community connection. 00:02:22
And social engagement. And I believe that was all for the aging population. 00:02:27
Our egg support was the sustainable. 00:02:33
Sustainability and growth of farming by supporting succession planning. 00:02:36
Addressing the needs of the migrant immigrant workers and improving, improving the public understanding and communication around 00:02:40
agricultural issues. 00:02:46
The youth development. 00:02:52
A piece, it really talked about the mental health. 00:02:54
Of youth and education and the support of families. 00:02:58
That are helping foster youth development. 00:03:02
Community Development talked a lot about communication. 00:03:06
And sustaining funding models to address the community's health, social and service needs. 00:03:10
So those are this really the high level. There's a lot more information that's being dug into. 00:03:16
So and we will be sharing that back soon. Is there any questions? 00:03:22
All right. 00:03:32
Any questions from the committee? 00:03:34
All right. I thought it went really well. I was, I thought the participation was well, I got the full report. Cindy sent me the 00:03:36
full report with the details that went through, went through the detailed report and. 00:03:41
In and then. 00:03:46
We will. 00:03:49
You said next month will be the work plan. Make sure to clarify work plans will be. 00:03:50
There. 00:03:54
They will probably be after. 00:03:56
The committee meetings is because the the deadline for the program areas. 00:03:59
The Educators is the end of the month. They actually are coming to committee in May, but I will get them the way the last part of 00:04:03
April. But I'll talk to you and Cameron once I do receive those. 00:04:10
OK. All right. 00:04:16
All right. Thank you. 00:04:19
Thank you. 00:04:21
Emmanuel here today or? 00:04:23
Oh, online too. Oh, there he is. OK, yes, yes, I am here. 00:04:26
Then well, OK. 00:04:30
All right. 00:04:31
Man, Manuel, you're up. 00:04:34
Can you hear me? 00:04:37
It's a well, he's he's here to answer any questions. He actually was part of ATV presentation. And I believe Amber's going to show 00:04:39
the clip of Manuel. I know Andrew, you and I talked about. 00:04:46
Adding this. 00:04:52
So everybody could see. 00:04:54
OK. 00:04:55
How we feed our cow is going to have a major impact on herd health, production and overall success of a farm. And there's a series 00:04:58
of upcoming events aimed at getting the latest research to producers. Manuel Pena is the bilingual regional dairy educator for 00:05:03
Sheboygan, Dodge, Fond du Lac and Ozaukee counties. We're happy to have you here today. Thank you so much for having me. Tell me 00:05:08
more about this meeting series. What are the Badger Dairy? 00:05:13
Feeding workshops. I had to get all those words in there right. 00:05:19
Correct. Well, as you were mentioning, this is the way Extension is bringing the latest research on nutrition. 00:05:21
We understand the importance of feeding the cows and how, and also by doing it right, we can increase the profitability of the 00:05:28
farms. 00:05:32
So we want to bring experts on the on this topic to talk to the feeders, the people who's involved in feeding the cows to make 00:05:36
their job better. 00:05:40
Or understand it better too and increase that new production that we all want. 00:05:45
So that answers a bit of the next question, but who should attend this meeting? Yes, yes. Well, anyone involved in feeding the 00:05:50
cows, but also anyone interested on it. But people that feed the cows, people mixing the diet, the herd management, management 00:05:56
people. 00:06:01
But also anyone who wants to understand better feeding the house is probably 1 if not the most important activity in a very. 00:06:08
Farm and. 00:06:16
We want to. 00:06:18
Talk about it to understand it better. 00:06:19
So anyone who is. 00:06:21
Willing to understand it better then should join those meetings, talk a bit about your background and it brings that Spanish 00:06:23
language component to the table. Why is that so critical? Well, yeah. 00:06:28
Well, I'm from Colombia, South America. My mother language is Spanish. 00:06:33
And through some research that the university has done, there's probably more than 85% of Latin community that works in dairy 00:06:38
farms does, and not all of them speak. 00:06:44
English does. It's very important to bring material that they can understand, so. 00:06:50
Probably most of the things that we're producing at Extension right now, we try to do them bilingual. So, so it's more accessible 00:06:56
for everybody. Yeah. How do we register for these events? You have them happening all over the region, right, Right. There's, I 00:07:01
think, 5 events. 00:07:05
Through this month till April happening. 00:07:11
On Wednesdays, and if anyone wants to join those events, they just have to register online. They can visit 00:07:15
dairy.extension.wisc.edu. And just like it's very easy to find that information, or they can also reach out their local educator. 00:07:21
Wonderful. Well, it was so great to meet you. Thank you for being on the show. We hope to have you back and we hope to see you at 00:07:27
one of these meetings. If you are feeding animals on your farm, we'll have a link in the Midwest farm section of 00:07:33
wearegreenbay.com. We'll see you next weekend. Thank you. 00:07:39
Can you guys hear me? 00:07:56
Yeah, we can hear you. 00:08:01
Yeah, that was good. That was good clip. When did that run? 00:08:03
That was wrong. 00:08:06
On the. 00:08:08
Week before. 00:08:10
The starting presentation which was. 00:08:12
March 5th so bro at the end of January. 00:08:15
At the end of January, yeah. 00:08:18
How do you get them to do that? 00:08:21
Well, another of my colleagues was asked if they could go to that kind of interview. 00:08:25
And and they referred to me. I don't know why they didn't want to like the person that reach out didn't want to it. 00:08:33
I think there were like she was having some health issues. 00:08:40
And then I took advantage to it and I think it was a great opportunity also to meet. 00:08:44
The interviewer, which was very, very nice and kind and very. 00:08:51
She was also eager to get to learn more about what we do and probably. 00:08:55
Get to have more collaboration in the future, I think was a great opportunity and I liked. 00:09:00
The effect that he had because we. 00:09:06
We had this. 00:09:09
Program. 00:09:12
Going on, but also we had. 00:09:13
Our covering management practices that went right before and we had like an increased interest from the community. 00:09:17
Because after the after the fact. 00:09:24
And then we had we were sold out for the. 00:09:28
Spanish presentation for that one and we are expecting like a good amount of. 00:09:31
Participant participants for this meeting coming on. 00:09:36
Wednesday. 00:09:41
OK. Any other questions from the committee? 00:09:45
No. Great job. Great job. And how? 00:09:48
Like to get that program. Not everybody sees things online. How? How? 00:09:51
How do you get this information to our farmers in Dodge County that are Spanish speaking to the workers and the dairy? How are you 00:09:56
going to? 00:10:00
Communicate. 00:10:04
Right. Well, there is. There is a. 00:10:06
Website where all the dairy farms are registered for Wisconsin. 00:10:10
And and those have the addresses. We are not allowed to reach them by emails or calling them. 00:10:14
But we are allowed to send them information that we think is important to us using the Postal Service. 00:10:22
And we did send an invitation to everyone of them. 00:10:29
Physically in both English and Spanish. OK, that's, that's good. All right. 00:10:33
All right. 00:10:40
Hearing no questions. Thank you very much. I appreciate you coming on and showing us that that's a great, great thing you did. 00:10:42
Yeah. Thank you guys and thanks for sharing it, OK. 00:10:48
All right. 00:10:53
Cindy, the extension in action. Monthly highlights. 00:10:56
That's the attachment you sent us with the packet. Is that what that is? 00:11:00
Yeah, and that's just something that we'll send out every month. 00:11:05
To our partners at Extension and Action. 00:11:11
Piece. So we're just sharing that with it. There's no additional information unless you have. 00:11:13
Questions. 00:11:19
Questions from the committee that was in your packet. 00:11:22
Just about what each departments doing. 00:11:24
Nope, I think. 00:11:26
I think that's it for that. OK, Patty. 00:11:30
Should I come here? 00:11:33
You can be. 00:11:36
So I'm pinch hitting for Kimberly. 00:11:40
And I hope you get to have Kimberly report to you all soon. Just to remind you, my name is Patty Carroll and I am. 00:11:44
The title is Human Development and Relationships Educator. 00:11:52
And I just always like to remind people in human development and relationships, there are three primary program areas, financial 00:11:56
literacy, education. 00:12:01
Education for aging population and then education for parenting and early childhood development. My primary area of expertise is. 00:12:06
Family development. That's what I got my master's degree in, but I do program in all of the areas I've highlighted, for example. 00:12:16
Planning ahead which is an end of life 6 or 7 module curriculum where people learn. 00:12:24
A toolkit on how to make decisions for planning for end of life. 00:12:32
But today I would like to focus on early childhood education. Cindy highlighted some of the. 00:12:36
Higher level things that resulted from our listening session. And one of the things that at the human development and 00:12:45
relationships table that we talked about was the fact that. 00:12:50
Parents are needing support and early childhood. 00:12:56
Centers, Daycare centers are needing support and helping to develop. 00:13:00
Children. 00:13:06
Children. 00:13:07
Birth to 5. And so I just wanted to highlight a little bit of the ways that I support early childhood education. 00:13:08
The first is. I'm a registered trainer in. 00:13:15
The state of Wisconsin's registry that is a database where all early childhood educators are required to get 15 hours of 00:13:19
professional development and I want why this is important and significant is early childhood educators get paid on average 11 00:13:28
bucks an hour and yet the state of Wisconsin and licensing requires them to get. 00:13:37
15 hours of professional development. 00:13:46
And so extension is a really good source for them to get free high quality. 00:13:48
Research evidence based professional development. 00:13:55
So I provide professional development for and they get the registry credits for early childhood both. 00:13:58
Virtually and in person. 00:14:07
So for example. 00:14:09
Last month I went to Community Care which is a daycare center in Beaver Dam and during their monthly. 00:14:11
Staff meetings. I provided them with an hour of professional development. 00:14:21
Next or this month? 00:14:26
Is it April already? Yes, April. Oh my gosh, you guys in April, I'm going to future All Star Academy here in Juneau and providing 00:14:28
professional development for them during their staff meeting. And I do that in person and then also virtually. But the second area 00:14:34
that I really support early childcare is bringing together the directors, the owners, the operators, the people, the mostly women, 00:14:41
but there are some men. 00:14:47
Who run early childcare and it's called a director's caucus. 00:14:55
So what research shows is in any industry, you need opportunities. 00:15:00
To network with each other. To learn about best practices. To learn about licensing updates. To learn about legislative updates. 00:15:05
And to get information and ideas from each other and so I convened this group together. 00:15:13
And I just was going to point out to you because we just did the listening session. 00:15:20
And I want you to understand that in extension educators. 00:15:25
Do we do take a survey and we do I just. 00:15:29
I I'm this is my convoluted way of saying that I just with Watertown, the Greater Watertown Area Health Foundation, we conducted a 00:15:35
survey of the directors. 00:15:41
To make sure that what we're doing with them is meeting their needs and I pulled up the results the the survey is still open for 00:15:47
two more weeks and I'm bringing this up because it kind of coincides with our listening session that we when when I work with a 00:15:52
group of people I also. 00:15:58
Periodically. 00:16:04
Ask them, hey, are you getting what you need from what we're doing? Do we need to change? Do we need to pivot? And I just pulled 00:16:06
up 6/6 of the 42 people that it was sent to have responded to it. And it's very interesting because we had been meeting monthly 00:16:12
and overwhelmingly so far they want the meetings to be quarterly. And but it's the, the survey talks about dosage, it talks about 00:16:19
content like what do you need? What do you need more of? 00:16:25
And I'll share those results with you as well. 00:16:32
So I just wanted to highlight how I'm supporting early childcare. 00:16:36
But I'm open to any question about any of the programming that I do. 00:16:40
And I'm. 00:16:45
You know, always open either through phone calls or stopping in my office. 00:16:46
Or right now if you have questions about about the support for early childhood or. 00:16:51
Or anything that I do. 00:16:56
Is there sufficient capacity in the county for? 00:16:58
Early childhood owed enough chairs. 00:17:01
For the. 00:17:03
People that want to bring their. 00:17:05
Families that's an excellent question and something that not just extension me, I'm an educator, but Nate Olsens been really 00:17:06
trying to figure out. 00:17:11
What we consider. 00:17:17
Dodge County as a desert, a childcare desert, so and the Greater Watertown Area Foundation also has really been. 00:17:19
Providing grant funding for, for example, Willows Childcare, Joan Beck's childcare center, they received some funding to open up 00:17:28
seats. 00:17:33
Because there's not. In fact, our the the gal Allison before Manuel. 00:17:39
She couldn't find childcare in Dodge County. 00:17:47
And so that is, that is like an economic development. I know that Dodge County has been working. 00:17:50
On it but. 00:17:57
That's a good question, and no, there isn't enough. 00:17:58
And it's difficult and it's very multifaceted problem. 00:18:02
Part of it is that we can't get people. 00:18:07
Young people to get into that industry so they don't have. 00:18:09
A workforce. 00:18:14
Can you put a number on the underserved population? How many hundreds? Thousands of? 00:18:15
No, but I'm gonna just take a note here because I don't have it at the top of my head. 00:18:20
So in. 00:18:26
Our partner, UW Extension partners with Applied Population Lab in Madison. It's a research lab and they did a bunch of research on 00:18:28
the on the childcare deserts. 00:18:34
And. 00:18:40
I can get that information and put it together for you. 00:18:41
Or everybody if you. 00:18:46
You're wanting to know how many kids are without childcare in? 00:18:48
Or they can't find childcare. Is that correct? Yeah. 00:18:53
On Friday I was out to dinner at the pub in Mayville and I saw the construction of the Nude Big Daycare in Mayville. Yeah, that 00:18:56
is, it's framed Owl did. I don't know if you've seen a picture of that. I will e-mail that to you and a Cameron. 00:19:02
So that's, is that $2.8 million and I believe 60. It's huge. I couldn't believe it. I went there. What is that? Oh, yeah, it's the 00:19:07
daycare, the new daycare. It's huge. And that's a partnership, I believe with several of the factories. Isn't that does that, is 00:19:13
that sound right to you? That does with, with, with St. John's. It's like a partnership arrangement with different partners, 00:19:19
right? That's, and they, they, they meaning entities that are trying to work on the childcare desert. That is a very good example 00:19:24
of. 00:19:30
Of triangulating the problem so business. 00:19:37
Private entity and grant funding, but that's just one example. 00:19:40
So. 00:19:45
Yeah, but it's going right now, which is exciting. Yeah, so, and I know they built it on faith. I don't think they have the money. 00:19:46
I think they borrowed the money. I don't think they have at all, You know what I mean? To build that $3,000,000 facility, so. 00:19:52
Yeah, I don't have the particulars, but. 00:19:57
I'll get that to you though, and Cameron, get it to Cameron. I just saw it on Friday and it's like, wow, that's great news. 00:20:00
Any other questions for Patty? 00:20:07
You see, you had a pretty robust, I saw your notes from the forum. You had a lot of a lot of stuff in there in the theme. I think 00:20:09
you talked about building trust. 00:20:14
Support for obviously parents early childhood combat isolation, but awareness seems to be. 00:20:20
And I looked at actually all of the all of the notes on those. Awareness seems to be a theme that keeps coming back. As I was just 00:20:26
telling you prior to the meeting today, we have to get people aware of the services you have and hopefully like you connect. 00:20:33
With this center in Mayville to help educate their Yeah, you know what I mean? We need to be there, we need to let them know and 00:20:40
that we're here and. 00:20:44
But I think once people realize the resource you have, then I think we can make a big difference. So another just a small example, 00:20:49
one of the. 00:20:54
Challenges for early child care is the revolving door of. 00:21:00
The people who work there, their staff, because it is people are underpaid and maybe they they get a degree or they move on to a 00:21:04
school system. 00:21:09
So that there's a revolving door of staff. 00:21:14
And so I'm part of a state team working on some professional development and we're working with a state partner thriving Wisconsin 00:21:17
to create a basics so that they that there will be professional development so that when staff is turning over there's. 00:21:26
There's there's training for them. And so that would work. That would be something that it'll probably be perfect timing for the 00:21:34
Mayville. 00:21:38
Center when it opens up, but. 00:21:43
Yeah, when you talk about the numbers, getting the numbers here, ah. 00:21:47
How do you measure all those hidden costs? Right, because people quit looking for work because they can't get childcare, so 00:21:52
they're not showing up as actively looking and. 00:21:55
That number strikes me as far bigger than the active number looking, yeah. How do you try to capture that? 00:21:59
You know. 00:22:08
So in my in my area of expertise and in my program area human development relationships. 00:22:10
To me, that's like an economic. 00:22:16
It is impact, yeah. And so like my work is going way upstream. 00:22:20
So that little kids grow up and they can think and they can reason and they and then they can be in the workforce, right? 00:22:26
But. 00:22:33
What you're referring to is, so if people can't find childcare and then the mom or the dad say I'm going to just stay home and 00:22:34
take care of the baby, what is the economic impact in our communities for that? And I'm just old enough that I have my very first 00:22:39
grandbaby. 00:22:44
And. 00:22:50
This is in Dane County, if you can believe it. And in Dane County there are childcare desert too. They couldn't find care. And so 00:22:51
then the option was she's a high school teacher. Do you know how important it is for high school teachers to have really good 00:22:58
teachers in the high school? And she was that close to not being able to go back to work to support high school kids. But then 00:23:06
they they were able to find care when an opening came up. So good question and I will find out for Dodge County. I don't know. 00:23:13
To measure that economic impact, there are hidden costs to it for sure. 00:23:21
Down in general city, there's a clothing. 00:23:26
For they so on different logos and stuff, yeah, they've had for the past probably 20 years the daycare center on site. 00:23:30
So what is the name of the company? I can't remember in what city. General city, just on the border. 00:23:36
Is that? 00:23:42
Common or uncommon? 00:23:43
Umm, maybe there's 11:50 young ones there. 00:23:46
I I don't know if it's common or uncommon. I I don't know that. 00:23:48
I'm trying to think of quad graphics because they have their they do they have childcare? Yes. 00:23:54
And that is something that. 00:24:00
We and the Foundation, the Greater Watertown Area Foundation, trying to educate. 00:24:03
Umm, businesses. 00:24:08
And I don't know what the businesses are involved. I don't know who they are that are involved in the Mayville one, but it's true. 00:24:10
If you could find a successful model like that and help educate. 00:24:15
Umm, businesses in Dodge County to support early childcare and then also we've been thinking and trying to figure out. 00:24:21
How Dodge County? 00:24:29
Which is one of the biggest employers? 00:24:32
In. 00:24:34
The area. 00:24:36
Is it feasible that that the county provide childcare? 00:24:38
For their employees, because think of all of the women and men who work over at Clearview. 00:24:42
You know, and there they could they use. 00:24:48
Have we looked at that seriously? No, we we haven't. I mean, we keep talking about it. There's a there's there. 00:24:51
So first, I think it starts, Andrew with a feasible, I don't want to call it a feasibility study, but maybe a survey to all of the 00:25:00
employees. Is this something you would use? Is this something that would benefit you? And then what would the economic impact be 00:25:07
if Dodge County? So we in Juneau, we have Trisha, but then also in Beaver Dam. 00:25:15
Community Care, they have Wilson School which is a huge school, so there could be. 00:25:24
Some infrastructure already in place. 00:25:29
But then. 00:25:32
What are the pieces to make it happen? 00:25:33
You know what other counties have done it recently was that. 00:25:35
A couple counties have done it not far from here, right. There are a couple. I know I saw a couple stories on it. So yeah, yeah. 00:25:38
Anyway, you don't have to tell me now, but is that, is that something you could incorporate in your work plan to at least at least 00:25:44
to do the info part? Yeah, I could. I can help create and I have a program manager that can help me create a survey, an interest 00:25:50
survey for. 00:25:57
Employees around it and then because of my network with early childcare. 00:26:03
I could help and it would. This is high level. This would be Cameron and Dave and like you know, and then the location. 00:26:09
How would this work? Would they be county employees? Would they? Would they subcontract with the county like? 00:26:19
Those are way higher level than, but it's within it's, it's one of our top 11 strategic initiatives for the next many years on the 00:26:25
County Board. So it is right in line with what the County Board wants. And I do think it's something that Nate. 00:26:32
Upstairs. 00:26:40
Extension Patty, Carol, in whatever capacity, Pat Malone, our community development person. Cameron A decision makers. 00:26:41
If we. 00:26:50
If we roll our sleeves up. 00:26:51
I think there's a lot of barriers, there's a lot of things that we would have to. 00:26:54
Flesh out. 00:26:59
I think it. I mean, you have to dream big, right? 00:27:00
To solve big problems. 00:27:04
I don't think anyone in this committee would object to. 00:27:07
Looking into that, I think it's. 00:27:10
Very good. 00:27:12
What we've been talking about, I know I've been talking about for a long time. We haven't done anything. I say, I say let's look 00:27:14
at it. Yeah. 00:27:16
And I'm not correcting you I because I had a long meeting with Nate and I don't know that. 00:27:19
There hasn't been anything done is just such a hard problem and it feels like you're beating your head against the wall. But First 00:27:26
things first, I can. 00:27:30
Absolutely do an interest survey and I can work with human resources upstairs to get it. 00:27:35
Emailed out. 00:27:42
To everybody, let's put it in the plan and then let's get. 00:27:43
This to go through all the right steps. 00:27:47
Yeah, I was gonna say that I think, I think an interest surveys premature. Yeah, because like what are you? What are you? What are 00:27:49
you saying to them? They'll be like sure. It depends. It depends on what you're going to charge me, right. Yeah, so. 00:27:55
It depends. Is the county running it? Is it private using county facilities like? 00:28:03
They have to give a little bit more sense about what they're thinking of. 00:28:07
But the reason these things never happen is because we always look at the budget and we say the budget drives process. 00:28:10
But we lose millions of dollars and turn over millions retraining it Turnover is cost businesses get. 00:28:16
That turnover is a fortune. 00:28:24
But public sector? 00:28:26
Doesn't put the cost of turnover. 00:28:28
In their budget and so they ignore it and it's a huge cost. 00:28:31
But because it's not in the budget, they go, well, we don't have the money for that. And not realizing how much money you save 00:28:36
when you got the same employees consistently. 00:28:40
Working and Clearviews got a huge turnover issue. 00:28:44
Huge nurses, LPN's, the flexies. 00:28:50
Yeah, it's crazy. 00:28:54
Yeah. And so imagine if they were, if their child was in a childcare center less like and you could guarantee them for 5-10 years. 00:28:55
05 would be amazing. 5 would be amazing. Yeah. 00:29:01
OK, I know several schools. 00:29:08
To help alleviate some of this issue, they've not only started 4K programs, but they also have 3K programs now and we have a. 00:29:11
A morning before and after to where they can drop their school kids off maybe an hour early and come pick them up an hour 2 hours 00:29:20
later. 00:29:25
To help with the work work issues. So schools are also working at this, but I'm not aware of any schools that do anything younger 00:29:29
than three-year olds right? You are absolutely correct and. 00:29:35
It so. 00:29:42
Those programs also take employees away from early childcare and so there's a weird territorial it's a very sticky wicket. 00:29:45
Umm and it's, it's one of those really high level problems and it is really difficult because you're right and those benefit 00:29:56
families, no doubt about it. But then the childcare center over here. 00:30:03
Is losing their employees to the school district who can maybe pay a little bit more or Yeah. 00:30:09
So. 00:30:16
Let's not be different John. 00:30:18
So those young kids. 00:30:19
3 year old. 00:30:21
Does that counter their enrollment so they get more state aid? 00:30:22
Yeah, but it's it's. 00:30:27
It's proportionate, so it's not like a kindergarten kid. It's it's a less. 00:30:29
This amount so it does help a little bit but. 00:30:36
Not significant. 00:30:38
Yeah. 00:30:40
Any other thoughts? 00:30:42
Not. 00:30:44
Something definitely have to get. 00:30:46
Fix and we've been talking about way too long. 00:30:47
Yeah, child care, health care, those are two main problems while. 00:30:49
I was in, I was in healthcare management for 13 years, so. 00:30:53
A Childcare was always a big thing. If we can't get this solved, we're not going to solve our workforce problem either. 00:30:59
So, and I know Lisa and I have talked about it for years now. 00:31:04
It's why do we continue to talk about things? I will we do something once. 00:31:11
And that's just frustrating. So many different levels. 00:31:16
So I love to see something finally done instead of just doing surveys talk. We talk all the time. Stop talking and get something 00:31:19
done and not. 00:31:23
Direct that to you. I know, I'm just saying this. 00:31:27
Put that on record. 00:31:31
Well, that would that's what our right, I understand form is. So that was the first step would be to put it in our workplace. 00:31:32
Nothing has been gone off of it honestly, that was we did that for. 00:31:38
How many seem like? 00:31:43
Two years, yeah. 00:31:45
And we have not done anything that was worthwhile off. So I like to see this finally have something to do with. 00:31:46
Let's do something. 00:31:54
I'm just frustrated a lot of different levels with. 00:31:57
Lot of stuff. 00:31:59
So, but let's get childcare. 00:32:01
Done. And let's do something. 00:32:03
Instead of just saying, let's do another survey. 00:32:07
I've done thousands of surveys in my life. 00:32:10
And is what it is. 00:32:13
But let's get it done. 00:32:15
So I'll just leave it at that. 00:32:18
Well, I, I have consistent meetings with Cameron, just whatever and not whatever. I'm sorry, that was disrespectful. I have 00:32:19
meetings with him. And so maybe I. 00:32:24
Yeah, you could communicate our interest. 00:32:31
For sure, agricultural and economic development. 00:32:34
In with Nate too, and then Morgan from upstairs. She's on maternity right now. So so I mean it's very, very much. 00:32:38
On top of mind. 00:32:46
Because of. 00:32:48
You know, just life circumstances. I think you'd be surprised how many people would use it if it was offered. I wouldn't be 00:32:49
surprised. I, I, I wouldn't. 00:32:53
I think there's a county near us that did it and launched it successfully if I'm not mistaken. 00:32:58
And they are and they are successful. Is that Jefferson, maybe? Or was it? 00:33:04
Who was that there was a county nearby. I know I've seen it's just not last day fro line knows yeah. So maybe that would be the 00:33:07
launched it and it is successful. 00:33:13
They partnered. 00:33:20
The county partnered with other. 00:33:21
Said childcare centers, No with businesses. Businesses, OK. 00:33:23
Factories, you know. 00:33:28
Employers. 00:33:29
That they could have so many come to SO. 00:33:31
OK. Well, thank you very much. 00:33:34
OK. 00:33:41
Switching over to conservation. 00:33:43
I don't see Cory. So Matt. 00:33:47
Or your quarry. OK, up, Slayer. OK, that's good. 00:33:49
I guess. 00:33:54
Hello everyone. 00:33:56
Worries in Fond du Lac today so. 00:33:57
I will be here so air. 00:34:01
So basically our workload right now we're working on completing our last equipped contracts for this first sign up. Typically this 00:34:04
is our biggest like equip sign up for the year. 00:34:09
We had roughly 10. 00:34:15
That were pre approved for funding in Dodge. 00:34:17
Right now we have 9 of them obligated, so we're working on the last one. 00:34:21
This is a variety of practices. We had one manure storage system. 00:34:26
A couple wetland complex like scrapes and berms and stuff. 00:34:32
Some cover crops of no till stuff. 00:34:37
Some tree planting forestry stuff. So it was a wide variety of practices that got pre approved. 00:34:42
Our next workload is working on our CSP applications we have received. 00:34:49
For our CSP Classic sign up, we've had roughly 25 different applications throughout the year, so. 00:34:54
Our process now is to get those assessed so we can get them ranked and get them pre approved for funding. 00:35:01
Your guess is as good as ours on how many will get pre approved, but we still got the whole process to go through. 00:35:08
Umm, couple meetings ago we brought up a civil rights checklist that can be scratched. We're no longer. 00:35:15
Required to do that so. 00:35:24
Kind of forget that ever happened. 00:35:26
Our next? 00:35:29
Contract obligation deadline is. 00:35:31
April 4th, so that last equip we just got to get done by next week. 00:35:34
And then we switched to our April 25th deadline, which is when we need all of our CSP. 00:35:39
Conservation Stewardship Program applications assessed and ranked so. 00:35:44
This next month is basically our CSP workload month. 00:35:50
Basically get those all hammered out but. 00:35:54
Other than that, any questions? 00:35:57
And things were working on. 00:35:59
So unequipped. 00:36:02
Cost share, is that a 5050 cost share? 00:36:03
It's, it's per practice, it's roughly 50 to 70%, um. 00:36:06
I would say some of the some of the practices that have like earthwork and diesel fuel involved are probably closer to 50 because 00:36:12
of. 00:36:17
It's not taken in account. 00:36:21
Fuel prices and a lot of stuff, but. 00:36:22
Cover crops and some of those cropland practices are probably closer to 70%. 00:36:25
So how does future funding look or is that? That's a good question. That's a never ending question we've been getting. 00:36:33
We are kind of, we're kind of locked into our farm bill programs through the end of the fiscal year, so September 30th. 00:36:43
From there. 00:36:51
I don't know. Stuff's going to get restructured and. 00:36:53
Reallocated but. 00:36:56
At least our equip and CSP dollars that's kind of allocated throughout the end of the year. 00:36:58
Anything that has inflation Reduction Act, that's kind of an. 00:37:04
Put the kibosh on there's none of that anymore. But we still have our classic signups, our farm bill signups, so. 00:37:08
We learn new stuff every day though, so that could switch. 00:37:18
With that cave. 00:37:22
Thank you. 00:37:24
All right. 00:37:25
Matt, good morning, everyone. Morning. 00:37:31
So just to give you guys an update, as you probably heard, they passed the continuing resolution that keeps us funded through 00:37:36
August. So hopefully everything goes smoothly. 00:37:42
I don't know what their plan is past that, but. 00:37:47
So we're still working on the dairy program DMC. 00:37:51
That's got a March 31st closing date. 00:37:55
On that. So we are probably close to 80% through our producers in the county for that we've got some. 00:37:58
Scheduled for this week. 00:38:06
That wanted to wait till the last possible day to see what the projections were before they signed up. 00:38:09
We are also working simultaneously with the ARC Place program, which is our original commodity program. 00:38:14
That one's April 15th deadline. 00:38:22
Umm. So I think we're probably 7075%. 00:38:26
Signed up with that one. 00:38:31
So we're making good progress there. 00:38:33
And then last week, you may have heard they announced their new program, The Emergency. 00:38:36
Commodity Assistance Program. This is the one that came from the funding that was passed in December. 00:38:42
That program. 00:38:48
Is rolled out. We should start making payments there probably this week. 00:38:50
That's going to August 15th deadline. 00:38:56
This program, just to give you guys a little bit of a heads up is. 00:38:59
Simplified program from what we normally do, it's paying directly on commodities. 00:39:03
That producers have crop reported on, it's got different payment rates for different commodities. 00:39:09
And of course, there's a factor rate. I think they're using 85%. 00:39:14
So there's some pretty good payments coming out. 00:39:19
This program. 00:39:21
The application is very simplified, it's a one page. 00:39:24
Document. 00:39:27
They are going to start mailing prefilled applications to producers this week. 00:39:29
They're pulling information directly from your crop report in 2024. 00:39:35
Pre filling the application, all you have to do is review and sign it if there's any corrections that need to happen. 00:39:40
Based on the crop report information. 00:39:47
Then you'll need to come into the office. 00:39:50
Otherwise, you can come in, sign up electronically, or come sign up in person in our office. 00:39:52
So as you can imagine with this program and the other two programs, we are kind of swamped right now, which is a good thing. We're 00:39:58
not complaining, but little patients. I think we're out making appointments probably a week, 2 weeks. 00:40:05
From today if you want to get in so. 00:40:12
Ladies are doing a wonderful job of handling the information, learning a new program and less than. 00:40:15
Two weeks getting it. 00:40:21
On the ground so producers can receive some financial assistance. 00:40:23
That's pretty much all I have for right now. Is there any questions for me? 00:40:29
Is it on all commodities or is it? 00:40:34
Based on income at all? 00:40:37
It's not based on income at all, it's there is a payment limitation. However 125,000 is the maximum anyone producer can receive. 00:40:39
The commodities that they're using is a specific list of commodities. 00:40:49
Corn, soybean, wheat, barley. That array of commodities? No alfalfa, no vegetable crops. 00:40:55
Anything like that so. 00:41:02
Pretty straightforward. And like I said, it's going directly off of the acreage that the producers have reported for 2024. 00:41:04
Thanks SO. 00:41:12
Pretty simple that way. 00:41:14
Any other questions? 00:41:16
OK. Appreciate your time, guys. Thank you. 00:41:19
I didn't have you on the agenda, but I mean, you could go back to public comment. This is Dylan Bell. He's the county forester. 00:41:27
Just a little bit of an update of what's been going on come up, come up to the mic so it's recorded after. 00:41:37
Fire season and prescribed burnings been keeping me pretty busy. 00:41:46
Occasional land owners, site visits and phone calls from land owners and Dodge County. 00:41:50
For those that don't know, I cover both Dodge and Columbia counties. 00:41:55
Tree planting starting to gear up. 00:42:01
Been getting calls on tree planter rentals. 00:42:05
Finally got the date so when the state seedling orders are going to be delivered. So I'll be getting letters out to the land 00:42:08
owners let them know when to pick up seedlings. 00:42:13
Number of seedlings have been pretty well on par with past years. 00:42:18
Nothing out of the ordinary there. 00:42:22
Once letters go out, you usually start getting a few phone calls of people looking for planters. 00:42:25
Mild winter as far as snow cover, but temps were more what we're used to. 00:42:34
So that with a lack of snow cover, definitely had a lot more wildfires this winter as well. 00:42:40
So that. 00:42:46
Not our typical fire season, so it definitely took time away from forestry work. 00:42:48
Other than that, no real new diseases, insect problems on the horizon at the moment. 00:42:54
Most of the ash has been wiped out by emerald ash borers, so. 00:43:02
Promoting species tree species for land owners that can help recapture those sites. 00:43:06
Get something growing in those lowlands besides Reed Canary grass. 00:43:12
Sorry any question. 00:43:19
Thank you. 00:43:23
We do have a tree planter that the county owns and Dylan houses that and one of his buildings and he takes care of all the. 00:43:26
Arrangements as far as the rental agreement. 00:43:34
I I. 00:43:42
There it is. 00:43:57
It's pretty big. 00:43:59
That's the new day on Friday I took the picture. 00:44:03
The little square. 00:44:06
Present. 00:44:08
Yeah. 00:44:10
There you go. 00:44:11
You wanna hit that light? 00:44:13
You guys can see that OK, I guess. 00:44:16
That's better. 00:44:18
Hi, this is Mark Up, chair of the Land and Water Conservation Board. 00:44:20
This is This video is part of an informative series for new Land Conservation Committee members. 00:44:26
Our refresher to committee members that continue. 00:44:32
To serve and beneficial for conservation staff. 00:44:35
I will provide background on. 00:44:39
Land and Water Conservation Board, or LW, CB. 00:44:42
Which connects local and state government. 00:44:45
On conservation and farmland preservation issues. 00:44:49
The history of. 00:44:53
Soil conservation in Wisconsin goes back to almost 100 years ago. 00:44:54
Many famous people have involved in those endeavors. 00:44:59
To protect. 00:45:03
And preserve our soil in Wisconsin and to implement. 00:45:04
Unique and innovative. 00:45:08
Conservation programming. 00:45:10
There's a great book on. 00:45:12
The history of soil conservation in Wisconsin called. 00:45:13
Appropriately. 00:45:17
Soil conservation in Wisconsin. 00:45:18
Birth to rebirth, and it's by. 00:45:20
Leonard Johnson, 1991 UW Press. 00:45:22
An excellent summary of. 00:45:26
Things that have gone on in Wisconsin related to soil conservation. 00:45:28
Those efforts go back to many Wisconsin conservation icons through the years, including. 00:45:33
Elder Leopold. 00:45:38
And others. 00:45:39
Looking at the duties and powers of the Land and Water Conservation Board as they currently exist. 00:45:42
You can find those in the state statutes in 92.04 who wish to look that up. 00:45:48
And it elucidates us on the duties and powers of the Board in that section of state law. 00:45:54
The LWCB is advisory. 00:46:02
To both Dad Cap. 00:46:05
Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. 00:46:06
And DNR, Department of Natural Resources. 00:46:09
We work closely with those agencies and others. 00:46:12
In addition, we have responsibilities directly related to the farmland preservation program. 00:46:17
And those have changed over the years. It's not as big a part of the LWC programming as it once was. 00:46:23
But we have other had other things that have also gone. 00:46:29
And similar paths such as the Priority Watershed program. 00:46:33
20 plus years ago. 00:46:36
So we continue to adapt. 00:46:38
As things change in state government and on the agricultural landscape. 00:46:40
One of the big things that the LWCB does now are review of. 00:46:47
Land and water resource management plans that each county is required. 00:46:51
To develop and submit to the board. 00:46:56
For review. 00:46:59
We have worked with the counties understand that these planning documents take a lot of time. 00:47:01
And so initially. 00:47:06
It was a five year document. 00:47:08
We have changed that now to a 10 year planning horizon. 00:47:10
With five year review. 00:47:14
So that each county does not have to. 00:47:16
Go back to that lengthy process every five years. We found that to be very successful. 00:47:19
As we continue to work with counties to streamline the process. 00:47:25
Recognizing that. 00:47:29
Staffing is is limited and to try to take advantage of the hours in the day as best can be. 00:47:30
Described. So we have five year review, 10 year plans now. 00:47:37
When we do this, we have the counties, usually the county conservationist. 00:47:42
We try to have someone from the. 00:47:47
County Land Conservation Committee joined the county Con. 00:47:50
Or the other person who's presenting that. 00:47:54
And appear before the board and do a short PowerPoint presentation. 00:47:56
We'd like to have that limited to 10 minutes or less. 00:48:00
So that we can engage in questions and answers and dialogue. 00:48:04
That will help the county as well as help us understand. 00:48:08
It's one of the most rewarding parts of the job. 00:48:12
As we review these and see the rich diversity of. 00:48:14
The counties in Wisconsin from those on the Lake Superior shoreline. 00:48:18
Down to. 00:48:22
The southeast on Lake MI and the Driftless Region. 00:48:23
In the Southwest. 00:48:27
Tremendous diversity in Wisconsin. Unique challenges all across the state. 00:48:28
And we learn a lot. 00:48:33
And we help share information. 00:48:34
So very rewarding part of being on the Land Water Conservation Board. 00:48:36
A very important function. 00:48:41
His review of the joint allocation plans, that's where the money comes from. 00:48:43
To assist. 00:48:48
With county staffing dollars. 00:48:49
We initially look at a preliminary joint allocation plan. 00:48:52
That dad kept and D and our staff develop. 00:48:57
And then the final plan hopefully is done in October. 00:48:59
As county boards are putting together. 00:49:03
Their budgets. 00:49:05
We are continuing to be an advocate for full funding of the staffing grant formula that's found in state law that has never been 00:49:07
fully funded. 00:49:12
Where the state will pay 100% of the first position and then the percentage of the second and third positioning. 00:49:17
County conservation departments. 00:49:23
Because of limited dollars, as I said, that has not ever been truly fulfilled. So we continue to be an advocate for full funding 00:49:27
of the staffing grant formula. 00:49:32
In addition, we are looking at new and. 00:49:37
Innovative ways that we can support. 00:49:40
Conservation efforts and funding in Wisconsin and are continuing to work on. 00:49:42
Ideas coming from other States and from. 00:49:48
Non governmental organizations. 00:49:52
That can help support county staff and county conservation efforts. 00:49:54
An important emerging issue. 00:49:59
Is groundwater quality and quantity. 00:50:02
Those have always been something the Land Water Conservation Board has. 00:50:05
Been aware of and delved into, but now more than ever we're looking at groundwater quality. 00:50:09
Many studies going on. 00:50:14
Around the state with contamination of groundwater. 00:50:17
And then also the groundwater quality, which is a significant. 00:50:20
Import in the Central Sands region and other places. 00:50:25
New one that we're just starting to get involved in relates to climate change resiliency. 00:50:30
We're hoping that. 00:50:37
County will, counties will put. 00:50:38
Some reference to climate change in their land and water plans. 00:50:42
Many already do. 00:50:46
Some do exceptional job of this and others are now recognizing that. 00:50:48
These unusual. 00:50:52
Rain events that we that we have seen in recent years are probably going to be around for the near future. 00:50:55
And we need to adapt to that. 00:51:01
Not only for transportation. 00:51:02
Transportation infrastructure. 00:51:05
But also on on the landscape, on the firemen and our agricultural production regions. 00:51:07
We're always looking for innovative ways that counties. 00:51:13
And other states are looking at their conservation efforts, and we'd like to be the place where people can talk about those issues 00:51:17
and present those. 00:51:22
Pridefully, yeah. 00:51:27
To a statewide board. 00:51:28
We do engage in forums and information gathering. 00:51:31
For instance, we did one. 00:51:36
On frack sand mining and that was an emerging issue in Wisconsin. 00:51:37
To help understand. 00:51:41
The soil and water conservation. 00:51:43
Issues related to frag sand mining. 00:51:46
We will continue to gather information as we're doing right now with. 00:51:50
Innovative funding. 00:51:54
Around the nation. 00:51:55
The composition of the board. 00:51:57
Is dictated by state law. 00:51:59
And that requires the secretaries of the Department of Administration. 00:52:02
Department of Natural Resources and Department of Agriculture. Trading, Consumer Protection. 00:52:07
To be a member of the board. 00:52:12
Or to have their designee be a member of the board. 00:52:14
We're very pleased and grateful that for the. 00:52:17
Attendance from each of those agencies and the leadership that they provide. 00:52:20
In addition, state law requires one resident of a city with a population of 50,000 or greater to be represented on the board. 00:52:24
Also a representative of a governmental unit involved in river protection. 00:52:35
That is my niche on the board currently. 00:52:40
A member of a charitable organization that deals with natural resources protection. 00:52:43
In addition, a farmer. 00:52:49
Any gubernatorial representative. 00:52:51
These people. 00:52:54
Represent. 00:52:55
Different terms of two years or four years. 00:52:57
And then very importantly. 00:53:00
The land conservation. 00:53:02
Committees are represented by three individuals who are elected. 00:53:04
At the annual meeting and even numbered years. So we do have the three LCC reps on the board. 00:53:08
That are very important to us. 00:53:15
Advisory Members. 00:53:18
Include Natural Resource Conservation Service and RCS. 00:53:19
Armed Service Agency FSA. 00:53:23
Also the University of Wisconsin College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. UW Cals. 00:53:26
UW Extension. 00:53:32
And Wisconsin land and water. 00:53:33
Very important partner. 00:53:36
For contact information, I would advise people to go to the Dat Cap website and specifically at the LWCB page. You can find a lot 00:53:38
of this information on there. 00:53:43
Also go to the land and water staff. Matt and his gang are highly skilled. 00:53:50
Very professional. 00:53:55
And can certainly. 00:53:56
Find out the answers you're looking for. 00:53:57
Lisa Trumbull at Dad Cap provides a great deal of support for the LWCB. 00:54:00
Can answer a lot of questions or. 00:54:05
Direct you in the right direction. 00:54:07
Or you can always contact me. 00:54:08
By sending an e-mail. 00:54:11
To Mark. 00:54:12
Dodge Cup at Wisconsin Gov. 00:54:13
That's MARKCUPP. 00:54:16
At Wisconsin. 00:54:20
GOP. So I hope you find this video informative in regard to what the Land and Water Conservation Board is all about. 00:54:22
We look forward to seeing some of you at our meetings or hearing from you. 00:54:29
So until then. 00:54:34
Take care, be safe. 00:54:35
Stay. 00:54:37
I'm Ryan Airsman, A nutrient management specialist with the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. 00:54:57
Welcome to a short talk on nutrient management. 00:55:04
A nutrient management plan outlines the application of manure. 00:55:07
And commercial fertilizer. 00:55:11
At the right time. 00:55:13
The right rate. 00:55:15
And in the right place. 00:55:16
In order to feed the crops needs while protecting water quality. 00:55:18
Nutrient management planning begins with taking soil samples in each field. 00:55:23
Mapping the farms fields. 00:55:28
And calculating how much manure the farm produces. 00:55:30
Next. 00:55:34
The planner lays out the crop rotation. 00:55:35
And related tillages. 00:55:37
Allocates the manure. 00:55:40
And then plans for any fertilizer. 00:55:41
That the crops might still need. 00:55:44
There are numerous variables. 00:55:46
In this process that have impacts on each other. 00:55:48
And off the farm. 00:55:52
SNAP Plus Wisconsin's nutrient management planning software accounts for all the complex variables in developing A nutrient 00:55:54
management plan. 00:55:59
Users can download the program from the website for free. 00:56:03
Snap Plus allows users to input all of their variables. 00:56:07
Snap Plus also provides feedback to the user so they can see where their plan needs adjustment. 00:56:11
The program's models help users understand. 00:56:16
What impacts the variables will have on the plan? 00:56:19
When farmers implement A nutrient management plan that has the application of the right nutrients. 00:56:22
At the right time. 00:56:27
In the right rate and in the right place, they are also protecting water quality because those nutrients stay where they belong in 00:56:28
the field. 00:56:32
Implementing A compliant nutrient management plan helps protect farm profits. 00:56:37
Fertilizer applied. 00:56:42
At too high a rate or with the wrong timing or method. 00:56:44
Could lead to negatively impacting water quality. 00:56:48
And the bottom line? 00:56:51
Implementing A nutrient management plan helps protect against soil loss. 00:56:53
This protects water quality as well. 00:56:58
As the soil itself is the most valuable resource. 00:57:01
On the farm. 00:57:04
For more information, visit snappluswhisk.edu. 00:57:06
Or the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. 00:57:11
Website at D80 CP. 00:57:16
Dot WI. 00:57:19
Gov and search for nutrient management. 00:57:21
Thank you very much for watching. 00:57:24
That'll leave you with. 00:57:32
Two more. 00:57:33
OK. Any discussion on the videos? No. 00:57:58
I had one question. 00:58:02
On the nutrient management planning. 00:58:04
The actual nutrient management plans I think is is a real good. 00:58:09
Form for determining what's needed. 00:58:14
The only question I've got is. 00:58:16
The soil test itself. 00:58:18
I recently attended. 00:58:21
That soil school that Ray Archuleta and Russell Hedrick held at Roaches. 00:58:23
And. 00:58:28
They gave us the background on how these tests were formulated. It was formulated back in 1954. 00:58:30
It's an acid test. 00:58:37
And and they said, really? 00:58:38
Hasn't there been any improvements over all these years and and and and formulating how these? 00:58:41
You know. 00:58:46
Actually. 00:58:47
Saying what's really in your soil? 00:58:49
Of course they're the. 00:58:51
Promoters of the Haney test, you know. 00:58:53
And I think the any test is a lot more complicated. It's a lot more harder to understand the what test. 00:58:55
Any tests? It's a different type of soil test. Haney, you said Amy, OK. 00:59:02
So I'm wondering. 00:59:07
If a farmer decides to. 00:59:09
Forgo the regular soil test and go to a Haney test. 00:59:11
How can you still comply with the new team management plan? Or can you? 00:59:15
The big thing with the nutrient management plan this it requires the soil test be done by an approved state lab. 00:59:22
If I'm correct on that, John, and the Haney test is not necessarily yet an approved lab. 00:59:31
Umm, it's more of a more in depth. 00:59:39
Test because they're looking at I mean they still test for nitrogen and phosphorus and potassium, but they also. 00:59:44
Are testing for a lot more. 00:59:52
In depth like. 00:59:54
More into soil health stuff that. 00:59:56
Approved state labs are not. 00:59:59
Working on yet? 01:00:02
That would be a question for. 01:00:03
From extension OK. 01:00:06
Yeah. 01:00:08
Yeah, because that was one thing that we always. 01:00:10
Issue with is you know, and and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the heat test by any means. 01:00:13
But it's being promoted more and more. 01:00:18
With people that are into the soil health. 01:00:21
Portion of it as compared to in the past. 01:00:25
But it's still not. 01:00:28
And approve you state lab. 01:00:29
Well, if a farmer I mean. I've done both and if you compare one to the other, the NPK levels sometimes are not even very close. 01:00:34
Yeah. 01:00:41
Yeah. So that that. 01:00:43
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't have an answer for you on that deal. 01:00:46
That would be an in-depth conversation with Will. 01:00:49
Did you compare those from the same sample? 01:00:53
Or did you take different areas? 01:00:57
Because you, you wouldn't, you have to take taking the soil sample isn't what you think. You just don't probe once and there's 01:00:59
your sample. They probe in multiple areas by a GPS point and soils vary quite a bit. So it's, it's kind of like a one shot in 01:01:04
window area and it may not even be. 01:01:09
What's right next to it So. 01:01:14
Sometimes. 01:01:17
You wonder. 01:01:18
How representative really is? 01:01:19
That's why typically soil test. 01:01:22
Are like 5 or 6 probe and then you mix it together and you send that in sample from six different points. And so if you're 01:01:25
comparing the two tests. 01:01:29
You'd want to take them from the same sample. 01:01:34
I have a question for my agronomist. I don't even know. I didn't take them to tell if it's a difference between the test. You'd 01:01:37
have to use the same sample to rule out. 01:01:42
A sample difference. That's a good point. 01:01:47
Yeah. So next time if you want, you know when you go out and take your tests, mix it up, send half that each way, right. 01:01:51
Otherwise, otherwise, you can't decide anything you can't determine. 01:01:56
OK. 01:02:06
Recap of the Wisconsin Land and Water Conference. 01:02:09
It's just your guys's opportunity. If you had anything that you saw at the conference that you think the rest of the group would. 01:02:13
Benefit from this is your opportunity to bring that up. 01:02:22
Do you have any? You went to a bunch? 01:02:26
Want to start? Yeah, I did. I went to a lot of the. 01:02:28
The floodplains and the water training ones. Hoping that I would be able to. 01:02:33
Get something that would help. 01:02:40
With this Rap River flood group. 01:02:42
Unfortunately, I didn't. 01:02:45
Pick up anything that would benefit me with that on them. 01:02:48
One thing that we did note here at the. 01:02:54
Annual budget. Annual business meeting. 01:02:57
The National Association of Conservation Districts is our. 01:03:00
National. 01:03:05
Land and water side. 01:03:08
They have an annual meeting every year and this year it's going to be in Wisconsin. 01:03:10
It is July 25th to 30th. It'll be in Milwaukee. 01:03:16
Once they get. 01:03:21
More things finalized. 01:03:23
Wisconsin Land Water has taken the lead on organizing the event, coming up with topics and speakers. 01:03:26
So there'll be. 01:03:34
Reaching out to different counties for presentations and stuff like that. 01:03:35
Registration is. 01:03:42
Around $450 per person for the entire event. 01:03:45
And so far, hotels are coming up at $199. 01:03:51
I did not. 01:03:56
Have any of this put in our budget? So as this event gets closer and anybody decides to go, I'll have to talk to camera and to see 01:03:57
if we can. 01:04:02
Get some funding for that. 01:04:07
But it's kind of exciting that it's coming to Wisconsin since. 01:04:11
Wisconsin is the only state. 01:04:15
That doesn't have districts, we run it by counties, so. 01:04:17
Do you think the. 01:04:23
Programs are also going to be on a higher level given it's a national. 01:04:25
I would say yeah. 01:04:28
Yeah. 01:04:29
Were you gonna put that on an agenda for us later or? Yeah, once I get more information, I'll I'll keep you guys up to date on it. 01:04:32
Thank you. 01:04:39
I thought the conference is well done as usual. 01:04:40
And it was good to listen to the other county folks talk about common issues. 01:04:42
Everybody had the same discussion point in most cases. 01:04:47
The presentations were. 01:04:51
Top notch. 01:04:53
But what he did not see is a workshop. 01:04:55
That would take a challenge. 01:04:58
And break it down to a format. 01:05:01
To get to a conclusion. 01:05:03
So each of the presentations talked about a practice. 01:05:04
Didn't tie the practice together. 01:05:08
To solve the. 01:05:10
Find a solution for the water flooding. 01:05:12
In Rock River. 01:05:15
So you have all these different pieces that you have to put together to solve the issue. 01:05:17
The other big factor was the wake surfing boats. 01:05:23
So wig surfing boats are a new. 01:05:27
Water sport. 01:05:30
They blow water into the lake 30 feet deep by 50 feet wide. 01:05:32
So if you go down the lake about a mile. 01:05:36
You've unearthed about 6 acres of bottom. 01:05:38
So you've taken the top layer of the sediment. 01:05:41
That's very rich in nutrients. You've mixed that in like an egg beater into the lake. 01:05:44
You've also disturbed the bomb of the lake in any. 01:05:50
Habitat down there is gone. 01:05:53
And this is unregulated. 01:05:55
The gentleman from the Ward department was very frank about it. 01:05:57
And it's in the State House now for legislation. 01:06:01
And it's been kicked around for. 01:06:05
I think he said three years. 01:06:07
The boat industry is against. 01:06:09
Significant regulation, of course. 01:06:13
You have on the other side. 01:06:16
Last Wilderness Alliance. 01:06:18
Council Lakes, Wisconsin Green Fire. 01:06:24
All offering a more. 01:06:27
Uniform approach. 01:06:29
For all the lakes across Wisconsin. 01:06:31
So this is a factor that will affect the water quality. 01:06:33
And any lake you have wake boats. 01:06:37
I know Fox Lake is looking at ordinance. 01:06:39
And it was discussed that they. 01:06:42
That the local or local municipality should not put an ordinance in until the state. 01:06:44
Determines what their. 01:06:50
Statutes will look like but. 01:06:51
That's open for discussion. 01:06:53
There's an issue that has to be resolved. 01:06:55
Fairly quickly to resolve water quality. 01:06:57
Anyone else? 01:07:07
Well, I attended one of the breakout sessions by our. 01:07:11
Main speaker the one time that. 01:07:16
Nick Jalinski. 01:07:17
But the breakout session was different than his main topic, and he talked more or less about erosion. 01:07:20
You know, uh. 01:07:24
And he brought his. 01:07:25
Subject in their thing was about holiday. 01:07:29
Measured it by using. 01:07:32
Radioisotopes with beryllium, you know, so that was kind of beyond most of us, but. 01:07:33
But the point is that, he said most of the ocean has occurred within the last 150 years of the last. 01:07:39
20,000 years mostly Rosen has occurred since we started cultivating the land. 01:07:45
And then a lot of the hillsides. And I noticed that by farming. 01:07:50
Have no topsoil left. 01:07:53
In fact, now it's the subsoil that's eroding on top of the topsoil that's been down. 01:07:55
Lower parts of the fields so. 01:08:00
He's a very, very interesting speaker and he brings it about. 01:08:04
That people can realize how much damage is being done. 01:08:09
Without even really physically being able to see it. 01:08:14
Cool. 01:08:19
OK, Ken. Yeah, the one I went to is really interesting and talked about the plastic and recycling. 01:08:23
They say we're. 01:08:29
Eating. 01:08:31
The current of our. 01:08:33
Credit card a plastic a week. 01:08:35
Every single person. 01:08:37
So they were promoting or their big thing was getting into recycling and using not plastic stuff and trying to get away from 01:08:39
plastic and. 01:08:43
Coming up with different things so. 01:08:47
I didn't know it was quite that. 01:08:49
That that bad? The plastic? Yeah. I thought you'd like a year credit card. A year. Oh, how? 01:08:52
A week, they said, which was really like, wow, that's a lot. 01:08:57
Our food, our water, everything so. 01:09:02
Yeah. Thank you. 01:09:07
I went to a climate change thing, which was really interesting because. 01:09:11
You always think of it getting warmer, but in Wisconsin and summers that it's not the summers that are getting dramatically 01:09:15
warmer. 01:09:19
It's the winters are getting less cold. 01:09:22
And like. 01:09:25
Again, I'm just throwing out these numbers. They're not real, but I didn't write them down. But it's like. 01:09:27
They had some, they looked at the coldest point of the state. So it's never us. But like they were, you know, we were regularly 01:09:32
getting. 01:09:36
-40. 01:09:40
You know, overtime. 01:09:41
In the last 5000 years. 01:09:43
And then when you look at the map, the line just kind of the bottom keeps getting higher. 01:09:46
And so now we've only hit like -40 like once in the last 10 years. 01:09:51
It was. 01:09:57
Just amazing. 01:09:59
And it was also amazing to see the difference in that. You know, it affects obviously agriculture, but it also affects the 01:10:01
animals. You don't even think about that. 01:10:06
And it affects all the native plants. 01:10:11
Which aren't as adaptable as animals, so they take time to like. 01:10:14
They just don't adjust as fast and they can't just. 01:10:18
Travel right the dependent on the seeds and blowing and I just thought it was. 01:10:21
Really super interesting. 01:10:26
And the other one I wanted to briefly mention is. 01:10:27
The county administrator formatted government. I think the first half was pretty boring because it went through all the different. 01:10:30
You know County Executive, County administrator. 01:10:36
But I hung in there and they got more into the county administrator format, which obviously is our format. 01:10:39
And you know this is. 01:10:46
Over and over, we keep misunderstanding supervisors our role. 01:10:48
The county chief administrative offers officer is responsible for the day-to-day operations of the county like. 01:10:52
How are the managers doing? Who's responsible? Did they do a good job? 01:11:00
All of that responsibility is on them. 01:11:06
And he said that. 01:11:08
Supervisor, which came up like 100 years ago. 01:11:09
Is the worst possible word to use for people in a county administrator so. 01:11:13
You have regularly all of us have heard people go well I'm a county board supervisor so my job is to supervise and that is 01:11:18
absolutely incorrect. 01:11:21
It is not true at all. 01:11:25
And so they're just taking this word literally. 01:11:28
And it's not. It is the administrators job to supervise. 01:11:31
Is the county board's responsibility to enact policies? 01:11:36
And to the extent that we are going to monitor. 01:11:40
Behavior. We monitor the county administrator. 01:11:44
And say, you know, what kind of a job are you doing? 01:11:48
So when we had the big cluster with the highway department and everybody wants to get into what happened, who's responsible, what 01:11:50
are we going to do about this? 01:11:53
You know, we're gonna fix it and it's like, Nope, wasn't our job. 01:11:57
At all it was the administrators job. 01:12:01
And he fixed it. 01:12:04
And. 01:12:06
I'm not saying we shouldn't be informed, but we there's certain groups that just seem to think that it's our job to fix. 01:12:07
Every management issue. 01:12:13
And how many axles on a truck, whatever. And it's just not, it's just not the role of our board. 01:12:16
And when we were talking about childcare? 01:12:22
Our job is to say. 01:12:25
You know. 01:12:27
Like the like our chairs lead, you know what what plans are going to do with the county and. 01:12:28
You know, moving us forward with extension and meeting services and what's that big picture look like and what's the big picture 01:12:33
look like for, you know, dealing with childcare? 01:12:37
Those are the issues we should be having. 01:12:42
And uh. 01:12:45
I'm hoping we. 01:12:46
To try to direct. 01:12:48
I know, I know, everybody's just sick of me saying we're not supposed to micromanage, but we keep going to these conferences and 01:12:50
they say you're not supposed to micromanage. You're not even supposed to manage. 01:12:54
You know we're not. That's not our job. 01:12:59
So I wish, I wish somehow we could inform people of that, that. 01:13:02
Supervisor does not mean super. 01:13:06
Good point. Should be called strategic planners. 01:13:11
That'd be that'd be the statute is real clear. Your first thing that we every seminary you go at WCA, you're not a supervisor. We 01:13:14
should tape that and play that for the whole board. No, no, no, she she's right. The first thing ever Andy Phillips ever says you 01:13:20
have no authority. You're a planner. That's right. It was it was a she had been she had been up. Yeah, was lobbyist and she was a 01:13:26
high level county board. 01:13:32
Wisconsin Counties Association. She just knew her stuff. Like, wow. 01:13:39
I think it's extremely beneficial to go and thank you, John for putting this in the budget I it seems like. 01:13:46
Use. I've done three Times Now and it's now I'm just starting to get it. It took a long time to 1st meet. It's like I don't know 01:13:52
anything. 01:13:55
And now I'm starting now the terms are starting to make more. 01:13:59
I'm it's making more meaning to me now. It just took a while. I mean, it's such a complex. 01:14:02
Industry or I'm not sure what you call it, it's very complex. There's a lot to it. I did get a lot out of, I like the seminar 01:14:10
Understanding Wisconsin Law and Surface Water. I did get a lot out of that and. 01:14:15
And definitions reasonable use rule. 01:14:21
Those were very helpful to me. I mean, I am not a lawyer, but I mean, it was helpful to just have someone sit down and explain 01:14:26
that to the group. And I thought there was good participation in the seminars also. 01:14:32
The other one I went to because of my interest in lobbying, the conservation prospects, priorities and advocacy, the lobbyists 01:14:38
that Land and Water has in Matt. 01:14:42
Is really is really good. Also to have breakfast with Matt. He came to our we had breakfast with him. 01:14:47
I thought that was incredibly helpful. 01:14:54
And I am lobbying for those things. 01:14:57
Are those you don't know? I lobby for our county and also for WCA. 01:14:59
And so that was very helpful to get the background more of that and I know you're helping getting us a list for when. 01:15:04
Executive in two weeks we're gonna do lobbying again. So we're trying to get, when I say lobbying in particular, I'm talking 01:15:11
about. 01:15:14
Trying to get more money for the wages of our staff in particular. 01:15:18
The state law says they're supposed to do. 01:15:23
You know, three different percentages for our staff. 01:15:26
And they give us approximately half of what we're supposed to get and and then the county board. 01:15:29
Essentially a taxes, a levy to cover what the state is supposed to cover. That's what's really happening. 01:15:35
So, but, but anyway, that was very helpful to me. So I thought it was a good investment. 01:15:41
Umm. I'll be honest with you when I think of the whole thing, The thing that impressed me the most. 01:15:48
Was the banquet of some of those. 01:15:52
People. Employees. 01:15:55
And they told all the things they did. 01:15:57
I think. 01:16:01
Amazing people that you don't need and I'm glad that we recognize them or that the. 01:16:02
With some of those people, that's the only thing they're ever going to get. To be real honest with you, you know they've worked 01:16:08
their butts off. 01:16:11
In some of those counties and I, I was amazed. 01:16:14
It inspired me. 01:16:18
To be a better person, I think. 01:16:19
To see how hard some of those people and they were doing it just because. 01:16:22
They had a heart for trying to make a difference. That's the only reason they did it. They because they were really, they were 01:16:26
honestly just good people really working hard. 01:16:30
And it was really meaningful to me to hear their story, their testimony. 01:16:35
And I'm glad. I think that if you ever give feedback on it, I think it's critically important. And I wasn't here when some of our 01:16:39
employees got some recognition. You told me that that had happened for Dodge County. 01:16:45
In the past. 01:16:51
But I my hats off to them for doing that because I don't think those people are ever thin. It's a thankless job. They don't get 01:16:53
thanked for doing all that work they do. 01:16:57
And neither do you, I know. So thank you and thank you guys that are here. 01:17:02
So I thought that's what really inspired me. 01:17:06
Yeah, so. 01:17:09
All right, I did have one person come up to me. 01:17:10
And he is a committee member from a different county up north. 01:17:14
And he asked me how do I get from Dodge County? How do I get? 01:17:18
Most you guys to attend that conference and. 01:17:23
It's not me sitting here begging you guys to go. It's. 01:17:28
Some of you that have gone and you encourage the others to go. 01:17:31
You know, you feel you get something out of it and that's why you continue to go. 01:17:35
If you if you felt it was a waste of your time, you would you wouldn't go. 01:17:39
So. 01:17:43
I thought it was one of the best ever. It really did. I thought they just keep getting better. They really build on it. Just 01:17:43
tremendous information. 01:17:47
Just. 01:17:51
You know, once in a while there's a dud and I, I never hit anything that was like that. Everything I attended was just super 01:17:52
informative in it. 01:17:56
We had a main speaker on soil science and I thought, Oh my God, I. 01:18:00
Was shocked. You know, it's like a mini universe, you know, just a truly a minute. I know you all know this, but I was like. 01:18:05
No idea how complex it was and he was so. 01:18:12
Excited, you know, and. 01:18:16
It was just you went to that, right? That was he was, he was amazing. 01:18:18
It was really good. 01:18:22
The other one that was really interesting and I've heard him speak before, last name was Gingras. He talked about the generations. 01:18:23
Yeah, Baby Boomers, Gen. Z, Gen. X. That the difference in. 01:18:31
What they perceive to be important, you know, and I thought that. 01:18:36
That was really interesting. 01:18:41
All right, so next week, next year it'll be at a different location right back in The Dells, back in The Dells and actually The 01:18:46
Dells next year and. 01:18:50
So closer. 01:18:54
I I mean, it's closer, you should go. It's really good. 01:18:56
All right, we'll put it on our calendars and. 01:19:00
December or I know you. I know that won't. 01:19:04
Be you right when we actually sign up for that, said January. 01:19:07
It's usually in January as a sign up time. 01:19:11
But you I'll make sure you get the information. 01:19:14
When it, when it's coming. So OK. 01:19:16
All right, Tree sales. 01:19:20
OK, we're going to have our tree sale pick up in April. 01:19:22
It'll be the week of the 21st, we'll be working on them and Thursday the 24th will be the day that they'll come and pick them up. 01:19:26
We're only having a one day pick up this year instead of 2. 01:19:32
Because we're not getting the trees until Tuesday instead of Monday, so. 01:19:37
And how many total? 01:19:42
Just over 22,000. 01:19:44
Do you think that's going to affect your sales if people can't do that one day? 01:19:46
No, I won't affect the sales at all. 01:19:51
I think. 01:19:55
Columbia County's been doing one day for forever. 01:19:57
Fact we got our tree tubes coming sometime today. We ordered 4500 of them. 01:20:01
They're supposed to be coming in somewhere between 12:30 and 4:30, so. 01:20:06
That was the last track you saw. 01:20:10
OK, update on the Rock River Flood Group. 01:20:14
OK. 01:20:18
Last month there was a question on the farms as to. 01:20:20
Whether of the main two people that are starting this program that have been involved in this? 01:20:26
What their farms look like as far as are they in the floodplains or not? 01:20:32
So there's four maps with you, one of each farm. 01:20:37
The first map just kind of shows the outline of the farm. 01:20:41
The second map will show you what portion of the farm is in the floodplain or considered a wetland. 01:20:45
And I've got that for for both places. So it's just a point of reference for you, so. 01:20:53
Not all of their land is wetland or in floodplains, but. 01:20:59
A majority of it is. 01:21:05
Can I ask when? 01:21:08
When or how long has it been identified as a wetland or in a floodplain? 01:21:10
The floodplain maps were updated. 01:21:17
5 to 8 years ago. 01:21:22
So it might have encroached a little more than what it was originally. 01:21:25
But that's the Rock River. I mean, it's, it's always been a floodplain. 01:21:30
Soil the the wetland soils that that's always been wetlands. I mean that that hasn't changed. It's based off a hydrology and soil 01:21:35
type. 01:21:40
The floodplain itself might have. 01:21:45
Moved a little bit when they update FEMA maps. Yeah, and. 01:21:48
Frankly, the flooding that they've explained to me is is. 01:21:52
When it's these extreme events exceeds far beyond the floodplain. I mean, that's that's part of the issue. I can tell you right 01:21:56
now the Rock River is out of its banks right now. I mean with with what we've gotten from rain and snow the last few weeks, it's 01:22:01
out of its banks right now so. 01:22:06
I did get an open records request from Lake Ms. District on the original request was on all. 01:22:13
Interaction emails and paperwork going back and forth all the way back to 2022. 01:22:23
With whom or with what? 01:22:30
With this farmer group, with this floodplain group. 01:22:31
So after talking to Andrew, I actually. 01:22:35
Jumped the wagon and I started making some copies and going way back when and then I talked to Andrew about the agenda and he said 01:22:39
no, that's not what they really want, but that's what their e-mail stated. 01:22:45
So I called her and I found out what she actually wanted. So I just she wanted to know what. 01:22:51
My departments involvement with them was. 01:22:58
And I told strictly advisory we're not. 01:23:03
Supporting them in any way as far as coming after the lakes or anything. 01:23:07
I've offered to do. 01:23:13
Conservation plans, if they come up with stuff, projects. 01:23:15
Other than the. 01:23:20
USGS station that you guys have. 01:23:22
Wanted me to put in the budget. That's the only thing that we're really supporting them with. So that's a five year plan. 01:23:27
Yeah. 01:23:33
Yeah. So that's. 01:23:34
We got our next their next meeting is going to be April 9th. 01:23:38
It's going to be that's it's set up for a four hour meeting. They've got two people from UW Madison, two students that are going 01:23:44
to be. 01:23:48
Focusing some of their attention on here as far as figuring out hydraulics, figuring out. 01:23:52
Flood retention areas and things like that. So, so that's. 01:23:58
I think that's going to be a big help for them. 01:24:04
I want to get a couple of different speakers in at that April 9th meeting, one that'll talk about. 01:24:08
If you create. 01:24:15
Recreate a wetland. 01:24:17
What kind of water retention? 01:24:19
Flood retention potential. 01:24:21
Do they have? 01:24:24
And I know it's going to be based on the size of the wetland and the drainage area and all that, but. 01:24:25
Somebody other than me. 01:24:31
Coming in, talking to them that. 01:24:33
Does it for a living. 01:24:35
I also want to get somebody to come in and talk about the difference between. 01:24:37
A dam and a. 01:24:42
Flood retention stand. 01:24:45
OK, because like since it be. 01:24:47
Damn, Horkin Dam and the Horkin Marsh Dam are not flood retention dams. 01:24:50
So. 01:24:58
OK. Any other questions? 01:25:02
Thank you, John. 01:25:05
All right, update on the farm. Any any word on the on the? 01:25:07
Not much much new on that. Will and I are going to meet Thursday this week. 01:25:13
And we're going to talk some more and what we can. 01:25:18
Come up with out there, but is it there something with the lease coming up? Yeah, I did get copy of the lease. 01:25:21
It was. 01:25:28
It was the blank lease that goes out to the public, so it's not a signed one with the current operator. 01:25:30
I've gone through and looked at it. There are. 01:25:36
Things in there as far as conservation compliances and stuff like that. There's even a portion in there about cover crops. 01:25:39
Encouraging. 01:25:49
The operator to plant cover crops. 01:25:51
And I thought it kind of interesting because it said if. 01:25:54
If the operator is unable to plan to cover crop. 01:25:58
Then they need to notify. 01:26:02
I'm assuming the higher department or the county or somebody. 01:26:05
So I don't know if that actually happens or not, but it was interesting to see that in there. But there are several things in 01:26:08
there that talks about conservation compliance, which. 01:26:13
It was good to see. 01:26:19
OK, keep us updated. When would that be signed, John, or how does that work? 01:26:25
I don't know. I just asked. I just asked. Imagine it's, I think it's probably gonna come up forbid probably sometimes this is the 01:26:30
last term of the contract. Yeah, I'm thinking it'll go out probably July, maybe August. 01:26:36
All right, so the part I question is. 01:26:44
If there are. 01:26:47
Conservation measures in the contract. 01:26:49
Why doesn't this department handle it rather than a highway department? Because what knowledge do they have of conservation 01:26:52
practices, you know? 01:26:56
The land was originally purchased. 01:27:02
With grants. 01:27:06
To the highway, to the highway because of the airport. So that's why it's always stayed with the highway. 01:27:08
Does it? 01:27:15
Then and that's that's people above me that'll make that decision if it ever changes. 01:27:16
But Cameron signs a lease, right? 01:27:20
Is it Cameron? 01:27:22
Or is it? 01:27:23
Brian. 01:27:24
I don't know who signs it. 01:27:26
Yeah. I don't know who it doesn't sign. It's keep us in there. Yeah, I don't. I don't know though that. 01:27:29
I would think this would be an interesting question for Cameron, right? I mean, the lease is with the county, right? I think it 01:27:36
would be Cameron maybe, I guess. 01:27:41
Obviously issues with conservation would be with this committee. I mean, like this is not. 01:27:47
Not rocket science, right? Clearly, when you say why wouldn't it be, the answer is of course it is, right? 01:27:55
We just. 01:28:00
Should clarify with Cameron. 01:28:01
I mean, you've got a little bit of a lever here and you want to do this research project and it's saying you got to do some 01:28:04
practices. 01:28:08
You're already talking about a very simplified version. 01:28:11
Couple acres or whatever on each side. 01:28:15
John's on the. I've talked to Brian so I can do a little. 01:28:47
And I'll talk with Brian a little bit about it too, because we're gonna be together next week for a couple days. I think that's 01:28:51
excellent. In our travelings, there'll be a lot of visiting time. Good. I think so. I can. That's great. A lot of face to face. 01:28:56
Yes, I'll, I'll talk to him and see what I can get figured out. 01:29:00
It's already a really simplified research study. So another question just to clarify, from my point of view, I mean. 01:29:06
So the income from the rental that goes in the general fund, it doesn't go into highway. 01:29:12
Project does it. I don't know. I'm pretty sure it goes general fund. I'm pretty sure it does too. We really never, as long as I've 01:29:17
been on that committee, we've never really talked about that lease at all. Yeah. 01:29:22
You should double check. 01:29:28
Least was formulated and I thought that's the way it was in there and it was, yeah. 01:29:31
Good job, All right, Good memory. 01:29:36
I think it'd be great. 01:29:41
For our department and for our county and for all concerned. 01:29:42
Well, especially because the research is right here in Dodge County, it's like really gonna apply to local agriculture. And I 01:29:45
don't know if we need to do anything the extension and let me know too with. 01:29:50
Wills work plan or whatever, you know what I mean. I want to make sure that's. 01:29:56
Like it all lines up, you know? 01:30:00
Sounds good, all right. 01:30:03
Staff Introductions. 01:30:05
OK. I have two of them here today if you guys want to come up and take the hot seat by the mic and. 01:30:07
We most of you know who the staff are, but we have a couple new guys on here that you may have not met everybody so. 01:30:15
Go ahead and start out. 01:30:23
I've talked to you guys before. I'm John Kurt. 01:30:25
Just started my 28th year here. 01:30:30
I work for farmer. 01:30:32
Participants on pharma preservation. 01:30:34
The last meeting I was here, we discussed the transit survey also do that. 01:30:38
I don't know what else. 01:30:44
Basically. 01:30:47
All I really do. 01:30:48
Most of you know me, but I'm Jared Winter. I'm. 01:30:51
One of the technicians dealing with some of the engineering side of that, what we do. 01:30:55
Putting together different conservation practices, somebody comes in having erosion. 01:31:02
I'm one of the two guys upstairs who kind of work at. 01:31:08
Helping those coming up with a plan, a design and you know, getting some sort of conservation plan in. 01:31:11
Umm, I also do a lot with rotational grazing in the county. 01:31:19
But those are sort of the. 01:31:24
Fit in the technician side of things as well. 01:31:26
But that's kind of. 01:31:29
Big part of what I do. 01:31:32
Let's do a little bit of work with the farmers group. 01:31:34
In Dodge County to whatever, they ask something for me. 01:31:37
He's a technical guy in the department. 01:31:42
Any computer problems and stuff? Usually we go to him before we go to it. 01:31:45
You better what, 7-8 years? 01:31:51
Time flies, yeah. So it's. 01:31:56
February will be like 8 1/2 years. 01:31:59
It's easy, young guy. 01:32:03
Yeah, that's good. Well, thank you for all the work you do. We appreciate you and appreciate all the work you're doing and. 01:32:06
It's, it's very important work. Obviously we think it is. And is there anything we can do? Let us know or let John know or. 01:32:12
The new bosses, whoever those aren't. 01:32:19
We just appreciate the support to kind of just go and do what we got to do. 01:32:22
John, are you the one who normally goes out? 01:32:27
Like to get people? 01:32:29
Interested or involved in conservation plans? Or is it more this one? 01:32:31
A lot of times, I mean, it's. 01:32:35
Through word of mouth or through. 01:32:38
Advertising stuff, we put out Flyers or whatever. 01:32:41
Newsletters. 01:32:44
Or when tax accounts. 01:32:46
Meet with their. 01:32:48
Farmers and say your might be eligible for this. 01:32:50
Then I get calls OK or you know when. 01:32:53
Myself or the other technician Dave upstairs when we go and talk to somebody if it's in a Township that is zoned. 01:32:57
For farmland preservation and they have enough acres and stuff like that, I'll sometimes put a little bit of a plug in for 01:33:05
farmland preservation and. 01:33:08
You know, give them some information and then. 01:33:13
Let him know they my parents even call from somebody. 01:33:16
Because I don't, I don't know if I don't think you were here, but in our 10 year plan, one of our big goals and I don't remember 01:33:19
if it was 10% or 20%, Andrew. 01:33:23
The we have a percentage increase improve significantly there's just so. 01:33:28
It's not a big number of people involved considering the size of our county. 01:33:35
It's the nutrient management requirement is the biggest hang up, yeah. 01:33:40
That's a guy called me this morning. 01:33:45
As soon as I mentioned that, he's like, oh, you know. 01:33:48
And then but they think that they're not going to save any money by doing it or it's not worth the time, you know what I mean? 01:33:50
Like you're just going to spread extra stuff. And I think it's initially the cost. 01:33:57
Have it done. So the samples, a lot of there's a lot of firms that haven't had updated soil samples in a long time. 01:34:03
Something that we've run across that have never had samples, yeah. 01:34:09
That's really kind of sad. 01:34:12
So that's that. 01:34:15
Driving with blenders on. 01:34:17
What's that and like driving with a blindfold on Ohio? 01:34:18
So. 01:34:23
That's a tough education is the big thing is to. 01:34:24
The convince a farmer that. 01:34:26
The new management plan or even soil testing. 01:34:30
Is going to save them money in the long run. Yep. 01:34:33
When it firstly kind of came out, we had a lot of opposition from agronomists. 01:34:36
Fertilizer dealers. 01:34:40
I mean, I, I know for a fact I talked to the guy that said his fertilizer, guy said. 01:34:43
Don't do it. It's a waste. It's. 01:34:47
Oh my God, because, well, they wouldn't sell fertilizer, right? Right. They don't care about saving. 01:34:49
If they change their position or they're still kind of not actually, that landowner did sign up. 01:34:55
After the fact, it took about two years, three years, and then he finally did. Does he really follow the plan? 01:35:01
No, that's with T, No, most guys. 01:35:07
All right. They, I don't know. 01:35:10
I would say. 01:35:11
I don't know, maybe 25%, fifty, 50% of guys kind of look at it but still go with their agronomists. 01:35:13
Recommendations. 01:35:20
There's no way to prove it right. 01:35:21
You know, a lot of them look at it just as a requirement they need. 01:35:24
To get the credit. 01:35:28
It's too bad. 01:35:29
There's a maximum amount of credit. I've learned that one of the seminars right there was 3 categories you can fall into. OK $10 01:35:31
credit with under. 01:35:36
Existing exclusive AG zoning only. 01:35:41
$10 credit for. 01:35:45
Zoned townships. 01:35:46
Zone A1 and then a 1250 credit for. 01:35:49
Zone Townships. 01:35:52
A1 and in an exclusive egg. 01:35:54
Enterprise area. 01:35:58
So and I've worked with Dale before and it's exclusive AG enterprise areas are kind of. 01:36:00
It's a lot of paperwork involved for that. 01:36:06
Never would have got done without John. 01:36:09
That's another issue. 01:36:12
Well, thank you. That's helpful. Thank you. 01:36:15
All right. All right. Thank you, Jordan. John, thank you. 01:36:20
OK, committee member reports. 01:36:29
Yes, I'm up. 01:36:32
We had two meetings this month. We had. 01:36:33
I don't know if he'd call it an emergency meeting. We had an. 01:36:37
I guess an emergency meeting on Saturday, March 8th. 01:36:39
At least for library the. 01:36:43
With the LSA and the Hughesford Village President about the the. 01:36:45
He's for dam orders related to the timing of the annual drawdown that affects Lake Santa City water levels. 01:36:50
Umm, So what was discussed was changing the. 01:36:57
2009 dam order known as the Hussesford Dam Inspection Operation and Maintenance Plan the IOM. 01:37:01
From the village. And the reason why we did it is because in April, the village board. 01:37:11
Is going to change significantly. 01:37:16
And the mayor is going to be gone. She's not running. And those are the people that know a lot about it so. 01:37:18
The village recommended that if we're going to make it. 01:37:25
Because of all the complaints they've received from the lake. 01:37:27
People in the Lake District as a. 01:37:31
Not necessarily people from the village. 01:37:33
But they received a lot in a negative feedback. 01:37:35
Umm, they they recommended that if we wanted the LSID. 01:37:38
To make a change, now would be the time to make a recommendation for that change so the village could change their order within 01:37:44
the 1952. 01:37:48
DNR plan. 01:37:53
That's the best way to say it. 01:37:56
It was decided at that meeting that the LSA would recommend that they change the dam orders and then we had a. 01:37:58
We prepared our wording. 01:38:06
And then? 01:38:08
The following that was Saturdays, then on Tuesday we had our meeting. 01:38:10
And then we passed a motion to make a statement. 01:38:14
Regarding regarding the change that drawback and what it does is it changes a drawback from December. 01:38:20
To February back to February 15th, I think it John, correct me if I'm wrong, I think maybe. 01:38:27
Two years has been going on that way, not long, a couple couple years. 01:38:32
And the complaint? 01:38:36
The complaints are. 01:38:38
That the people that live on the lake. 01:38:40
Say they have more. 01:38:43
Erosion in the ice. 01:38:45
Is different the way it moves? 01:38:47
When the water is let down earlier that that's what they're saying reset is that yeah, that's what they're saying. But there are 01:38:49
erosion control is the issue they're saying that their ice he's because the water level lower it's getting. 01:38:57
More under the RIP rap protection and then it's pushing things up. 01:39:05
More soil in that back doing more damage than. 01:39:11
Then if the water level had been higher. 01:39:15
However, at the conference I talked to several other county cons that. 01:39:18
Work more with lake management than that. 01:39:24
And they're saying that that really doesn't have an effect. 01:39:29
That this year was just one of those perfect storms. 01:39:34
Where we had. 01:39:39
No snow cover. 01:39:41
You had freezing and thawing, so you had I sees that you haven't seen in the past. 01:39:43
So it's not necessarily based on the level of the water in the lake according to these. 01:39:49
Other people. 01:39:56
The other major thing we saw in Beaver Dam Lake was the July water, the flooding. 01:39:58
So the water got behind the RIP rap and softened that soil up. 01:40:02
And move the stone. So once you step, move the stones away from the shoreline. 01:40:06
You have a soft, you're not armored anymore. It's not RIP rap. Yeah, it's a bunch of stones. 01:40:10
So then when you hear the freeze thaw, you had weak points that it went after. 01:40:15
The other thing in Beaver Dam and I think about. 01:40:19
20/15/16. 01:40:23
The people in the city were complaining about the water being too high. 01:40:25
And asked for the lake to be lowered. 01:40:29
Yeah, yeah. 01:40:31
I know one thing that. 01:40:33
We're having conversations in the office about is because we do cost share on. 01:40:35
Redoing, restoring the RIP rap. 01:40:41
I mean, this year is a perfect storm. 01:40:46
With climate change, we could have more frequent perfect and. 01:40:48
How often do we go back and we offer cost sharing? 01:40:54
You know I'm not if I cost her to restore their their shoreline protection. 01:40:57
I don't want to put money out there again next year or the year after again, you know? 01:41:05
So. 01:41:10
So we're having those conversations. 01:41:11
I have a question, is in February kind of late for? 01:41:14
Creating storage. 01:41:17
Is it? You know what I'm saying? 01:41:20
Thank you. Especially with the way the weather is warming, that's that's great storage. Then you're gonna have this huge problem. 01:41:22
Well, the other argument is with the. 01:41:26
The wildlife. 01:41:32
You know. 01:41:34
When when salamanders, frogs, muskrats, when they build their winter. 01:41:36
Homes Burrow into the soils in that. 01:41:41
It's based on the elevations in October, November, right? 01:41:44
And then you draw down that stuff after that. 01:41:49
You potentially freeze them out and kill them. 01:41:53
Doll if you're if. 01:41:56
You know, the hurricane marsh, they're all about the wildlife, so. 01:41:58
If you're going to draw it down, you draw it down early so that you're not killing off the wildlife. 01:42:02
At the same time, you need the water levels high for the duck hunters in the fall. 01:42:07
So. 01:42:12
All of those things were discussed at the meeting, as well as implications of down. 01:42:13
But it was decided that the interests of. 01:42:18
That group? 01:42:21
Yeah, that was their interest, yes. So that's. 01:42:22
All is true, but. 01:42:26
So. 01:42:28
Are you recommending making the change? Because doesn't it? 01:42:29
Isn't it concerning that you're making a change based on homeowners? Out of the past 22 years, only two years were done the other 01:42:32
way. 01:42:36
So in the two years. 01:42:40
The last two years is. 01:42:44
Like John said, they. 01:42:45
Claim to have a problem. 01:42:47
I don't know if there's a scientific, it's really very subjective. That's what I'm saying. It's a, it's a perceived problem and 01:42:49
and you're going to do a government solution to a problem that they don't even know for sure. And what he's saying is it's not 01:42:54
actually the cause. 01:42:58
His opinion? 01:43:04
Yeah, that's the problem. It's an opinion. Yeah, it's a very hot political issue. 01:43:06
You leave the water high over the winter time. The other impact is a shoreline. 01:43:11
The water is high enough, it's going to crowd out the vegetation. 01:43:15
And kill that off. 01:43:18
So the preferences have a down. 01:43:20
Allow the. 01:43:22
Sediment to air out. 01:43:24
Allow the vegetation recover over the winter time. 01:43:26
Or be progressively problem. 01:43:30
They will lose a few feet this year, the next year, the next year. 01:43:32
Because you don't have vegetation anymore. 01:43:35
You're saying it's better to leave it to not take it down in February, leave it down in October? 01:43:37
Don't let it at a higher level throughout the whole winter. 01:43:43
That came from both our consultant and DNR looking at our. 01:43:49
That be grandly. 01:43:52
But they would listen to people. You got some experts, but but but this is within the 52 damn order. So it's a this is a explain. 01:43:54
This is like a range. There's there isn't. 01:43:59
It's not like a big change. It's a range. It's a range is what we're talking about. Just in 52. They didn't have a lot of 01:44:06
understanding of the dynamics back then and it was different, different climate conditions. Agree. 01:44:12
The other, the other thing that we passed is we approved $30,000. 01:44:18
Ward to the. 01:44:24
Umm, I guess they're hay and associates for the cost feasibility study of the inlet dredging that's up near Oxbow Marine. 01:44:28
Where the rock rubber goes there and the has been moving up and up and so. 01:44:35
Before in August, we we wanted to get a proposal. 01:44:40
Kate, what the dredging estimate of the dredging costs, what would be involved in it, what grants are available? 01:44:47
And they're working with Ron French, our our other expert for the for the. 01:44:53
Our lake management plan and so we did a war, we had five bidders and we awarded that and so. 01:44:59
And after the meeting. 01:45:05
The other news is Shane. 01:45:07
I don't pronounce his last name is a camera. Yeah, he he is. 01:45:10
He is the effective leader of LSID. He's not the chairman, but he's. 01:45:17
He's a large landowner. 01:45:21
He's very involved in LSA and he wants to come and talk. 01:45:23
To our committee. 01:45:28
The month to be May when we consider giving money to the Rock River Group. 01:45:31
So that's all I have in mind. 01:45:38
Begin the process of putting our. 01:45:42
Exposure in one of the bays and Beaver Dam Lake and that begins with a permitting process. 01:45:45
And you've all seen these stakes before. 01:45:51
Pretty simple process for taking these stakes, driving them into the lake bed. 01:45:54
First player will be a mesh. 01:45:58
That will keep the carp out. Second layer is a geotech fabric. 01:46:00
That'll. 01:46:04
Quiet the waters down and keep the other smaller fish out. 01:46:05
And the process does begin with the permitting. 01:46:09
We have filed that with the DNR that's county is not require one. 01:46:11
The permit fee has been waived because we were fortunate to get a surface water grant. 01:46:16
And we prepared the permit ourselves as part of that the. 01:46:22
Surface Water grant. 01:46:27
So normally would cost. 01:46:29
Roughly $1600 to get that permit in place. 01:46:31
So once we're complete. 01:46:34
Well one more thing, our water quality specialist out of Fishburg is a Co sponsor of this. 01:46:36
So we will have DNR support through that. 01:46:41
So when we're complete, we're going to ask that there's a separate. 01:46:45
Category for permitting for DNR where you have a conservation beneficial project. 01:46:49
There shouldn't be a fee for that. 01:46:54
And let the local district or association or the DNR each themselves write that permit and let it go through that way. 01:46:55
So that should be something long term that we're going to propose. 01:47:03
The other factor, the 20 by 20. 01:47:07
Enclosure is .009. 01:47:11
Acres. 01:47:13
Can you go back and explain what you're doing with the stakes? And I'm sorry, the stakes will protect. 01:47:15
A 20 by 20 area. 01:47:22
In the artillery will be a mesh 4x4 steel wire like flat across it vertical. OK thank you. I'm like not getting my head around 01:47:23
that around. 01:47:30
That'll keep the wave action down and keep the other sedimentation and the smaller fish out. They're going to have an open area. 01:47:36
And a half it'll be for planting of aquatic vegetation. 01:47:43
And where is the 20 by 20 area? It should go by the conservationist Bay be behind Nielsen Island. 01:47:48
OK, so it's a protected area, protected by fetch, it's not. 01:47:54
Very much invasive back there. Mostly it is protected with the. 01:47:59
Native plantings. 01:48:03
So there's a lot of benefits for that location. 01:48:05
Thank you. 01:48:08
And again, it's to see what the impact is without having rough fish tear up the bottom. 01:48:10
And what the aquatic vegetation we can get into our leg, that'll be beneficial. 01:48:14
OK. Because I couldn't understand why you thought 20 feet is going to do something. It's just a test. 01:48:19
Demonstration will take sucky disc. 01:48:26
Measurements will take photographs for governance every two weeks. 01:48:28
And plotted for two years. OK, Thank you. 01:48:31
So that's .009 acres. So that's interesting after going to the conference. 01:48:36
The wake boat took out six acres. 01:48:41
So I have to get a permit for this .9 acres. 01:48:44
But the lake boat is. 01:48:48
Without a permit. 01:48:49
Kind of the footnote. 01:48:52
We have had additional meetings with the in our fisheries regarding rough fish. 01:48:54
And they have a new, interesting approach. They're seeing rough fish. 01:48:59
Do not affect water quality. 01:49:03
Oh boy. 01:49:04
This is DNR or can only. We have not found that be any other area saying that. 01:49:07
We've asked for alternatives, do not have any. 01:49:12
And we've asked them what can be done. 01:49:17
To make it more as we go forward in the coming years. 01:49:20
And they're thinking about that. 01:49:23
We have gone out to a number of. 01:49:29
Other knowledgeable sources? 01:49:31
And we have not found any. 01:49:33
Supporting data that says. 01:49:35
Roughfish do not affect water quality. You go to the DNR website. 01:49:38
They have the SWIMS program that shows the total phosphorus. 01:49:43
And you look at that graph. 01:49:48
Goes back 15 years. 01:49:50
If you follow from 2005 to 2017. 01:49:52
When rough fish were removed from the lake. 01:49:57
The faster slogans doing this. 01:49:59
Using 2017, will they stop doing it? 01:50:01
Does that. 01:50:04
So from their website it tells me that that is not a good theory. 01:50:05
So we're gonna. 01:50:10
Plot on and see if we can get them to change their mind. 01:50:11
Do you think they actually know what they're saying or they're just trying to? I'd rather not comment, OK? 01:50:15
It's opinion, that fact. 01:50:21
Go to, go to their website and read the website. 01:50:24
You can also go to Noah. There's some very good information there regarding precipitation and rainfalls. 01:50:32
That can be used to plot. You can also go to our USGS station. 01:50:38
For Beaver Dam. 01:50:43
Down and it shows the water flows. So there's a lot of data out there that really doesn't. 01:50:44
Support the theory. 01:50:50
But again. 01:50:54
Should be king. 01:50:56
Scientific Data. 01:50:57
OK, Fox Lake. 01:51:01
So first discussion was the. 01:51:03
As I said last month, the employee of MCO that. 01:51:06
Maintains and. 01:51:13
Repairs. 01:51:15
The Fox Lake wastewater system put his notice in. 01:51:16
So. 01:51:21
MCO has been interviewing candidates to replace that employee. 01:51:22
And not having a whole lot of luck. 01:51:27
One of the reasons why he thinks people don't like the position so much is that. 01:51:32
Sometimes you have to be on call during weekends because you know if something bad happens to the system. 01:51:36
There has to be someone there to fix it. 01:51:42
So they're gonna reapply and they're gonna. 01:51:45
Increase the salary that they were paying previously by a significant amount. 01:51:48
So he was given a warning that um. 01:51:53
Their charges are probably next year when their contract comes up to renew will be probably at least 12% higher. 01:51:56
And on the tone of Fox League report they have purchased. 01:52:05
New boys for the lake. 01:52:09
That's done by the town, not the Lake District. 01:52:12
And there are also. 01:52:16
About to make. 01:52:19
Wait, since the town of Fox Lake did pass a wakeboard ordinance that has passed? 01:52:20
So now they want to put signs up by all the boat landings. 01:52:26
Notifying people of the ordinance. 01:52:30
They wanted to get DNR approval for the wording on the signs. 01:52:33
Which has not come back yet. 01:52:37
And the guy they were talking to him, the DNR, was the local warden, which is Nicholas Webster, I believe, and he's from 01:52:40
Pittsburgh. 01:52:43
So. 01:52:47
They're waiting on the wording of the signs till they get back from the DNR. 01:52:49
And then? 01:52:54
One of our committee members. 01:52:56
Is also a. 01:52:58
The local judge. 01:53:00
And he wanted. 01:53:01
That the town has to pass an ordinance giving the judge authority to enforce the citations. 01:53:03
Otherwise, he said, I can't enforce anything unless there's an ordinance on the books. 01:53:11
What judge? 01:53:15
About about the way about an ordinance stating that he has the authority to Yeah. 01:53:18
We have a water ordinance for everything else on the lake. Can't you just include it in that? 01:53:26
I don't know. 01:53:31
It's beyond my scope. Is it? Is it a Dodge County judge or Columbia? 01:53:32
No, it's a local town judge. Oh, a town judge. 01:53:37
Like a municipal one? 01:53:41
Municipal, OK, fine. 01:53:42
OK, not a county judge. I'm like, wow, OK. 01:53:44
So then Fox Lake is hosting this year's Pantoon ride from the Alliance and a Healthy Water, Healthy soil group. So there's 01:53:50
discussion on that. 01:53:53
And then? 01:53:58
On another topic, on the agenda was the nano bubblers and. 01:53:59
Just had some discussion on that. 01:54:06
Tri Lakes, which is another lake in Wisconsin. 01:54:08
Their district. 01:54:12
Or their municipalities actually borrowed $3,000,000. 01:54:13
To install nano bubblers in their lake. 01:54:18
So they were convinced that they would really help the lake bottom under lake. 01:54:22
They didn't really get approval from the DNR till October, so it was too late to install them last year, so now they're looking 01:54:27
forward to. 01:54:30
To installing them this year and. 01:54:34
The whole purpose is to take measurements to see before the nano bubblers and after to see if there's an improvement in the late. 01:54:37
And there was some discussion on Fox League. It was just discussion. It was nothing that was agreed upon, but maybe a purchasing 01:54:46
and installing a larger unit on Fox Lake. 01:54:51
And then ask for DNI forgiveness after the fact. Just a discussion. 01:54:56
But they are looking into the cost of an antibiotic, what it would cost to purchase and maintain 1 So. 01:55:01
That's about all. 01:55:07
What day'd you meet Dale? 01:55:09
What's that? What day did you meet? 01:55:10
Uh, let's see. 01:55:13
I have it here is March 13th. 01:55:16
Just a thought. You have an aerator on the bottom of the lake now with big holes in it, right? 01:55:19
Please make the whole smaller. 01:55:25
Much more macroscopic. 01:55:27
It's already there. 01:55:30
The blower in place. 01:55:31
OK, we got upcoming events. John, you put the spring planter. Yeah, the pre plant workshop is Wednesday, April 9th at Jonathan 01:55:36
Gibbs. That's up on County A up by Fox Lake. 01:55:42
That's 9:30 to. 01:55:49
Registration starts on that. 01:55:52
If you're interested in going, call the office and Cheryl sign you up for that. 01:55:54
OK, Next meeting, April 28th, 830. OK. 01:56:01
I noticed on the website that. 01:56:07
The meeting after we have on there the 26th, which is Memorial Day. So what our next meeting be made in 19th? Yep, May 19th. 01:56:09
Hey, motion to adjourn. 01:56:18
2nd. 01:56:24
No second. OK. 01:56:25
All those in favor. 01:56:27
All right. Thank you. 01:56:28
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Event transcript
Stop talking the microphone now. 00:00:00
OK. 00:00:13
I call the meeting to order of the Conservation Extension Committee meeting. 00:00:15
And taking roll call and everybody's here. 00:00:19
And we have no visiting board members. 00:00:24
Zenian or Nope, I don't see any public comment today. 00:00:28
So I'm looking for. 00:00:31
Motion to approve the minutes of the February 24th meeting. 00:00:34
Don't move this bill second. 00:00:40
I'll second. 00:00:44
Any discussion? 00:00:46
Those in favor signify by saying aye. 00:00:48
Aye. 00:00:50
OK. And one other thing. 00:00:51
On the agenda here. 00:00:54
Patty is going to speak instead of Kimberly. Kimberly is excused. So that's the only change that I see. And we got an amended 00:00:57
agenda and that was just the date change from the minutes, so. 00:01:02
OK, I guess. Umm. 00:01:06
You're up, Cindy. 00:01:09
All right, yeah, I'm gonna go over some of the the themes that were identified and and then I'm gonna the next step in this 00:01:13
process is already happening, the information that was collected. 00:01:20
During the forum, which was great, we had 39 people in attendance. 00:01:27
As well as our educators. So they took notes, we developed some themes and they're now. 00:01:32
The educators as well as the program area are working to develop a work plan. 00:01:37
That will be shared back with you as well as the county board. The timeline for that is they're going to get me the reports by the 00:01:42
end of. 00:01:47
April and I will talk to Andrew and Cameron in regards to what what we see and then give a, like Andrew said, a really high level 00:01:52
picture of what we're doing moving forward. 00:02:00
So the themes that were that came up and they're just this is going to be really brief our human development relationship. 00:02:08
Themes were to provide foundational support for parenting early childhood. 00:02:16
Support and education as well as combating isolation through community connection. 00:02:22
And social engagement. And I believe that was all for the aging population. 00:02:27
Our egg support was the sustainable. 00:02:33
Sustainability and growth of farming by supporting succession planning. 00:02:36
Addressing the needs of the migrant immigrant workers and improving, improving the public understanding and communication around 00:02:40
agricultural issues. 00:02:46
The youth development. 00:02:52
A piece, it really talked about the mental health. 00:02:54
Of youth and education and the support of families. 00:02:58
That are helping foster youth development. 00:03:02
Community Development talked a lot about communication. 00:03:06
And sustaining funding models to address the community's health, social and service needs. 00:03:10
So those are this really the high level. There's a lot more information that's being dug into. 00:03:16
So and we will be sharing that back soon. Is there any questions? 00:03:22
All right. 00:03:32
Any questions from the committee? 00:03:34
All right. I thought it went really well. I was, I thought the participation was well, I got the full report. Cindy sent me the 00:03:36
full report with the details that went through, went through the detailed report and. 00:03:41
In and then. 00:03:46
We will. 00:03:49
You said next month will be the work plan. Make sure to clarify work plans will be. 00:03:50
There. 00:03:54
They will probably be after. 00:03:56
The committee meetings is because the the deadline for the program areas. 00:03:59
The Educators is the end of the month. They actually are coming to committee in May, but I will get them the way the last part of 00:04:03
April. But I'll talk to you and Cameron once I do receive those. 00:04:10
OK. All right. 00:04:16
All right. Thank you. 00:04:19
Thank you. 00:04:21
Emmanuel here today or? 00:04:23
Oh, online too. Oh, there he is. OK, yes, yes, I am here. 00:04:26
Then well, OK. 00:04:30
All right. 00:04:31
Man, Manuel, you're up. 00:04:34
Can you hear me? 00:04:37
It's a well, he's he's here to answer any questions. He actually was part of ATV presentation. And I believe Amber's going to show 00:04:39
the clip of Manuel. I know Andrew, you and I talked about. 00:04:46
Adding this. 00:04:52
So everybody could see. 00:04:54
OK. 00:04:55
How we feed our cow is going to have a major impact on herd health, production and overall success of a farm. And there's a series 00:04:58
of upcoming events aimed at getting the latest research to producers. Manuel Pena is the bilingual regional dairy educator for 00:05:03
Sheboygan, Dodge, Fond du Lac and Ozaukee counties. We're happy to have you here today. Thank you so much for having me. Tell me 00:05:08
more about this meeting series. What are the Badger Dairy? 00:05:13
Feeding workshops. I had to get all those words in there right. 00:05:19
Correct. Well, as you were mentioning, this is the way Extension is bringing the latest research on nutrition. 00:05:21
We understand the importance of feeding the cows and how, and also by doing it right, we can increase the profitability of the 00:05:28
farms. 00:05:32
So we want to bring experts on the on this topic to talk to the feeders, the people who's involved in feeding the cows to make 00:05:36
their job better. 00:05:40
Or understand it better too and increase that new production that we all want. 00:05:45
So that answers a bit of the next question, but who should attend this meeting? Yes, yes. Well, anyone involved in feeding the 00:05:50
cows, but also anyone interested on it. But people that feed the cows, people mixing the diet, the herd management, management 00:05:56
people. 00:06:01
But also anyone who wants to understand better feeding the house is probably 1 if not the most important activity in a very. 00:06:08
Farm and. 00:06:16
We want to. 00:06:18
Talk about it to understand it better. 00:06:19
So anyone who is. 00:06:21
Willing to understand it better then should join those meetings, talk a bit about your background and it brings that Spanish 00:06:23
language component to the table. Why is that so critical? Well, yeah. 00:06:28
Well, I'm from Colombia, South America. My mother language is Spanish. 00:06:33
And through some research that the university has done, there's probably more than 85% of Latin community that works in dairy 00:06:38
farms does, and not all of them speak. 00:06:44
English does. It's very important to bring material that they can understand, so. 00:06:50
Probably most of the things that we're producing at Extension right now, we try to do them bilingual. So, so it's more accessible 00:06:56
for everybody. Yeah. How do we register for these events? You have them happening all over the region, right, Right. There's, I 00:07:01
think, 5 events. 00:07:05
Through this month till April happening. 00:07:11
On Wednesdays, and if anyone wants to join those events, they just have to register online. They can visit 00:07:15
dairy.extension.wisc.edu. And just like it's very easy to find that information, or they can also reach out their local educator. 00:07:21
Wonderful. Well, it was so great to meet you. Thank you for being on the show. We hope to have you back and we hope to see you at 00:07:27
one of these meetings. If you are feeding animals on your farm, we'll have a link in the Midwest farm section of 00:07:33
wearegreenbay.com. We'll see you next weekend. Thank you. 00:07:39
Can you guys hear me? 00:07:56
Yeah, we can hear you. 00:08:01
Yeah, that was good. That was good clip. When did that run? 00:08:03
That was wrong. 00:08:06
On the. 00:08:08
Week before. 00:08:10
The starting presentation which was. 00:08:12
March 5th so bro at the end of January. 00:08:15
At the end of January, yeah. 00:08:18
How do you get them to do that? 00:08:21
Well, another of my colleagues was asked if they could go to that kind of interview. 00:08:25
And and they referred to me. I don't know why they didn't want to like the person that reach out didn't want to it. 00:08:33
I think there were like she was having some health issues. 00:08:40
And then I took advantage to it and I think it was a great opportunity also to meet. 00:08:44
The interviewer, which was very, very nice and kind and very. 00:08:51
She was also eager to get to learn more about what we do and probably. 00:08:55
Get to have more collaboration in the future, I think was a great opportunity and I liked. 00:09:00
The effect that he had because we. 00:09:06
We had this. 00:09:09
Program. 00:09:12
Going on, but also we had. 00:09:13
Our covering management practices that went right before and we had like an increased interest from the community. 00:09:17
Because after the after the fact. 00:09:24
And then we had we were sold out for the. 00:09:28
Spanish presentation for that one and we are expecting like a good amount of. 00:09:31
Participant participants for this meeting coming on. 00:09:36
Wednesday. 00:09:41
OK. Any other questions from the committee? 00:09:45
No. Great job. Great job. And how? 00:09:48
Like to get that program. Not everybody sees things online. How? How? 00:09:51
How do you get this information to our farmers in Dodge County that are Spanish speaking to the workers and the dairy? How are you 00:09:56
going to? 00:10:00
Communicate. 00:10:04
Right. Well, there is. There is a. 00:10:06
Website where all the dairy farms are registered for Wisconsin. 00:10:10
And and those have the addresses. We are not allowed to reach them by emails or calling them. 00:10:14
But we are allowed to send them information that we think is important to us using the Postal Service. 00:10:22
And we did send an invitation to everyone of them. 00:10:29
Physically in both English and Spanish. OK, that's, that's good. All right. 00:10:33
All right. 00:10:40
Hearing no questions. Thank you very much. I appreciate you coming on and showing us that that's a great, great thing you did. 00:10:42
Yeah. Thank you guys and thanks for sharing it, OK. 00:10:48
All right. 00:10:53
Cindy, the extension in action. Monthly highlights. 00:10:56
That's the attachment you sent us with the packet. Is that what that is? 00:11:00
Yeah, and that's just something that we'll send out every month. 00:11:05
To our partners at Extension and Action. 00:11:11
Piece. So we're just sharing that with it. There's no additional information unless you have. 00:11:13
Questions. 00:11:19
Questions from the committee that was in your packet. 00:11:22
Just about what each departments doing. 00:11:24
Nope, I think. 00:11:26
I think that's it for that. OK, Patty. 00:11:30
Should I come here? 00:11:33
You can be. 00:11:36
So I'm pinch hitting for Kimberly. 00:11:40
And I hope you get to have Kimberly report to you all soon. Just to remind you, my name is Patty Carroll and I am. 00:11:44
The title is Human Development and Relationships Educator. 00:11:52
And I just always like to remind people in human development and relationships, there are three primary program areas, financial 00:11:56
literacy, education. 00:12:01
Education for aging population and then education for parenting and early childhood development. My primary area of expertise is. 00:12:06
Family development. That's what I got my master's degree in, but I do program in all of the areas I've highlighted, for example. 00:12:16
Planning ahead which is an end of life 6 or 7 module curriculum where people learn. 00:12:24
A toolkit on how to make decisions for planning for end of life. 00:12:32
But today I would like to focus on early childhood education. Cindy highlighted some of the. 00:12:36
Higher level things that resulted from our listening session. And one of the things that at the human development and 00:12:45
relationships table that we talked about was the fact that. 00:12:50
Parents are needing support and early childhood. 00:12:56
Centers, Daycare centers are needing support and helping to develop. 00:13:00
Children. 00:13:06
Children. 00:13:07
Birth to 5. And so I just wanted to highlight a little bit of the ways that I support early childhood education. 00:13:08
The first is. I'm a registered trainer in. 00:13:15
The state of Wisconsin's registry that is a database where all early childhood educators are required to get 15 hours of 00:13:19
professional development and I want why this is important and significant is early childhood educators get paid on average 11 00:13:28
bucks an hour and yet the state of Wisconsin and licensing requires them to get. 00:13:37
15 hours of professional development. 00:13:46
And so extension is a really good source for them to get free high quality. 00:13:48
Research evidence based professional development. 00:13:55
So I provide professional development for and they get the registry credits for early childhood both. 00:13:58
Virtually and in person. 00:14:07
So for example. 00:14:09
Last month I went to Community Care which is a daycare center in Beaver Dam and during their monthly. 00:14:11
Staff meetings. I provided them with an hour of professional development. 00:14:21
Next or this month? 00:14:26
Is it April already? Yes, April. Oh my gosh, you guys in April, I'm going to future All Star Academy here in Juneau and providing 00:14:28
professional development for them during their staff meeting. And I do that in person and then also virtually. But the second area 00:14:34
that I really support early childcare is bringing together the directors, the owners, the operators, the people, the mostly women, 00:14:41
but there are some men. 00:14:47
Who run early childcare and it's called a director's caucus. 00:14:55
So what research shows is in any industry, you need opportunities. 00:15:00
To network with each other. To learn about best practices. To learn about licensing updates. To learn about legislative updates. 00:15:05
And to get information and ideas from each other and so I convened this group together. 00:15:13
And I just was going to point out to you because we just did the listening session. 00:15:20
And I want you to understand that in extension educators. 00:15:25
Do we do take a survey and we do I just. 00:15:29
I I'm this is my convoluted way of saying that I just with Watertown, the Greater Watertown Area Health Foundation, we conducted a 00:15:35
survey of the directors. 00:15:41
To make sure that what we're doing with them is meeting their needs and I pulled up the results the the survey is still open for 00:15:47
two more weeks and I'm bringing this up because it kind of coincides with our listening session that we when when I work with a 00:15:52
group of people I also. 00:15:58
Periodically. 00:16:04
Ask them, hey, are you getting what you need from what we're doing? Do we need to change? Do we need to pivot? And I just pulled 00:16:06
up 6/6 of the 42 people that it was sent to have responded to it. And it's very interesting because we had been meeting monthly 00:16:12
and overwhelmingly so far they want the meetings to be quarterly. And but it's the, the survey talks about dosage, it talks about 00:16:19
content like what do you need? What do you need more of? 00:16:25
And I'll share those results with you as well. 00:16:32
So I just wanted to highlight how I'm supporting early childcare. 00:16:36
But I'm open to any question about any of the programming that I do. 00:16:40
And I'm. 00:16:45
You know, always open either through phone calls or stopping in my office. 00:16:46
Or right now if you have questions about about the support for early childhood or. 00:16:51
Or anything that I do. 00:16:56
Is there sufficient capacity in the county for? 00:16:58
Early childhood owed enough chairs. 00:17:01
For the. 00:17:03
People that want to bring their. 00:17:05
Families that's an excellent question and something that not just extension me, I'm an educator, but Nate Olsens been really 00:17:06
trying to figure out. 00:17:11
What we consider. 00:17:17
Dodge County as a desert, a childcare desert, so and the Greater Watertown Area Foundation also has really been. 00:17:19
Providing grant funding for, for example, Willows Childcare, Joan Beck's childcare center, they received some funding to open up 00:17:28
seats. 00:17:33
Because there's not. In fact, our the the gal Allison before Manuel. 00:17:39
She couldn't find childcare in Dodge County. 00:17:47
And so that is, that is like an economic development. I know that Dodge County has been working. 00:17:50
On it but. 00:17:57
That's a good question, and no, there isn't enough. 00:17:58
And it's difficult and it's very multifaceted problem. 00:18:02
Part of it is that we can't get people. 00:18:07
Young people to get into that industry so they don't have. 00:18:09
A workforce. 00:18:14
Can you put a number on the underserved population? How many hundreds? Thousands of? 00:18:15
No, but I'm gonna just take a note here because I don't have it at the top of my head. 00:18:20
So in. 00:18:26
Our partner, UW Extension partners with Applied Population Lab in Madison. It's a research lab and they did a bunch of research on 00:18:28
the on the childcare deserts. 00:18:34
And. 00:18:40
I can get that information and put it together for you. 00:18:41
Or everybody if you. 00:18:46
You're wanting to know how many kids are without childcare in? 00:18:48
Or they can't find childcare. Is that correct? Yeah. 00:18:53
On Friday I was out to dinner at the pub in Mayville and I saw the construction of the Nude Big Daycare in Mayville. Yeah, that 00:18:56
is, it's framed Owl did. I don't know if you've seen a picture of that. I will e-mail that to you and a Cameron. 00:19:02
So that's, is that $2.8 million and I believe 60. It's huge. I couldn't believe it. I went there. What is that? Oh, yeah, it's the 00:19:07
daycare, the new daycare. It's huge. And that's a partnership, I believe with several of the factories. Isn't that does that, is 00:19:13
that sound right to you? That does with, with, with St. John's. It's like a partnership arrangement with different partners, 00:19:19
right? That's, and they, they, they meaning entities that are trying to work on the childcare desert. That is a very good example 00:19:24
of. 00:19:30
Of triangulating the problem so business. 00:19:37
Private entity and grant funding, but that's just one example. 00:19:40
So. 00:19:45
Yeah, but it's going right now, which is exciting. Yeah, so, and I know they built it on faith. I don't think they have the money. 00:19:46
I think they borrowed the money. I don't think they have at all, You know what I mean? To build that $3,000,000 facility, so. 00:19:52
Yeah, I don't have the particulars, but. 00:19:57
I'll get that to you though, and Cameron, get it to Cameron. I just saw it on Friday and it's like, wow, that's great news. 00:20:00
Any other questions for Patty? 00:20:07
You see, you had a pretty robust, I saw your notes from the forum. You had a lot of a lot of stuff in there in the theme. I think 00:20:09
you talked about building trust. 00:20:14
Support for obviously parents early childhood combat isolation, but awareness seems to be. 00:20:20
And I looked at actually all of the all of the notes on those. Awareness seems to be a theme that keeps coming back. As I was just 00:20:26
telling you prior to the meeting today, we have to get people aware of the services you have and hopefully like you connect. 00:20:33
With this center in Mayville to help educate their Yeah, you know what I mean? We need to be there, we need to let them know and 00:20:40
that we're here and. 00:20:44
But I think once people realize the resource you have, then I think we can make a big difference. So another just a small example, 00:20:49
one of the. 00:20:54
Challenges for early child care is the revolving door of. 00:21:00
The people who work there, their staff, because it is people are underpaid and maybe they they get a degree or they move on to a 00:21:04
school system. 00:21:09
So that there's a revolving door of staff. 00:21:14
And so I'm part of a state team working on some professional development and we're working with a state partner thriving Wisconsin 00:21:17
to create a basics so that they that there will be professional development so that when staff is turning over there's. 00:21:26
There's there's training for them. And so that would work. That would be something that it'll probably be perfect timing for the 00:21:34
Mayville. 00:21:38
Center when it opens up, but. 00:21:43
Yeah, when you talk about the numbers, getting the numbers here, ah. 00:21:47
How do you measure all those hidden costs? Right, because people quit looking for work because they can't get childcare, so 00:21:52
they're not showing up as actively looking and. 00:21:55
That number strikes me as far bigger than the active number looking, yeah. How do you try to capture that? 00:21:59
You know. 00:22:08
So in my in my area of expertise and in my program area human development relationships. 00:22:10
To me, that's like an economic. 00:22:16
It is impact, yeah. And so like my work is going way upstream. 00:22:20
So that little kids grow up and they can think and they can reason and they and then they can be in the workforce, right? 00:22:26
But. 00:22:33
What you're referring to is, so if people can't find childcare and then the mom or the dad say I'm going to just stay home and 00:22:34
take care of the baby, what is the economic impact in our communities for that? And I'm just old enough that I have my very first 00:22:39
grandbaby. 00:22:44
And. 00:22:50
This is in Dane County, if you can believe it. And in Dane County there are childcare desert too. They couldn't find care. And so 00:22:51
then the option was she's a high school teacher. Do you know how important it is for high school teachers to have really good 00:22:58
teachers in the high school? And she was that close to not being able to go back to work to support high school kids. But then 00:23:06
they they were able to find care when an opening came up. So good question and I will find out for Dodge County. I don't know. 00:23:13
To measure that economic impact, there are hidden costs to it for sure. 00:23:21
Down in general city, there's a clothing. 00:23:26
For they so on different logos and stuff, yeah, they've had for the past probably 20 years the daycare center on site. 00:23:30
So what is the name of the company? I can't remember in what city. General city, just on the border. 00:23:36
Is that? 00:23:42
Common or uncommon? 00:23:43
Umm, maybe there's 11:50 young ones there. 00:23:46
I I don't know if it's common or uncommon. I I don't know that. 00:23:48
I'm trying to think of quad graphics because they have their they do they have childcare? Yes. 00:23:54
And that is something that. 00:24:00
We and the Foundation, the Greater Watertown Area Foundation, trying to educate. 00:24:03
Umm, businesses. 00:24:08
And I don't know what the businesses are involved. I don't know who they are that are involved in the Mayville one, but it's true. 00:24:10
If you could find a successful model like that and help educate. 00:24:15
Umm, businesses in Dodge County to support early childcare and then also we've been thinking and trying to figure out. 00:24:21
How Dodge County? 00:24:29
Which is one of the biggest employers? 00:24:32
In. 00:24:34
The area. 00:24:36
Is it feasible that that the county provide childcare? 00:24:38
For their employees, because think of all of the women and men who work over at Clearview. 00:24:42
You know, and there they could they use. 00:24:48
Have we looked at that seriously? No, we we haven't. I mean, we keep talking about it. There's a there's there. 00:24:51
So first, I think it starts, Andrew with a feasible, I don't want to call it a feasibility study, but maybe a survey to all of the 00:25:00
employees. Is this something you would use? Is this something that would benefit you? And then what would the economic impact be 00:25:07
if Dodge County? So we in Juneau, we have Trisha, but then also in Beaver Dam. 00:25:15
Community Care, they have Wilson School which is a huge school, so there could be. 00:25:24
Some infrastructure already in place. 00:25:29
But then. 00:25:32
What are the pieces to make it happen? 00:25:33
You know what other counties have done it recently was that. 00:25:35
A couple counties have done it not far from here, right. There are a couple. I know I saw a couple stories on it. So yeah, yeah. 00:25:38
Anyway, you don't have to tell me now, but is that, is that something you could incorporate in your work plan to at least at least 00:25:44
to do the info part? Yeah, I could. I can help create and I have a program manager that can help me create a survey, an interest 00:25:50
survey for. 00:25:57
Employees around it and then because of my network with early childcare. 00:26:03
I could help and it would. This is high level. This would be Cameron and Dave and like you know, and then the location. 00:26:09
How would this work? Would they be county employees? Would they? Would they subcontract with the county like? 00:26:19
Those are way higher level than, but it's within it's, it's one of our top 11 strategic initiatives for the next many years on the 00:26:25
County Board. So it is right in line with what the County Board wants. And I do think it's something that Nate. 00:26:32
Upstairs. 00:26:40
Extension Patty, Carol, in whatever capacity, Pat Malone, our community development person. Cameron A decision makers. 00:26:41
If we. 00:26:50
If we roll our sleeves up. 00:26:51
I think there's a lot of barriers, there's a lot of things that we would have to. 00:26:54
Flesh out. 00:26:59
I think it. I mean, you have to dream big, right? 00:27:00
To solve big problems. 00:27:04
I don't think anyone in this committee would object to. 00:27:07
Looking into that, I think it's. 00:27:10
Very good. 00:27:12
What we've been talking about, I know I've been talking about for a long time. We haven't done anything. I say, I say let's look 00:27:14
at it. Yeah. 00:27:16
And I'm not correcting you I because I had a long meeting with Nate and I don't know that. 00:27:19
There hasn't been anything done is just such a hard problem and it feels like you're beating your head against the wall. But First 00:27:26
things first, I can. 00:27:30
Absolutely do an interest survey and I can work with human resources upstairs to get it. 00:27:35
Emailed out. 00:27:42
To everybody, let's put it in the plan and then let's get. 00:27:43
This to go through all the right steps. 00:27:47
Yeah, I was gonna say that I think, I think an interest surveys premature. Yeah, because like what are you? What are you? What are 00:27:49
you saying to them? They'll be like sure. It depends. It depends on what you're going to charge me, right. Yeah, so. 00:27:55
It depends. Is the county running it? Is it private using county facilities like? 00:28:03
They have to give a little bit more sense about what they're thinking of. 00:28:07
But the reason these things never happen is because we always look at the budget and we say the budget drives process. 00:28:10
But we lose millions of dollars and turn over millions retraining it Turnover is cost businesses get. 00:28:16
That turnover is a fortune. 00:28:24
But public sector? 00:28:26
Doesn't put the cost of turnover. 00:28:28
In their budget and so they ignore it and it's a huge cost. 00:28:31
But because it's not in the budget, they go, well, we don't have the money for that. And not realizing how much money you save 00:28:36
when you got the same employees consistently. 00:28:40
Working and Clearviews got a huge turnover issue. 00:28:44
Huge nurses, LPN's, the flexies. 00:28:50
Yeah, it's crazy. 00:28:54
Yeah. And so imagine if they were, if their child was in a childcare center less like and you could guarantee them for 5-10 years. 00:28:55
05 would be amazing. 5 would be amazing. Yeah. 00:29:01
OK, I know several schools. 00:29:08
To help alleviate some of this issue, they've not only started 4K programs, but they also have 3K programs now and we have a. 00:29:11
A morning before and after to where they can drop their school kids off maybe an hour early and come pick them up an hour 2 hours 00:29:20
later. 00:29:25
To help with the work work issues. So schools are also working at this, but I'm not aware of any schools that do anything younger 00:29:29
than three-year olds right? You are absolutely correct and. 00:29:35
It so. 00:29:42
Those programs also take employees away from early childcare and so there's a weird territorial it's a very sticky wicket. 00:29:45
Umm and it's, it's one of those really high level problems and it is really difficult because you're right and those benefit 00:29:56
families, no doubt about it. But then the childcare center over here. 00:30:03
Is losing their employees to the school district who can maybe pay a little bit more or Yeah. 00:30:09
So. 00:30:16
Let's not be different John. 00:30:18
So those young kids. 00:30:19
3 year old. 00:30:21
Does that counter their enrollment so they get more state aid? 00:30:22
Yeah, but it's it's. 00:30:27
It's proportionate, so it's not like a kindergarten kid. It's it's a less. 00:30:29
This amount so it does help a little bit but. 00:30:36
Not significant. 00:30:38
Yeah. 00:30:40
Any other thoughts? 00:30:42
Not. 00:30:44
Something definitely have to get. 00:30:46
Fix and we've been talking about way too long. 00:30:47
Yeah, child care, health care, those are two main problems while. 00:30:49
I was in, I was in healthcare management for 13 years, so. 00:30:53
A Childcare was always a big thing. If we can't get this solved, we're not going to solve our workforce problem either. 00:30:59
So, and I know Lisa and I have talked about it for years now. 00:31:04
It's why do we continue to talk about things? I will we do something once. 00:31:11
And that's just frustrating. So many different levels. 00:31:16
So I love to see something finally done instead of just doing surveys talk. We talk all the time. Stop talking and get something 00:31:19
done and not. 00:31:23
Direct that to you. I know, I'm just saying this. 00:31:27
Put that on record. 00:31:31
Well, that would that's what our right, I understand form is. So that was the first step would be to put it in our workplace. 00:31:32
Nothing has been gone off of it honestly, that was we did that for. 00:31:38
How many seem like? 00:31:43
Two years, yeah. 00:31:45
And we have not done anything that was worthwhile off. So I like to see this finally have something to do with. 00:31:46
Let's do something. 00:31:54
I'm just frustrated a lot of different levels with. 00:31:57
Lot of stuff. 00:31:59
So, but let's get childcare. 00:32:01
Done. And let's do something. 00:32:03
Instead of just saying, let's do another survey. 00:32:07
I've done thousands of surveys in my life. 00:32:10
And is what it is. 00:32:13
But let's get it done. 00:32:15
So I'll just leave it at that. 00:32:18
Well, I, I have consistent meetings with Cameron, just whatever and not whatever. I'm sorry, that was disrespectful. I have 00:32:19
meetings with him. And so maybe I. 00:32:24
Yeah, you could communicate our interest. 00:32:31
For sure, agricultural and economic development. 00:32:34
In with Nate too, and then Morgan from upstairs. She's on maternity right now. So so I mean it's very, very much. 00:32:38
On top of mind. 00:32:46
Because of. 00:32:48
You know, just life circumstances. I think you'd be surprised how many people would use it if it was offered. I wouldn't be 00:32:49
surprised. I, I, I wouldn't. 00:32:53
I think there's a county near us that did it and launched it successfully if I'm not mistaken. 00:32:58
And they are and they are successful. Is that Jefferson, maybe? Or was it? 00:33:04
Who was that there was a county nearby. I know I've seen it's just not last day fro line knows yeah. So maybe that would be the 00:33:07
launched it and it is successful. 00:33:13
They partnered. 00:33:20
The county partnered with other. 00:33:21
Said childcare centers, No with businesses. Businesses, OK. 00:33:23
Factories, you know. 00:33:28
Employers. 00:33:29
That they could have so many come to SO. 00:33:31
OK. Well, thank you very much. 00:33:34
OK. 00:33:41
Switching over to conservation. 00:33:43
I don't see Cory. So Matt. 00:33:47
Or your quarry. OK, up, Slayer. OK, that's good. 00:33:49
I guess. 00:33:54
Hello everyone. 00:33:56
Worries in Fond du Lac today so. 00:33:57
I will be here so air. 00:34:01
So basically our workload right now we're working on completing our last equipped contracts for this first sign up. Typically this 00:34:04
is our biggest like equip sign up for the year. 00:34:09
We had roughly 10. 00:34:15
That were pre approved for funding in Dodge. 00:34:17
Right now we have 9 of them obligated, so we're working on the last one. 00:34:21
This is a variety of practices. We had one manure storage system. 00:34:26
A couple wetland complex like scrapes and berms and stuff. 00:34:32
Some cover crops of no till stuff. 00:34:37
Some tree planting forestry stuff. So it was a wide variety of practices that got pre approved. 00:34:42
Our next workload is working on our CSP applications we have received. 00:34:49
For our CSP Classic sign up, we've had roughly 25 different applications throughout the year, so. 00:34:54
Our process now is to get those assessed so we can get them ranked and get them pre approved for funding. 00:35:01
Your guess is as good as ours on how many will get pre approved, but we still got the whole process to go through. 00:35:08
Umm, couple meetings ago we brought up a civil rights checklist that can be scratched. We're no longer. 00:35:15
Required to do that so. 00:35:24
Kind of forget that ever happened. 00:35:26
Our next? 00:35:29
Contract obligation deadline is. 00:35:31
April 4th, so that last equip we just got to get done by next week. 00:35:34
And then we switched to our April 25th deadline, which is when we need all of our CSP. 00:35:39
Conservation Stewardship Program applications assessed and ranked so. 00:35:44
This next month is basically our CSP workload month. 00:35:50
Basically get those all hammered out but. 00:35:54
Other than that, any questions? 00:35:57
And things were working on. 00:35:59
So unequipped. 00:36:02
Cost share, is that a 5050 cost share? 00:36:03
It's, it's per practice, it's roughly 50 to 70%, um. 00:36:06
I would say some of the some of the practices that have like earthwork and diesel fuel involved are probably closer to 50 because 00:36:12
of. 00:36:17
It's not taken in account. 00:36:21
Fuel prices and a lot of stuff, but. 00:36:22
Cover crops and some of those cropland practices are probably closer to 70%. 00:36:25
So how does future funding look or is that? That's a good question. That's a never ending question we've been getting. 00:36:33
We are kind of, we're kind of locked into our farm bill programs through the end of the fiscal year, so September 30th. 00:36:43
From there. 00:36:51
I don't know. Stuff's going to get restructured and. 00:36:53
Reallocated but. 00:36:56
At least our equip and CSP dollars that's kind of allocated throughout the end of the year. 00:36:58
Anything that has inflation Reduction Act, that's kind of an. 00:37:04
Put the kibosh on there's none of that anymore. But we still have our classic signups, our farm bill signups, so. 00:37:08
We learn new stuff every day though, so that could switch. 00:37:18
With that cave. 00:37:22
Thank you. 00:37:24
All right. 00:37:25
Matt, good morning, everyone. Morning. 00:37:31
So just to give you guys an update, as you probably heard, they passed the continuing resolution that keeps us funded through 00:37:36
August. So hopefully everything goes smoothly. 00:37:42
I don't know what their plan is past that, but. 00:37:47
So we're still working on the dairy program DMC. 00:37:51
That's got a March 31st closing date. 00:37:55
On that. So we are probably close to 80% through our producers in the county for that we've got some. 00:37:58
Scheduled for this week. 00:38:06
That wanted to wait till the last possible day to see what the projections were before they signed up. 00:38:09
We are also working simultaneously with the ARC Place program, which is our original commodity program. 00:38:14
That one's April 15th deadline. 00:38:22
Umm. So I think we're probably 7075%. 00:38:26
Signed up with that one. 00:38:31
So we're making good progress there. 00:38:33
And then last week, you may have heard they announced their new program, The Emergency. 00:38:36
Commodity Assistance Program. This is the one that came from the funding that was passed in December. 00:38:42
That program. 00:38:48
Is rolled out. We should start making payments there probably this week. 00:38:50
That's going to August 15th deadline. 00:38:56
This program, just to give you guys a little bit of a heads up is. 00:38:59
Simplified program from what we normally do, it's paying directly on commodities. 00:39:03
That producers have crop reported on, it's got different payment rates for different commodities. 00:39:09
And of course, there's a factor rate. I think they're using 85%. 00:39:14
So there's some pretty good payments coming out. 00:39:19
This program. 00:39:21
The application is very simplified, it's a one page. 00:39:24
Document. 00:39:27
They are going to start mailing prefilled applications to producers this week. 00:39:29
They're pulling information directly from your crop report in 2024. 00:39:35
Pre filling the application, all you have to do is review and sign it if there's any corrections that need to happen. 00:39:40
Based on the crop report information. 00:39:47
Then you'll need to come into the office. 00:39:50
Otherwise, you can come in, sign up electronically, or come sign up in person in our office. 00:39:52
So as you can imagine with this program and the other two programs, we are kind of swamped right now, which is a good thing. We're 00:39:58
not complaining, but little patients. I think we're out making appointments probably a week, 2 weeks. 00:40:05
From today if you want to get in so. 00:40:12
Ladies are doing a wonderful job of handling the information, learning a new program and less than. 00:40:15
Two weeks getting it. 00:40:21
On the ground so producers can receive some financial assistance. 00:40:23
That's pretty much all I have for right now. Is there any questions for me? 00:40:29
Is it on all commodities or is it? 00:40:34
Based on income at all? 00:40:37
It's not based on income at all, it's there is a payment limitation. However 125,000 is the maximum anyone producer can receive. 00:40:39
The commodities that they're using is a specific list of commodities. 00:40:49
Corn, soybean, wheat, barley. That array of commodities? No alfalfa, no vegetable crops. 00:40:55
Anything like that so. 00:41:02
Pretty straightforward. And like I said, it's going directly off of the acreage that the producers have reported for 2024. 00:41:04
Thanks SO. 00:41:12
Pretty simple that way. 00:41:14
Any other questions? 00:41:16
OK. Appreciate your time, guys. Thank you. 00:41:19
I didn't have you on the agenda, but I mean, you could go back to public comment. This is Dylan Bell. He's the county forester. 00:41:27
Just a little bit of an update of what's been going on come up, come up to the mic so it's recorded after. 00:41:37
Fire season and prescribed burnings been keeping me pretty busy. 00:41:46
Occasional land owners, site visits and phone calls from land owners and Dodge County. 00:41:50
For those that don't know, I cover both Dodge and Columbia counties. 00:41:55
Tree planting starting to gear up. 00:42:01
Been getting calls on tree planter rentals. 00:42:05
Finally got the date so when the state seedling orders are going to be delivered. So I'll be getting letters out to the land 00:42:08
owners let them know when to pick up seedlings. 00:42:13
Number of seedlings have been pretty well on par with past years. 00:42:18
Nothing out of the ordinary there. 00:42:22
Once letters go out, you usually start getting a few phone calls of people looking for planters. 00:42:25
Mild winter as far as snow cover, but temps were more what we're used to. 00:42:34
So that with a lack of snow cover, definitely had a lot more wildfires this winter as well. 00:42:40
So that. 00:42:46
Not our typical fire season, so it definitely took time away from forestry work. 00:42:48
Other than that, no real new diseases, insect problems on the horizon at the moment. 00:42:54
Most of the ash has been wiped out by emerald ash borers, so. 00:43:02
Promoting species tree species for land owners that can help recapture those sites. 00:43:06
Get something growing in those lowlands besides Reed Canary grass. 00:43:12
Sorry any question. 00:43:19
Thank you. 00:43:23
We do have a tree planter that the county owns and Dylan houses that and one of his buildings and he takes care of all the. 00:43:26
Arrangements as far as the rental agreement. 00:43:34
I I. 00:43:42
There it is. 00:43:57
It's pretty big. 00:43:59
That's the new day on Friday I took the picture. 00:44:03
The little square. 00:44:06
Present. 00:44:08
Yeah. 00:44:10
There you go. 00:44:11
You wanna hit that light? 00:44:13
You guys can see that OK, I guess. 00:44:16
That's better. 00:44:18
Hi, this is Mark Up, chair of the Land and Water Conservation Board. 00:44:20
This is This video is part of an informative series for new Land Conservation Committee members. 00:44:26
Our refresher to committee members that continue. 00:44:32
To serve and beneficial for conservation staff. 00:44:35
I will provide background on. 00:44:39
Land and Water Conservation Board, or LW, CB. 00:44:42
Which connects local and state government. 00:44:45
On conservation and farmland preservation issues. 00:44:49
The history of. 00:44:53
Soil conservation in Wisconsin goes back to almost 100 years ago. 00:44:54
Many famous people have involved in those endeavors. 00:44:59
To protect. 00:45:03
And preserve our soil in Wisconsin and to implement. 00:45:04
Unique and innovative. 00:45:08
Conservation programming. 00:45:10
There's a great book on. 00:45:12
The history of soil conservation in Wisconsin called. 00:45:13
Appropriately. 00:45:17
Soil conservation in Wisconsin. 00:45:18
Birth to rebirth, and it's by. 00:45:20
Leonard Johnson, 1991 UW Press. 00:45:22
An excellent summary of. 00:45:26
Things that have gone on in Wisconsin related to soil conservation. 00:45:28
Those efforts go back to many Wisconsin conservation icons through the years, including. 00:45:33
Elder Leopold. 00:45:38
And others. 00:45:39
Looking at the duties and powers of the Land and Water Conservation Board as they currently exist. 00:45:42
You can find those in the state statutes in 92.04 who wish to look that up. 00:45:48
And it elucidates us on the duties and powers of the Board in that section of state law. 00:45:54
The LWCB is advisory. 00:46:02
To both Dad Cap. 00:46:05
Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. 00:46:06
And DNR, Department of Natural Resources. 00:46:09
We work closely with those agencies and others. 00:46:12
In addition, we have responsibilities directly related to the farmland preservation program. 00:46:17
And those have changed over the years. It's not as big a part of the LWC programming as it once was. 00:46:23
But we have other had other things that have also gone. 00:46:29
And similar paths such as the Priority Watershed program. 00:46:33
20 plus years ago. 00:46:36
So we continue to adapt. 00:46:38
As things change in state government and on the agricultural landscape. 00:46:40
One of the big things that the LWCB does now are review of. 00:46:47
Land and water resource management plans that each county is required. 00:46:51
To develop and submit to the board. 00:46:56
For review. 00:46:59
We have worked with the counties understand that these planning documents take a lot of time. 00:47:01
And so initially. 00:47:06
It was a five year document. 00:47:08
We have changed that now to a 10 year planning horizon. 00:47:10
With five year review. 00:47:14
So that each county does not have to. 00:47:16
Go back to that lengthy process every five years. We found that to be very successful. 00:47:19
As we continue to work with counties to streamline the process. 00:47:25
Recognizing that. 00:47:29
Staffing is is limited and to try to take advantage of the hours in the day as best can be. 00:47:30
Described. So we have five year review, 10 year plans now. 00:47:37
When we do this, we have the counties, usually the county conservationist. 00:47:42
We try to have someone from the. 00:47:47
County Land Conservation Committee joined the county Con. 00:47:50
Or the other person who's presenting that. 00:47:54
And appear before the board and do a short PowerPoint presentation. 00:47:56
We'd like to have that limited to 10 minutes or less. 00:48:00
So that we can engage in questions and answers and dialogue. 00:48:04
That will help the county as well as help us understand. 00:48:08
It's one of the most rewarding parts of the job. 00:48:12
As we review these and see the rich diversity of. 00:48:14
The counties in Wisconsin from those on the Lake Superior shoreline. 00:48:18
Down to. 00:48:22
The southeast on Lake MI and the Driftless Region. 00:48:23
In the Southwest. 00:48:27
Tremendous diversity in Wisconsin. Unique challenges all across the state. 00:48:28
And we learn a lot. 00:48:33
And we help share information. 00:48:34
So very rewarding part of being on the Land Water Conservation Board. 00:48:36
A very important function. 00:48:41
His review of the joint allocation plans, that's where the money comes from. 00:48:43
To assist. 00:48:48
With county staffing dollars. 00:48:49
We initially look at a preliminary joint allocation plan. 00:48:52
That dad kept and D and our staff develop. 00:48:57
And then the final plan hopefully is done in October. 00:48:59
As county boards are putting together. 00:49:03
Their budgets. 00:49:05
We are continuing to be an advocate for full funding of the staffing grant formula that's found in state law that has never been 00:49:07
fully funded. 00:49:12
Where the state will pay 100% of the first position and then the percentage of the second and third positioning. 00:49:17
County conservation departments. 00:49:23
Because of limited dollars, as I said, that has not ever been truly fulfilled. So we continue to be an advocate for full funding 00:49:27
of the staffing grant formula. 00:49:32
In addition, we are looking at new and. 00:49:37
Innovative ways that we can support. 00:49:40
Conservation efforts and funding in Wisconsin and are continuing to work on. 00:49:42
Ideas coming from other States and from. 00:49:48
Non governmental organizations. 00:49:52
That can help support county staff and county conservation efforts. 00:49:54
An important emerging issue. 00:49:59
Is groundwater quality and quantity. 00:50:02
Those have always been something the Land Water Conservation Board has. 00:50:05
Been aware of and delved into, but now more than ever we're looking at groundwater quality. 00:50:09
Many studies going on. 00:50:14
Around the state with contamination of groundwater. 00:50:17
And then also the groundwater quality, which is a significant. 00:50:20
Import in the Central Sands region and other places. 00:50:25
New one that we're just starting to get involved in relates to climate change resiliency. 00:50:30
We're hoping that. 00:50:37
County will, counties will put. 00:50:38
Some reference to climate change in their land and water plans. 00:50:42
Many already do. 00:50:46
Some do exceptional job of this and others are now recognizing that. 00:50:48
These unusual. 00:50:52
Rain events that we that we have seen in recent years are probably going to be around for the near future. 00:50:55
And we need to adapt to that. 00:51:01
Not only for transportation. 00:51:02
Transportation infrastructure. 00:51:05
But also on on the landscape, on the firemen and our agricultural production regions. 00:51:07
We're always looking for innovative ways that counties. 00:51:13
And other states are looking at their conservation efforts, and we'd like to be the place where people can talk about those issues 00:51:17
and present those. 00:51:22
Pridefully, yeah. 00:51:27
To a statewide board. 00:51:28
We do engage in forums and information gathering. 00:51:31
For instance, we did one. 00:51:36
On frack sand mining and that was an emerging issue in Wisconsin. 00:51:37
To help understand. 00:51:41
The soil and water conservation. 00:51:43
Issues related to frag sand mining. 00:51:46
We will continue to gather information as we're doing right now with. 00:51:50
Innovative funding. 00:51:54
Around the nation. 00:51:55
The composition of the board. 00:51:57
Is dictated by state law. 00:51:59
And that requires the secretaries of the Department of Administration. 00:52:02
Department of Natural Resources and Department of Agriculture. Trading, Consumer Protection. 00:52:07
To be a member of the board. 00:52:12
Or to have their designee be a member of the board. 00:52:14
We're very pleased and grateful that for the. 00:52:17
Attendance from each of those agencies and the leadership that they provide. 00:52:20
In addition, state law requires one resident of a city with a population of 50,000 or greater to be represented on the board. 00:52:24
Also a representative of a governmental unit involved in river protection. 00:52:35
That is my niche on the board currently. 00:52:40
A member of a charitable organization that deals with natural resources protection. 00:52:43
In addition, a farmer. 00:52:49
Any gubernatorial representative. 00:52:51
These people. 00:52:54
Represent. 00:52:55
Different terms of two years or four years. 00:52:57
And then very importantly. 00:53:00
The land conservation. 00:53:02
Committees are represented by three individuals who are elected. 00:53:04
At the annual meeting and even numbered years. So we do have the three LCC reps on the board. 00:53:08
That are very important to us. 00:53:15
Advisory Members. 00:53:18
Include Natural Resource Conservation Service and RCS. 00:53:19
Armed Service Agency FSA. 00:53:23
Also the University of Wisconsin College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. UW Cals. 00:53:26
UW Extension. 00:53:32
And Wisconsin land and water. 00:53:33
Very important partner. 00:53:36
For contact information, I would advise people to go to the Dat Cap website and specifically at the LWCB page. You can find a lot 00:53:38
of this information on there. 00:53:43
Also go to the land and water staff. Matt and his gang are highly skilled. 00:53:50
Very professional. 00:53:55
And can certainly. 00:53:56
Find out the answers you're looking for. 00:53:57
Lisa Trumbull at Dad Cap provides a great deal of support for the LWCB. 00:54:00
Can answer a lot of questions or. 00:54:05
Direct you in the right direction. 00:54:07
Or you can always contact me. 00:54:08
By sending an e-mail. 00:54:11
To Mark. 00:54:12
Dodge Cup at Wisconsin Gov. 00:54:13
That's MARKCUPP. 00:54:16
At Wisconsin. 00:54:20
GOP. So I hope you find this video informative in regard to what the Land and Water Conservation Board is all about. 00:54:22
We look forward to seeing some of you at our meetings or hearing from you. 00:54:29
So until then. 00:54:34
Take care, be safe. 00:54:35
Stay. 00:54:37
I'm Ryan Airsman, A nutrient management specialist with the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. 00:54:57
Welcome to a short talk on nutrient management. 00:55:04
A nutrient management plan outlines the application of manure. 00:55:07
And commercial fertilizer. 00:55:11
At the right time. 00:55:13
The right rate. 00:55:15
And in the right place. 00:55:16
In order to feed the crops needs while protecting water quality. 00:55:18
Nutrient management planning begins with taking soil samples in each field. 00:55:23
Mapping the farms fields. 00:55:28
And calculating how much manure the farm produces. 00:55:30
Next. 00:55:34
The planner lays out the crop rotation. 00:55:35
And related tillages. 00:55:37
Allocates the manure. 00:55:40
And then plans for any fertilizer. 00:55:41
That the crops might still need. 00:55:44
There are numerous variables. 00:55:46
In this process that have impacts on each other. 00:55:48
And off the farm. 00:55:52
SNAP Plus Wisconsin's nutrient management planning software accounts for all the complex variables in developing A nutrient 00:55:54
management plan. 00:55:59
Users can download the program from the website for free. 00:56:03
Snap Plus allows users to input all of their variables. 00:56:07
Snap Plus also provides feedback to the user so they can see where their plan needs adjustment. 00:56:11
The program's models help users understand. 00:56:16
What impacts the variables will have on the plan? 00:56:19
When farmers implement A nutrient management plan that has the application of the right nutrients. 00:56:22
At the right time. 00:56:27
In the right rate and in the right place, they are also protecting water quality because those nutrients stay where they belong in 00:56:28
the field. 00:56:32
Implementing A compliant nutrient management plan helps protect farm profits. 00:56:37
Fertilizer applied. 00:56:42
At too high a rate or with the wrong timing or method. 00:56:44
Could lead to negatively impacting water quality. 00:56:48
And the bottom line? 00:56:51
Implementing A nutrient management plan helps protect against soil loss. 00:56:53
This protects water quality as well. 00:56:58
As the soil itself is the most valuable resource. 00:57:01
On the farm. 00:57:04
For more information, visit snappluswhisk.edu. 00:57:06
Or the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. 00:57:11
Website at D80 CP. 00:57:16
Dot WI. 00:57:19
Gov and search for nutrient management. 00:57:21
Thank you very much for watching. 00:57:24
That'll leave you with. 00:57:32
Two more. 00:57:33
OK. Any discussion on the videos? No. 00:57:58
I had one question. 00:58:02
On the nutrient management planning. 00:58:04
The actual nutrient management plans I think is is a real good. 00:58:09
Form for determining what's needed. 00:58:14
The only question I've got is. 00:58:16
The soil test itself. 00:58:18
I recently attended. 00:58:21
That soil school that Ray Archuleta and Russell Hedrick held at Roaches. 00:58:23
And. 00:58:28
They gave us the background on how these tests were formulated. It was formulated back in 1954. 00:58:30
It's an acid test. 00:58:37
And and they said, really? 00:58:38
Hasn't there been any improvements over all these years and and and and formulating how these? 00:58:41
You know. 00:58:46
Actually. 00:58:47
Saying what's really in your soil? 00:58:49
Of course they're the. 00:58:51
Promoters of the Haney test, you know. 00:58:53
And I think the any test is a lot more complicated. It's a lot more harder to understand the what test. 00:58:55
Any tests? It's a different type of soil test. Haney, you said Amy, OK. 00:59:02
So I'm wondering. 00:59:07
If a farmer decides to. 00:59:09
Forgo the regular soil test and go to a Haney test. 00:59:11
How can you still comply with the new team management plan? Or can you? 00:59:15
The big thing with the nutrient management plan this it requires the soil test be done by an approved state lab. 00:59:22
If I'm correct on that, John, and the Haney test is not necessarily yet an approved lab. 00:59:31
Umm, it's more of a more in depth. 00:59:39
Test because they're looking at I mean they still test for nitrogen and phosphorus and potassium, but they also. 00:59:44
Are testing for a lot more. 00:59:52
In depth like. 00:59:54
More into soil health stuff that. 00:59:56
Approved state labs are not. 00:59:59
Working on yet? 01:00:02
That would be a question for. 01:00:03
From extension OK. 01:00:06
Yeah. 01:00:08
Yeah, because that was one thing that we always. 01:00:10
Issue with is you know, and and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the heat test by any means. 01:00:13
But it's being promoted more and more. 01:00:18
With people that are into the soil health. 01:00:21
Portion of it as compared to in the past. 01:00:25
But it's still not. 01:00:28
And approve you state lab. 01:00:29
Well, if a farmer I mean. I've done both and if you compare one to the other, the NPK levels sometimes are not even very close. 01:00:34
Yeah. 01:00:41
Yeah. So that that. 01:00:43
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't have an answer for you on that deal. 01:00:46
That would be an in-depth conversation with Will. 01:00:49
Did you compare those from the same sample? 01:00:53
Or did you take different areas? 01:00:57
Because you, you wouldn't, you have to take taking the soil sample isn't what you think. You just don't probe once and there's 01:00:59
your sample. They probe in multiple areas by a GPS point and soils vary quite a bit. So it's, it's kind of like a one shot in 01:01:04
window area and it may not even be. 01:01:09
What's right next to it So. 01:01:14
Sometimes. 01:01:17
You wonder. 01:01:18
How representative really is? 01:01:19
That's why typically soil test. 01:01:22
Are like 5 or 6 probe and then you mix it together and you send that in sample from six different points. And so if you're 01:01:25
comparing the two tests. 01:01:29
You'd want to take them from the same sample. 01:01:34
I have a question for my agronomist. I don't even know. I didn't take them to tell if it's a difference between the test. You'd 01:01:37
have to use the same sample to rule out. 01:01:42
A sample difference. That's a good point. 01:01:47
Yeah. So next time if you want, you know when you go out and take your tests, mix it up, send half that each way, right. 01:01:51
Otherwise, otherwise, you can't decide anything you can't determine. 01:01:56
OK. 01:02:06
Recap of the Wisconsin Land and Water Conference. 01:02:09
It's just your guys's opportunity. If you had anything that you saw at the conference that you think the rest of the group would. 01:02:13
Benefit from this is your opportunity to bring that up. 01:02:22
Do you have any? You went to a bunch? 01:02:26
Want to start? Yeah, I did. I went to a lot of the. 01:02:28
The floodplains and the water training ones. Hoping that I would be able to. 01:02:33
Get something that would help. 01:02:40
With this Rap River flood group. 01:02:42
Unfortunately, I didn't. 01:02:45
Pick up anything that would benefit me with that on them. 01:02:48
One thing that we did note here at the. 01:02:54
Annual budget. Annual business meeting. 01:02:57
The National Association of Conservation Districts is our. 01:03:00
National. 01:03:05
Land and water side. 01:03:08
They have an annual meeting every year and this year it's going to be in Wisconsin. 01:03:10
It is July 25th to 30th. It'll be in Milwaukee. 01:03:16
Once they get. 01:03:21
More things finalized. 01:03:23
Wisconsin Land Water has taken the lead on organizing the event, coming up with topics and speakers. 01:03:26
So there'll be. 01:03:34
Reaching out to different counties for presentations and stuff like that. 01:03:35
Registration is. 01:03:42
Around $450 per person for the entire event. 01:03:45
And so far, hotels are coming up at $199. 01:03:51
I did not. 01:03:56
Have any of this put in our budget? So as this event gets closer and anybody decides to go, I'll have to talk to camera and to see 01:03:57
if we can. 01:04:02
Get some funding for that. 01:04:07
But it's kind of exciting that it's coming to Wisconsin since. 01:04:11
Wisconsin is the only state. 01:04:15
That doesn't have districts, we run it by counties, so. 01:04:17
Do you think the. 01:04:23
Programs are also going to be on a higher level given it's a national. 01:04:25
I would say yeah. 01:04:28
Yeah. 01:04:29
Were you gonna put that on an agenda for us later or? Yeah, once I get more information, I'll I'll keep you guys up to date on it. 01:04:32
Thank you. 01:04:39
I thought the conference is well done as usual. 01:04:40
And it was good to listen to the other county folks talk about common issues. 01:04:42
Everybody had the same discussion point in most cases. 01:04:47
The presentations were. 01:04:51
Top notch. 01:04:53
But what he did not see is a workshop. 01:04:55
That would take a challenge. 01:04:58
And break it down to a format. 01:05:01
To get to a conclusion. 01:05:03
So each of the presentations talked about a practice. 01:05:04
Didn't tie the practice together. 01:05:08
To solve the. 01:05:10
Find a solution for the water flooding. 01:05:12
In Rock River. 01:05:15
So you have all these different pieces that you have to put together to solve the issue. 01:05:17
The other big factor was the wake surfing boats. 01:05:23
So wig surfing boats are a new. 01:05:27
Water sport. 01:05:30
They blow water into the lake 30 feet deep by 50 feet wide. 01:05:32
So if you go down the lake about a mile. 01:05:36
You've unearthed about 6 acres of bottom. 01:05:38
So you've taken the top layer of the sediment. 01:05:41
That's very rich in nutrients. You've mixed that in like an egg beater into the lake. 01:05:44
You've also disturbed the bomb of the lake in any. 01:05:50
Habitat down there is gone. 01:05:53
And this is unregulated. 01:05:55
The gentleman from the Ward department was very frank about it. 01:05:57
And it's in the State House now for legislation. 01:06:01
And it's been kicked around for. 01:06:05
I think he said three years. 01:06:07
The boat industry is against. 01:06:09
Significant regulation, of course. 01:06:13
You have on the other side. 01:06:16
Last Wilderness Alliance. 01:06:18
Council Lakes, Wisconsin Green Fire. 01:06:24
All offering a more. 01:06:27
Uniform approach. 01:06:29
For all the lakes across Wisconsin. 01:06:31
So this is a factor that will affect the water quality. 01:06:33
And any lake you have wake boats. 01:06:37
I know Fox Lake is looking at ordinance. 01:06:39
And it was discussed that they. 01:06:42
That the local or local municipality should not put an ordinance in until the state. 01:06:44
Determines what their. 01:06:50
Statutes will look like but. 01:06:51
That's open for discussion. 01:06:53
There's an issue that has to be resolved. 01:06:55
Fairly quickly to resolve water quality. 01:06:57
Anyone else? 01:07:07
Well, I attended one of the breakout sessions by our. 01:07:11
Main speaker the one time that. 01:07:16
Nick Jalinski. 01:07:17
But the breakout session was different than his main topic, and he talked more or less about erosion. 01:07:20
You know, uh. 01:07:24
And he brought his. 01:07:25
Subject in their thing was about holiday. 01:07:29
Measured it by using. 01:07:32
Radioisotopes with beryllium, you know, so that was kind of beyond most of us, but. 01:07:33
But the point is that, he said most of the ocean has occurred within the last 150 years of the last. 01:07:39
20,000 years mostly Rosen has occurred since we started cultivating the land. 01:07:45
And then a lot of the hillsides. And I noticed that by farming. 01:07:50
Have no topsoil left. 01:07:53
In fact, now it's the subsoil that's eroding on top of the topsoil that's been down. 01:07:55
Lower parts of the fields so. 01:08:00
He's a very, very interesting speaker and he brings it about. 01:08:04
That people can realize how much damage is being done. 01:08:09
Without even really physically being able to see it. 01:08:14
Cool. 01:08:19
OK, Ken. Yeah, the one I went to is really interesting and talked about the plastic and recycling. 01:08:23
They say we're. 01:08:29
Eating. 01:08:31
The current of our. 01:08:33
Credit card a plastic a week. 01:08:35
Every single person. 01:08:37
So they were promoting or their big thing was getting into recycling and using not plastic stuff and trying to get away from 01:08:39
plastic and. 01:08:43
Coming up with different things so. 01:08:47
I didn't know it was quite that. 01:08:49
That that bad? The plastic? Yeah. I thought you'd like a year credit card. A year. Oh, how? 01:08:52
A week, they said, which was really like, wow, that's a lot. 01:08:57
Our food, our water, everything so. 01:09:02
Yeah. Thank you. 01:09:07
I went to a climate change thing, which was really interesting because. 01:09:11
You always think of it getting warmer, but in Wisconsin and summers that it's not the summers that are getting dramatically 01:09:15
warmer. 01:09:19
It's the winters are getting less cold. 01:09:22
And like. 01:09:25
Again, I'm just throwing out these numbers. They're not real, but I didn't write them down. But it's like. 01:09:27
They had some, they looked at the coldest point of the state. So it's never us. But like they were, you know, we were regularly 01:09:32
getting. 01:09:36
-40. 01:09:40
You know, overtime. 01:09:41
In the last 5000 years. 01:09:43
And then when you look at the map, the line just kind of the bottom keeps getting higher. 01:09:46
And so now we've only hit like -40 like once in the last 10 years. 01:09:51
It was. 01:09:57
Just amazing. 01:09:59
And it was also amazing to see the difference in that. You know, it affects obviously agriculture, but it also affects the 01:10:01
animals. You don't even think about that. 01:10:06
And it affects all the native plants. 01:10:11
Which aren't as adaptable as animals, so they take time to like. 01:10:14
They just don't adjust as fast and they can't just. 01:10:18
Travel right the dependent on the seeds and blowing and I just thought it was. 01:10:21
Really super interesting. 01:10:26
And the other one I wanted to briefly mention is. 01:10:27
The county administrator formatted government. I think the first half was pretty boring because it went through all the different. 01:10:30
You know County Executive, County administrator. 01:10:36
But I hung in there and they got more into the county administrator format, which obviously is our format. 01:10:39
And you know this is. 01:10:46
Over and over, we keep misunderstanding supervisors our role. 01:10:48
The county chief administrative offers officer is responsible for the day-to-day operations of the county like. 01:10:52
How are the managers doing? Who's responsible? Did they do a good job? 01:11:00
All of that responsibility is on them. 01:11:06
And he said that. 01:11:08
Supervisor, which came up like 100 years ago. 01:11:09
Is the worst possible word to use for people in a county administrator so. 01:11:13
You have regularly all of us have heard people go well I'm a county board supervisor so my job is to supervise and that is 01:11:18
absolutely incorrect. 01:11:21
It is not true at all. 01:11:25
And so they're just taking this word literally. 01:11:28
And it's not. It is the administrators job to supervise. 01:11:31
Is the county board's responsibility to enact policies? 01:11:36
And to the extent that we are going to monitor. 01:11:40
Behavior. We monitor the county administrator. 01:11:44
And say, you know, what kind of a job are you doing? 01:11:48
So when we had the big cluster with the highway department and everybody wants to get into what happened, who's responsible, what 01:11:50
are we going to do about this? 01:11:53
You know, we're gonna fix it and it's like, Nope, wasn't our job. 01:11:57
At all it was the administrators job. 01:12:01
And he fixed it. 01:12:04
And. 01:12:06
I'm not saying we shouldn't be informed, but we there's certain groups that just seem to think that it's our job to fix. 01:12:07
Every management issue. 01:12:13
And how many axles on a truck, whatever. And it's just not, it's just not the role of our board. 01:12:16
And when we were talking about childcare? 01:12:22
Our job is to say. 01:12:25
You know. 01:12:27
Like the like our chairs lead, you know what what plans are going to do with the county and. 01:12:28
You know, moving us forward with extension and meeting services and what's that big picture look like and what's the big picture 01:12:33
look like for, you know, dealing with childcare? 01:12:37
Those are the issues we should be having. 01:12:42
And uh. 01:12:45
I'm hoping we. 01:12:46
To try to direct. 01:12:48
I know, I know, everybody's just sick of me saying we're not supposed to micromanage, but we keep going to these conferences and 01:12:50
they say you're not supposed to micromanage. You're not even supposed to manage. 01:12:54
You know we're not. That's not our job. 01:12:59
So I wish, I wish somehow we could inform people of that, that. 01:13:02
Supervisor does not mean super. 01:13:06
Good point. Should be called strategic planners. 01:13:11
That'd be that'd be the statute is real clear. Your first thing that we every seminary you go at WCA, you're not a supervisor. We 01:13:14
should tape that and play that for the whole board. No, no, no, she she's right. The first thing ever Andy Phillips ever says you 01:13:20
have no authority. You're a planner. That's right. It was it was a she had been she had been up. Yeah, was lobbyist and she was a 01:13:26
high level county board. 01:13:32
Wisconsin Counties Association. She just knew her stuff. Like, wow. 01:13:39
I think it's extremely beneficial to go and thank you, John for putting this in the budget I it seems like. 01:13:46
Use. I've done three Times Now and it's now I'm just starting to get it. It took a long time to 1st meet. It's like I don't know 01:13:52
anything. 01:13:55
And now I'm starting now the terms are starting to make more. 01:13:59
I'm it's making more meaning to me now. It just took a while. I mean, it's such a complex. 01:14:02
Industry or I'm not sure what you call it, it's very complex. There's a lot to it. I did get a lot out of, I like the seminar 01:14:10
Understanding Wisconsin Law and Surface Water. I did get a lot out of that and. 01:14:15
And definitions reasonable use rule. 01:14:21
Those were very helpful to me. I mean, I am not a lawyer, but I mean, it was helpful to just have someone sit down and explain 01:14:26
that to the group. And I thought there was good participation in the seminars also. 01:14:32
The other one I went to because of my interest in lobbying, the conservation prospects, priorities and advocacy, the lobbyists 01:14:38
that Land and Water has in Matt. 01:14:42
Is really is really good. Also to have breakfast with Matt. He came to our we had breakfast with him. 01:14:47
I thought that was incredibly helpful. 01:14:54
And I am lobbying for those things. 01:14:57
Are those you don't know? I lobby for our county and also for WCA. 01:14:59
And so that was very helpful to get the background more of that and I know you're helping getting us a list for when. 01:15:04
Executive in two weeks we're gonna do lobbying again. So we're trying to get, when I say lobbying in particular, I'm talking 01:15:11
about. 01:15:14
Trying to get more money for the wages of our staff in particular. 01:15:18
The state law says they're supposed to do. 01:15:23
You know, three different percentages for our staff. 01:15:26
And they give us approximately half of what we're supposed to get and and then the county board. 01:15:29
Essentially a taxes, a levy to cover what the state is supposed to cover. That's what's really happening. 01:15:35
So, but, but anyway, that was very helpful to me. So I thought it was a good investment. 01:15:41
Umm. I'll be honest with you when I think of the whole thing, The thing that impressed me the most. 01:15:48
Was the banquet of some of those. 01:15:52
People. Employees. 01:15:55
And they told all the things they did. 01:15:57
I think. 01:16:01
Amazing people that you don't need and I'm glad that we recognize them or that the. 01:16:02
With some of those people, that's the only thing they're ever going to get. To be real honest with you, you know they've worked 01:16:08
their butts off. 01:16:11
In some of those counties and I, I was amazed. 01:16:14
It inspired me. 01:16:18
To be a better person, I think. 01:16:19
To see how hard some of those people and they were doing it just because. 01:16:22
They had a heart for trying to make a difference. That's the only reason they did it. They because they were really, they were 01:16:26
honestly just good people really working hard. 01:16:30
And it was really meaningful to me to hear their story, their testimony. 01:16:35
And I'm glad. I think that if you ever give feedback on it, I think it's critically important. And I wasn't here when some of our 01:16:39
employees got some recognition. You told me that that had happened for Dodge County. 01:16:45
In the past. 01:16:51
But I my hats off to them for doing that because I don't think those people are ever thin. It's a thankless job. They don't get 01:16:53
thanked for doing all that work they do. 01:16:57
And neither do you, I know. So thank you and thank you guys that are here. 01:17:02
So I thought that's what really inspired me. 01:17:06
Yeah, so. 01:17:09
All right, I did have one person come up to me. 01:17:10
And he is a committee member from a different county up north. 01:17:14
And he asked me how do I get from Dodge County? How do I get? 01:17:18
Most you guys to attend that conference and. 01:17:23
It's not me sitting here begging you guys to go. It's. 01:17:28
Some of you that have gone and you encourage the others to go. 01:17:31
You know, you feel you get something out of it and that's why you continue to go. 01:17:35
If you if you felt it was a waste of your time, you would you wouldn't go. 01:17:39
So. 01:17:43
I thought it was one of the best ever. It really did. I thought they just keep getting better. They really build on it. Just 01:17:43
tremendous information. 01:17:47
Just. 01:17:51
You know, once in a while there's a dud and I, I never hit anything that was like that. Everything I attended was just super 01:17:52
informative in it. 01:17:56
We had a main speaker on soil science and I thought, Oh my God, I. 01:18:00
Was shocked. You know, it's like a mini universe, you know, just a truly a minute. I know you all know this, but I was like. 01:18:05
No idea how complex it was and he was so. 01:18:12
Excited, you know, and. 01:18:16
It was just you went to that, right? That was he was, he was amazing. 01:18:18
It was really good. 01:18:22
The other one that was really interesting and I've heard him speak before, last name was Gingras. He talked about the generations. 01:18:23
Yeah, Baby Boomers, Gen. Z, Gen. X. That the difference in. 01:18:31
What they perceive to be important, you know, and I thought that. 01:18:36
That was really interesting. 01:18:41
All right, so next week, next year it'll be at a different location right back in The Dells, back in The Dells and actually The 01:18:46
Dells next year and. 01:18:50
So closer. 01:18:54
I I mean, it's closer, you should go. It's really good. 01:18:56
All right, we'll put it on our calendars and. 01:19:00
December or I know you. I know that won't. 01:19:04
Be you right when we actually sign up for that, said January. 01:19:07
It's usually in January as a sign up time. 01:19:11
But you I'll make sure you get the information. 01:19:14
When it, when it's coming. So OK. 01:19:16
All right, Tree sales. 01:19:20
OK, we're going to have our tree sale pick up in April. 01:19:22
It'll be the week of the 21st, we'll be working on them and Thursday the 24th will be the day that they'll come and pick them up. 01:19:26
We're only having a one day pick up this year instead of 2. 01:19:32
Because we're not getting the trees until Tuesday instead of Monday, so. 01:19:37
And how many total? 01:19:42
Just over 22,000. 01:19:44
Do you think that's going to affect your sales if people can't do that one day? 01:19:46
No, I won't affect the sales at all. 01:19:51
I think. 01:19:55
Columbia County's been doing one day for forever. 01:19:57
Fact we got our tree tubes coming sometime today. We ordered 4500 of them. 01:20:01
They're supposed to be coming in somewhere between 12:30 and 4:30, so. 01:20:06
That was the last track you saw. 01:20:10
OK, update on the Rock River Flood Group. 01:20:14
OK. 01:20:18
Last month there was a question on the farms as to. 01:20:20
Whether of the main two people that are starting this program that have been involved in this? 01:20:26
What their farms look like as far as are they in the floodplains or not? 01:20:32
So there's four maps with you, one of each farm. 01:20:37
The first map just kind of shows the outline of the farm. 01:20:41
The second map will show you what portion of the farm is in the floodplain or considered a wetland. 01:20:45
And I've got that for for both places. So it's just a point of reference for you, so. 01:20:53
Not all of their land is wetland or in floodplains, but. 01:20:59
A majority of it is. 01:21:05
Can I ask when? 01:21:08
When or how long has it been identified as a wetland or in a floodplain? 01:21:10
The floodplain maps were updated. 01:21:17
5 to 8 years ago. 01:21:22
So it might have encroached a little more than what it was originally. 01:21:25
But that's the Rock River. I mean, it's, it's always been a floodplain. 01:21:30
Soil the the wetland soils that that's always been wetlands. I mean that that hasn't changed. It's based off a hydrology and soil 01:21:35
type. 01:21:40
The floodplain itself might have. 01:21:45
Moved a little bit when they update FEMA maps. Yeah, and. 01:21:48
Frankly, the flooding that they've explained to me is is. 01:21:52
When it's these extreme events exceeds far beyond the floodplain. I mean, that's that's part of the issue. I can tell you right 01:21:56
now the Rock River is out of its banks right now. I mean with with what we've gotten from rain and snow the last few weeks, it's 01:22:01
out of its banks right now so. 01:22:06
I did get an open records request from Lake Ms. District on the original request was on all. 01:22:13
Interaction emails and paperwork going back and forth all the way back to 2022. 01:22:23
With whom or with what? 01:22:30
With this farmer group, with this floodplain group. 01:22:31
So after talking to Andrew, I actually. 01:22:35
Jumped the wagon and I started making some copies and going way back when and then I talked to Andrew about the agenda and he said 01:22:39
no, that's not what they really want, but that's what their e-mail stated. 01:22:45
So I called her and I found out what she actually wanted. So I just she wanted to know what. 01:22:51
My departments involvement with them was. 01:22:58
And I told strictly advisory we're not. 01:23:03
Supporting them in any way as far as coming after the lakes or anything. 01:23:07
I've offered to do. 01:23:13
Conservation plans, if they come up with stuff, projects. 01:23:15
Other than the. 01:23:20
USGS station that you guys have. 01:23:22
Wanted me to put in the budget. That's the only thing that we're really supporting them with. So that's a five year plan. 01:23:27
Yeah. 01:23:33
Yeah. So that's. 01:23:34
We got our next their next meeting is going to be April 9th. 01:23:38
It's going to be that's it's set up for a four hour meeting. They've got two people from UW Madison, two students that are going 01:23:44
to be. 01:23:48
Focusing some of their attention on here as far as figuring out hydraulics, figuring out. 01:23:52
Flood retention areas and things like that. So, so that's. 01:23:58
I think that's going to be a big help for them. 01:24:04
I want to get a couple of different speakers in at that April 9th meeting, one that'll talk about. 01:24:08
If you create. 01:24:15
Recreate a wetland. 01:24:17
What kind of water retention? 01:24:19
Flood retention potential. 01:24:21
Do they have? 01:24:24
And I know it's going to be based on the size of the wetland and the drainage area and all that, but. 01:24:25
Somebody other than me. 01:24:31
Coming in, talking to them that. 01:24:33
Does it for a living. 01:24:35
I also want to get somebody to come in and talk about the difference between. 01:24:37
A dam and a. 01:24:42
Flood retention stand. 01:24:45
OK, because like since it be. 01:24:47
Damn, Horkin Dam and the Horkin Marsh Dam are not flood retention dams. 01:24:50
So. 01:24:58
OK. Any other questions? 01:25:02
Thank you, John. 01:25:05
All right, update on the farm. Any any word on the on the? 01:25:07
Not much much new on that. Will and I are going to meet Thursday this week. 01:25:13
And we're going to talk some more and what we can. 01:25:18
Come up with out there, but is it there something with the lease coming up? Yeah, I did get copy of the lease. 01:25:21
It was. 01:25:28
It was the blank lease that goes out to the public, so it's not a signed one with the current operator. 01:25:30
I've gone through and looked at it. There are. 01:25:36
Things in there as far as conservation compliances and stuff like that. There's even a portion in there about cover crops. 01:25:39
Encouraging. 01:25:49
The operator to plant cover crops. 01:25:51
And I thought it kind of interesting because it said if. 01:25:54
If the operator is unable to plan to cover crop. 01:25:58
Then they need to notify. 01:26:02
I'm assuming the higher department or the county or somebody. 01:26:05
So I don't know if that actually happens or not, but it was interesting to see that in there. But there are several things in 01:26:08
there that talks about conservation compliance, which. 01:26:13
It was good to see. 01:26:19
OK, keep us updated. When would that be signed, John, or how does that work? 01:26:25
I don't know. I just asked. I just asked. Imagine it's, I think it's probably gonna come up forbid probably sometimes this is the 01:26:30
last term of the contract. Yeah, I'm thinking it'll go out probably July, maybe August. 01:26:36
All right, so the part I question is. 01:26:44
If there are. 01:26:47
Conservation measures in the contract. 01:26:49
Why doesn't this department handle it rather than a highway department? Because what knowledge do they have of conservation 01:26:52
practices, you know? 01:26:56
The land was originally purchased. 01:27:02
With grants. 01:27:06
To the highway, to the highway because of the airport. So that's why it's always stayed with the highway. 01:27:08
Does it? 01:27:15
Then and that's that's people above me that'll make that decision if it ever changes. 01:27:16
But Cameron signs a lease, right? 01:27:20
Is it Cameron? 01:27:22
Or is it? 01:27:23
Brian. 01:27:24
I don't know who signs it. 01:27:26
Yeah. I don't know who it doesn't sign. It's keep us in there. Yeah, I don't. I don't know though that. 01:27:29
I would think this would be an interesting question for Cameron, right? I mean, the lease is with the county, right? I think it 01:27:36
would be Cameron maybe, I guess. 01:27:41
Obviously issues with conservation would be with this committee. I mean, like this is not. 01:27:47
Not rocket science, right? Clearly, when you say why wouldn't it be, the answer is of course it is, right? 01:27:55
We just. 01:28:00
Should clarify with Cameron. 01:28:01
I mean, you've got a little bit of a lever here and you want to do this research project and it's saying you got to do some 01:28:04
practices. 01:28:08
You're already talking about a very simplified version. 01:28:11
Couple acres or whatever on each side. 01:28:15
John's on the. I've talked to Brian so I can do a little. 01:28:47
And I'll talk with Brian a little bit about it too, because we're gonna be together next week for a couple days. I think that's 01:28:51
excellent. In our travelings, there'll be a lot of visiting time. Good. I think so. I can. That's great. A lot of face to face. 01:28:56
Yes, I'll, I'll talk to him and see what I can get figured out. 01:29:00
It's already a really simplified research study. So another question just to clarify, from my point of view, I mean. 01:29:06
So the income from the rental that goes in the general fund, it doesn't go into highway. 01:29:12
Project does it. I don't know. I'm pretty sure it goes general fund. I'm pretty sure it does too. We really never, as long as I've 01:29:17
been on that committee, we've never really talked about that lease at all. Yeah. 01:29:22
You should double check. 01:29:28
Least was formulated and I thought that's the way it was in there and it was, yeah. 01:29:31
Good job, All right, Good memory. 01:29:36
I think it'd be great. 01:29:41
For our department and for our county and for all concerned. 01:29:42
Well, especially because the research is right here in Dodge County, it's like really gonna apply to local agriculture. And I 01:29:45
don't know if we need to do anything the extension and let me know too with. 01:29:50
Wills work plan or whatever, you know what I mean. I want to make sure that's. 01:29:56
Like it all lines up, you know? 01:30:00
Sounds good, all right. 01:30:03
Staff Introductions. 01:30:05
OK. I have two of them here today if you guys want to come up and take the hot seat by the mic and. 01:30:07
We most of you know who the staff are, but we have a couple new guys on here that you may have not met everybody so. 01:30:15
Go ahead and start out. 01:30:23
I've talked to you guys before. I'm John Kurt. 01:30:25
Just started my 28th year here. 01:30:30
I work for farmer. 01:30:32
Participants on pharma preservation. 01:30:34
The last meeting I was here, we discussed the transit survey also do that. 01:30:38
I don't know what else. 01:30:44
Basically. 01:30:47
All I really do. 01:30:48
Most of you know me, but I'm Jared Winter. I'm. 01:30:51
One of the technicians dealing with some of the engineering side of that, what we do. 01:30:55
Putting together different conservation practices, somebody comes in having erosion. 01:31:02
I'm one of the two guys upstairs who kind of work at. 01:31:08
Helping those coming up with a plan, a design and you know, getting some sort of conservation plan in. 01:31:11
Umm, I also do a lot with rotational grazing in the county. 01:31:19
But those are sort of the. 01:31:24
Fit in the technician side of things as well. 01:31:26
But that's kind of. 01:31:29
Big part of what I do. 01:31:32
Let's do a little bit of work with the farmers group. 01:31:34
In Dodge County to whatever, they ask something for me. 01:31:37
He's a technical guy in the department. 01:31:42
Any computer problems and stuff? Usually we go to him before we go to it. 01:31:45
You better what, 7-8 years? 01:31:51
Time flies, yeah. So it's. 01:31:56
February will be like 8 1/2 years. 01:31:59
It's easy, young guy. 01:32:03
Yeah, that's good. Well, thank you for all the work you do. We appreciate you and appreciate all the work you're doing and. 01:32:06
It's, it's very important work. Obviously we think it is. And is there anything we can do? Let us know or let John know or. 01:32:12
The new bosses, whoever those aren't. 01:32:19
We just appreciate the support to kind of just go and do what we got to do. 01:32:22
John, are you the one who normally goes out? 01:32:27
Like to get people? 01:32:29
Interested or involved in conservation plans? Or is it more this one? 01:32:31
A lot of times, I mean, it's. 01:32:35
Through word of mouth or through. 01:32:38
Advertising stuff, we put out Flyers or whatever. 01:32:41
Newsletters. 01:32:44
Or when tax accounts. 01:32:46
Meet with their. 01:32:48
Farmers and say your might be eligible for this. 01:32:50
Then I get calls OK or you know when. 01:32:53
Myself or the other technician Dave upstairs when we go and talk to somebody if it's in a Township that is zoned. 01:32:57
For farmland preservation and they have enough acres and stuff like that, I'll sometimes put a little bit of a plug in for 01:33:05
farmland preservation and. 01:33:08
You know, give them some information and then. 01:33:13
Let him know they my parents even call from somebody. 01:33:16
Because I don't, I don't know if I don't think you were here, but in our 10 year plan, one of our big goals and I don't remember 01:33:19
if it was 10% or 20%, Andrew. 01:33:23
The we have a percentage increase improve significantly there's just so. 01:33:28
It's not a big number of people involved considering the size of our county. 01:33:35
It's the nutrient management requirement is the biggest hang up, yeah. 01:33:40
That's a guy called me this morning. 01:33:45
As soon as I mentioned that, he's like, oh, you know. 01:33:48
And then but they think that they're not going to save any money by doing it or it's not worth the time, you know what I mean? 01:33:50
Like you're just going to spread extra stuff. And I think it's initially the cost. 01:33:57
Have it done. So the samples, a lot of there's a lot of firms that haven't had updated soil samples in a long time. 01:34:03
Something that we've run across that have never had samples, yeah. 01:34:09
That's really kind of sad. 01:34:12
So that's that. 01:34:15
Driving with blenders on. 01:34:17
What's that and like driving with a blindfold on Ohio? 01:34:18
So. 01:34:23
That's a tough education is the big thing is to. 01:34:24
The convince a farmer that. 01:34:26
The new management plan or even soil testing. 01:34:30
Is going to save them money in the long run. Yep. 01:34:33
When it firstly kind of came out, we had a lot of opposition from agronomists. 01:34:36
Fertilizer dealers. 01:34:40
I mean, I, I know for a fact I talked to the guy that said his fertilizer, guy said. 01:34:43
Don't do it. It's a waste. It's. 01:34:47
Oh my God, because, well, they wouldn't sell fertilizer, right? Right. They don't care about saving. 01:34:49
If they change their position or they're still kind of not actually, that landowner did sign up. 01:34:55
After the fact, it took about two years, three years, and then he finally did. Does he really follow the plan? 01:35:01
No, that's with T, No, most guys. 01:35:07
All right. They, I don't know. 01:35:10
I would say. 01:35:11
I don't know, maybe 25%, fifty, 50% of guys kind of look at it but still go with their agronomists. 01:35:13
Recommendations. 01:35:20
There's no way to prove it right. 01:35:21
You know, a lot of them look at it just as a requirement they need. 01:35:24
To get the credit. 01:35:28
It's too bad. 01:35:29
There's a maximum amount of credit. I've learned that one of the seminars right there was 3 categories you can fall into. OK $10 01:35:31
credit with under. 01:35:36
Existing exclusive AG zoning only. 01:35:41
$10 credit for. 01:35:45
Zoned townships. 01:35:46
Zone A1 and then a 1250 credit for. 01:35:49
Zone Townships. 01:35:52
A1 and in an exclusive egg. 01:35:54
Enterprise area. 01:35:58
So and I've worked with Dale before and it's exclusive AG enterprise areas are kind of. 01:36:00
It's a lot of paperwork involved for that. 01:36:06
Never would have got done without John. 01:36:09
That's another issue. 01:36:12
Well, thank you. That's helpful. Thank you. 01:36:15
All right. All right. Thank you, Jordan. John, thank you. 01:36:20
OK, committee member reports. 01:36:29
Yes, I'm up. 01:36:32
We had two meetings this month. We had. 01:36:33
I don't know if he'd call it an emergency meeting. We had an. 01:36:37
I guess an emergency meeting on Saturday, March 8th. 01:36:39
At least for library the. 01:36:43
With the LSA and the Hughesford Village President about the the. 01:36:45
He's for dam orders related to the timing of the annual drawdown that affects Lake Santa City water levels. 01:36:50
Umm, So what was discussed was changing the. 01:36:57
2009 dam order known as the Hussesford Dam Inspection Operation and Maintenance Plan the IOM. 01:37:01
From the village. And the reason why we did it is because in April, the village board. 01:37:11
Is going to change significantly. 01:37:16
And the mayor is going to be gone. She's not running. And those are the people that know a lot about it so. 01:37:18
The village recommended that if we're going to make it. 01:37:25
Because of all the complaints they've received from the lake. 01:37:27
People in the Lake District as a. 01:37:31
Not necessarily people from the village. 01:37:33
But they received a lot in a negative feedback. 01:37:35
Umm, they they recommended that if we wanted the LSID. 01:37:38
To make a change, now would be the time to make a recommendation for that change so the village could change their order within 01:37:44
the 1952. 01:37:48
DNR plan. 01:37:53
That's the best way to say it. 01:37:56
It was decided at that meeting that the LSA would recommend that they change the dam orders and then we had a. 01:37:58
We prepared our wording. 01:38:06
And then? 01:38:08
The following that was Saturdays, then on Tuesday we had our meeting. 01:38:10
And then we passed a motion to make a statement. 01:38:14
Regarding regarding the change that drawback and what it does is it changes a drawback from December. 01:38:20
To February back to February 15th, I think it John, correct me if I'm wrong, I think maybe. 01:38:27
Two years has been going on that way, not long, a couple couple years. 01:38:32
And the complaint? 01:38:36
The complaints are. 01:38:38
That the people that live on the lake. 01:38:40
Say they have more. 01:38:43
Erosion in the ice. 01:38:45
Is different the way it moves? 01:38:47
When the water is let down earlier that that's what they're saying reset is that yeah, that's what they're saying. But there are 01:38:49
erosion control is the issue they're saying that their ice he's because the water level lower it's getting. 01:38:57
More under the RIP rap protection and then it's pushing things up. 01:39:05
More soil in that back doing more damage than. 01:39:11
Then if the water level had been higher. 01:39:15
However, at the conference I talked to several other county cons that. 01:39:18
Work more with lake management than that. 01:39:24
And they're saying that that really doesn't have an effect. 01:39:29
That this year was just one of those perfect storms. 01:39:34
Where we had. 01:39:39
No snow cover. 01:39:41
You had freezing and thawing, so you had I sees that you haven't seen in the past. 01:39:43
So it's not necessarily based on the level of the water in the lake according to these. 01:39:49
Other people. 01:39:56
The other major thing we saw in Beaver Dam Lake was the July water, the flooding. 01:39:58
So the water got behind the RIP rap and softened that soil up. 01:40:02
And move the stone. So once you step, move the stones away from the shoreline. 01:40:06
You have a soft, you're not armored anymore. It's not RIP rap. Yeah, it's a bunch of stones. 01:40:10
So then when you hear the freeze thaw, you had weak points that it went after. 01:40:15
The other thing in Beaver Dam and I think about. 01:40:19
20/15/16. 01:40:23
The people in the city were complaining about the water being too high. 01:40:25
And asked for the lake to be lowered. 01:40:29
Yeah, yeah. 01:40:31
I know one thing that. 01:40:33
We're having conversations in the office about is because we do cost share on. 01:40:35
Redoing, restoring the RIP rap. 01:40:41
I mean, this year is a perfect storm. 01:40:46
With climate change, we could have more frequent perfect and. 01:40:48
How often do we go back and we offer cost sharing? 01:40:54
You know I'm not if I cost her to restore their their shoreline protection. 01:40:57
I don't want to put money out there again next year or the year after again, you know? 01:41:05
So. 01:41:10
So we're having those conversations. 01:41:11
I have a question, is in February kind of late for? 01:41:14
Creating storage. 01:41:17
Is it? You know what I'm saying? 01:41:20
Thank you. Especially with the way the weather is warming, that's that's great storage. Then you're gonna have this huge problem. 01:41:22
Well, the other argument is with the. 01:41:26
The wildlife. 01:41:32
You know. 01:41:34
When when salamanders, frogs, muskrats, when they build their winter. 01:41:36
Homes Burrow into the soils in that. 01:41:41
It's based on the elevations in October, November, right? 01:41:44
And then you draw down that stuff after that. 01:41:49
You potentially freeze them out and kill them. 01:41:53
Doll if you're if. 01:41:56
You know, the hurricane marsh, they're all about the wildlife, so. 01:41:58
If you're going to draw it down, you draw it down early so that you're not killing off the wildlife. 01:42:02
At the same time, you need the water levels high for the duck hunters in the fall. 01:42:07
So. 01:42:12
All of those things were discussed at the meeting, as well as implications of down. 01:42:13
But it was decided that the interests of. 01:42:18
That group? 01:42:21
Yeah, that was their interest, yes. So that's. 01:42:22
All is true, but. 01:42:26
So. 01:42:28
Are you recommending making the change? Because doesn't it? 01:42:29
Isn't it concerning that you're making a change based on homeowners? Out of the past 22 years, only two years were done the other 01:42:32
way. 01:42:36
So in the two years. 01:42:40
The last two years is. 01:42:44
Like John said, they. 01:42:45
Claim to have a problem. 01:42:47
I don't know if there's a scientific, it's really very subjective. That's what I'm saying. It's a, it's a perceived problem and 01:42:49
and you're going to do a government solution to a problem that they don't even know for sure. And what he's saying is it's not 01:42:54
actually the cause. 01:42:58
His opinion? 01:43:04
Yeah, that's the problem. It's an opinion. Yeah, it's a very hot political issue. 01:43:06
You leave the water high over the winter time. The other impact is a shoreline. 01:43:11
The water is high enough, it's going to crowd out the vegetation. 01:43:15
And kill that off. 01:43:18
So the preferences have a down. 01:43:20
Allow the. 01:43:22
Sediment to air out. 01:43:24
Allow the vegetation recover over the winter time. 01:43:26
Or be progressively problem. 01:43:30
They will lose a few feet this year, the next year, the next year. 01:43:32
Because you don't have vegetation anymore. 01:43:35
You're saying it's better to leave it to not take it down in February, leave it down in October? 01:43:37
Don't let it at a higher level throughout the whole winter. 01:43:43
That came from both our consultant and DNR looking at our. 01:43:49
That be grandly. 01:43:52
But they would listen to people. You got some experts, but but but this is within the 52 damn order. So it's a this is a explain. 01:43:54
This is like a range. There's there isn't. 01:43:59
It's not like a big change. It's a range. It's a range is what we're talking about. Just in 52. They didn't have a lot of 01:44:06
understanding of the dynamics back then and it was different, different climate conditions. Agree. 01:44:12
The other, the other thing that we passed is we approved $30,000. 01:44:18
Ward to the. 01:44:24
Umm, I guess they're hay and associates for the cost feasibility study of the inlet dredging that's up near Oxbow Marine. 01:44:28
Where the rock rubber goes there and the has been moving up and up and so. 01:44:35
Before in August, we we wanted to get a proposal. 01:44:40
Kate, what the dredging estimate of the dredging costs, what would be involved in it, what grants are available? 01:44:47
And they're working with Ron French, our our other expert for the for the. 01:44:53
Our lake management plan and so we did a war, we had five bidders and we awarded that and so. 01:44:59
And after the meeting. 01:45:05
The other news is Shane. 01:45:07
I don't pronounce his last name is a camera. Yeah, he he is. 01:45:10
He is the effective leader of LSID. He's not the chairman, but he's. 01:45:17
He's a large landowner. 01:45:21
He's very involved in LSA and he wants to come and talk. 01:45:23
To our committee. 01:45:28
The month to be May when we consider giving money to the Rock River Group. 01:45:31
So that's all I have in mind. 01:45:38
Begin the process of putting our. 01:45:42
Exposure in one of the bays and Beaver Dam Lake and that begins with a permitting process. 01:45:45
And you've all seen these stakes before. 01:45:51
Pretty simple process for taking these stakes, driving them into the lake bed. 01:45:54
First player will be a mesh. 01:45:58
That will keep the carp out. Second layer is a geotech fabric. 01:46:00
That'll. 01:46:04
Quiet the waters down and keep the other smaller fish out. 01:46:05
And the process does begin with the permitting. 01:46:09
We have filed that with the DNR that's county is not require one. 01:46:11
The permit fee has been waived because we were fortunate to get a surface water grant. 01:46:16
And we prepared the permit ourselves as part of that the. 01:46:22
Surface Water grant. 01:46:27
So normally would cost. 01:46:29
Roughly $1600 to get that permit in place. 01:46:31
So once we're complete. 01:46:34
Well one more thing, our water quality specialist out of Fishburg is a Co sponsor of this. 01:46:36
So we will have DNR support through that. 01:46:41
So when we're complete, we're going to ask that there's a separate. 01:46:45
Category for permitting for DNR where you have a conservation beneficial project. 01:46:49
There shouldn't be a fee for that. 01:46:54
And let the local district or association or the DNR each themselves write that permit and let it go through that way. 01:46:55
So that should be something long term that we're going to propose. 01:47:03
The other factor, the 20 by 20. 01:47:07
Enclosure is .009. 01:47:11
Acres. 01:47:13
Can you go back and explain what you're doing with the stakes? And I'm sorry, the stakes will protect. 01:47:15
A 20 by 20 area. 01:47:22
In the artillery will be a mesh 4x4 steel wire like flat across it vertical. OK thank you. I'm like not getting my head around 01:47:23
that around. 01:47:30
That'll keep the wave action down and keep the other sedimentation and the smaller fish out. They're going to have an open area. 01:47:36
And a half it'll be for planting of aquatic vegetation. 01:47:43
And where is the 20 by 20 area? It should go by the conservationist Bay be behind Nielsen Island. 01:47:48
OK, so it's a protected area, protected by fetch, it's not. 01:47:54
Very much invasive back there. Mostly it is protected with the. 01:47:59
Native plantings. 01:48:03
So there's a lot of benefits for that location. 01:48:05
Thank you. 01:48:08
And again, it's to see what the impact is without having rough fish tear up the bottom. 01:48:10
And what the aquatic vegetation we can get into our leg, that'll be beneficial. 01:48:14
OK. Because I couldn't understand why you thought 20 feet is going to do something. It's just a test. 01:48:19
Demonstration will take sucky disc. 01:48:26
Measurements will take photographs for governance every two weeks. 01:48:28
And plotted for two years. OK, Thank you. 01:48:31
So that's .009 acres. So that's interesting after going to the conference. 01:48:36
The wake boat took out six acres. 01:48:41
So I have to get a permit for this .9 acres. 01:48:44
But the lake boat is. 01:48:48
Without a permit. 01:48:49
Kind of the footnote. 01:48:52
We have had additional meetings with the in our fisheries regarding rough fish. 01:48:54
And they have a new, interesting approach. They're seeing rough fish. 01:48:59
Do not affect water quality. 01:49:03
Oh boy. 01:49:04
This is DNR or can only. We have not found that be any other area saying that. 01:49:07
We've asked for alternatives, do not have any. 01:49:12
And we've asked them what can be done. 01:49:17
To make it more as we go forward in the coming years. 01:49:20
And they're thinking about that. 01:49:23
We have gone out to a number of. 01:49:29
Other knowledgeable sources? 01:49:31
And we have not found any. 01:49:33
Supporting data that says. 01:49:35
Roughfish do not affect water quality. You go to the DNR website. 01:49:38
They have the SWIMS program that shows the total phosphorus. 01:49:43
And you look at that graph. 01:49:48
Goes back 15 years. 01:49:50
If you follow from 2005 to 2017. 01:49:52
When rough fish were removed from the lake. 01:49:57
The faster slogans doing this. 01:49:59
Using 2017, will they stop doing it? 01:50:01
Does that. 01:50:04
So from their website it tells me that that is not a good theory. 01:50:05
So we're gonna. 01:50:10
Plot on and see if we can get them to change their mind. 01:50:11
Do you think they actually know what they're saying or they're just trying to? I'd rather not comment, OK? 01:50:15
It's opinion, that fact. 01:50:21
Go to, go to their website and read the website. 01:50:24
You can also go to Noah. There's some very good information there regarding precipitation and rainfalls. 01:50:32
That can be used to plot. You can also go to our USGS station. 01:50:38
For Beaver Dam. 01:50:43
Down and it shows the water flows. So there's a lot of data out there that really doesn't. 01:50:44
Support the theory. 01:50:50
But again. 01:50:54
Should be king. 01:50:56
Scientific Data. 01:50:57
OK, Fox Lake. 01:51:01
So first discussion was the. 01:51:03
As I said last month, the employee of MCO that. 01:51:06
Maintains and. 01:51:13
Repairs. 01:51:15
The Fox Lake wastewater system put his notice in. 01:51:16
So. 01:51:21
MCO has been interviewing candidates to replace that employee. 01:51:22
And not having a whole lot of luck. 01:51:27
One of the reasons why he thinks people don't like the position so much is that. 01:51:32
Sometimes you have to be on call during weekends because you know if something bad happens to the system. 01:51:36
There has to be someone there to fix it. 01:51:42
So they're gonna reapply and they're gonna. 01:51:45
Increase the salary that they were paying previously by a significant amount. 01:51:48
So he was given a warning that um. 01:51:53
Their charges are probably next year when their contract comes up to renew will be probably at least 12% higher. 01:51:56
And on the tone of Fox League report they have purchased. 01:52:05
New boys for the lake. 01:52:09
That's done by the town, not the Lake District. 01:52:12
And there are also. 01:52:16
About to make. 01:52:19
Wait, since the town of Fox Lake did pass a wakeboard ordinance that has passed? 01:52:20
So now they want to put signs up by all the boat landings. 01:52:26
Notifying people of the ordinance. 01:52:30
They wanted to get DNR approval for the wording on the signs. 01:52:33
Which has not come back yet. 01:52:37
And the guy they were talking to him, the DNR, was the local warden, which is Nicholas Webster, I believe, and he's from 01:52:40
Pittsburgh. 01:52:43
So. 01:52:47
They're waiting on the wording of the signs till they get back from the DNR. 01:52:49
And then? 01:52:54
One of our committee members. 01:52:56
Is also a. 01:52:58
The local judge. 01:53:00
And he wanted. 01:53:01
That the town has to pass an ordinance giving the judge authority to enforce the citations. 01:53:03
Otherwise, he said, I can't enforce anything unless there's an ordinance on the books. 01:53:11
What judge? 01:53:15
About about the way about an ordinance stating that he has the authority to Yeah. 01:53:18
We have a water ordinance for everything else on the lake. Can't you just include it in that? 01:53:26
I don't know. 01:53:31
It's beyond my scope. Is it? Is it a Dodge County judge or Columbia? 01:53:32
No, it's a local town judge. Oh, a town judge. 01:53:37
Like a municipal one? 01:53:41
Municipal, OK, fine. 01:53:42
OK, not a county judge. I'm like, wow, OK. 01:53:44
So then Fox Lake is hosting this year's Pantoon ride from the Alliance and a Healthy Water, Healthy soil group. So there's 01:53:50
discussion on that. 01:53:53
And then? 01:53:58
On another topic, on the agenda was the nano bubblers and. 01:53:59
Just had some discussion on that. 01:54:06
Tri Lakes, which is another lake in Wisconsin. 01:54:08
Their district. 01:54:12
Or their municipalities actually borrowed $3,000,000. 01:54:13
To install nano bubblers in their lake. 01:54:18
So they were convinced that they would really help the lake bottom under lake. 01:54:22
They didn't really get approval from the DNR till October, so it was too late to install them last year, so now they're looking 01:54:27
forward to. 01:54:30
To installing them this year and. 01:54:34
The whole purpose is to take measurements to see before the nano bubblers and after to see if there's an improvement in the late. 01:54:37
And there was some discussion on Fox League. It was just discussion. It was nothing that was agreed upon, but maybe a purchasing 01:54:46
and installing a larger unit on Fox Lake. 01:54:51
And then ask for DNI forgiveness after the fact. Just a discussion. 01:54:56
But they are looking into the cost of an antibiotic, what it would cost to purchase and maintain 1 So. 01:55:01
That's about all. 01:55:07
What day'd you meet Dale? 01:55:09
What's that? What day did you meet? 01:55:10
Uh, let's see. 01:55:13
I have it here is March 13th. 01:55:16
Just a thought. You have an aerator on the bottom of the lake now with big holes in it, right? 01:55:19
Please make the whole smaller. 01:55:25
Much more macroscopic. 01:55:27
It's already there. 01:55:30
The blower in place. 01:55:31
OK, we got upcoming events. John, you put the spring planter. Yeah, the pre plant workshop is Wednesday, April 9th at Jonathan 01:55:36
Gibbs. That's up on County A up by Fox Lake. 01:55:42
That's 9:30 to. 01:55:49
Registration starts on that. 01:55:52
If you're interested in going, call the office and Cheryl sign you up for that. 01:55:54
OK, Next meeting, April 28th, 830. OK. 01:56:01
I noticed on the website that. 01:56:07
The meeting after we have on there the 26th, which is Memorial Day. So what our next meeting be made in 19th? Yep, May 19th. 01:56:09
Hey, motion to adjourn. 01:56:18
2nd. 01:56:24
No second. OK. 01:56:25
All those in favor. 01:56:27
All right. Thank you. 01:56:28