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The meeting of the Dodge County Board of Addressment is hereby called to order. 00:00:01
Roll call Mark Osmer. 00:00:05
Not here, John Shady Key. 00:00:07
Russ Scott Key here. Rodney Dressman here. 00:00:09
Myself here. 00:00:12
Bishop absent and Brad Coup falls absent. 00:00:14
Are any county board members that here? 00:00:18
John, Board member Lamyra. 00:00:21
Town Chair. 00:00:23
No, that don't count. 00:00:24
A quorum is present. 00:00:30
And staff confirm compliance with open meeting law. 00:00:35
Can confirm Sir. 00:00:38
Any changes to the agenda? 00:00:41
And we'll review the minutes of the November 6th meeting. 00:00:45
Also move to approve. I'll second. 00:00:50
Any discussion? 00:00:55
All in favor say aye. 00:00:57
Aye. 00:00:58
Opposed motion is. 00:00:59
Standoff point Russ is. 00:01:01
Temporary. 00:01:03
Secretary for tonight's meeting. 00:01:04
The staff please read the. 00:01:11
Hearing procedures for tonight's hearing We are meeting today to hear the requests for modification to the Dodge County Land Use 00:01:13
Code. 00:01:17
We have one public hearing tonight and the. 00:01:21
Procedure for the this hearing. 00:01:23
Will be as follows. The Chairman of the Board of Adjustment will read the public hearing notice. 00:01:26
After which, staff member from the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department will read a report that has been prepared by 00:01:30
county staff regarding. 00:01:34
The request before the board Following the staff report, the appellant and or their agent will be asked to come before the board. 00:01:38
The pellet will be asked to state their name. 00:01:43
For the record, and they. 00:01:47
Present their case to the board or add any additional information to the record. 00:01:49
Those in attendance wishing to speak in favor or opposition can come before the board and speak. 00:01:54
If you wish to speak, you will be asked to step up to the microphone. 00:02:00
Which is located in the center of the room and state your name and address for the record and to state your position regarding the 00:02:03
request before the board. 00:02:07
Please address your comments and questions to the Board of Adjustment and not to the appellant. 00:02:11
You only be allowed to speak once, so please be prepared to present all of your concerns and questions to the board. 00:02:16
When you speak. 00:02:22
After those in attendance have spoken, written correspondence. 00:02:23
That has been received by the board. 00:02:26
Or which? 00:02:29
Has been collected by the board during. 00:02:30
The on site visits. 00:02:32
Then be read to the record. 00:02:35
The Board will have an opportunity to ask the appellant any questions. Following the Board's questions, the appellant will be 00:02:37
allowed to give a final statement for the record. 00:02:41
After receiving all the testimony, the board will then deliberate and will make a decision to grant grant in part or deny the 00:02:46
variance. 00:02:50
Request and if approved. 00:02:53
They may place conditions on the approval. 00:02:55
If they feel it necessary to address or mitigate any potential adverse impacts. 00:02:58
The proposal may have on the adjacent properties. 00:03:04
Or the community. 00:03:07
If the variance is approved, the staff will be directed to issue. 00:03:08
Land use. 00:03:11
Permit incorporating those conditions. 00:03:12
And approved by the board. 00:03:15
Any persons. 00:03:17
Person or persons agreed by any decisions of the Board of adjustment. We present the 2A court of record. A petition duly verified. 00:03:18
Setting forth such. 00:03:27
Decision is illegal. 00:03:28
And specifying the grounds of the illegality. 00:03:30
Such petitions shall be presented to the Circuit Court of this county within 30 days. 00:03:33
After the filing of the decision. 00:03:37
In the Office of the Board of Adjustment. 00:03:40
The county assumes no liability and makes no warranty as to the reliance on any decision if the construction is commenced prior to 00:03:42
the expiration. 00:03:47
Date of this 30 day period. 00:03:52
If during this meeting, procedural questions. 00:03:54
Or other points of order arise the final decision. 00:03:57
Of this board may be postponed until more information is gathered. 00:04:00
Considered and properly acted upon. 00:04:04
Thank you, Andy. 00:04:14
NOTICES hereby giving that a public hearing will be held by the Dodge County Board of Addressment. 00:04:17
On Thursday, November 13th, 2025 at 7:00 PM or shortly thereafter. 00:04:22
On the first floor of the Dodge County Administration Building, Juneau, WI. 00:04:27
And the appeal of Burt Busch Key. 00:04:31
For a variance to the terms of the lot with provisions. 00:04:34
For the Dodge County land use code. 00:04:37
To allow the creation of a lot that does not meet that. 00:04:39
Minimum width at the building set back line. 00:04:43
Lots not served by public sewer are required to be. 00:04:47
125 feet in width. 00:04:50
Well, the proposed lot is. 00:04:52
To be 40 feet in width. 00:04:54
That's prohibited by the code. 00:04:56
This request is. 00:04:58
A variance to the subsection 7.3.2. 00:05:00
Of the Dodge County land use code. 00:05:04
Property location lot 2 CM. 00:05:07
6389 in. 00:05:10
The 43 P 150 being. 00:05:13
Point of Northeast quarter of Northwest quarter of Section 32. 00:05:17
Tone of Lamira, Dodge County, Wisconsin. 00:05:21
Location being a N Blue Mound Rd. 00:05:24
A copy of the proposed petition is available for review. 00:05:29
In the county Land Resources and Parks Department. 00:05:32
Between the hours of 8:00 AM and 4:30 PM, Monday through Friday. 00:05:35
All persons interested are invited to attend and be heard. 00:05:39
Written comments may be submitted to the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department. 00:05:42
At 127 E Oak Street Journal, Wisconsin or by e-mail no later than November 12th, 2025. 00:05:48
Dodge County Board of Adjustment by William Knox, chairman. 00:05:55
Annie, would you give the staff report at this early? 00:06:02
County Jurisdiction County has land jurisdiction over this land division. Jurisdiction over This site is the subdivision. 00:06:06
Provisions of the Dodge County Land Use Code. 00:06:14
Our countrywide, except for those lands within the incorporated municipalities. 00:06:16
Subsections 2.3, point 12.8 through 2.3 point 12 point G of the Dodge County Land Use Code details procedural matters and the 00:06:21
approval criteria for the variance process. The board should hold a public hearing on each variance application and. 00:06:29
Following the Public Hearing Act to approve approval conditions or deny the variance. 00:06:38
Based upon the approval criteria of section. 00:06:43
2.3 point 12 point E. 00:06:46
The appellant's request. 00:06:48
An application for a variance. 00:06:50
Request was submitted by the applicant on September 15th, 2025 to the terms of the lot with provisions of the Dodge County Land 00:06:52
Use Code to allow the creation of a lot that does not meet the minimum lot width. 00:06:59
At the set building set back line. 00:07:05
Lots not served by public sewer are required to be. 00:07:08
125 feet in width, while the proposed lot is to be 40 feet in width. 00:07:13
Thus prohibited by the code. 00:07:17
This request is a variance to subsection 7.3, point two of the Dodge County Land Use Code. 00:07:19
This application was denied by the. 00:07:26
County Land Use Administrator for the following reason. 00:07:28
7.3.2. 00:07:32
Area, area and dimensions. Area and dimensions of lots shall conform. 00:07:34
To the requirements of the underlying zoning district. 00:07:40
In an areas not served by sewer shell in addition conform to the requirements. 00:07:43
Of the State Department of Commerce. 00:07:49
In areas where county zoning is not enforced. 00:07:51
The minimum lot size for. 00:07:54
For lots not served by public sewer shall be 40,000 square feet. 00:07:56
Square feeding excluding street right away. 00:08:02
With 125 feet. 00:08:06
Of width at the building set back line. 00:08:08
And for lots served by the public sewer, 10,000 square feet. 00:08:10
Excluding street right of ways. 00:08:14
And with an 80 feet width. 00:08:17
At the building set back line, the appellant is requesting an area variance. 00:08:19
To section 7.3, point two of the code. 00:08:24
Features The county has jurisdiction over the site of the Town of Lamira, has adopted the county's land use code, and the county 00:08:30
has jurisdiction over all land divisions. 00:08:34
Through Dodge County. 00:08:39
Through the Dodge County Subdivision ordinance. 00:08:41
Staff points out the property is currently zoned within the A2 general Agricultural zoning district. 00:08:43
The property is presently being. 00:08:49
Use for recreational wetland woodland purposes and has no residential structures. 00:08:51
The physical features of this. 00:08:56
Approximate 16.726 acre lot include. 00:08:57
Moderately sloping topography with slopes ranging from zero to 20%. 00:09:02
The general character of the surrounding land use consists of agricultural fields, small Woodlands and supporting single family 00:09:07
residences. 00:09:10
It is not it designated archaeological site. 00:09:15
The property does not include any non conforming structures. 00:09:19
Structures or use. 00:09:23
The property has not been subjected. 00:09:25
To a. 00:09:27
Prior appeal or variance. 00:09:29
We did not. 00:09:32
Received recommendation from the Township. 00:09:33
The purpose of the subdivision ordinance purpose statement The purpose of the subdivision or. 00:09:38
Subdivision provisions of the land use Code is to regulate and control the division of land. 00:09:43
In Dodge County in order to promote public health, safety, morals. 00:09:48
Prosperity, aesthetics, and general welfare of the county. 00:09:53
It is the specific intent of this subdivision provisions. 00:09:57
To regulate the divisions of land. 00:10:01
So as to obtain. 00:10:03
A wise use conservation, protection and proper development of the county's soil, water, wetland. 00:10:04
Woodland and wildlife resources and attain a. 00:10:11
Proper adjustment of land use. 00:10:14
And development to the supporting and sustaining natural resource base. 00:10:17
Staff advisory staff believes that the. 00:10:22
Appellant is requesting an area variance to subsection 7.3, point two of the Dodge County Land Use Code. 00:10:25
Staff points out that the board does not have summary powers to ignore. 00:10:31
Ordinance, provisions or objectives. 00:10:35
The burden also falls upon the appellant to convincingly demonstrate. 00:10:38
To the board, the literal enforcement of the Dodge County. 00:10:41
Land use code regulations would result in unnecessary hardship. 00:10:44
The hardship is due to special conditions. 00:10:49
Unique to the property, and if granted, the variance would not be contrary to the public interest. 00:10:51
It's a staff position. 00:10:56
That the board will be unable to make the findings. 00:10:58
Necessary in order to grant a variance in this case. 00:11:01
And therefore the variance request should be denied. 00:11:04
Thank you, Andy. 00:11:10
Would you, felon, please step forward? 00:11:13
Please state your name for the record. 00:11:35
My name is. 00:11:38
Kayla, not Hoff. 00:11:39
Hey, my name is Burt Bush Key on the actual property owner. She's the applicant. 00:11:41
Thank you. 00:11:46
Is there any information regarding your request that you would like to add to the record at this time? 00:11:47
Yes, there is a. 00:11:53
I wanted to touch on a few different notes. The 1 is a unique property conditions which I think we've already covered. 00:11:56
Having the 165 feet of Rd. frontage. 00:12:04
But I really wanted to touch on today's unnecessary hardship and the no harm to public interest. 00:12:09
For unnecessary hardship. 00:12:14
This land is something that has been in our family for quite some time and it is something that we. 00:12:17
That is very special to our family. 00:12:24
So being able to parcel this off so that we would have the ability to build on it while still maintaining its original use of the 00:12:26
agriculture. 00:12:30
And other 4. 00:12:34
14 acres. 00:12:37
Is something that. 00:12:38
We this would give us an opportunity to build a house for our family. Umm. 00:12:40
We had moved out to California two years ago. I had a job with the the government and moved out there and moving back here hoping 00:12:45
to build realizing that two or three acres is. 00:12:51
150 two $100,000 to be able to build and that's just unreal. 00:12:57
Unrealistic for most people, US included. 00:13:02
And obviously that doesn't even cover the house. So being able to have this opportunity to build at the land would be our only 00:13:05
opportunity to build a home, especially for myself and for my family. 00:13:11
We have, we have two little boys that it's really important for us to be able to raise and we want to. 00:13:18
Raise them in the place where we can have like a homestead, we can live off the land, all the things that it seems like. 00:13:23
And. 00:13:30
Having the respect and responsibility for soil. 00:13:31
Health, all the things that it seems like the county is aligned with. 00:13:34
On top of that, another hard, unnecessary hardship would be not only the inability to for us to afford land to build, but. 00:13:39
Also, we do own a farm that is. 00:13:47
Run under the USDA and the Farm Service Administration. We are registered with both of them. 00:13:50
We've had this farm running for. 00:13:56
6:00-ish years and our only bearer right now is that we are run out of space. We have less than an acre of land right now that we 00:13:59
are using from family. 00:14:03
That is not. 00:14:08
Not working to grow our business anymore, so going out to this land would allow us to expand our business and. 00:14:10
Going back to the financial hardship, what? 00:14:17
Allow us to have more income for for our family to sustain our family as well. 00:14:19
So as. 00:14:30
So I feel for those reasons that would cover the unnecessary hardship for the financial reasons of being able to actually build 00:14:31
and then for our business that we. 00:14:36
Are very passionate about as well. 00:14:41
Going to the no harm to public interest this. 00:14:44
Driveway. 00:14:47
Are the driveway would. 00:14:48
Go in the area where there's slower moving traffic. 00:14:53
It would go off the driveway that's already there. We are not requesting any kind of additional public infrastructure, public road 00:14:56
or services. 00:15:00
It would be no financial or Township hard. 00:15:05
As well as. 00:15:11
No, no harm to the public interest we feel. 00:15:13
Are building a house there a modest home for our family would actually contribute to the. 00:15:16
The by paying taxes contribute to the the town and. 00:15:21
Be able to put more money into the town by paying. 00:15:25
Taxes for the home. 00:15:29
Umm, and. 00:15:32
I think those are the the main. 00:15:38
The main points that. 00:15:41
That I wanted. 00:15:43
That I wanted to. 00:15:46
To touch on. 00:15:48
We believe also that the county's long term planning goals of. 00:15:51
Like Sawyer Health, Responsible Land Stewardship, all aligned with our. 00:15:56
With our farm and the way that we want to continue to run things as we focus on regenerative agriculture. 00:16:00
Having respect for the land and. 00:16:07
Proper use of the land. 00:16:10
So with that. 00:16:12
That. 00:16:14
That is everything. That is everything for me. 00:16:15
Thank you and my task in this project was. 00:16:19
Just to go around. 00:16:23
Basically, the county, I don't think we're setting precedents here in the fact that. 00:16:24
Just in the block. 00:16:28
That that's I was able to come up with. 00:16:30
Two parcels of land. 00:16:33
That have less than 125 feet now. 00:16:35
The one that's glaring is just on the road at. 00:16:39
W 2296 Farmersville Rd. 00:16:45
That property. 00:16:49
It goes just like ours, it goes back, widens out, and it's Tom Orman's property. 00:16:50
And he doesn't have 125 feet. There's one over off a why? 00:16:56
That has 33 feet of frontage. 00:17:00
I own land in. 00:17:03
Town of what? Village of Kikoski, as I was called now. 00:17:05
Where my neighbor's property has 33 front of. 00:17:08
33 feet of frontage on Dunn Rd. 00:17:12
So I don't think we're setting precedents here in any means by granting us this 40 foot. 00:17:15
Parcel. 00:17:21
The one that really glared out to me when I was doing the research is the Clear Creek Cattle Company down in 33 that was just 00:17:22
approved in February of this year and I think by the same board where there. 00:17:27
There's 100 foot of frontage that was approved. 00:17:33
On Hwy. 33. 00:17:37
Which to me? 00:17:39
This coming out on the corner of Farmersville Rd. in Dunn Rd. 00:17:40
Has way more. 00:17:44
Serving a public interest, then. 00:17:46
A parcel of land coming out to the. 00:17:48
That's highway of Hwy. 33. 00:17:50
We all know if Hwy. 33 and accidents. 00:17:52
And there was a parcel created there. 00:17:55
In February. 00:17:57
With less than 125 feet of frontage. 00:17:58
So for those reasons. 00:18:01
I feel that this is. 00:18:03
Common sense. 00:18:04
Adding to the tax base. 00:18:06
And I feel that. 00:18:08
The board should grant us. 00:18:09
This variance. 00:18:11
Any questions? 00:18:14
There anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? 00:18:18
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? 00:18:26
Dollars asked three times. Just so you know. 00:18:36
Is there anyone in? 00:18:39
In the audience that would like to speak in favors request, yes. 00:18:40
State your name please, Emmanuel, not off. 00:18:45
Emmanuel non off. 00:18:48
And you're in favor. 00:18:51
Anyone else that would like to speak in favor of this request? 00:18:57
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in opposition to this requirements request? 00:19:00
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? 00:19:08
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in? 00:19:16
Opposition to this variance request. 00:19:18
Is there any staff? Is there any written correspondence? There is one. 00:19:22
Duane Tedding wrote in that he it was in opposition. He said we should stay with subsection 7.3, point two of the Dodge County 00:19:27
Land Use Code. 00:19:31
That was it. 00:19:37
You know, is he a neighbor or something? 00:19:41
And 10095 N Blue Mound Rd. 00:19:45
Fabian neighborhood North. 00:19:49
Does the board have any questions of the appellant? 00:19:55
Yeah, I, I. 00:19:59
You could build one house on this entire parcel as it is now without. 00:20:01
Doing a land division. Am I correct? 00:20:05
Correct, but I couldn't keep. 00:20:08
Possession like you could, you could build a part on there. 00:20:10
And I believe so, yeah, yes, I mean, I, I've expressed my opposition before to. 00:20:13
I'm more against shared driveways than I am against. 00:20:20
You know. 00:20:23
You know you're going to have 125 foot on your new lot. 00:20:25
But I mean the main reason for putting 125 foot. 00:20:28
At the road right away. 00:20:32
Is so you have room enough to cut in the driveway. Obviously you have no intention of cutting in the driveway, so. 00:20:33
I this is kind of a convoluted. 00:20:39
Thank man. Can I ask you a question you. 00:20:42
Talked about. 00:20:45
You wanted to do this to. 00:20:47
Profit your business. I mean, what kind of business are you going to run on this? 00:20:49
This small lot that that's going to be profitable to you or what? 00:20:54
Yeah. So right now we have, we have a business, it's a hunt farm and we've had it since. 00:20:58
2019. 00:21:04
And it is a. 00:21:06
Farm under like the USDA that we that we work with that were registered under. So right now we have less than. 00:21:08
Less than an acre, less than 1/4, yeah, less than 1/4 acre to be able to run our business off of and be having this. I mean even 00:21:15
using like an acre would be. 00:21:20
Four times what we have. 00:21:26
So to give us a lot of opportunity to be able to continue to grow it. 00:21:28
And just I. 00:21:32
I just don't understand the map clearly. 00:21:34
You know, uh. 00:21:37
Your your line. 00:21:37
It's pretty straight there. 00:21:40
Who owns that little? 00:21:42
The I mean. 00:21:44
It's it looks like there's a driveway coming off from the farm across the road there. Yeah, that's what I mean, probably right of 00:21:45
way. 00:21:49
Correct, so the right away line is quite a bit back to the. 00:21:53
East there it shows up on accounting. 00:21:56
Probably just squares off back here, Yeah, because what I was always told is that was intended to be a 90° corner. 00:22:00
When it was. 00:22:07
Plat it, sure. 00:22:09
And and. 00:22:10
At some time they decided to curve it, but the right away still goes straight. So our property abuts the right away. 00:22:12
So technically, you'd actually have. 00:22:18
3. 00:22:21
Different people using that same driveway. 00:22:22
No self and the. 00:22:26
Person net. Well, yeah, because Tedding goes in there. He has to go. 00:22:28
I mean his to the north, but his driveway does cross, I mean. 00:22:32
You don't have actual access. 00:22:37
I mean his. 00:22:40
Your access has to go all the way up to Blue Mountain Rd. there on the. 00:22:41
Right on the flat of the corner. So technically there are three people on that. 00:22:45
I mean. 00:22:49
And it's been a split right here, John. There's one coming off here, yeah, But he's got. Yeah. But that's kind of a unique 00:22:50
situation, that's why. 00:22:54
You know, I go back to. 00:22:59
That's what variances are for, because. 00:23:00
Every square pig does a fitness square hole. You know this property is very unique in the way it's sectioned off. 00:23:03
And it being on the corner like that I think makes it even. 00:23:08
A better candidate? 00:23:13
To split off and put. 00:23:14
Another house vector. 00:23:15
And I know at one time the county had. 00:23:18
A situation where they. 00:23:20
They kind of required. 00:23:23
Depth to width. 00:23:26
I mean this this. 00:23:28
Even now doesn't fit. 00:23:29
That requirement for a land split and I mean now at this, we're going to make it. 00:23:32
You know, make it worse. I mean, there's. 00:23:37
There's giving more parcels with. 00:23:39
The depth with not. 00:23:41
Being required, right? 00:23:42
Not aware of that. Yeah, there wasn't one. Sometimes I think that's why. 00:23:44
You know, it goes back to the east there. There's that little jog in there is. 00:23:48
I think you're something with depth of width. I think at the time, yeah. OK, well, I mean it's, you know, you want your parcel is 00:23:52
too long and narrow as it is now. I mean that's. 00:23:57
I don't know if you created it or whatever, but that's. 00:24:01
You know, but like I said, my I will. 00:24:05
State my opposition to shared driveways. That's just something I. 00:24:07
You know. 00:24:11
That's fine now, and that's exactly why we're doing it, so we don't have a shared driver. She. 00:24:12
She could, you know, there's enough room in there for her to have her own driveway meet at. That's the main reason why we're doing 00:24:17
this. 00:24:20
Is that? 00:24:23
There's enough room there to have two driveways. 00:24:24
Let's just say something happens. 00:24:27
I could still access my parcel, she could still access Airbus. 00:24:29
She might. So how wide is that strip? 00:24:33
That kind of runs. 00:24:36
I should not. I don't. 00:24:39
Your yours is supposed to be 45 foot wide, right? Right and. 00:24:41
What what are you talking about? Just go up by the map, the east West, you know on the on the road frontage that's 125 foot. 00:24:45
Now you're starting versus. 00:24:52
Yeah, what's what's the width? 00:24:54
When you this is 40. Yeah, but what is they? What's the width of that? 00:24:56
You know the only area she'll have to go back to her lot. 00:25:00
Is in there. 00:25:04
Is that? 00:25:05
30 feet wide 25. 00:25:06
I mean. 00:25:09
My would be 40. 00:25:11
It doesn't look like it's that light. I mean I 2 driveways. 00:25:12
I don't know if you could pull a driveway in there. That's another question I have. I mean. 00:25:16
Obviously it works fine now that it's father, daughter, that kind of thing, but they look to be very similar in widths. 00:25:20
His access and her access at that point. 00:25:27
So I bought 40 feet there too. You would think some were pretty close. OK, I mean it's. 00:25:29
And my my main point is to get. 00:25:37
Agriculture equipment back. 00:25:39
To yet farm. 00:25:41
The property I have left and not only that. 00:25:44
The farmer also uses my. 00:25:46
Access to farm. 00:25:49
The farm to the South. 00:25:51
So it doesn't have to go across. 00:25:53
People's lawns. 00:25:54
Actually 2 to the South. 00:25:56
He comes down my right way and goes through my property. 00:25:58
Ticket back there. 00:26:01
Which makes common sense. 00:26:02
I think it all comes down. 00:26:04
To common sense, I think that this is. 00:26:05
A common sense thing being on the corner. 00:26:08
Being a. 00:26:10
Not conforming parcel. 00:26:12
And also the unique characteristics of the property. 00:26:14
Would make it. 00:26:19
An idea candidate for this variance. 00:26:20
So she's building the house, is that correct? 00:26:23
Understand what here it says lot 1 that's what houses 1 you want to build. 00:26:26
But it's part of the old parcel at this time. 00:26:30
Any other questions from the board? 00:26:42
We did. 00:26:46
Approached town and Lamyra. 00:26:47
I know that they did not make a recommendation, but. 00:26:49
They when we came up with this. 00:26:52
125 by 40. 00:26:54
They said yeah, we're all in favor, but I'll never get past the county. 00:26:56
No. And that's very much, you know, when we got denied on. 00:26:59
Minor land division. 00:27:02
But they were all in favor at that time. And which? 00:27:04
Again, common sense why I want to be. 00:27:07
Tunnel Amira needs as much tax revenue as they can get. 00:27:09
Any any house you build nowadays. 00:27:14
What 400,000 minimum? 00:27:17
That's just all the more tax base for. 00:27:19
Lamyra. 00:27:21
No more questions from. 00:27:28
OK. 00:27:30
Would the appellant like to make a final statement for the record? 00:27:32
Yeah, I would. I think just to recap everything that I already said, try not to repeat myself again. 00:27:39
For you guys, but the. 00:27:47
The main point is that this is, this is an opportunity that. 00:27:48
We're just realistically not going to have again, being able to afford land to be able to build. 00:27:53
It's something we've always wanted to do. 00:27:59
I've been with my husband for a very long time and it's something we've always talked about doing and. 00:28:02
This is just finally an opportunity to do so. So it's very. 00:28:06
Obviously very exciting and just aligns with the way. 00:28:10
Again, we want to raise our children. 00:28:13
And. 00:28:17
Yeah, just being granted this opportunity from my family to be able to purchase land at a reasonable amount. 00:28:20
So when we talk about the unnecessary hardship that it seems like it was originally one of the main reasons that they didn't 00:28:27
recommend it applying for. I think the unnecessary hardship goes a little bit more than just not being able to build. It's not 00:28:32
only the affordability. 00:28:37
But it's the opportunities for. 00:28:41
Again, family that we want to have and then. 00:28:44
The opportunity to grow our. 00:28:46
To be able to grow our. 00:28:48
Our business and expanded to maybe it is something that expands for. 00:28:51
For us and our family, a little bit more. 00:28:56
And then just touching on, yeah. 00:29:00
Recap to the no harm to the public interest is. 00:29:02
My dad stated we did already get the. 00:29:05
The go ahead or the? 00:29:07
Informal, I guess approval from when we went to the the. 00:29:09
Board the the town board meetings I. 00:29:12
They were in agreement. 00:29:15
To it. 00:29:17
And I. 00:29:21
I think that's. 00:29:23
That's that's my final statement. 00:29:24
Thank you. 00:29:27
I have one more question for you. 00:29:29
This business, Utah, what is this business? I didn't catch that again. Yeah. So is that Hunt Farm? 00:29:31
Hemp Farm. 00:29:36
Yeah. OK. Thank you. 00:29:38
Yeah. 00:29:40
Please, I'm going to close the. 00:29:43
Public testimony of this hearing at this point in the. 00:29:44
Board will go to the conclusions of the law. 00:29:48
For us, if you would. 00:29:52
His parents. 00:29:54
Request to subsection 7 point. 00:29:56
3.2 of a subdivision. Provisions of the ordinance that refer to the minimum requirement. 00:29:58
Requirements for the new lot. 00:30:07
Yes, yes, yes. 00:30:10
Is there physical limitation that? 00:30:17
Is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying with the subdivision. 00:30:19
Provisions of the ordinance. 00:30:24
Size. 00:30:27
Well, they only have 165 feet or so. They can't. They can't make 220 fives out of 160 out of. 00:30:30
100 and 65170, whatever the numbers. 00:30:35
Yes. 00:30:40
Are are the subdivision provisions of the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome? 00:30:54
In this case and thereby creating. 00:30:59
A hardship. 00:31:01
I would say yes, the dimensions of the you know. 00:31:03
That we've just read off on the last number. 00:31:06
Does the appellant have other options available to complete this project? 00:31:15
In compliance with. 00:31:19
The ordinance. 00:31:20
Yes. 00:31:21
If they would purchase the entire parcel. 00:31:22
Not if they want to build a house, you know. 00:31:27
Right. No, they could build a house. 00:31:28
They purchased the whole parcel. They can build one house there. 00:31:30
Without anything. 00:31:33
What hardship exists if the variance is denied? 00:31:50
I'm going to be able to create a lot for the house. 00:31:55
A separate lot for the host. They won't be able to divide subdivide it. 00:31:58
Is this? 00:32:20
Is this project harmful in any way to the public's interest? 00:32:21
No, I don't think so. 00:32:26
Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision on this request? 00:32:30
Yes, we have sufficient information. 00:32:36
We got sufficient information. 00:32:40
Does the board believe that the appellant's variance request to. 00:32:45
The subdivision. 00:32:48
Provisions of the ordinance meets the criteria that is necessary in order to grant the variance requests. 00:32:50
I would say yes, thank you. 00:33:00
Let me see. 00:33:06
If the board can make the findings necessary in order to grant the variance request in this case. 00:33:14
Any conditions of approval necessary in this case to mitigate any potential? 00:33:19
Adverse impacts that result. 00:33:24
From this proposed development project. 00:33:27
No. 00:33:35
So it's. 00:33:42
Up the motion. 00:33:44
OK, very variance of provision provisions. 00:33:47
I'm looking for a motion to either approve or deny. 00:33:50
The variance to the lot with. 00:33:54
I'll make a motion to approve it. 00:34:00
I hear a second. 00:34:04
2nd. 00:34:08
Motion is made and 2nd to approve right? 00:34:12
Great, approve any discussion. 00:34:16
If not, I'll call the vote Rodney. 00:34:22
Yes. 00:34:24
Russell yes. 00:34:26
Mark isn't absent. 00:34:28
John. 00:34:31
No. 00:34:31
And myself, I will go. 00:34:34
Yes. 00:34:35
So the vote is. 00:34:38
3:00 to 1:00. 00:34:40
In favor of granting the. 00:34:42
Hearings to the. 00:34:44
So the based on the above findings, the conclusion of the law and the record of matter. 00:34:47
The board granted the variance as proposed. 00:34:52
And the Land Use Administrator is directed to issue a land use permit incorporating the decision of the board. 00:34:55
You wouldn't be granting a land use. 00:35:03
In this case, the land division. They got land division asked to be forwarded to the. 00:35:07
Got a committee first before. 00:35:13
So. 00:35:15
Yeah, that's my question. 00:35:16
So we have to reapply for the land use permit. 00:35:17
The land division. When we deny something like this and the variance gets granted, we will circle back with that same application 00:35:20
and and and approve it moving forward. 00:35:25
So approval from you. 00:35:29
In the future. 00:35:31
What's that? 00:35:32
The land division process, you'll have the certified survey map and all that stuff. You have to go through our office, circle back 00:35:36
with Gregor. You've been working with him so. 00:35:41
So for the next step is CSM. 00:35:45
Just yet. Circle back with Gregor and see where where you're at. 00:35:48
Well, thank you. 00:35:54
I appreciate the fact that. 00:35:56
You guys came out to the site and looked at it. 00:35:59
I think that that's key. 00:36:01
To any governmental I don't care what it is. 00:36:02
You can look at a map all day, but when you come out to the site to look at that. 00:36:06
Shows you care. 00:36:10
Thank you. Yes, thank you. Have a good thank you. 00:36:11
In other other business, we don't have any petitions for December, but we are looking at a review of. 00:36:20
Passed approved variances for possible ordinance changes. 00:36:27
And then review of the Board of adjustment responsibilities and procedures. So we'll just do that in the in the business meeting. 00:36:31
9930 on the Yep Yep. 00:36:39
9:30 on the 4th. 00:36:43
Yep, Yep, it's early again in the in the month the 4th. 00:36:45
Yep. Yeah, the daytime meeting on. Yep. 00:36:49
No, on the agenda, your Board of adjustment audit findings, you don't have those yet or? 00:36:53
What's that? 00:36:58
On this agenda I have it says Board of Adjustment Audit findings. 00:36:59
There's another item for tonight. 00:37:03
I do not know. 00:37:06
No. 00:37:07
And I guess the motion would be in order to adjourn. 00:37:10
So move. 00:37:12
Second, all in favor say aye. 00:37:13
Meetings adjourned. 00:37:17
You know, get you to Thoresa. 00:37:18
Got an airplane for me please. Time Machine. 00:37:20
Don't hit a deer. 00:37:23
Yeah, and we are. 00:37:25
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Event transcript
The meeting of the Dodge County Board of Addressment is hereby called to order. 00:00:01
Roll call Mark Osmer. 00:00:05
Not here, John Shady Key. 00:00:07
Russ Scott Key here. Rodney Dressman here. 00:00:09
Myself here. 00:00:12
Bishop absent and Brad Coup falls absent. 00:00:14
Are any county board members that here? 00:00:18
John, Board member Lamyra. 00:00:21
Town Chair. 00:00:23
No, that don't count. 00:00:24
A quorum is present. 00:00:30
And staff confirm compliance with open meeting law. 00:00:35
Can confirm Sir. 00:00:38
Any changes to the agenda? 00:00:41
And we'll review the minutes of the November 6th meeting. 00:00:45
Also move to approve. I'll second. 00:00:50
Any discussion? 00:00:55
All in favor say aye. 00:00:57
Aye. 00:00:58
Opposed motion is. 00:00:59
Standoff point Russ is. 00:01:01
Temporary. 00:01:03
Secretary for tonight's meeting. 00:01:04
The staff please read the. 00:01:11
Hearing procedures for tonight's hearing We are meeting today to hear the requests for modification to the Dodge County Land Use 00:01:13
Code. 00:01:17
We have one public hearing tonight and the. 00:01:21
Procedure for the this hearing. 00:01:23
Will be as follows. The Chairman of the Board of Adjustment will read the public hearing notice. 00:01:26
After which, staff member from the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department will read a report that has been prepared by 00:01:30
county staff regarding. 00:01:34
The request before the board Following the staff report, the appellant and or their agent will be asked to come before the board. 00:01:38
The pellet will be asked to state their name. 00:01:43
For the record, and they. 00:01:47
Present their case to the board or add any additional information to the record. 00:01:49
Those in attendance wishing to speak in favor or opposition can come before the board and speak. 00:01:54
If you wish to speak, you will be asked to step up to the microphone. 00:02:00
Which is located in the center of the room and state your name and address for the record and to state your position regarding the 00:02:03
request before the board. 00:02:07
Please address your comments and questions to the Board of Adjustment and not to the appellant. 00:02:11
You only be allowed to speak once, so please be prepared to present all of your concerns and questions to the board. 00:02:16
When you speak. 00:02:22
After those in attendance have spoken, written correspondence. 00:02:23
That has been received by the board. 00:02:26
Or which? 00:02:29
Has been collected by the board during. 00:02:30
The on site visits. 00:02:32
Then be read to the record. 00:02:35
The Board will have an opportunity to ask the appellant any questions. Following the Board's questions, the appellant will be 00:02:37
allowed to give a final statement for the record. 00:02:41
After receiving all the testimony, the board will then deliberate and will make a decision to grant grant in part or deny the 00:02:46
variance. 00:02:50
Request and if approved. 00:02:53
They may place conditions on the approval. 00:02:55
If they feel it necessary to address or mitigate any potential adverse impacts. 00:02:58
The proposal may have on the adjacent properties. 00:03:04
Or the community. 00:03:07
If the variance is approved, the staff will be directed to issue. 00:03:08
Land use. 00:03:11
Permit incorporating those conditions. 00:03:12
And approved by the board. 00:03:15
Any persons. 00:03:17
Person or persons agreed by any decisions of the Board of adjustment. We present the 2A court of record. A petition duly verified. 00:03:18
Setting forth such. 00:03:27
Decision is illegal. 00:03:28
And specifying the grounds of the illegality. 00:03:30
Such petitions shall be presented to the Circuit Court of this county within 30 days. 00:03:33
After the filing of the decision. 00:03:37
In the Office of the Board of Adjustment. 00:03:40
The county assumes no liability and makes no warranty as to the reliance on any decision if the construction is commenced prior to 00:03:42
the expiration. 00:03:47
Date of this 30 day period. 00:03:52
If during this meeting, procedural questions. 00:03:54
Or other points of order arise the final decision. 00:03:57
Of this board may be postponed until more information is gathered. 00:04:00
Considered and properly acted upon. 00:04:04
Thank you, Andy. 00:04:14
NOTICES hereby giving that a public hearing will be held by the Dodge County Board of Addressment. 00:04:17
On Thursday, November 13th, 2025 at 7:00 PM or shortly thereafter. 00:04:22
On the first floor of the Dodge County Administration Building, Juneau, WI. 00:04:27
And the appeal of Burt Busch Key. 00:04:31
For a variance to the terms of the lot with provisions. 00:04:34
For the Dodge County land use code. 00:04:37
To allow the creation of a lot that does not meet that. 00:04:39
Minimum width at the building set back line. 00:04:43
Lots not served by public sewer are required to be. 00:04:47
125 feet in width. 00:04:50
Well, the proposed lot is. 00:04:52
To be 40 feet in width. 00:04:54
That's prohibited by the code. 00:04:56
This request is. 00:04:58
A variance to the subsection 7.3.2. 00:05:00
Of the Dodge County land use code. 00:05:04
Property location lot 2 CM. 00:05:07
6389 in. 00:05:10
The 43 P 150 being. 00:05:13
Point of Northeast quarter of Northwest quarter of Section 32. 00:05:17
Tone of Lamira, Dodge County, Wisconsin. 00:05:21
Location being a N Blue Mound Rd. 00:05:24
A copy of the proposed petition is available for review. 00:05:29
In the county Land Resources and Parks Department. 00:05:32
Between the hours of 8:00 AM and 4:30 PM, Monday through Friday. 00:05:35
All persons interested are invited to attend and be heard. 00:05:39
Written comments may be submitted to the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department. 00:05:42
At 127 E Oak Street Journal, Wisconsin or by e-mail no later than November 12th, 2025. 00:05:48
Dodge County Board of Adjustment by William Knox, chairman. 00:05:55
Annie, would you give the staff report at this early? 00:06:02
County Jurisdiction County has land jurisdiction over this land division. Jurisdiction over This site is the subdivision. 00:06:06
Provisions of the Dodge County Land Use Code. 00:06:14
Our countrywide, except for those lands within the incorporated municipalities. 00:06:16
Subsections 2.3, point 12.8 through 2.3 point 12 point G of the Dodge County Land Use Code details procedural matters and the 00:06:21
approval criteria for the variance process. The board should hold a public hearing on each variance application and. 00:06:29
Following the Public Hearing Act to approve approval conditions or deny the variance. 00:06:38
Based upon the approval criteria of section. 00:06:43
2.3 point 12 point E. 00:06:46
The appellant's request. 00:06:48
An application for a variance. 00:06:50
Request was submitted by the applicant on September 15th, 2025 to the terms of the lot with provisions of the Dodge County Land 00:06:52
Use Code to allow the creation of a lot that does not meet the minimum lot width. 00:06:59
At the set building set back line. 00:07:05
Lots not served by public sewer are required to be. 00:07:08
125 feet in width, while the proposed lot is to be 40 feet in width. 00:07:13
Thus prohibited by the code. 00:07:17
This request is a variance to subsection 7.3, point two of the Dodge County Land Use Code. 00:07:19
This application was denied by the. 00:07:26
County Land Use Administrator for the following reason. 00:07:28
7.3.2. 00:07:32
Area, area and dimensions. Area and dimensions of lots shall conform. 00:07:34
To the requirements of the underlying zoning district. 00:07:40
In an areas not served by sewer shell in addition conform to the requirements. 00:07:43
Of the State Department of Commerce. 00:07:49
In areas where county zoning is not enforced. 00:07:51
The minimum lot size for. 00:07:54
For lots not served by public sewer shall be 40,000 square feet. 00:07:56
Square feeding excluding street right away. 00:08:02
With 125 feet. 00:08:06
Of width at the building set back line. 00:08:08
And for lots served by the public sewer, 10,000 square feet. 00:08:10
Excluding street right of ways. 00:08:14
And with an 80 feet width. 00:08:17
At the building set back line, the appellant is requesting an area variance. 00:08:19
To section 7.3, point two of the code. 00:08:24
Features The county has jurisdiction over the site of the Town of Lamira, has adopted the county's land use code, and the county 00:08:30
has jurisdiction over all land divisions. 00:08:34
Through Dodge County. 00:08:39
Through the Dodge County Subdivision ordinance. 00:08:41
Staff points out the property is currently zoned within the A2 general Agricultural zoning district. 00:08:43
The property is presently being. 00:08:49
Use for recreational wetland woodland purposes and has no residential structures. 00:08:51
The physical features of this. 00:08:56
Approximate 16.726 acre lot include. 00:08:57
Moderately sloping topography with slopes ranging from zero to 20%. 00:09:02
The general character of the surrounding land use consists of agricultural fields, small Woodlands and supporting single family 00:09:07
residences. 00:09:10
It is not it designated archaeological site. 00:09:15
The property does not include any non conforming structures. 00:09:19
Structures or use. 00:09:23
The property has not been subjected. 00:09:25
To a. 00:09:27
Prior appeal or variance. 00:09:29
We did not. 00:09:32
Received recommendation from the Township. 00:09:33
The purpose of the subdivision ordinance purpose statement The purpose of the subdivision or. 00:09:38
Subdivision provisions of the land use Code is to regulate and control the division of land. 00:09:43
In Dodge County in order to promote public health, safety, morals. 00:09:48
Prosperity, aesthetics, and general welfare of the county. 00:09:53
It is the specific intent of this subdivision provisions. 00:09:57
To regulate the divisions of land. 00:10:01
So as to obtain. 00:10:03
A wise use conservation, protection and proper development of the county's soil, water, wetland. 00:10:04
Woodland and wildlife resources and attain a. 00:10:11
Proper adjustment of land use. 00:10:14
And development to the supporting and sustaining natural resource base. 00:10:17
Staff advisory staff believes that the. 00:10:22
Appellant is requesting an area variance to subsection 7.3, point two of the Dodge County Land Use Code. 00:10:25
Staff points out that the board does not have summary powers to ignore. 00:10:31
Ordinance, provisions or objectives. 00:10:35
The burden also falls upon the appellant to convincingly demonstrate. 00:10:38
To the board, the literal enforcement of the Dodge County. 00:10:41
Land use code regulations would result in unnecessary hardship. 00:10:44
The hardship is due to special conditions. 00:10:49
Unique to the property, and if granted, the variance would not be contrary to the public interest. 00:10:51
It's a staff position. 00:10:56
That the board will be unable to make the findings. 00:10:58
Necessary in order to grant a variance in this case. 00:11:01
And therefore the variance request should be denied. 00:11:04
Thank you, Andy. 00:11:10
Would you, felon, please step forward? 00:11:13
Please state your name for the record. 00:11:35
My name is. 00:11:38
Kayla, not Hoff. 00:11:39
Hey, my name is Burt Bush Key on the actual property owner. She's the applicant. 00:11:41
Thank you. 00:11:46
Is there any information regarding your request that you would like to add to the record at this time? 00:11:47
Yes, there is a. 00:11:53
I wanted to touch on a few different notes. The 1 is a unique property conditions which I think we've already covered. 00:11:56
Having the 165 feet of Rd. frontage. 00:12:04
But I really wanted to touch on today's unnecessary hardship and the no harm to public interest. 00:12:09
For unnecessary hardship. 00:12:14
This land is something that has been in our family for quite some time and it is something that we. 00:12:17
That is very special to our family. 00:12:24
So being able to parcel this off so that we would have the ability to build on it while still maintaining its original use of the 00:12:26
agriculture. 00:12:30
And other 4. 00:12:34
14 acres. 00:12:37
Is something that. 00:12:38
We this would give us an opportunity to build a house for our family. Umm. 00:12:40
We had moved out to California two years ago. I had a job with the the government and moved out there and moving back here hoping 00:12:45
to build realizing that two or three acres is. 00:12:51
150 two $100,000 to be able to build and that's just unreal. 00:12:57
Unrealistic for most people, US included. 00:13:02
And obviously that doesn't even cover the house. So being able to have this opportunity to build at the land would be our only 00:13:05
opportunity to build a home, especially for myself and for my family. 00:13:11
We have, we have two little boys that it's really important for us to be able to raise and we want to. 00:13:18
Raise them in the place where we can have like a homestead, we can live off the land, all the things that it seems like. 00:13:23
And. 00:13:30
Having the respect and responsibility for soil. 00:13:31
Health, all the things that it seems like the county is aligned with. 00:13:34
On top of that, another hard, unnecessary hardship would be not only the inability to for us to afford land to build, but. 00:13:39
Also, we do own a farm that is. 00:13:47
Run under the USDA and the Farm Service Administration. We are registered with both of them. 00:13:50
We've had this farm running for. 00:13:56
6:00-ish years and our only bearer right now is that we are run out of space. We have less than an acre of land right now that we 00:13:59
are using from family. 00:14:03
That is not. 00:14:08
Not working to grow our business anymore, so going out to this land would allow us to expand our business and. 00:14:10
Going back to the financial hardship, what? 00:14:17
Allow us to have more income for for our family to sustain our family as well. 00:14:19
So as. 00:14:30
So I feel for those reasons that would cover the unnecessary hardship for the financial reasons of being able to actually build 00:14:31
and then for our business that we. 00:14:36
Are very passionate about as well. 00:14:41
Going to the no harm to public interest this. 00:14:44
Driveway. 00:14:47
Are the driveway would. 00:14:48
Go in the area where there's slower moving traffic. 00:14:53
It would go off the driveway that's already there. We are not requesting any kind of additional public infrastructure, public road 00:14:56
or services. 00:15:00
It would be no financial or Township hard. 00:15:05
As well as. 00:15:11
No, no harm to the public interest we feel. 00:15:13
Are building a house there a modest home for our family would actually contribute to the. 00:15:16
The by paying taxes contribute to the the town and. 00:15:21
Be able to put more money into the town by paying. 00:15:25
Taxes for the home. 00:15:29
Umm, and. 00:15:32
I think those are the the main. 00:15:38
The main points that. 00:15:41
That I wanted. 00:15:43
That I wanted to. 00:15:46
To touch on. 00:15:48
We believe also that the county's long term planning goals of. 00:15:51
Like Sawyer Health, Responsible Land Stewardship, all aligned with our. 00:15:56
With our farm and the way that we want to continue to run things as we focus on regenerative agriculture. 00:16:00
Having respect for the land and. 00:16:07
Proper use of the land. 00:16:10
So with that. 00:16:12
That. 00:16:14
That is everything. That is everything for me. 00:16:15
Thank you and my task in this project was. 00:16:19
Just to go around. 00:16:23
Basically, the county, I don't think we're setting precedents here in the fact that. 00:16:24
Just in the block. 00:16:28
That that's I was able to come up with. 00:16:30
Two parcels of land. 00:16:33
That have less than 125 feet now. 00:16:35
The one that's glaring is just on the road at. 00:16:39
W 2296 Farmersville Rd. 00:16:45
That property. 00:16:49
It goes just like ours, it goes back, widens out, and it's Tom Orman's property. 00:16:50
And he doesn't have 125 feet. There's one over off a why? 00:16:56
That has 33 feet of frontage. 00:17:00
I own land in. 00:17:03
Town of what? Village of Kikoski, as I was called now. 00:17:05
Where my neighbor's property has 33 front of. 00:17:08
33 feet of frontage on Dunn Rd. 00:17:12
So I don't think we're setting precedents here in any means by granting us this 40 foot. 00:17:15
Parcel. 00:17:21
The one that really glared out to me when I was doing the research is the Clear Creek Cattle Company down in 33 that was just 00:17:22
approved in February of this year and I think by the same board where there. 00:17:27
There's 100 foot of frontage that was approved. 00:17:33
On Hwy. 33. 00:17:37
Which to me? 00:17:39
This coming out on the corner of Farmersville Rd. in Dunn Rd. 00:17:40
Has way more. 00:17:44
Serving a public interest, then. 00:17:46
A parcel of land coming out to the. 00:17:48
That's highway of Hwy. 33. 00:17:50
We all know if Hwy. 33 and accidents. 00:17:52
And there was a parcel created there. 00:17:55
In February. 00:17:57
With less than 125 feet of frontage. 00:17:58
So for those reasons. 00:18:01
I feel that this is. 00:18:03
Common sense. 00:18:04
Adding to the tax base. 00:18:06
And I feel that. 00:18:08
The board should grant us. 00:18:09
This variance. 00:18:11
Any questions? 00:18:14
There anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? 00:18:18
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? 00:18:26
Dollars asked three times. Just so you know. 00:18:36
Is there anyone in? 00:18:39
In the audience that would like to speak in favors request, yes. 00:18:40
State your name please, Emmanuel, not off. 00:18:45
Emmanuel non off. 00:18:48
And you're in favor. 00:18:51
Anyone else that would like to speak in favor of this request? 00:18:57
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in opposition to this requirements request? 00:19:00
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? 00:19:08
Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak in? 00:19:16
Opposition to this variance request. 00:19:18
Is there any staff? Is there any written correspondence? There is one. 00:19:22
Duane Tedding wrote in that he it was in opposition. He said we should stay with subsection 7.3, point two of the Dodge County 00:19:27
Land Use Code. 00:19:31
That was it. 00:19:37
You know, is he a neighbor or something? 00:19:41
And 10095 N Blue Mound Rd. 00:19:45
Fabian neighborhood North. 00:19:49
Does the board have any questions of the appellant? 00:19:55
Yeah, I, I. 00:19:59
You could build one house on this entire parcel as it is now without. 00:20:01
Doing a land division. Am I correct? 00:20:05
Correct, but I couldn't keep. 00:20:08
Possession like you could, you could build a part on there. 00:20:10
And I believe so, yeah, yes, I mean, I, I've expressed my opposition before to. 00:20:13
I'm more against shared driveways than I am against. 00:20:20
You know. 00:20:23
You know you're going to have 125 foot on your new lot. 00:20:25
But I mean the main reason for putting 125 foot. 00:20:28
At the road right away. 00:20:32
Is so you have room enough to cut in the driveway. Obviously you have no intention of cutting in the driveway, so. 00:20:33
I this is kind of a convoluted. 00:20:39
Thank man. Can I ask you a question you. 00:20:42
Talked about. 00:20:45
You wanted to do this to. 00:20:47
Profit your business. I mean, what kind of business are you going to run on this? 00:20:49
This small lot that that's going to be profitable to you or what? 00:20:54
Yeah. So right now we have, we have a business, it's a hunt farm and we've had it since. 00:20:58
2019. 00:21:04
And it is a. 00:21:06
Farm under like the USDA that we that we work with that were registered under. So right now we have less than. 00:21:08
Less than an acre, less than 1/4, yeah, less than 1/4 acre to be able to run our business off of and be having this. I mean even 00:21:15
using like an acre would be. 00:21:20
Four times what we have. 00:21:26
So to give us a lot of opportunity to be able to continue to grow it. 00:21:28
And just I. 00:21:32
I just don't understand the map clearly. 00:21:34
You know, uh. 00:21:37
Your your line. 00:21:37
It's pretty straight there. 00:21:40
Who owns that little? 00:21:42
The I mean. 00:21:44
It's it looks like there's a driveway coming off from the farm across the road there. Yeah, that's what I mean, probably right of 00:21:45
way. 00:21:49
Correct, so the right away line is quite a bit back to the. 00:21:53
East there it shows up on accounting. 00:21:56
Probably just squares off back here, Yeah, because what I was always told is that was intended to be a 90° corner. 00:22:00
When it was. 00:22:07
Plat it, sure. 00:22:09
And and. 00:22:10
At some time they decided to curve it, but the right away still goes straight. So our property abuts the right away. 00:22:12
So technically, you'd actually have. 00:22:18
3. 00:22:21
Different people using that same driveway. 00:22:22
No self and the. 00:22:26
Person net. Well, yeah, because Tedding goes in there. He has to go. 00:22:28
I mean his to the north, but his driveway does cross, I mean. 00:22:32
You don't have actual access. 00:22:37
I mean his. 00:22:40
Your access has to go all the way up to Blue Mountain Rd. there on the. 00:22:41
Right on the flat of the corner. So technically there are three people on that. 00:22:45
I mean. 00:22:49
And it's been a split right here, John. There's one coming off here, yeah, But he's got. Yeah. But that's kind of a unique 00:22:50
situation, that's why. 00:22:54
You know, I go back to. 00:22:59
That's what variances are for, because. 00:23:00
Every square pig does a fitness square hole. You know this property is very unique in the way it's sectioned off. 00:23:03
And it being on the corner like that I think makes it even. 00:23:08
A better candidate? 00:23:13
To split off and put. 00:23:14
Another house vector. 00:23:15
And I know at one time the county had. 00:23:18
A situation where they. 00:23:20
They kind of required. 00:23:23
Depth to width. 00:23:26
I mean this this. 00:23:28
Even now doesn't fit. 00:23:29
That requirement for a land split and I mean now at this, we're going to make it. 00:23:32
You know, make it worse. I mean, there's. 00:23:37
There's giving more parcels with. 00:23:39
The depth with not. 00:23:41
Being required, right? 00:23:42
Not aware of that. Yeah, there wasn't one. Sometimes I think that's why. 00:23:44
You know, it goes back to the east there. There's that little jog in there is. 00:23:48
I think you're something with depth of width. I think at the time, yeah. OK, well, I mean it's, you know, you want your parcel is 00:23:52
too long and narrow as it is now. I mean that's. 00:23:57
I don't know if you created it or whatever, but that's. 00:24:01
You know, but like I said, my I will. 00:24:05
State my opposition to shared driveways. That's just something I. 00:24:07
You know. 00:24:11
That's fine now, and that's exactly why we're doing it, so we don't have a shared driver. She. 00:24:12
She could, you know, there's enough room in there for her to have her own driveway meet at. That's the main reason why we're doing 00:24:17
this. 00:24:20
Is that? 00:24:23
There's enough room there to have two driveways. 00:24:24
Let's just say something happens. 00:24:27
I could still access my parcel, she could still access Airbus. 00:24:29
She might. So how wide is that strip? 00:24:33
That kind of runs. 00:24:36
I should not. I don't. 00:24:39
Your yours is supposed to be 45 foot wide, right? Right and. 00:24:41
What what are you talking about? Just go up by the map, the east West, you know on the on the road frontage that's 125 foot. 00:24:45
Now you're starting versus. 00:24:52
Yeah, what's what's the width? 00:24:54
When you this is 40. Yeah, but what is they? What's the width of that? 00:24:56
You know the only area she'll have to go back to her lot. 00:25:00
Is in there. 00:25:04
Is that? 00:25:05
30 feet wide 25. 00:25:06
I mean. 00:25:09
My would be 40. 00:25:11
It doesn't look like it's that light. I mean I 2 driveways. 00:25:12
I don't know if you could pull a driveway in there. That's another question I have. I mean. 00:25:16
Obviously it works fine now that it's father, daughter, that kind of thing, but they look to be very similar in widths. 00:25:20
His access and her access at that point. 00:25:27
So I bought 40 feet there too. You would think some were pretty close. OK, I mean it's. 00:25:29
And my my main point is to get. 00:25:37
Agriculture equipment back. 00:25:39
To yet farm. 00:25:41
The property I have left and not only that. 00:25:44
The farmer also uses my. 00:25:46
Access to farm. 00:25:49
The farm to the South. 00:25:51
So it doesn't have to go across. 00:25:53
People's lawns. 00:25:54
Actually 2 to the South. 00:25:56
He comes down my right way and goes through my property. 00:25:58
Ticket back there. 00:26:01
Which makes common sense. 00:26:02
I think it all comes down. 00:26:04
To common sense, I think that this is. 00:26:05
A common sense thing being on the corner. 00:26:08
Being a. 00:26:10
Not conforming parcel. 00:26:12
And also the unique characteristics of the property. 00:26:14
Would make it. 00:26:19
An idea candidate for this variance. 00:26:20
So she's building the house, is that correct? 00:26:23
Understand what here it says lot 1 that's what houses 1 you want to build. 00:26:26
But it's part of the old parcel at this time. 00:26:30
Any other questions from the board? 00:26:42
We did. 00:26:46
Approached town and Lamyra. 00:26:47
I know that they did not make a recommendation, but. 00:26:49
They when we came up with this. 00:26:52
125 by 40. 00:26:54
They said yeah, we're all in favor, but I'll never get past the county. 00:26:56
No. And that's very much, you know, when we got denied on. 00:26:59
Minor land division. 00:27:02
But they were all in favor at that time. And which? 00:27:04
Again, common sense why I want to be. 00:27:07
Tunnel Amira needs as much tax revenue as they can get. 00:27:09
Any any house you build nowadays. 00:27:14
What 400,000 minimum? 00:27:17
That's just all the more tax base for. 00:27:19
Lamyra. 00:27:21
No more questions from. 00:27:28
OK. 00:27:30
Would the appellant like to make a final statement for the record? 00:27:32
Yeah, I would. I think just to recap everything that I already said, try not to repeat myself again. 00:27:39
For you guys, but the. 00:27:47
The main point is that this is, this is an opportunity that. 00:27:48
We're just realistically not going to have again, being able to afford land to be able to build. 00:27:53
It's something we've always wanted to do. 00:27:59
I've been with my husband for a very long time and it's something we've always talked about doing and. 00:28:02
This is just finally an opportunity to do so. So it's very. 00:28:06
Obviously very exciting and just aligns with the way. 00:28:10
Again, we want to raise our children. 00:28:13
And. 00:28:17
Yeah, just being granted this opportunity from my family to be able to purchase land at a reasonable amount. 00:28:20
So when we talk about the unnecessary hardship that it seems like it was originally one of the main reasons that they didn't 00:28:27
recommend it applying for. I think the unnecessary hardship goes a little bit more than just not being able to build. It's not 00:28:32
only the affordability. 00:28:37
But it's the opportunities for. 00:28:41
Again, family that we want to have and then. 00:28:44
The opportunity to grow our. 00:28:46
To be able to grow our. 00:28:48
Our business and expanded to maybe it is something that expands for. 00:28:51
For us and our family, a little bit more. 00:28:56
And then just touching on, yeah. 00:29:00
Recap to the no harm to the public interest is. 00:29:02
My dad stated we did already get the. 00:29:05
The go ahead or the? 00:29:07
Informal, I guess approval from when we went to the the. 00:29:09
Board the the town board meetings I. 00:29:12
They were in agreement. 00:29:15
To it. 00:29:17
And I. 00:29:21
I think that's. 00:29:23
That's that's my final statement. 00:29:24
Thank you. 00:29:27
I have one more question for you. 00:29:29
This business, Utah, what is this business? I didn't catch that again. Yeah. So is that Hunt Farm? 00:29:31
Hemp Farm. 00:29:36
Yeah. OK. Thank you. 00:29:38
Yeah. 00:29:40
Please, I'm going to close the. 00:29:43
Public testimony of this hearing at this point in the. 00:29:44
Board will go to the conclusions of the law. 00:29:48
For us, if you would. 00:29:52
His parents. 00:29:54
Request to subsection 7 point. 00:29:56
3.2 of a subdivision. Provisions of the ordinance that refer to the minimum requirement. 00:29:58
Requirements for the new lot. 00:30:07
Yes, yes, yes. 00:30:10
Is there physical limitation that? 00:30:17
Is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying with the subdivision. 00:30:19
Provisions of the ordinance. 00:30:24
Size. 00:30:27
Well, they only have 165 feet or so. They can't. They can't make 220 fives out of 160 out of. 00:30:30
100 and 65170, whatever the numbers. 00:30:35
Yes. 00:30:40
Are are the subdivision provisions of the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome? 00:30:54
In this case and thereby creating. 00:30:59
A hardship. 00:31:01
I would say yes, the dimensions of the you know. 00:31:03
That we've just read off on the last number. 00:31:06
Does the appellant have other options available to complete this project? 00:31:15
In compliance with. 00:31:19
The ordinance. 00:31:20
Yes. 00:31:21
If they would purchase the entire parcel. 00:31:22
Not if they want to build a house, you know. 00:31:27
Right. No, they could build a house. 00:31:28
They purchased the whole parcel. They can build one house there. 00:31:30
Without anything. 00:31:33
What hardship exists if the variance is denied? 00:31:50
I'm going to be able to create a lot for the house. 00:31:55
A separate lot for the host. They won't be able to divide subdivide it. 00:31:58
Is this? 00:32:20
Is this project harmful in any way to the public's interest? 00:32:21
No, I don't think so. 00:32:26
Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision on this request? 00:32:30
Yes, we have sufficient information. 00:32:36
We got sufficient information. 00:32:40
Does the board believe that the appellant's variance request to. 00:32:45
The subdivision. 00:32:48
Provisions of the ordinance meets the criteria that is necessary in order to grant the variance requests. 00:32:50
I would say yes, thank you. 00:33:00
Let me see. 00:33:06
If the board can make the findings necessary in order to grant the variance request in this case. 00:33:14
Any conditions of approval necessary in this case to mitigate any potential? 00:33:19
Adverse impacts that result. 00:33:24
From this proposed development project. 00:33:27
No. 00:33:35
So it's. 00:33:42
Up the motion. 00:33:44
OK, very variance of provision provisions. 00:33:47
I'm looking for a motion to either approve or deny. 00:33:50
The variance to the lot with. 00:33:54
I'll make a motion to approve it. 00:34:00
I hear a second. 00:34:04
2nd. 00:34:08
Motion is made and 2nd to approve right? 00:34:12
Great, approve any discussion. 00:34:16
If not, I'll call the vote Rodney. 00:34:22
Yes. 00:34:24
Russell yes. 00:34:26
Mark isn't absent. 00:34:28
John. 00:34:31
No. 00:34:31
And myself, I will go. 00:34:34
Yes. 00:34:35
So the vote is. 00:34:38
3:00 to 1:00. 00:34:40
In favor of granting the. 00:34:42
Hearings to the. 00:34:44
So the based on the above findings, the conclusion of the law and the record of matter. 00:34:47
The board granted the variance as proposed. 00:34:52
And the Land Use Administrator is directed to issue a land use permit incorporating the decision of the board. 00:34:55
You wouldn't be granting a land use. 00:35:03
In this case, the land division. They got land division asked to be forwarded to the. 00:35:07
Got a committee first before. 00:35:13
So. 00:35:15
Yeah, that's my question. 00:35:16
So we have to reapply for the land use permit. 00:35:17
The land division. When we deny something like this and the variance gets granted, we will circle back with that same application 00:35:20
and and and approve it moving forward. 00:35:25
So approval from you. 00:35:29
In the future. 00:35:31
What's that? 00:35:32
The land division process, you'll have the certified survey map and all that stuff. You have to go through our office, circle back 00:35:36
with Gregor. You've been working with him so. 00:35:41
So for the next step is CSM. 00:35:45
Just yet. Circle back with Gregor and see where where you're at. 00:35:48
Well, thank you. 00:35:54
I appreciate the fact that. 00:35:56
You guys came out to the site and looked at it. 00:35:59
I think that that's key. 00:36:01
To any governmental I don't care what it is. 00:36:02
You can look at a map all day, but when you come out to the site to look at that. 00:36:06
Shows you care. 00:36:10
Thank you. Yes, thank you. Have a good thank you. 00:36:11
In other other business, we don't have any petitions for December, but we are looking at a review of. 00:36:20
Passed approved variances for possible ordinance changes. 00:36:27
And then review of the Board of adjustment responsibilities and procedures. So we'll just do that in the in the business meeting. 00:36:31
9930 on the Yep Yep. 00:36:39
9:30 on the 4th. 00:36:43
Yep, Yep, it's early again in the in the month the 4th. 00:36:45
Yep. Yeah, the daytime meeting on. Yep. 00:36:49
No, on the agenda, your Board of adjustment audit findings, you don't have those yet or? 00:36:53
What's that? 00:36:58
On this agenda I have it says Board of Adjustment Audit findings. 00:36:59
There's another item for tonight. 00:37:03
I do not know. 00:37:06
No. 00:37:07
And I guess the motion would be in order to adjourn. 00:37:10
So move. 00:37:12
Second, all in favor say aye. 00:37:13
Meetings adjourned. 00:37:17
You know, get you to Thoresa. 00:37:18
Got an airplane for me please. Time Machine. 00:37:20
Don't hit a deer. 00:37:23
Yeah, and we are. 00:37:25