Board of Adjustment Meeting
Transcript
| Meeting of the Dodge County Board of Adjustment is hereby called to order. | 00:00:03 | |
| Roll call Mark Osbor. | 00:00:06 | |
| Here here. | 00:00:08 | |
| Russell Cuties here. Madden adjustment here. | 00:00:10 | |
| Itself here very Bishop and Brad pupils excused. | 00:00:13 | |
| A quorum is present. | 00:00:18 | |
| As many county board members here that are not on the committee. | 00:00:20 | |
| I don't see any OK. | 00:00:24 | |
| The staff confirmed compliance with the open meeting law and public hearing. | 00:00:30 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 00:00:33 | |
| Any changes to the agenda? | 00:00:35 | |
| No. | 00:00:38 | |
| OK, we have two sets of minutes to approve. | 00:00:40 | |
| Review the minutes from June 19th. What's your. | 00:00:42 | |
| 3rd on the June 19th ones. | 00:00:46 | |
| Also moved to approve June 19th. I'll second. | 00:00:48 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:00:51 | |
| Hearing all in favor say aye. | 00:00:53 | |
| Aye, opposed. Motion carried. | 00:00:55 | |
| And we have the minutes from July 10th. | 00:00:57 | |
| I'll move to approve. | 00:01:01 | |
| 2nd. | 00:01:03 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:01:05 | |
| Hearing none all in favor say aye. | 00:01:08 | |
| Aye, opposed motion is carried. Minutes approach. | 00:01:10 | |
| The staff please read the hearing procedure for tonight's hearings. | 00:01:14 | |
| Certainly we are meeting today to hear the request for modification of the Dodge County land use code. We have a series of two | 00:01:18 | |
| public hearings tonight. | 00:01:22 | |
| And the procedure for these. | 00:01:26 | |
| Hearings will be as follows. The chairman of the. | 00:01:27 | |
| Port of Adjustment will read the public hearing notice, after which a staff member in the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks | 00:01:30 | |
| Department will read a report that has been prepared by. | 00:01:35 | |
| The county staff regarding the request. | 00:01:39 | |
| Before the board following the staff report. | 00:01:41 | |
| The appellant or their agent will be asked to come before the board. | 00:01:44 | |
| The appellant will be asked to state their name. | 00:01:48 | |
| For the record, and they may present their case to the Board. | 00:01:51 | |
| Or add any additional information. | 00:01:54 | |
| To the record. | 00:01:56 | |
| Those in attendance wishing to speak in favor or opposition. | 00:01:58 | |
| Can come before the board and speak. | 00:02:01 | |
| If you wish to speak, you will be. | 00:02:03 | |
| Asked to step up to the microphone. | 00:02:05 | |
| Which is located in the center of the room and states your name and address for the record and to state your position regarding | 00:02:07 | |
| the request before the board. | 00:02:11 | |
| Please address your comments and questions to the board and not to the. | 00:02:16 | |
| You only only be allowed to speak once, so please be prepared to present. | 00:02:20 | |
| All of your concerns and questions to the board when you speak. | 00:02:25 | |
| All those intendants. | 00:02:29 | |
| After those. | 00:02:31 | |
| In attendance have spoken, written. | 00:02:32 | |
| Correspondence has been received by the Board. | 00:02:36 | |
| Or, which has been collected by the board during the on site visits will then be read into the record. | 00:02:39 | |
| The board will have an opportunity to ask the appellant any questions. | 00:02:44 | |
| The following the Board's questions, the appellant will be allowed to give a final statement for the record. | 00:02:48 | |
| After receiving all of the testimony, the board will. | 00:02:53 | |
| Then deliberate, it will make a decision to grant. | 00:02:56 | |
| Granted part or deny the variance request. | 00:03:00 | |
| And if approved. | 00:03:03 | |
| They may place conditions on the approval. | 00:03:04 | |
| If they feel it necessary to address or mitigate any potential adverse impacts. | 00:03:07 | |
| The proposal may have on the adjacent properties. | 00:03:12 | |
| Or the community. If the variance is approved, staff will be directed to issue a land use permit incorporating. | 00:03:15 | |
| Those conditions approved by the Board. Any person or persons agreed by any decision of the Board. | 00:03:22 | |
| Adjustment may present. | 00:03:28 | |
| To the court of record. | 00:03:30 | |
| A petition duly verified setting forth. | 00:03:32 | |
| That such decision is illegal and specifying the grounds. | 00:03:35 | |
| Of the illegality. Such petitions shall be presented to the Circuit Court. | 00:03:39 | |
| In this county within 30 days after the filing of the decision. | 00:03:43 | |
| In the office of the Board of Adjustment, the county assumes no liability. | 00:03:48 | |
| For and makes no warranty. | 00:03:52 | |
| As to the reliance on any decision if construction is commenced. | 00:03:54 | |
| Prior to the expiration date. | 00:03:58 | |
| Of this 30 day period. | 00:03:59 | |
| If during this meeting, procedural questions. | 00:04:02 | |
| Or other points of order arise. | 00:04:04 | |
| The final decision. | 00:04:06 | |
| Of this board may be postponed until more information is gathered. | 00:04:08 | |
| Considered and properly acted upon. | 00:04:12 | |
| Notice here by giving that a public hearing will be held by the Dodge County Board of Adjustment. | 00:04:26 | |
| On Thursday, July 17th at 2025. | 00:04:31 | |
| At 7:00 PM or shortly thereafter. | 00:04:34 | |
| On the first floor of the Dodge County Administration Building. | 00:04:37 | |
| Tuna, Wisconsin. On the Appeal of Rodney and Rosalind Weiss. | 00:04:40 | |
| Living Trust dated October 12/20/22. | 00:04:44 | |
| For variance to the terms of the ordinary high watermark, set back and. | 00:04:47 | |
| The impervious service provisions of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:04:52 | |
| To allow a debtor would not be those standards. | 00:04:56 | |
| These requests are requests to variance to subsection 6.2 and 9.4. | 00:05:00 | |
| Of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:05:06 | |
| Property lock location lot to CSM 6465 being not. | 00:05:09 | |
| 47 Howards first addition to Lake Grove and. | 00:05:15 | |
| Part of GL 2 NE quarter SE quarter section 21. | 00:05:18 | |
| Town of Fox. | 00:05:23 | |
| Dodge County, Wisconsin, the site address being. | 00:05:26 | |
| In Excuse me. | 00:05:29 | |
| Site address being in. | 00:05:34 | |
| 10634 Howard Drive. | 00:05:36 | |
| A copy the proposed petition is available for review. | 00:05:40 | |
| In the Land, County, Land Resource and Parks Department between the hours of. | 00:05:43 | |
| 8:00 AM and 4:30 PM, Monday through Friday. | 00:05:47 | |
| Whole person's interests are invited to attend and be heard. | 00:05:51 | |
| Written comments may be submitted to the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department. | 00:05:54 | |
| At 127 E Oak St. Juneau, WI or by e-mail no later than July 16th, 2025. | 00:05:59 | |
| County Board of Adjustment by William House, chairman. | 00:06:06 | |
| Anyway, please read the staff report. Certainly. | 00:06:10 | |
| County jurisdiction. | 00:06:13 | |
| County South jurisdiction over This site is the Town of Fox Lake Falls under the county's Land Use code. | 00:06:15 | |
| And shoreline protection ordinance. | 00:06:20 | |
| Subsection 14.7. | 00:06:22 | |
| Parent one through 14. | 00:06:25 | |
| .7 parents six of the Dodge County Charlotte protection. | 00:06:27 | |
| Ordinance list. Procedural matters. | 00:06:30 | |
| And the approval criteria for the variance process. The board shall hold a public hearing on each variance. | 00:06:33 | |
| Application. | 00:06:38 | |
| Following the Public Hearing Act to approve approve with conditions. | 00:06:39 | |
| Or deny the variance based upon the criteria of section 14.7. Parents 6. | 00:06:43 | |
| The appellant request. | 00:06:49 | |
| Application for a variance requests. | 00:06:51 | |
| Were submitted. | 00:06:54 | |
| By the applicant on June 11th, 2025. | 00:06:55 | |
| For requests of the terms of the ordinary high watermark. | 00:06:58 | |
| Set back and the impervious surface provisions of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection ordinance the. | 00:07:01 | |
| To allow a deck that is 14 feet. | 00:07:06 | |
| By 19.5 feet. | 00:07:09 | |
| That does not meet those standards. As proposed, the project will be 40.1 feet from the ordinary high watermark of Fox Lake. | 00:07:11 | |
| Or 17.85 feet within the required set back. | 00:07:19 | |
| Thus prohibited by the code. | 00:07:22 | |
| Also proposed. | 00:07:25 | |
| Also, as proposed, the impervious surface. | 00:07:26 | |
| Coverage will increase from 46.75. | 00:07:29 | |
| Percent to 49.81%. | 00:07:32 | |
| Or 3.06. | 00:07:35 | |
| Percent greater than allowed. | 00:07:37 | |
| These are requests for variances to subsections 6.2 and 9.4 of the Dodge County Store and Protection Ordinance. | 00:07:39 | |
| Features The county has jurisdiction over the. | 00:07:47 | |
| As the site is located within 1000 feet of the ordinary high watermark of a navigable Wat. | 00:07:52 | |
| Waterway, Fox Lake. | 00:07:58 | |
| The property is currently. | 00:08:00 | |
| Being used for residential use. | 00:08:02 | |
| The physical features of this. | 00:08:04 | |
| 2.05 acre. | 00:08:06 | |
| Lot includes sloping topography with slopes ranging from. | 00:08:07 | |
| Zero to 25%. The parcel contains the residents and associated accessory structures. | 00:08:11 | |
| The current impervious surface. | 00:08:17 | |
| Surfaces on this property. | 00:08:19 | |
| Our 4175 square feet. | 00:08:21 | |
| Or 46.75%. | 00:08:24 | |
| The proposed impervious surfaces on this property. | 00:08:27 | |
| Our 4000. | 00:08:30 | |
| 448 square feet or 49.81%. | 00:08:32 | |
| This property is. | 00:08:36 | |
| Considered to be a highly developed shoreline. | 00:08:38 | |
| Under section 9.4. | 00:08:40 | |
| Of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:08:43 | |
| And is permitted up to 30% impervious surfaces without mitigation and up to 40% with mitigation per subsection 9.5 parent two of | 00:08:46 | |
| the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:08:52 | |
| The general character of the surrounding land. | 00:08:58 | |
| Use consists of single family residences to the North and South, while an agricultural field is. | 00:09:01 | |
| Located West of Howard at Howard Drive. | 00:09:07 | |
| Per Section 16.2 of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance, a deck is defined as a structure. | 00:09:10 | |
| The set back average for a primary structure per Section 6.2 of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:09:18 | |
| Is 57.95 feet from the ordinary high watermark. | 00:09:26 | |
| The residents on this property is currently 54.1%. | 00:09:30 | |
| Feet from the ordinary high watermark. | 00:09:35 | |
| On April 16th. | 00:09:38 | |
| 2025 An application for a county land use permit. | 00:09:40 | |
| Was made by the appellant. | 00:09:44 | |
| To construct a deck. | 00:09:46 | |
| On the east side of the residence. | 00:09:47 | |
| The permit was withheld on April 24th. | 00:09:49 | |
| 2025 as no impervious surface worksheet was. | 00:09:52 | |
| Provided. | 00:09:55 | |
| An on site inspection was conducted on May 22nd, 2025. | 00:09:56 | |
| Following further review and additional correspondence between staff and the applicant. | 00:10:01 | |
| The land use permit was denied on June 16th, 2025. | 00:10:06 | |
| A variance application was submitted. | 00:10:10 | |
| To this department prior to the permit denial. | 00:10:12 | |
| On June 11th, 2025. | 00:10:15 | |
| Applicable ordinance provisions in this case. | 00:10:19 | |
| Section 6.1 of the Shorelands shoreline set back within. | 00:10:22 | |
| Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance, unless exempt, a set back of 75 feet from the ordinary high watermark of any | 00:10:26 | |
| navigable waters. | 00:10:31 | |
| To the nearest part of the. | 00:10:35 | |
| A building. | 00:10:37 | |
| Or structure shall be required. | 00:10:38 | |
| For all buildings and structures. | 00:10:40 | |
| Section 6.2 Reduced principal size structure set back. | 00:10:42 | |
| Within Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:10:47 | |
| This provision allows for an average of the two neighboring principal structures to be utilized to provide a reduced. | 00:10:50 | |
| Set back to the ordinary high watermark. | 00:10:56 | |
| Subsections 9.5, parent 2. | 00:10:59 | |
| Maximum impervious surfaces for highly developed shorelines. | 00:11:03 | |
| Within the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance, this provision allows for a property to reach up to 30% without mitigation | 00:11:06 | |
| and up to 40% with mitigation. | 00:11:11 | |
| Section 9.6. | 00:11:18 | |
| Treated impervious surfaces. | 00:11:20 | |
| Within the Dodge County Shoreland protection ordinance, this provision. | 00:11:22 | |
| States that the impervious surfaces. | 00:11:25 | |
| That can be documented to show that they are meeting. | 00:11:28 | |
| Any of the requirements under this section shall be excluded. | 00:11:31 | |
| From the impervious surface calculations. | 00:11:35 | |
| Section 9.7. Existing impervious services. | 00:11:38 | |
| Within the Dodge County Shoreline protection Ordinance, this provision allows. | 00:11:42 | |
| For the relocation or modification of an existing impervious surfaces. | 00:11:45 | |
| With similar or different impervious surfaces. | 00:11:50 | |
| Provided the relocation or modification does not result in an increase. | 00:11:53 | |
| Of the. | 00:11:57 | |
| Impervious surface calculations. | 00:11:58 | |
| This permit was denied by the county land use. | 00:12:00 | |
| Administrator for the following reasons. | 00:12:03 | |
| As proposed, the deck would be. | 00:12:09 | |
| Located 40.1 feet from the ordinary high watermark of Fox Lake or 17.85 feet within the required set back and thus prohibited by. | 00:12:11 | |
| Section 6.1 and 6.2 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:12:19 | |
| Additionally, the. | 00:12:24 | |
| Current impervious services on this property are. | 00:12:25 | |
| 4175 square feet or. | 00:12:28 | |
| 46.75. | 00:12:31 | |
| Percent were. | 00:12:33 | |
| While the proposed impervious. | 00:12:35 | |
| On this property are 40. | 00:12:37 | |
| 4448 square feet or 49.81%. | 00:12:39 | |
| This property is considered to be a highly developed shoreline. | 00:12:44 | |
| Section 9.4 of the Dodge County Charlotte Protection ordinance. | 00:12:47 | |
| And isn't permitted up to 30% impervious surfaces without mitigation and up to 40. | 00:12:51 | |
| Percent. | 00:12:57 | |
| With mitigation per subsection 9.5. | 00:12:58 | |
| Parent two of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:13:02 | |
| According to subsection. | 00:13:07 | |
| 9.5 point 2 the maximum allowed impervious surfaces. | 00:13:08 | |
| For this lot. | 00:13:12 | |
| With mitigation, our 40%. | 00:13:13 | |
| Currently the a lot exceeds the permissible impervious surfaces for a highly developed shoreline. | 00:13:15 | |
| Under Section 9.7, the property owner may maintain. | 00:13:22 | |
| This increased impervious surfaces. | 00:13:26 | |
| Provided is not fully. | 00:13:29 | |
| Further expanded. | 00:13:30 | |
| However, the proposed increase exceeds both the impervious surfaces limits set by subsection 9.5, parent 2 and the standards. | 00:13:32 | |
| In 9.7 of the Dodge County shoreland. | 00:13:42 | |
| Protection ordinance making it prohibited. | 00:13:44 | |
| This section of the ordinance main. | 00:13:47 | |
| Be met by utilizing treated impervious surfaces. | 00:13:50 | |
| Requirement listed under section 9.6. | 00:13:54 | |
| Or by relocation of the existing impervious surfaces. | 00:13:57 | |
| Under 9.7 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:14:00 | |
| The appellate is requesting an area variance to section 6.1. | 00:14:04 | |
| And Section 9.4 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:14:08 | |
| With no response from the town. | 00:14:13 | |
| Purpose statement the purpose of the water set back provisions of the. | 00:14:16 | |
| Code require. | 00:14:20 | |
| Is to require uniform set back distance from the water. | 00:14:22 | |
| To preserve public interest in shorelines. | 00:14:25 | |
| Navigable waterways of the state. | 00:14:27 | |
| Every property owner that has frontage on a body of water is required to comply with this uniform water set back requirement. | 00:14:29 | |
| In this case, the deck is located within the set back. | 00:14:36 | |
| And there. | 00:14:40 | |
| Prohibited by the code. | 00:14:41 | |
| The purpose of the impervious services. | 00:14:43 | |
| Of the shoreland. | 00:14:46 | |
| Ordinance is to control runoff, which can. | 00:14:48 | |
| Carries pollutants to the water of the state and to protect the navigability of water. | 00:14:50 | |
| Navigable waters and the public's right to their. | 00:14:56 | |
| They're in of degree. | 00:14:59 | |
| Degradation. | 00:15:01 | |
| And deterioration. | 00:15:03 | |
| The final impervious services would be 4448 square feet. | 00:15:06 | |
| Or 270? | 00:15:10 | |
| Three square feet above the required maximum. | 00:15:11 | |
| Impervious surfaces for this lot and thus prohibited by the code. | 00:15:14 | |
| Staff Advisory staff points out that the board does not have summary powers to ignore the ordinance. | 00:15:18 | |
| Provisions or objectives? The burden also falls on the appellant to convincingly demonstrate. | 00:15:23 | |
| The board, the little literal enforcement. | 00:15:29 | |
| Of the. | 00:15:31 | |
| Shoreline Ordinance. | 00:15:33 | |
| Certainly, protection ordinance regulations would result in an unnecessary hardship. | 00:15:34 | |
| And the hardship is due to the special conditions unique to the property and if granted. | 00:15:39 | |
| The variance would not. | 00:15:44 | |
| Be contrary to the public interest. | 00:15:45 | |
| Is important to note that the impervious service section of the 9th. | 00:15:47 | |
| Section of the land use. | 00:15:51 | |
| Permit may. | 00:15:53 | |
| Be met by utilizing treated impervious surfaces requirements. | 00:15:54 | |
| Listed under section 9.6. | 00:15:58 | |
| Or by relocation of the existing purpose. | 00:16:00 | |
| Impervious surfaces. | 00:16:03 | |
| Under Section 9.7 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:16:04 | |
| Examples of these could be. | 00:16:08 | |
| Could include, but are not limited to replacement of impervious surfaces with impermeable. | 00:16:10 | |
| With permeable pavers, removal of concrete. | 00:16:15 | |
| Such as sidewalks or a portion of the driveway. | 00:16:18 | |
| Or installing an. | 00:16:21 | |
| Tracian Basin. | 00:16:22 | |
| Or installing a rain garden. | 00:16:24 | |
| It's a staff's position that the board will be unable to make the findings. | 00:16:26 | |
| Necessary. | 00:16:30 | |
| In order to grant a variance in this case, therefore, the variance request should be denied. | 00:16:31 | |
| Thank you, Andy. | 00:16:39 | |
| Will the appellant please step forward? | 00:16:42 | |
| Sneak your name for your record, please. Lou Davis. | 00:16:54 | |
| Is there any information regarding your request that you would like to add to the record at this time? | 00:16:59 | |
| Well, I guess one thing is I'm neighbor and also the contractor. I own the house that's next to it at 10638. | 00:17:05 | |
| Far as. | 00:17:15 | |
| The process I've been through the process. | 00:17:16 | |
| Knowing that. | 00:17:19 | |
| I'm the neighbor next door and dealt with the. | 00:17:19 | |
| The land and all the rules and regulations that. | 00:17:22 | |
| Come along with living on the lake. | 00:17:25 | |
| One of the questions is or a comment is is that. | 00:17:28 | |
| Through this process I know that. | 00:17:32 | |
| They take the average of the two. | 00:17:35 | |
| You know beside it, but as you look at that deal and I know unfortunately. | 00:17:38 | |
| He's not. He's not. | 00:17:41 | |
| If he was moved down one house, he would be better off on their. | 00:17:43 | |
| That was granted to do those retaining walls in that land. Where this deck is going is treated as a patio right now primarily. | 00:17:47 | |
| There on that top of that retaining wall. So that was the original. | 00:17:57 | |
| Request was to be able to. | 00:18:00 | |
| Put some kind of structure or either a imperial pavers. | 00:18:02 | |
| In that area so that they could have it more than rock. | 00:18:08 | |
| On there if a deck was not permitted. | 00:18:11 | |
| So. | 00:18:13 | |
| Thank you. | 00:18:17 | |
| There anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor as a variance request before the board. | 00:18:20 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of the variance request before the board? | 00:18:26 | |
| I'm in favor. | 00:18:32 | |
| And I'm a neighbor. | 00:18:33 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? | 00:18:38 | |
| Past three times it's. | 00:18:43 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to the variance request before the board? | 00:18:47 | |
| Anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? | 00:18:54 | |
| Is anyone in the audience that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request before the war? | 00:19:01 | |
| Lord, do you have any questions of? | 00:19:08 | |
| Anyone. | 00:19:18 | |
| You want to read the. | 00:19:27 | |
| Read the DNR thing into the record. Will do. | 00:19:29 | |
| Certainly, please. | 00:19:32 | |
| Dear board members, the Department of Natural Resources has received. | 00:19:35 | |
| The notice of this for a July 17, 2025 public hearing. | 00:19:39 | |
| Concerning the appeal of Rodney and Rosalind Weiss, Living Trust. | 00:19:43 | |
| Dated October 12/20/22. | 00:19:47 | |
| For variances to the terms of the ordinary high watermark, set back. | 00:19:51 | |
| Any pervious surfaces of Dodge County shoreline protection ordinance. | 00:19:55 | |
| To allow a deck. | 00:19:59 | |
| That would be. | 00:20:00 | |
| Would not meet those standards. | 00:20:01 | |
| These are requests of variances 6.2. | 00:20:03 | |
| And 9.4 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:20:06 | |
| Property location. | 00:20:10 | |
| To CSM 6465. | 00:20:12 | |
| Being Lot 47 of Howard's. | 00:20:16 | |
| First addition to Lake. | 00:20:18 | |
| Grove and part of Government Lot 2. | 00:20:21 | |
| Northeast quarter of Southeast quarter, Section 21. | 00:20:24 | |
| Town 13th. | 00:20:27 | |
| Range 13, Town of Fox Lake. | 00:20:29 | |
| Dodge County, Wisconsin, site address being N 106. | 00:20:31 | |
| 3/4. | 00:20:36 | |
| Howard Drive the department. | 00:20:37 | |
| Is writing in response to the. | 00:20:39 | |
| County Board of Adjustments request. | 00:20:41 | |
| For an opinion from the department. | 00:20:44 | |
| Perth chapter 59.692, Parent 4. | 00:20:47 | |
| Parent B Wisconsin State statutes is allowed. | 00:20:51 | |
| By law, this letter is based. | 00:20:54 | |
| And the information provided. | 00:20:56 | |
| In the hearing notice and application submitted. | 00:20:57 | |
| Please have this rhetoric letter read. | 00:21:00 | |
| Letter delivered and read before the BOA. | 00:21:04 | |
| Per the information provided by the applicant, the department does not believe. | 00:21:08 | |
| The applicant can demonstrate meeting. | 00:21:12 | |
| The three statutory criteria. | 00:21:15 | |
| For granting a variance. | 00:21:17 | |
| The Snyder Walk. | 00:21:19 | |
| Shaw County Zoning Board of adjustment decision. | 00:21:20 | |
| Made it clear a circumstance or desire. | 00:21:24 | |
| Of the applicant is not a factor to be considered when deciding variances. | 00:21:27 | |
| Further, the Wisconsin. | 00:21:32 | |
| State. | 00:21:34 | |
| Versus Winnebago County decision. | 00:21:36 | |
| Established that economic loss or financial hardship. | 00:21:39 | |
| Do not justify A variance as the board reviews. | 00:21:42 | |
| These variance requests please keep in mind. | 00:21:46 | |
| The applicant has a burden of proving. | 00:21:48 | |
| That their requests meet all the statutory requirements for the granting. | 00:21:51 | |
| Of a variance of each variance request. | 00:21:55 | |
| That is, the applicant must prove that they will suffer unnecessary. | 00:21:57 | |
| That's their hardship if the provisions of the county. | 00:22:02 | |
| Shoreline ordinance are literally in force. | 00:22:05 | |
| Wisconsin Supreme Court has made it clear that the proof. | 00:22:08 | |
| Unnecessary hardship by itself. | 00:22:12 | |
| Does not entitle an applicant. | 00:22:14 | |
| To a variance. | 00:22:16 | |
| All three statutory variance criteria must be satisfied. | 00:22:18 | |
| In order to grant. | 00:22:22 | |
| Of each variance. | 00:22:23 | |
| It may be possible that an applicant will provide additional evidence at the hearing which may change the. | 00:22:25 | |
| Conclusions listed below. | 00:22:31 | |
| Unique physical limitations. | 00:22:33 | |
| The applicant must demonstrate that a unique physical limitation. | 00:22:35 | |
| Wetlands, steep slope streams, rock, oak croppings. | 00:22:39 | |
| Or special conditions of the property. | 00:22:42 | |
| That prevent compliance with the order ordinance, regulations, the physical. | 00:22:45 | |
| Limitations must be unique to the property. | 00:22:50 | |
| In question and not generally shared. | 00:22:53 | |
| By other properties in the area. | 00:22:55 | |
| After review of the Dodge County air photos and contours, appears that this lot does not meet. | 00:22:58 | |
| Does not, does not contain any. | 00:23:04 | |
| Unique limitations. | 00:23:06 | |
| Physical limitations and is very similar. | 00:23:08 | |
| The adjacent properties. | 00:23:10 | |
| No harm to public interest. The applicant must demonstrate that the variance will not result in harm or be contrary to the public | 00:23:13 | |
| interests. | 00:23:17 | |
| The board must consider the impact. | 00:23:21 | |
| Of the proposed. | 00:23:23 | |
| Project as well as cumulative impacts of similar projects. | 00:23:25 | |
| On the interests of the neighbors, the community and the general public. | 00:23:28 | |
| These interests are. | 00:23:32 | |
| Listed in the purpose statement. | 00:23:34 | |
| Of the ordinance and. | 00:23:36 | |
| For shoreland zoning include protection of the public health. | 00:23:37 | |
| Safety and welfare maintenance of clean water. | 00:23:41 | |
| Protection of Fish and Wildlife habitat. | 00:23:43 | |
| And preservation of natural. | 00:23:46 | |
| And scenic beauty. | 00:23:48 | |
| Scientific studies have shown when the projects. | 00:23:50 | |
| Are constructed within the water set back. | 00:23:53 | |
| There can be a environmental concern, such as change in fish species from. | 00:23:57 | |
| Game. Fish to rough fish. Loss of wildlife habitat. | 00:24:02 | |
| More runoff entering the lake without filtering. | 00:24:06 | |
| Loss of natural scenic beauty, etc. | 00:24:09 | |
| Cumulative impacts. | 00:24:12 | |
| Of the repeated projects. | 00:24:13 | |
| So close to the water bodies can multiply the impacts of the loss of habitat. | 00:24:15 | |
| This property contains multiple retaining walls, 2 sets of stairs. | 00:24:20 | |
| In a boathouse with a patio, all located within the shoreland set back. | 00:24:24 | |
| The applicant has not provided any. | 00:24:29 | |
| Providing information describing. | 00:24:31 | |
| No harm to the public interest. | 00:24:33 | |
| Unnecessary hardship. The applicant must demonstrate that if the. | 00:24:35 | |
| Variance is not granted. An unnecessary hardship exists. | 00:24:39 | |
| The applicant may not complain. | 00:24:42 | |
| Claim unnecessary hardship because of. | 00:24:44 | |
| Conditions. | 00:24:47 | |
| Which are self-imposed or created by a prior owner. | 00:24:48 | |
| For example, building a home in compliance. | 00:24:51 | |
| And then subsequently. | 00:24:54 | |
| Constructing a deck without a permit. | 00:24:56 | |
| Courts have determined that economic or. | 00:24:59 | |
| Financial hardship does not justify. | 00:25:02 | |
| When determining whether an unnecessary hardship exists, the board. | 00:25:04 | |
| Let's consider the property as a whole. | 00:25:08 | |
| Rather than just a portion of the. | 00:25:11 | |
| Parcel the denial of the deck is not. | 00:25:12 | |
| And unnecessarily. | 00:25:16 | |
| Burdensome. There is an existing patio located on top of the boathouse. | 00:25:18 | |
| Providing opportunity to enjoy the outdoors. | 00:25:22 | |
| There are options available to meet the impervious surface. | 00:25:25 | |
| Requirements such as utilizing stormwater control measures or removing. | 00:25:29 | |
| Some of the existing pervious surfaces. | 00:25:33 | |
| Please note that these comments are in regards to the shoreland zoning. | 00:25:36 | |
| Regulations only and do not reflect applicable erosion control. | 00:25:40 | |
| Waterway permitting, floodplain zoning or other department regulations. | 00:25:44 | |
| Is the responsibility of the Board of Adjustment to assure? | 00:25:48 | |
| That the statutory standards for the granting of a. | 00:25:51 | |
| A variance are met. | 00:25:55 | |
| The standards help to ensure the protection of the public interest. | 00:25:56 | |
| Including the preservation of. | 00:26:00 | |
| Water quality and fish wildlife. | 00:26:02 | |
| Habitat along lakes and rivers. Wisconsin navigable. | 00:26:04 | |
| Waterways are held in trust. | 00:26:08 | |
| For all people to enjoy the shoreland. | 00:26:10 | |
| Set back is important to protect the water quality. | 00:26:12 | |
| Natural scenic beauty and the fish. | 00:26:15 | |
| And wildlife habitat. | 00:26:17 | |
| Wisconsin's waterways. | 00:26:19 | |
| The department appreciates her. | 00:26:21 | |
| Commitment to Dodge County's water resources and protection of public interest. | 00:26:23 | |
| For future generations, sincerely. | 00:26:28 | |
| Sue Vander Langenberg. | 00:26:30 | |
| Shoreline Zoning Program coordinator. | 00:26:33 | |
| Any other correspondence, Andy? | 00:26:38 | |
| No. | 00:26:40 | |
| Does the board have any questions at this point after that? | 00:26:42 | |
| Would the appeal? Would like to make a final statement on this for the record. | 00:26:48 | |
| Well, yes, for the record, it sounds like it's not going to pass. | 00:26:53 | |
| The question is now before you do if it if you do not pass it. | 00:26:56 | |
| I'm not sure if we can discuss it after you do or you don't. | 00:27:01 | |
| Of what the abilities that they can because it's already used as a patio and if you put permeable pavers there is that acceptable? | 00:27:05 | |
| If you don't pass it as a deck, that would be a question for staff tomorrow. | 00:27:14 | |
| OK, I thought Bryce said. I could ask that here. I thought so. | 00:27:19 | |
| I would ask Price tomorrow. | 00:27:22 | |
| Then you have to go through the whole process again. | 00:27:24 | |
| Well, this permit has already been denied, so they deny the. | 00:27:28 | |
| The variance. | 00:27:32 | |
| That one. | 00:27:33 | |
| Is is finished and we'd have to start anew. | 00:27:34 | |
| OK, then I have nothing else. | 00:27:37 | |
| Thank you. | 00:27:45 | |
| Well, the public testimony. | 00:27:49 | |
| Of the hearing is now completed, I closed the hearing part. | 00:27:51 | |
| The board will now deliberate on the matter. | 00:27:53 | |
| Before the. | 00:27:56 | |
| Before them. | 00:27:56 | |
| Or the conclusions of the law. | 00:27:58 | |
| Presented. | 00:28:00 | |
| Based on the facts presented in the application and at the public hearing, the Board concludes that. | 00:28:02 | |
| The appellants request to section 9.4 of the County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:28:09 | |
| Which refers the maximum impervious surfaces. | 00:28:13 | |
| Permitted on a highly developed shoreland property. | 00:28:17 | |
| Yes. | 00:28:19 | |
| Is there a physical limitation that is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying? | 00:28:23 | |
| With the maximum impervious surface provisions of the ordinance. | 00:28:28 | |
| He's already he's already over the. | 00:28:34 | |
| Already exceeded, already exceeding it, so I don't know if that's a. | 00:28:36 | |
| By the existing structure. | 00:28:42 | |
| Thank you. | 00:28:43 | |
| Is the maximum impervious surface provisions of the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome in this case, thereby creating a hardship? | 00:28:58 | |
| No, no. | 00:29:03 | |
| Does the appellant have other options available to complete these projects in compliance with the ordinance? | 00:29:23 | |
| And he said there was several things they could do right sections but. | 00:29:28 | |
| If they remove some. | 00:29:33 | |
| This service impervious some concrete, some of the stuff that was there. | 00:29:36 | |
| What hardship exists the variances denied? | 00:29:46 | |
| There really isn't, no. | 00:29:50 | |
| Not a legal hardship. | 00:29:51 | |
| Are the projects harmful anyway the public's interest? | 00:29:56 | |
| According to the letter from the DNR, yes there is. I mean, yeah. | 00:30:02 | |
| You know, accumulate this, it would be. | 00:30:04 | |
| Harmful. | 00:30:08 | |
| Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision on this request? | 00:30:15 | |
| Yes. | 00:30:19 | |
| Does the Board believe that the appellants variance request on the maximum impervious surface provisions of the ordinance meet the | 00:30:23 | |
| criteria that is necessary? | 00:30:27 | |
| In order to grant the area variance. | 00:30:30 | |
| No. | 00:30:33 | |
| If the Board can make findings necessary to in order to grant the variance request in this case or any conditions of approval | 00:30:37 | |
| necessary in this case to mitigate any potential adverse impacts that result from the project. | 00:30:42 | |
| No, don't have anything. | 00:30:50 | |
| No, I don't have anything. | 00:30:52 | |
| OK. | 00:30:56 | |
| Area variance Maximum impervious surface is permitted on a highly developed shortened property. | 00:30:59 | |
| I'm looking for a motion to either approve or deny the. | 00:31:04 | |
| Variance request. | 00:31:07 | |
| I'd move to deny. | 00:31:09 | |
| I'll second it. | 00:31:11 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:31:21 | |
| And the motion? | 00:31:24 | |
| Hey, the motion is to deny. | 00:31:25 | |
| We'll call the vote mark. | 00:31:28 | |
| Yes. | 00:31:29 | |
| Gone, yes. | 00:31:31 | |
| Russell. Yes, Rodney. | 00:31:32 | |
| Yes. | 00:31:34 | |
| Myself, yes. | 00:31:35 | |
| The result of the vote is. The motion is. | 00:31:41 | |
| To deny is carried by a 5 to 0 vote. | 00:31:43 | |
| Therefore the. | 00:31:47 | |
| We have denied the variance request as proposed. | 00:31:48 | |
| Do we need to go through the 2nd afforded? Yes. | 00:31:58 | |
| So the conclusions of law based on effects. | 00:32:02 | |
| On the set, back to the ordinary high watermark. | 00:32:04 | |
| The appellant requested section 6.1 of the County Shoreline Protection Ordinance to refer to the setbacks for structures ordinary | 00:32:07 | |
| high wire mark. | 00:32:11 | |
| Correct. Yes. | 00:32:15 | |
| Is there a physical limitation that is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying with the ordinary high | 00:32:20 | |
| watermark set back? | 00:32:23 | |
| Provisions of the ordinance. | 00:32:26 | |
| Technically, a is already beyond the building is already to. | 00:32:28 | |
| The house is too close. Does it exist? | 00:32:32 | |
| Is urinary high watermark set back provision the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome in this case, thereby creating a hardship? | 00:32:54 | |
| No, they've already got * **** **. | 00:33:00 | |
| And he was there. | 00:33:03 | |
| Does the appellant have other options available to complete these projects and compliance with the ordinances? | 00:33:15 | |
| No. | 00:33:20 | |
| Because of little. | 00:33:21 | |
| Because of the location of the. | 00:33:22 | |
| Existing building. | 00:33:24 | |
| Would have to stay in the same the same space he's got. | 00:33:27 | |
| Yeah, he can't. | 00:33:30 | |
| You know, no matter where he builds on that side, he's gonna be closer to the water. | 00:33:31 | |
| Right. | 00:33:35 | |
| Exactly. | 00:33:37 | |
| What hardship exists? The variance is denied. | 00:33:38 | |
| There is no legal hardship. | 00:33:41 | |
| Are the projects harmful in any way the public's interest? | 00:33:48 | |
| Yes, CD in our letter. | 00:33:52 | |
| According to the additional runoff and such. | 00:33:55 | |
| Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision as request? | 00:33:59 | |
| Yes. | 00:34:03 | |
| Does the Board believe the appellant request to the ordinary high watermark set back provisions? The ordinance meet the criteria | 00:34:05 | |
| that is necessary in order to grant the area of variance request. | 00:34:09 | |
| No, no. | 00:34:14 | |
| So if the board makes the findings necessary to grant the variance request in this case, are any conditions of approval necessary | 00:34:21 | |
| in this case? | 00:34:24 | |
| To mitigate any potential adverse impacts and result from other projects. | 00:34:27 | |
| No, no, no. | 00:34:32 | |
| Bill. | 00:34:37 | |
| Area variance. Ordinary high watermark setback provisions. | 00:34:41 | |
| I'm looking for a motion to either approve or deny the variance. | 00:34:44 | |
| For the to the high water. | 00:34:48 | |
| High watermark set back. | 00:34:50 | |
| I move to deny the. | 00:34:52 | |
| Variance the ordinary high. | 00:34:54 | |
| High water set back provisions. | 00:34:56 | |
| 2nd. | 00:34:58 | |
| Motion by John, second by Russ. | 00:35:00 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:35:02 | |
| If not, I'll call the robot. | 00:35:07 | |
| Mark yes. | 00:35:09 | |
| The motion is 39. So yeah, John, yes. | 00:35:11 | |
| Yes, Rodney, Yes. | 00:35:15 | |
| Myself, yes. | 00:35:18 | |
| He's also the voters. | 00:35:19 | |
| 5 to 0 so. | 00:35:21 | |
| The motion carries to deny the variance. | 00:35:23 | |
| Proposed. | 00:35:27 | |
| So I guess if you want to consult with them about. | 00:35:45 | |
| Different things you can do you have to contact. | 00:35:47 | |
| Information. We'll be able to get help from somebody, certainly. | 00:35:52 | |
| Thank you. | 00:35:56 | |
| Just one place. | 00:36:06 | |
| Well, we'll have to. I'll pull back the other one for you. | 00:36:07 | |
| Actually only one. | 00:36:11 | |
| I think it's only one other. | 00:36:17 | |
| I don't think they gave us one back here. | 00:36:21 | |
| I think it was just one signature block. | 00:36:23 | |
| OK, then we'll go to our next one. | 00:36:25 | |
| Notices hereby given that a public hearing will be held by the Dodge County Board of Adjustment Thursday, July 17th. | 00:36:31 | |
| 2025 at 7:15 or shortly thereafter on the first floor. | 00:36:38 | |
| For the Dodge County administration building, Juno, Wisconsin. | 00:36:42 | |
| And the appeal of Brian? | 00:36:46 | |
| For a variance request to the terms of the highway set back preparedness. | 00:36:48 | |
| For the Dodge County Highway to set back ordinance to allow an attached garage. | 00:36:52 | |
| That does not. That does not meet the right of way set back. | 00:36:57 | |
| The request is a variance to subsection 4.2. | 00:37:00 | |
| And table 1-1. | 00:37:03 | |
| Of the Dodge County Highway set back ordinance. | 00:37:05 | |
| Property location Lot 7 block to Burnett Junction, the Southeast Quarter, SE quarter, Section 16. | 00:37:09 | |
| Town of Burnett. | 00:37:16 | |
| Dodge County, Wisconsin, the site address being. | 00:37:18 | |
| W6172 Main St. | 00:37:21 | |
| A copy of the proposed petition is available for review. | 00:37:25 | |
| In County Land Resources and Parks Department, 3 hours of 8:00 AM and 4:30. | 00:37:28 | |
| Monday through Friday. | 00:37:33 | |
| All persons interested are invited to attend and be heard. | 00:37:34 | |
| Written comments may be submitted to the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department at. | 00:37:38 | |
| 127 E Oak St. Juneau, WI over by e-mail. | 00:37:42 | |
| No later than July 16th, 2025. | 00:37:46 | |
| Dodge County Board of Adjustment by William House, chairman. | 00:37:49 | |
| Need a staff report? Certainly Sir. | 00:37:53 | |
| County's jurisdiction The county has jurisdiction over. | 00:37:56 | |
| The site is a town of Burnett has adopted the county's Hwy. set back ordinance. | 00:37:59 | |
| Subsection 2.3. Point 12. Point A and 2.3. | 00:38:03 | |
| 12 point. | 00:38:08 | |
| G of the Dodge County Land Use Code details the procedural matters. | 00:38:09 | |
| And approval criteria for the variance process. | 00:38:14 | |
| The board should hold a public hearing on each variance application and following the public hearing. | 00:38:17 | |
| Act to approve, approve with conditions or deny the variance. | 00:38:22 | |
| Based upon the approval criteria of section. | 00:38:25 | |
| 2.3 point 12 point E. | 00:38:28 | |
| Appellants request. | 00:38:30 | |
| Application for a variance request was submitted. | 00:38:32 | |
| By the applicant on June 12, 2025 for request to the terms of the. | 00:38:35 | |
| Highway set back provisions. | 00:38:40 | |
| Of the Dodge County. | 00:38:42 | |
| Highway set back ordinance to allow. | 00:38:43 | |
| For an attached garage that does not meet the right of way setbacks. | 00:38:45 | |
| As proposed, the project will be 24.5 feet. | 00:38:50 | |
| From the right of way. | 00:38:53 | |
| Of 2nd St. and. | 00:38:54 | |
| 52 feet from the centerline of 2nd St. | 00:38:56 | |
| Or. | 00:38:59 | |
| 5 within the required. | 00:39:01 | |
| Right of way road right away, set back and eight feet. | 00:39:03 | |
| Within the center line set back, thus prohibited by the code. | 00:39:06 | |
| Dodge County highway set back ordinance. This request is in a variance subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway | 00:39:11 | |
| Setback Ordinance. | 00:39:16 | |
| The county has jurisdiction over the site of the Town of Burnett has adopted the Counties Hwy. Setback ordinance. | 00:39:22 | |
| The property property is presently being used for A2 family residential use. | 00:39:27 | |
| Physical features of this. | 00:39:32 | |
| .2. | 00:39:33 | |
| 17 acre lot included gentles gently sloping topography with slopes ranging to zero to 6%. | 00:39:35 | |
| Personal contains A2 family residence. | 00:39:42 | |
| General character of the surrounding land use consists of a single. | 00:39:47 | |
| And two family residential structures. | 00:39:51 | |
| There are two existing structures in the surrounding neighborhood. There are other suits. | 00:39:53 | |
| Structures in the surrounding neighborhood with similar Rd. setbacks as the one proposed. | 00:39:58 | |
| With this application. | 00:40:02 | |
| Property includes the following non conforming structure structures or use. | 00:40:04 | |
| Two family residential within the designated St. and Town Road right away set back to both Main and 2nd St. | 00:40:08 | |
| Approximately 4 to 9 feet. | 00:40:15 | |
| To the right of way. | 00:40:17 | |
| On June 6th. | 00:40:18 | |
| An application for as a Dodge County land use permit was made by the appellant. | 00:40:20 | |
| In order they be allowed to construct a 25 by 34 attached garage. This permit was denied by the county's land use Administrator | 00:40:23 | |
| for the following reasons. | 00:40:28 | |
| Subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway Set Back Ordinance. | 00:40:33 | |
| Refer to the required minimum set back. | 00:40:38 | |
| Distances for structures. | 00:40:40 | |
| The parcel in question lies to the northwest. | 00:40:42 | |
| Of the intersection of Main Street and 2nd St. in the town of Burnett. | 00:40:45 | |
| Both roads are classified as designated roads. | 00:40:49 | |
| Which require a minimum set back. | 00:40:52 | |
| 27 feet from the road right away and 60 feet from the center line of the road as proposed. The attached garage lies 24.5 feet. | 00:40:54 | |
| From 2nd Street Rd. right away. | 00:41:03 | |
| And 52 feet from the centerline. | 00:41:06 | |
| Thus proposed the structures 2.5 feet closer than the allowed. | 00:41:10 | |
| Within the road right away. | 00:41:14 | |
| Set back and eight feet closer than the allowed. | 00:41:16 | |
| Then allow it to the center line as. | 00:41:19 | |
| Allowed by the Dodge County. | 00:41:22 | |
| Highway septic ordinance and therefore is prohibited. | 00:41:24 | |
| The appellate is requesting a. | 00:41:27 | |
| Area An area of variances section subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway Set Back ordinance. | 00:41:29 | |
| There's no town response purpose statement. | 00:41:35 | |
| The highway set back provisions of the county highway set back ordinance for board a variety of public. | 00:41:39 | |
| Purposes such as. | 00:41:44 | |
| Providing for light and air Fire Protection. | 00:41:46 | |
| Traffic Safety prevention of overcrowding. | 00:41:49 | |
| Solving drainage problems. | 00:41:52 | |
| Protecting the appearance and character of the neighborhood. | 00:41:53 | |
| And for conserving property values, the highway set back provisions also provide a uniform set back for all structures along roads | 00:41:56 | |
| within the county. | 00:42:01 | |
| In order they provide safe visibility while entering or exiting a site. | 00:42:05 | |
| And to say taxpayers of Dodge County from. | 00:42:10 | |
| Purchasing non conforming structures located within the highway set back lines. | 00:42:13 | |
| Then when those structures need to be removed for the. | 00:42:17 | |
| Highway improvement. | 00:42:20 | |
| Projects. | 00:42:23 | |
| Staff believes that the appellant is requesting an area variance this. | 00:42:25 | |
| To subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway Set Back ordinance. | 00:42:28 | |
| Staff points out that the board does not have summary powers to ignore. | 00:42:33 | |
| Ordinance provisions. | 00:42:37 | |
| Or objectives the burden. | 00:42:38 | |
| Also falls on the. | 00:42:40 | |
| Talents who convincingly demonstrate. | 00:42:41 | |
| To this board that a literal enforcement of the. | 00:42:44 | |
| Dodge County set back ordinance. | 00:42:47 | |
| Requires. | 00:42:49 | |
| Regulations would. | 00:42:50 | |
| Resulted in unnecessary hardship. That the hardship is due to special conditions. | 00:42:52 | |
| Unique to the property and if granted. | 00:42:56 | |
| The variance would not be contrary to the public interest. | 00:42:58 | |
| If the board should determine the highway set back provisions of the code are unnecessarily burdensome in this case. | 00:43:01 | |
| The board should also consider the. | 00:43:06 | |
| Cost to the town. | 00:43:08 | |
| And the public. | 00:43:09 | |
| Of having to purchase the structure in the future and wouldn't. | 00:43:10 | |
| If the structure would need to be removed for Hwy. improvement, relocations of variance agreement may be required. | 00:43:16 | |
| By the town of. | 00:43:22 | |
| Thank you. | 00:43:27 | |
| Thank you, Palin. Please step forward. | 00:43:28 | |
| Andy, do you have a? | 00:43:30 | |
| Enough. You're still on the other phone. | 00:43:32 | |
| Who? | 00:43:35 | |
| Brian Steiner. | 00:43:42 | |
| Pardon Brian Steiner. | 00:43:43 | |
| Is there anything you would like to add? | 00:43:46 | |
| Timing to. | 00:43:48 | |
| To the record. | 00:43:51 | |
| I'm sorry. | 00:43:53 | |
| Is there anything? | 00:43:54 | |
| That regarding your request that you would like to add to the record at this no and everything's pretty much. | 00:43:55 | |
| In the in the file in the. | 00:44:01 | |
| What I submitted. | 00:44:05 | |
| I mean, I don't think there's anything else I really need to say. | 00:44:06 | |
| Besides, I would like to build a garage and. | 00:44:10 | |
| Put a couple of vehicles in it. | 00:44:14 | |
| There was already a. | 00:44:19 | |
| Structure there, like I said, if. | 00:44:20 | |
| It's everything's in here. | 00:44:22 | |
| I'm really nothing more to add. | 00:44:23 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of variance request before the board? | 00:44:27 | |
| Please step forward and. | 00:44:33 | |
| State your name for the record. | 00:44:35 | |
| My name is Tim Fletcher. | 00:44:45 | |
| I'm the town chairman. | 00:44:47 | |
| For the town of Burnett and also. | 00:44:49 | |
| Neighboring property owner. | 00:44:52 | |
| And I'm having a hard time understanding. | 00:44:53 | |
| How the? | 00:44:56 | |
| Town or the? | 00:44:58 | |
| County got involved in this when the Town of Burnett issued the man a permit. | 00:44:59 | |
| He started his footings. | 00:45:03 | |
| And all of a sudden. | 00:45:05 | |
| Somebody squeals. | 00:45:06 | |
| That there's a problem. | 00:45:08 | |
| Which we don't see any problem. The town issued the permit. | 00:45:10 | |
| It's not anywhere near. | 00:45:13 | |
| Future road construction. | 00:45:16 | |
| I'm not, I'm just a little bit puzzled at where this problem came in. | 00:45:18 | |
| Thank you. | 00:45:24 | |
| Is that it? That's all I have to say. I mean, I, I got another guy here with me. That's our land use administrator and I think he | 00:45:25 | |
| might want to talk as well. | 00:45:28 | |
| John Peachey. | 00:45:46 | |
| Tony Burnett. | 00:45:47 | |
| Land Use Administrator. | 00:45:48 | |
| This is not an unreasonable request for Mr. Steiner. I would like to go on record. | 00:45:51 | |
| Saying that the town would be in favor of it, and I personally am in favor of it. | 00:45:57 | |
| I looked at some old pictures from the history of Burnett and there was a garage there that he removed 70 years ago and 80 years | 00:46:02 | |
| ago. | 00:46:06 | |
| There was an existing garage. He's about a four year. | 00:46:09 | |
| Resident of our Township. | 00:46:13 | |
| And he's cleaning it up, He's making it nicer, he's trying to make it better. And he's also. | 00:46:15 | |
| Increasing the tax base for the community to. | 00:46:19 | |
| Have an extra pool of resources available from. | 00:46:22 | |
| I can't see where this causes unreasonable hardship for any neighbors. | 00:46:25 | |
| And certainly not for anyone. | 00:46:29 | |
| Beyond. | 00:46:31 | |
| But I also. | 00:46:33 | |
| Would like to know how far short he is from the highway. Set back what? What does he fall short of? | 00:46:35 | |
| That was outlined in the staff report. | 00:46:43 | |
| But I will. I did hear it when I. | 00:46:45 | |
| I just would like to have it here again. | 00:46:48 | |
| Sure. | 00:46:50 | |
| So he is proposing to be 24. | 00:46:51 | |
| .5 feet from the right of way. | 00:46:54 | |
| And. | 00:46:58 | |
| That's about 2 1/2 feet too close to the right of way and also the center line. | 00:47:00 | |
| He is proposing to be 52 feet and he is 8 feet short on that. | 00:47:04 | |
| OK. And if he was a neighbor? | 00:47:09 | |
| Down one to the east. | 00:47:12 | |
| One property down or two properties down? Where are we exempt from? | 00:47:13 | |
| The highway set back, Where does it end? | 00:47:18 | |
| Well, the town of Burnett. | 00:47:21 | |
| Adopted the whole Township. Adopted the whole. | 00:47:23 | |
| Highway set back ordinance. I am aware of that. | 00:47:27 | |
| So there's no really exemption. | 00:47:30 | |
| It's just it goes all the way. | 00:47:33 | |
| To the end of the Township line, you might say correct. | 00:47:35 | |
| OK. So if as they continue to remodel 26. | 00:47:38 | |
| Are you measuring from the center of the highway of 26 or not at all? We measured from the center line and the edge of the right | 00:47:42 | |
| away. | 00:47:45 | |
| So if we continue to expand the highway and make it bigger, there's a center line change from years ago or does it stay the same? | 00:47:49 | |
| I depends on where they put the road. I don't know. | 00:47:56 | |
| But the the right of way if they expand the right away then. | 00:48:00 | |
| That slap back, it's a tool. A dual set back. You have to meet both of them, the centerline and the right of way set back. | 00:48:03 | |
| OK. There's another thing I'd like to call to the Board's attention here tonight. | 00:48:10 | |
| There's 5 land owners. | 00:48:14 | |
| That are right in his neighborhood. He's here about four years. | 00:48:16 | |
| Out of the five, one guy is there about 20 years, but there's three. | 00:48:20 | |
| Relatively new land owners. | 00:48:24 | |
| And everyone seems to like to squabble over lot lines. And they're young, they're first time homeowners in a lot of cases. | 00:48:27 | |
| And there's been a lot of struggles here with lot lines, and I think there's one disgruntled person who called this in. | 00:48:34 | |
| We recently had an instance where in the same. | 00:48:41 | |
| Area we're discussing a central area unit had to get removed. | 00:48:44 | |
| And then it got. | 00:48:48 | |
| Repositioned. | 00:48:49 | |
| Whoever called this in has an axe to grind. | 00:48:52 | |
| And if you make it difficult for him, it'll just be 6 months and they'll be down here again with something else. | 00:48:55 | |
| Please keep that in. | 00:49:00 | |
| Consideration when you guys make your decision tonight, but I believe he's not causing hardship for anyone. | 00:49:02 | |
| And I firmly believe that it's a reasonable request. | 00:49:08 | |
| It's far from unreasonable. | 00:49:11 | |
| Hey, thank you. | 00:49:12 | |
| Anyone else in the audience that would like to speak in? | 00:49:15 | |
| Favor of this variance request. | 00:49:19 | |
| Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? | 00:49:22 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? | 00:49:28 | |
| Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak? | 00:49:35 | |
| In opposition to this variance request. | 00:49:39 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? | 00:49:43 | |
| Is there any written we have? | 00:49:49 | |
| OK. Does the board have any questions of the appellant? | 00:49:51 | |
| With the appeal, would like to make a final statement for the record. | 00:49:59 | |
| I just want to say that I'm. | 00:50:02 | |
| Just want to put. | 00:50:06 | |
| A garage back where there was a garage previously. | 00:50:07 | |
| That's all I really wanted to. | 00:50:10 | |
| It would really dress up. | 00:50:13 | |
| It the way it looks if anyone went by him. | 00:50:15 | |
| Looked at the back of the residence, it could really use a little. | 00:50:19 | |
| Polishing up and that's what I want to do by adding. | 00:50:24 | |
| Garage where there was one previously. | 00:50:27 | |
| And by making me. | 00:50:31 | |
| Move it out. | 00:50:33 | |
| Which? | 00:50:34 | |
| They already said I could do but that's. | 00:50:34 | |
| That defeats the purpose of. | 00:50:37 | |
| Putting it adding it to the house where it was already. | 00:50:41 | |
| Just that's all I wanted to do. | 00:50:44 | |
| Put it back was. | 00:50:46 | |
| Thank you. | 00:50:49 | |
| They sent that prepared to close the public hearing. | 00:50:51 | |
| This variance request in. | 00:50:55 | |
| Go to Conclusions of the law. | 00:50:58 | |
| Yeah. | 00:51:02 | |
| The appellant request to subsection 4.2 and Table 1-1, the county's Hwy. set back ordinance. | 00:51:06 | |
| That refer to the set back for public roads. | 00:51:12 | |
| Yes, yes. | 00:51:14 | |
| Is there physical limitation that is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying? | 00:51:17 | |
| With the highway set back provisions of the ordinance. | 00:51:22 | |
| Yes. | 00:51:25 | |
| The location of the existing. | 00:51:28 | |
| 22 family building. | 00:51:30 | |
| Are the highway set back provisions of the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome in this case? | 00:51:45 | |
| Thereby creating a hardship. | 00:51:50 | |
| Yes, because yes. | 00:51:52 | |
| The existing building is. | 00:51:54 | |
| Going to be closer than what he's adding on. | 00:51:56 | |
| Does the appellant have other options available to complete this project in compliance with the ordinance? | 00:52:12 | |
| Not to make it attached, no. | 00:52:20 | |
| What hardship exists? The variance is denied. | 00:52:36 | |
| Can't build. | 00:52:39 | |
| Great. | 00:52:41 | |
| Is a project harmful in any way the public's interest? | 00:52:53 | |
| No, no. | 00:52:57 | |
| Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision this request? | 00:53:26 | |
| Does the Board believe the appellants arrange request a highway set back provisions on the ordinance meets the criteria? | 00:53:30 | |
| Is necessary in order to grant the variance request. | 00:53:36 | |
| Yes, yes. | 00:53:39 | |
| So if the Board can make findings other necessary in order to grant the variance request in this case, are any conditions of | 00:53:41 | |
| approval necessary in this case to mitigate any potential adverse impacts? | 00:53:46 | |
| Result from this proposal. | 00:53:52 | |
| Development. | 00:53:54 | |
| Project. | 00:53:55 | |
| No, no, I mean the staff reported, said the town. | 00:53:58 | |
| You know, if the town or Burnett wanted to. | 00:54:01 | |
| The thing but. | 00:54:05 | |
| As we heard from the Chairman, they don't have any. They don't. | 00:54:06 | |
| Feel that's necessary so. | 00:54:09 | |
| I would say no. | 00:54:10 | |
| OK. | 00:54:17 | |
| Area variance, Hwy. set back provisions. | 00:54:19 | |
| Looking for a motion to either approve or deny. | 00:54:22 | |
| The variance request based on the previously mentioned findings and conditions also move. | 00:54:25 | |
| Approved. | 00:54:31 | |
| Second it. | 00:54:33 | |
| Motion is made to approve. | 00:54:41 | |
| To any discussion. | 00:54:43 | |
| If not, I'll call the roll Rodney. | 00:54:48 | |
| Yes. | 00:54:50 | |
| Russell. Yes, Mark. | 00:54:52 | |
| Yes, John, yes. | 00:54:53 | |
| Myself, yes. | 00:54:56 | |
| The result of the vote is. | 00:54:57 | |
| Zero and so. | 00:55:01 | |
| The variances. | 00:55:04 | |
| Granted. Proposed. | 00:55:06 | |
| And the Land Use Administrator is directly as a land use permit incorporated into the. | 00:55:10 | |
| So it's approved. | 00:55:21 | |
| Thank you so much. | 00:55:23 | |
| I appreciate it. | 00:55:25 | |
| In other business, we have two petitions for next month. | 00:55:32 | |
| One in Oak Grove. | 00:55:36 | |
| Which is enough. It's no, it's different. It's, it's an appeal to our. | 00:55:38 | |
| A decision to enforce an ordinance. | 00:55:43 | |
| So. | 00:55:45 | |
| And then the other one is on Fox. | 00:55:46 | |
| So lastly. | 00:55:50 | |
| For the second in Fox Lake. | 00:55:53 | |
| You can't keep a settled around. | 00:55:57 | |
| Shall we adjourn? Just a quick can I have a question? Quicker, certainly. | 00:56:05 | |
| Since Mr. Fletcher is the chairman of Burnett that he didn't seem to understand. | 00:56:10 | |
| You know the counties. | 00:56:15 | |
| Being involved in this. | 00:56:16 | |
| Is there? | 00:56:18 | |
| Way for the. | 00:56:21 | |
| Department to. | 00:56:22 | |
| Get more information to the. | 00:56:26 | |
| Various townships that they would, you know, that they would understand. I mean, you're not. | 00:56:28 | |
| You're not doing something or we're not trying to do something that. | 00:56:32 | |
| Overrides them. It's just it's part of the law and I guess. | 00:56:35 | |
| They adopted that ordinance and and we can certainly run through that stuff with them if if that's what. | 00:56:39 | |
| The fact that he didn't understand what it was seems to be. | 00:56:47 | |
| A little concerning to me. | 00:56:50 | |
| Understood. | 00:56:52 | |
| Otherwise I move to. | 00:56:58 | |
| Second, all in favor? | 00:57:01 | |
| All right. | 00:57:03 | |
| Motion is. | 00:57:04 | |
| Carried meeting is adjourned. | 00:57:05 |
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| Meeting of the Dodge County Board of Adjustment is hereby called to order. | 00:00:03 | |
| Roll call Mark Osbor. | 00:00:06 | |
| Here here. | 00:00:08 | |
| Russell Cuties here. Madden adjustment here. | 00:00:10 | |
| Itself here very Bishop and Brad pupils excused. | 00:00:13 | |
| A quorum is present. | 00:00:18 | |
| As many county board members here that are not on the committee. | 00:00:20 | |
| I don't see any OK. | 00:00:24 | |
| The staff confirmed compliance with the open meeting law and public hearing. | 00:00:30 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 00:00:33 | |
| Any changes to the agenda? | 00:00:35 | |
| No. | 00:00:38 | |
| OK, we have two sets of minutes to approve. | 00:00:40 | |
| Review the minutes from June 19th. What's your. | 00:00:42 | |
| 3rd on the June 19th ones. | 00:00:46 | |
| Also moved to approve June 19th. I'll second. | 00:00:48 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:00:51 | |
| Hearing all in favor say aye. | 00:00:53 | |
| Aye, opposed. Motion carried. | 00:00:55 | |
| And we have the minutes from July 10th. | 00:00:57 | |
| I'll move to approve. | 00:01:01 | |
| 2nd. | 00:01:03 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:01:05 | |
| Hearing none all in favor say aye. | 00:01:08 | |
| Aye, opposed motion is carried. Minutes approach. | 00:01:10 | |
| The staff please read the hearing procedure for tonight's hearings. | 00:01:14 | |
| Certainly we are meeting today to hear the request for modification of the Dodge County land use code. We have a series of two | 00:01:18 | |
| public hearings tonight. | 00:01:22 | |
| And the procedure for these. | 00:01:26 | |
| Hearings will be as follows. The chairman of the. | 00:01:27 | |
| Port of Adjustment will read the public hearing notice, after which a staff member in the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks | 00:01:30 | |
| Department will read a report that has been prepared by. | 00:01:35 | |
| The county staff regarding the request. | 00:01:39 | |
| Before the board following the staff report. | 00:01:41 | |
| The appellant or their agent will be asked to come before the board. | 00:01:44 | |
| The appellant will be asked to state their name. | 00:01:48 | |
| For the record, and they may present their case to the Board. | 00:01:51 | |
| Or add any additional information. | 00:01:54 | |
| To the record. | 00:01:56 | |
| Those in attendance wishing to speak in favor or opposition. | 00:01:58 | |
| Can come before the board and speak. | 00:02:01 | |
| If you wish to speak, you will be. | 00:02:03 | |
| Asked to step up to the microphone. | 00:02:05 | |
| Which is located in the center of the room and states your name and address for the record and to state your position regarding | 00:02:07 | |
| the request before the board. | 00:02:11 | |
| Please address your comments and questions to the board and not to the. | 00:02:16 | |
| You only only be allowed to speak once, so please be prepared to present. | 00:02:20 | |
| All of your concerns and questions to the board when you speak. | 00:02:25 | |
| All those intendants. | 00:02:29 | |
| After those. | 00:02:31 | |
| In attendance have spoken, written. | 00:02:32 | |
| Correspondence has been received by the Board. | 00:02:36 | |
| Or, which has been collected by the board during the on site visits will then be read into the record. | 00:02:39 | |
| The board will have an opportunity to ask the appellant any questions. | 00:02:44 | |
| The following the Board's questions, the appellant will be allowed to give a final statement for the record. | 00:02:48 | |
| After receiving all of the testimony, the board will. | 00:02:53 | |
| Then deliberate, it will make a decision to grant. | 00:02:56 | |
| Granted part or deny the variance request. | 00:03:00 | |
| And if approved. | 00:03:03 | |
| They may place conditions on the approval. | 00:03:04 | |
| If they feel it necessary to address or mitigate any potential adverse impacts. | 00:03:07 | |
| The proposal may have on the adjacent properties. | 00:03:12 | |
| Or the community. If the variance is approved, staff will be directed to issue a land use permit incorporating. | 00:03:15 | |
| Those conditions approved by the Board. Any person or persons agreed by any decision of the Board. | 00:03:22 | |
| Adjustment may present. | 00:03:28 | |
| To the court of record. | 00:03:30 | |
| A petition duly verified setting forth. | 00:03:32 | |
| That such decision is illegal and specifying the grounds. | 00:03:35 | |
| Of the illegality. Such petitions shall be presented to the Circuit Court. | 00:03:39 | |
| In this county within 30 days after the filing of the decision. | 00:03:43 | |
| In the office of the Board of Adjustment, the county assumes no liability. | 00:03:48 | |
| For and makes no warranty. | 00:03:52 | |
| As to the reliance on any decision if construction is commenced. | 00:03:54 | |
| Prior to the expiration date. | 00:03:58 | |
| Of this 30 day period. | 00:03:59 | |
| If during this meeting, procedural questions. | 00:04:02 | |
| Or other points of order arise. | 00:04:04 | |
| The final decision. | 00:04:06 | |
| Of this board may be postponed until more information is gathered. | 00:04:08 | |
| Considered and properly acted upon. | 00:04:12 | |
| Notice here by giving that a public hearing will be held by the Dodge County Board of Adjustment. | 00:04:26 | |
| On Thursday, July 17th at 2025. | 00:04:31 | |
| At 7:00 PM or shortly thereafter. | 00:04:34 | |
| On the first floor of the Dodge County Administration Building. | 00:04:37 | |
| Tuna, Wisconsin. On the Appeal of Rodney and Rosalind Weiss. | 00:04:40 | |
| Living Trust dated October 12/20/22. | 00:04:44 | |
| For variance to the terms of the ordinary high watermark, set back and. | 00:04:47 | |
| The impervious service provisions of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:04:52 | |
| To allow a debtor would not be those standards. | 00:04:56 | |
| These requests are requests to variance to subsection 6.2 and 9.4. | 00:05:00 | |
| Of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:05:06 | |
| Property lock location lot to CSM 6465 being not. | 00:05:09 | |
| 47 Howards first addition to Lake Grove and. | 00:05:15 | |
| Part of GL 2 NE quarter SE quarter section 21. | 00:05:18 | |
| Town of Fox. | 00:05:23 | |
| Dodge County, Wisconsin, the site address being. | 00:05:26 | |
| In Excuse me. | 00:05:29 | |
| Site address being in. | 00:05:34 | |
| 10634 Howard Drive. | 00:05:36 | |
| A copy the proposed petition is available for review. | 00:05:40 | |
| In the Land, County, Land Resource and Parks Department between the hours of. | 00:05:43 | |
| 8:00 AM and 4:30 PM, Monday through Friday. | 00:05:47 | |
| Whole person's interests are invited to attend and be heard. | 00:05:51 | |
| Written comments may be submitted to the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department. | 00:05:54 | |
| At 127 E Oak St. Juneau, WI or by e-mail no later than July 16th, 2025. | 00:05:59 | |
| County Board of Adjustment by William House, chairman. | 00:06:06 | |
| Anyway, please read the staff report. Certainly. | 00:06:10 | |
| County jurisdiction. | 00:06:13 | |
| County South jurisdiction over This site is the Town of Fox Lake Falls under the county's Land Use code. | 00:06:15 | |
| And shoreline protection ordinance. | 00:06:20 | |
| Subsection 14.7. | 00:06:22 | |
| Parent one through 14. | 00:06:25 | |
| .7 parents six of the Dodge County Charlotte protection. | 00:06:27 | |
| Ordinance list. Procedural matters. | 00:06:30 | |
| And the approval criteria for the variance process. The board shall hold a public hearing on each variance. | 00:06:33 | |
| Application. | 00:06:38 | |
| Following the Public Hearing Act to approve approve with conditions. | 00:06:39 | |
| Or deny the variance based upon the criteria of section 14.7. Parents 6. | 00:06:43 | |
| The appellant request. | 00:06:49 | |
| Application for a variance requests. | 00:06:51 | |
| Were submitted. | 00:06:54 | |
| By the applicant on June 11th, 2025. | 00:06:55 | |
| For requests of the terms of the ordinary high watermark. | 00:06:58 | |
| Set back and the impervious surface provisions of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection ordinance the. | 00:07:01 | |
| To allow a deck that is 14 feet. | 00:07:06 | |
| By 19.5 feet. | 00:07:09 | |
| That does not meet those standards. As proposed, the project will be 40.1 feet from the ordinary high watermark of Fox Lake. | 00:07:11 | |
| Or 17.85 feet within the required set back. | 00:07:19 | |
| Thus prohibited by the code. | 00:07:22 | |
| Also proposed. | 00:07:25 | |
| Also, as proposed, the impervious surface. | 00:07:26 | |
| Coverage will increase from 46.75. | 00:07:29 | |
| Percent to 49.81%. | 00:07:32 | |
| Or 3.06. | 00:07:35 | |
| Percent greater than allowed. | 00:07:37 | |
| These are requests for variances to subsections 6.2 and 9.4 of the Dodge County Store and Protection Ordinance. | 00:07:39 | |
| Features The county has jurisdiction over the. | 00:07:47 | |
| As the site is located within 1000 feet of the ordinary high watermark of a navigable Wat. | 00:07:52 | |
| Waterway, Fox Lake. | 00:07:58 | |
| The property is currently. | 00:08:00 | |
| Being used for residential use. | 00:08:02 | |
| The physical features of this. | 00:08:04 | |
| 2.05 acre. | 00:08:06 | |
| Lot includes sloping topography with slopes ranging from. | 00:08:07 | |
| Zero to 25%. The parcel contains the residents and associated accessory structures. | 00:08:11 | |
| The current impervious surface. | 00:08:17 | |
| Surfaces on this property. | 00:08:19 | |
| Our 4175 square feet. | 00:08:21 | |
| Or 46.75%. | 00:08:24 | |
| The proposed impervious surfaces on this property. | 00:08:27 | |
| Our 4000. | 00:08:30 | |
| 448 square feet or 49.81%. | 00:08:32 | |
| This property is. | 00:08:36 | |
| Considered to be a highly developed shoreline. | 00:08:38 | |
| Under section 9.4. | 00:08:40 | |
| Of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:08:43 | |
| And is permitted up to 30% impervious surfaces without mitigation and up to 40% with mitigation per subsection 9.5 parent two of | 00:08:46 | |
| the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:08:52 | |
| The general character of the surrounding land. | 00:08:58 | |
| Use consists of single family residences to the North and South, while an agricultural field is. | 00:09:01 | |
| Located West of Howard at Howard Drive. | 00:09:07 | |
| Per Section 16.2 of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance, a deck is defined as a structure. | 00:09:10 | |
| The set back average for a primary structure per Section 6.2 of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:09:18 | |
| Is 57.95 feet from the ordinary high watermark. | 00:09:26 | |
| The residents on this property is currently 54.1%. | 00:09:30 | |
| Feet from the ordinary high watermark. | 00:09:35 | |
| On April 16th. | 00:09:38 | |
| 2025 An application for a county land use permit. | 00:09:40 | |
| Was made by the appellant. | 00:09:44 | |
| To construct a deck. | 00:09:46 | |
| On the east side of the residence. | 00:09:47 | |
| The permit was withheld on April 24th. | 00:09:49 | |
| 2025 as no impervious surface worksheet was. | 00:09:52 | |
| Provided. | 00:09:55 | |
| An on site inspection was conducted on May 22nd, 2025. | 00:09:56 | |
| Following further review and additional correspondence between staff and the applicant. | 00:10:01 | |
| The land use permit was denied on June 16th, 2025. | 00:10:06 | |
| A variance application was submitted. | 00:10:10 | |
| To this department prior to the permit denial. | 00:10:12 | |
| On June 11th, 2025. | 00:10:15 | |
| Applicable ordinance provisions in this case. | 00:10:19 | |
| Section 6.1 of the Shorelands shoreline set back within. | 00:10:22 | |
| Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance, unless exempt, a set back of 75 feet from the ordinary high watermark of any | 00:10:26 | |
| navigable waters. | 00:10:31 | |
| To the nearest part of the. | 00:10:35 | |
| A building. | 00:10:37 | |
| Or structure shall be required. | 00:10:38 | |
| For all buildings and structures. | 00:10:40 | |
| Section 6.2 Reduced principal size structure set back. | 00:10:42 | |
| Within Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:10:47 | |
| This provision allows for an average of the two neighboring principal structures to be utilized to provide a reduced. | 00:10:50 | |
| Set back to the ordinary high watermark. | 00:10:56 | |
| Subsections 9.5, parent 2. | 00:10:59 | |
| Maximum impervious surfaces for highly developed shorelines. | 00:11:03 | |
| Within the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance, this provision allows for a property to reach up to 30% without mitigation | 00:11:06 | |
| and up to 40% with mitigation. | 00:11:11 | |
| Section 9.6. | 00:11:18 | |
| Treated impervious surfaces. | 00:11:20 | |
| Within the Dodge County Shoreland protection ordinance, this provision. | 00:11:22 | |
| States that the impervious surfaces. | 00:11:25 | |
| That can be documented to show that they are meeting. | 00:11:28 | |
| Any of the requirements under this section shall be excluded. | 00:11:31 | |
| From the impervious surface calculations. | 00:11:35 | |
| Section 9.7. Existing impervious services. | 00:11:38 | |
| Within the Dodge County Shoreline protection Ordinance, this provision allows. | 00:11:42 | |
| For the relocation or modification of an existing impervious surfaces. | 00:11:45 | |
| With similar or different impervious surfaces. | 00:11:50 | |
| Provided the relocation or modification does not result in an increase. | 00:11:53 | |
| Of the. | 00:11:57 | |
| Impervious surface calculations. | 00:11:58 | |
| This permit was denied by the county land use. | 00:12:00 | |
| Administrator for the following reasons. | 00:12:03 | |
| As proposed, the deck would be. | 00:12:09 | |
| Located 40.1 feet from the ordinary high watermark of Fox Lake or 17.85 feet within the required set back and thus prohibited by. | 00:12:11 | |
| Section 6.1 and 6.2 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:12:19 | |
| Additionally, the. | 00:12:24 | |
| Current impervious services on this property are. | 00:12:25 | |
| 4175 square feet or. | 00:12:28 | |
| 46.75. | 00:12:31 | |
| Percent were. | 00:12:33 | |
| While the proposed impervious. | 00:12:35 | |
| On this property are 40. | 00:12:37 | |
| 4448 square feet or 49.81%. | 00:12:39 | |
| This property is considered to be a highly developed shoreline. | 00:12:44 | |
| Section 9.4 of the Dodge County Charlotte Protection ordinance. | 00:12:47 | |
| And isn't permitted up to 30% impervious surfaces without mitigation and up to 40. | 00:12:51 | |
| Percent. | 00:12:57 | |
| With mitigation per subsection 9.5. | 00:12:58 | |
| Parent two of the Dodge County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:13:02 | |
| According to subsection. | 00:13:07 | |
| 9.5 point 2 the maximum allowed impervious surfaces. | 00:13:08 | |
| For this lot. | 00:13:12 | |
| With mitigation, our 40%. | 00:13:13 | |
| Currently the a lot exceeds the permissible impervious surfaces for a highly developed shoreline. | 00:13:15 | |
| Under Section 9.7, the property owner may maintain. | 00:13:22 | |
| This increased impervious surfaces. | 00:13:26 | |
| Provided is not fully. | 00:13:29 | |
| Further expanded. | 00:13:30 | |
| However, the proposed increase exceeds both the impervious surfaces limits set by subsection 9.5, parent 2 and the standards. | 00:13:32 | |
| In 9.7 of the Dodge County shoreland. | 00:13:42 | |
| Protection ordinance making it prohibited. | 00:13:44 | |
| This section of the ordinance main. | 00:13:47 | |
| Be met by utilizing treated impervious surfaces. | 00:13:50 | |
| Requirement listed under section 9.6. | 00:13:54 | |
| Or by relocation of the existing impervious surfaces. | 00:13:57 | |
| Under 9.7 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:14:00 | |
| The appellate is requesting an area variance to section 6.1. | 00:14:04 | |
| And Section 9.4 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:14:08 | |
| With no response from the town. | 00:14:13 | |
| Purpose statement the purpose of the water set back provisions of the. | 00:14:16 | |
| Code require. | 00:14:20 | |
| Is to require uniform set back distance from the water. | 00:14:22 | |
| To preserve public interest in shorelines. | 00:14:25 | |
| Navigable waterways of the state. | 00:14:27 | |
| Every property owner that has frontage on a body of water is required to comply with this uniform water set back requirement. | 00:14:29 | |
| In this case, the deck is located within the set back. | 00:14:36 | |
| And there. | 00:14:40 | |
| Prohibited by the code. | 00:14:41 | |
| The purpose of the impervious services. | 00:14:43 | |
| Of the shoreland. | 00:14:46 | |
| Ordinance is to control runoff, which can. | 00:14:48 | |
| Carries pollutants to the water of the state and to protect the navigability of water. | 00:14:50 | |
| Navigable waters and the public's right to their. | 00:14:56 | |
| They're in of degree. | 00:14:59 | |
| Degradation. | 00:15:01 | |
| And deterioration. | 00:15:03 | |
| The final impervious services would be 4448 square feet. | 00:15:06 | |
| Or 270? | 00:15:10 | |
| Three square feet above the required maximum. | 00:15:11 | |
| Impervious surfaces for this lot and thus prohibited by the code. | 00:15:14 | |
| Staff Advisory staff points out that the board does not have summary powers to ignore the ordinance. | 00:15:18 | |
| Provisions or objectives? The burden also falls on the appellant to convincingly demonstrate. | 00:15:23 | |
| The board, the little literal enforcement. | 00:15:29 | |
| Of the. | 00:15:31 | |
| Shoreline Ordinance. | 00:15:33 | |
| Certainly, protection ordinance regulations would result in an unnecessary hardship. | 00:15:34 | |
| And the hardship is due to the special conditions unique to the property and if granted. | 00:15:39 | |
| The variance would not. | 00:15:44 | |
| Be contrary to the public interest. | 00:15:45 | |
| Is important to note that the impervious service section of the 9th. | 00:15:47 | |
| Section of the land use. | 00:15:51 | |
| Permit may. | 00:15:53 | |
| Be met by utilizing treated impervious surfaces requirements. | 00:15:54 | |
| Listed under section 9.6. | 00:15:58 | |
| Or by relocation of the existing purpose. | 00:16:00 | |
| Impervious surfaces. | 00:16:03 | |
| Under Section 9.7 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:16:04 | |
| Examples of these could be. | 00:16:08 | |
| Could include, but are not limited to replacement of impervious surfaces with impermeable. | 00:16:10 | |
| With permeable pavers, removal of concrete. | 00:16:15 | |
| Such as sidewalks or a portion of the driveway. | 00:16:18 | |
| Or installing an. | 00:16:21 | |
| Tracian Basin. | 00:16:22 | |
| Or installing a rain garden. | 00:16:24 | |
| It's a staff's position that the board will be unable to make the findings. | 00:16:26 | |
| Necessary. | 00:16:30 | |
| In order to grant a variance in this case, therefore, the variance request should be denied. | 00:16:31 | |
| Thank you, Andy. | 00:16:39 | |
| Will the appellant please step forward? | 00:16:42 | |
| Sneak your name for your record, please. Lou Davis. | 00:16:54 | |
| Is there any information regarding your request that you would like to add to the record at this time? | 00:16:59 | |
| Well, I guess one thing is I'm neighbor and also the contractor. I own the house that's next to it at 10638. | 00:17:05 | |
| Far as. | 00:17:15 | |
| The process I've been through the process. | 00:17:16 | |
| Knowing that. | 00:17:19 | |
| I'm the neighbor next door and dealt with the. | 00:17:19 | |
| The land and all the rules and regulations that. | 00:17:22 | |
| Come along with living on the lake. | 00:17:25 | |
| One of the questions is or a comment is is that. | 00:17:28 | |
| Through this process I know that. | 00:17:32 | |
| They take the average of the two. | 00:17:35 | |
| You know beside it, but as you look at that deal and I know unfortunately. | 00:17:38 | |
| He's not. He's not. | 00:17:41 | |
| If he was moved down one house, he would be better off on their. | 00:17:43 | |
| That was granted to do those retaining walls in that land. Where this deck is going is treated as a patio right now primarily. | 00:17:47 | |
| There on that top of that retaining wall. So that was the original. | 00:17:57 | |
| Request was to be able to. | 00:18:00 | |
| Put some kind of structure or either a imperial pavers. | 00:18:02 | |
| In that area so that they could have it more than rock. | 00:18:08 | |
| On there if a deck was not permitted. | 00:18:11 | |
| So. | 00:18:13 | |
| Thank you. | 00:18:17 | |
| There anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor as a variance request before the board. | 00:18:20 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of the variance request before the board? | 00:18:26 | |
| I'm in favor. | 00:18:32 | |
| And I'm a neighbor. | 00:18:33 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? | 00:18:38 | |
| Past three times it's. | 00:18:43 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to the variance request before the board? | 00:18:47 | |
| Anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? | 00:18:54 | |
| Is anyone in the audience that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request before the war? | 00:19:01 | |
| Lord, do you have any questions of? | 00:19:08 | |
| Anyone. | 00:19:18 | |
| You want to read the. | 00:19:27 | |
| Read the DNR thing into the record. Will do. | 00:19:29 | |
| Certainly, please. | 00:19:32 | |
| Dear board members, the Department of Natural Resources has received. | 00:19:35 | |
| The notice of this for a July 17, 2025 public hearing. | 00:19:39 | |
| Concerning the appeal of Rodney and Rosalind Weiss, Living Trust. | 00:19:43 | |
| Dated October 12/20/22. | 00:19:47 | |
| For variances to the terms of the ordinary high watermark, set back. | 00:19:51 | |
| Any pervious surfaces of Dodge County shoreline protection ordinance. | 00:19:55 | |
| To allow a deck. | 00:19:59 | |
| That would be. | 00:20:00 | |
| Would not meet those standards. | 00:20:01 | |
| These are requests of variances 6.2. | 00:20:03 | |
| And 9.4 of the Dodge County Shoreline Protection Ordinance. | 00:20:06 | |
| Property location. | 00:20:10 | |
| To CSM 6465. | 00:20:12 | |
| Being Lot 47 of Howard's. | 00:20:16 | |
| First addition to Lake. | 00:20:18 | |
| Grove and part of Government Lot 2. | 00:20:21 | |
| Northeast quarter of Southeast quarter, Section 21. | 00:20:24 | |
| Town 13th. | 00:20:27 | |
| Range 13, Town of Fox Lake. | 00:20:29 | |
| Dodge County, Wisconsin, site address being N 106. | 00:20:31 | |
| 3/4. | 00:20:36 | |
| Howard Drive the department. | 00:20:37 | |
| Is writing in response to the. | 00:20:39 | |
| County Board of Adjustments request. | 00:20:41 | |
| For an opinion from the department. | 00:20:44 | |
| Perth chapter 59.692, Parent 4. | 00:20:47 | |
| Parent B Wisconsin State statutes is allowed. | 00:20:51 | |
| By law, this letter is based. | 00:20:54 | |
| And the information provided. | 00:20:56 | |
| In the hearing notice and application submitted. | 00:20:57 | |
| Please have this rhetoric letter read. | 00:21:00 | |
| Letter delivered and read before the BOA. | 00:21:04 | |
| Per the information provided by the applicant, the department does not believe. | 00:21:08 | |
| The applicant can demonstrate meeting. | 00:21:12 | |
| The three statutory criteria. | 00:21:15 | |
| For granting a variance. | 00:21:17 | |
| The Snyder Walk. | 00:21:19 | |
| Shaw County Zoning Board of adjustment decision. | 00:21:20 | |
| Made it clear a circumstance or desire. | 00:21:24 | |
| Of the applicant is not a factor to be considered when deciding variances. | 00:21:27 | |
| Further, the Wisconsin. | 00:21:32 | |
| State. | 00:21:34 | |
| Versus Winnebago County decision. | 00:21:36 | |
| Established that economic loss or financial hardship. | 00:21:39 | |
| Do not justify A variance as the board reviews. | 00:21:42 | |
| These variance requests please keep in mind. | 00:21:46 | |
| The applicant has a burden of proving. | 00:21:48 | |
| That their requests meet all the statutory requirements for the granting. | 00:21:51 | |
| Of a variance of each variance request. | 00:21:55 | |
| That is, the applicant must prove that they will suffer unnecessary. | 00:21:57 | |
| That's their hardship if the provisions of the county. | 00:22:02 | |
| Shoreline ordinance are literally in force. | 00:22:05 | |
| Wisconsin Supreme Court has made it clear that the proof. | 00:22:08 | |
| Unnecessary hardship by itself. | 00:22:12 | |
| Does not entitle an applicant. | 00:22:14 | |
| To a variance. | 00:22:16 | |
| All three statutory variance criteria must be satisfied. | 00:22:18 | |
| In order to grant. | 00:22:22 | |
| Of each variance. | 00:22:23 | |
| It may be possible that an applicant will provide additional evidence at the hearing which may change the. | 00:22:25 | |
| Conclusions listed below. | 00:22:31 | |
| Unique physical limitations. | 00:22:33 | |
| The applicant must demonstrate that a unique physical limitation. | 00:22:35 | |
| Wetlands, steep slope streams, rock, oak croppings. | 00:22:39 | |
| Or special conditions of the property. | 00:22:42 | |
| That prevent compliance with the order ordinance, regulations, the physical. | 00:22:45 | |
| Limitations must be unique to the property. | 00:22:50 | |
| In question and not generally shared. | 00:22:53 | |
| By other properties in the area. | 00:22:55 | |
| After review of the Dodge County air photos and contours, appears that this lot does not meet. | 00:22:58 | |
| Does not, does not contain any. | 00:23:04 | |
| Unique limitations. | 00:23:06 | |
| Physical limitations and is very similar. | 00:23:08 | |
| The adjacent properties. | 00:23:10 | |
| No harm to public interest. The applicant must demonstrate that the variance will not result in harm or be contrary to the public | 00:23:13 | |
| interests. | 00:23:17 | |
| The board must consider the impact. | 00:23:21 | |
| Of the proposed. | 00:23:23 | |
| Project as well as cumulative impacts of similar projects. | 00:23:25 | |
| On the interests of the neighbors, the community and the general public. | 00:23:28 | |
| These interests are. | 00:23:32 | |
| Listed in the purpose statement. | 00:23:34 | |
| Of the ordinance and. | 00:23:36 | |
| For shoreland zoning include protection of the public health. | 00:23:37 | |
| Safety and welfare maintenance of clean water. | 00:23:41 | |
| Protection of Fish and Wildlife habitat. | 00:23:43 | |
| And preservation of natural. | 00:23:46 | |
| And scenic beauty. | 00:23:48 | |
| Scientific studies have shown when the projects. | 00:23:50 | |
| Are constructed within the water set back. | 00:23:53 | |
| There can be a environmental concern, such as change in fish species from. | 00:23:57 | |
| Game. Fish to rough fish. Loss of wildlife habitat. | 00:24:02 | |
| More runoff entering the lake without filtering. | 00:24:06 | |
| Loss of natural scenic beauty, etc. | 00:24:09 | |
| Cumulative impacts. | 00:24:12 | |
| Of the repeated projects. | 00:24:13 | |
| So close to the water bodies can multiply the impacts of the loss of habitat. | 00:24:15 | |
| This property contains multiple retaining walls, 2 sets of stairs. | 00:24:20 | |
| In a boathouse with a patio, all located within the shoreland set back. | 00:24:24 | |
| The applicant has not provided any. | 00:24:29 | |
| Providing information describing. | 00:24:31 | |
| No harm to the public interest. | 00:24:33 | |
| Unnecessary hardship. The applicant must demonstrate that if the. | 00:24:35 | |
| Variance is not granted. An unnecessary hardship exists. | 00:24:39 | |
| The applicant may not complain. | 00:24:42 | |
| Claim unnecessary hardship because of. | 00:24:44 | |
| Conditions. | 00:24:47 | |
| Which are self-imposed or created by a prior owner. | 00:24:48 | |
| For example, building a home in compliance. | 00:24:51 | |
| And then subsequently. | 00:24:54 | |
| Constructing a deck without a permit. | 00:24:56 | |
| Courts have determined that economic or. | 00:24:59 | |
| Financial hardship does not justify. | 00:25:02 | |
| When determining whether an unnecessary hardship exists, the board. | 00:25:04 | |
| Let's consider the property as a whole. | 00:25:08 | |
| Rather than just a portion of the. | 00:25:11 | |
| Parcel the denial of the deck is not. | 00:25:12 | |
| And unnecessarily. | 00:25:16 | |
| Burdensome. There is an existing patio located on top of the boathouse. | 00:25:18 | |
| Providing opportunity to enjoy the outdoors. | 00:25:22 | |
| There are options available to meet the impervious surface. | 00:25:25 | |
| Requirements such as utilizing stormwater control measures or removing. | 00:25:29 | |
| Some of the existing pervious surfaces. | 00:25:33 | |
| Please note that these comments are in regards to the shoreland zoning. | 00:25:36 | |
| Regulations only and do not reflect applicable erosion control. | 00:25:40 | |
| Waterway permitting, floodplain zoning or other department regulations. | 00:25:44 | |
| Is the responsibility of the Board of Adjustment to assure? | 00:25:48 | |
| That the statutory standards for the granting of a. | 00:25:51 | |
| A variance are met. | 00:25:55 | |
| The standards help to ensure the protection of the public interest. | 00:25:56 | |
| Including the preservation of. | 00:26:00 | |
| Water quality and fish wildlife. | 00:26:02 | |
| Habitat along lakes and rivers. Wisconsin navigable. | 00:26:04 | |
| Waterways are held in trust. | 00:26:08 | |
| For all people to enjoy the shoreland. | 00:26:10 | |
| Set back is important to protect the water quality. | 00:26:12 | |
| Natural scenic beauty and the fish. | 00:26:15 | |
| And wildlife habitat. | 00:26:17 | |
| Wisconsin's waterways. | 00:26:19 | |
| The department appreciates her. | 00:26:21 | |
| Commitment to Dodge County's water resources and protection of public interest. | 00:26:23 | |
| For future generations, sincerely. | 00:26:28 | |
| Sue Vander Langenberg. | 00:26:30 | |
| Shoreline Zoning Program coordinator. | 00:26:33 | |
| Any other correspondence, Andy? | 00:26:38 | |
| No. | 00:26:40 | |
| Does the board have any questions at this point after that? | 00:26:42 | |
| Would the appeal? Would like to make a final statement on this for the record. | 00:26:48 | |
| Well, yes, for the record, it sounds like it's not going to pass. | 00:26:53 | |
| The question is now before you do if it if you do not pass it. | 00:26:56 | |
| I'm not sure if we can discuss it after you do or you don't. | 00:27:01 | |
| Of what the abilities that they can because it's already used as a patio and if you put permeable pavers there is that acceptable? | 00:27:05 | |
| If you don't pass it as a deck, that would be a question for staff tomorrow. | 00:27:14 | |
| OK, I thought Bryce said. I could ask that here. I thought so. | 00:27:19 | |
| I would ask Price tomorrow. | 00:27:22 | |
| Then you have to go through the whole process again. | 00:27:24 | |
| Well, this permit has already been denied, so they deny the. | 00:27:28 | |
| The variance. | 00:27:32 | |
| That one. | 00:27:33 | |
| Is is finished and we'd have to start anew. | 00:27:34 | |
| OK, then I have nothing else. | 00:27:37 | |
| Thank you. | 00:27:45 | |
| Well, the public testimony. | 00:27:49 | |
| Of the hearing is now completed, I closed the hearing part. | 00:27:51 | |
| The board will now deliberate on the matter. | 00:27:53 | |
| Before the. | 00:27:56 | |
| Before them. | 00:27:56 | |
| Or the conclusions of the law. | 00:27:58 | |
| Presented. | 00:28:00 | |
| Based on the facts presented in the application and at the public hearing, the Board concludes that. | 00:28:02 | |
| The appellants request to section 9.4 of the County Shoreland Protection Ordinance. | 00:28:09 | |
| Which refers the maximum impervious surfaces. | 00:28:13 | |
| Permitted on a highly developed shoreland property. | 00:28:17 | |
| Yes. | 00:28:19 | |
| Is there a physical limitation that is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying? | 00:28:23 | |
| With the maximum impervious surface provisions of the ordinance. | 00:28:28 | |
| He's already he's already over the. | 00:28:34 | |
| Already exceeded, already exceeding it, so I don't know if that's a. | 00:28:36 | |
| By the existing structure. | 00:28:42 | |
| Thank you. | 00:28:43 | |
| Is the maximum impervious surface provisions of the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome in this case, thereby creating a hardship? | 00:28:58 | |
| No, no. | 00:29:03 | |
| Does the appellant have other options available to complete these projects in compliance with the ordinance? | 00:29:23 | |
| And he said there was several things they could do right sections but. | 00:29:28 | |
| If they remove some. | 00:29:33 | |
| This service impervious some concrete, some of the stuff that was there. | 00:29:36 | |
| What hardship exists the variances denied? | 00:29:46 | |
| There really isn't, no. | 00:29:50 | |
| Not a legal hardship. | 00:29:51 | |
| Are the projects harmful anyway the public's interest? | 00:29:56 | |
| According to the letter from the DNR, yes there is. I mean, yeah. | 00:30:02 | |
| You know, accumulate this, it would be. | 00:30:04 | |
| Harmful. | 00:30:08 | |
| Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision on this request? | 00:30:15 | |
| Yes. | 00:30:19 | |
| Does the Board believe that the appellants variance request on the maximum impervious surface provisions of the ordinance meet the | 00:30:23 | |
| criteria that is necessary? | 00:30:27 | |
| In order to grant the area variance. | 00:30:30 | |
| No. | 00:30:33 | |
| If the Board can make findings necessary to in order to grant the variance request in this case or any conditions of approval | 00:30:37 | |
| necessary in this case to mitigate any potential adverse impacts that result from the project. | 00:30:42 | |
| No, don't have anything. | 00:30:50 | |
| No, I don't have anything. | 00:30:52 | |
| OK. | 00:30:56 | |
| Area variance Maximum impervious surface is permitted on a highly developed shortened property. | 00:30:59 | |
| I'm looking for a motion to either approve or deny the. | 00:31:04 | |
| Variance request. | 00:31:07 | |
| I'd move to deny. | 00:31:09 | |
| I'll second it. | 00:31:11 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:31:21 | |
| And the motion? | 00:31:24 | |
| Hey, the motion is to deny. | 00:31:25 | |
| We'll call the vote mark. | 00:31:28 | |
| Yes. | 00:31:29 | |
| Gone, yes. | 00:31:31 | |
| Russell. Yes, Rodney. | 00:31:32 | |
| Yes. | 00:31:34 | |
| Myself, yes. | 00:31:35 | |
| The result of the vote is. The motion is. | 00:31:41 | |
| To deny is carried by a 5 to 0 vote. | 00:31:43 | |
| Therefore the. | 00:31:47 | |
| We have denied the variance request as proposed. | 00:31:48 | |
| Do we need to go through the 2nd afforded? Yes. | 00:31:58 | |
| So the conclusions of law based on effects. | 00:32:02 | |
| On the set, back to the ordinary high watermark. | 00:32:04 | |
| The appellant requested section 6.1 of the County Shoreline Protection Ordinance to refer to the setbacks for structures ordinary | 00:32:07 | |
| high wire mark. | 00:32:11 | |
| Correct. Yes. | 00:32:15 | |
| Is there a physical limitation that is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying with the ordinary high | 00:32:20 | |
| watermark set back? | 00:32:23 | |
| Provisions of the ordinance. | 00:32:26 | |
| Technically, a is already beyond the building is already to. | 00:32:28 | |
| The house is too close. Does it exist? | 00:32:32 | |
| Is urinary high watermark set back provision the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome in this case, thereby creating a hardship? | 00:32:54 | |
| No, they've already got * **** **. | 00:33:00 | |
| And he was there. | 00:33:03 | |
| Does the appellant have other options available to complete these projects and compliance with the ordinances? | 00:33:15 | |
| No. | 00:33:20 | |
| Because of little. | 00:33:21 | |
| Because of the location of the. | 00:33:22 | |
| Existing building. | 00:33:24 | |
| Would have to stay in the same the same space he's got. | 00:33:27 | |
| Yeah, he can't. | 00:33:30 | |
| You know, no matter where he builds on that side, he's gonna be closer to the water. | 00:33:31 | |
| Right. | 00:33:35 | |
| Exactly. | 00:33:37 | |
| What hardship exists? The variance is denied. | 00:33:38 | |
| There is no legal hardship. | 00:33:41 | |
| Are the projects harmful in any way the public's interest? | 00:33:48 | |
| Yes, CD in our letter. | 00:33:52 | |
| According to the additional runoff and such. | 00:33:55 | |
| Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision as request? | 00:33:59 | |
| Yes. | 00:34:03 | |
| Does the Board believe the appellant request to the ordinary high watermark set back provisions? The ordinance meet the criteria | 00:34:05 | |
| that is necessary in order to grant the area of variance request. | 00:34:09 | |
| No, no. | 00:34:14 | |
| So if the board makes the findings necessary to grant the variance request in this case, are any conditions of approval necessary | 00:34:21 | |
| in this case? | 00:34:24 | |
| To mitigate any potential adverse impacts and result from other projects. | 00:34:27 | |
| No, no, no. | 00:34:32 | |
| Bill. | 00:34:37 | |
| Area variance. Ordinary high watermark setback provisions. | 00:34:41 | |
| I'm looking for a motion to either approve or deny the variance. | 00:34:44 | |
| For the to the high water. | 00:34:48 | |
| High watermark set back. | 00:34:50 | |
| I move to deny the. | 00:34:52 | |
| Variance the ordinary high. | 00:34:54 | |
| High water set back provisions. | 00:34:56 | |
| 2nd. | 00:34:58 | |
| Motion by John, second by Russ. | 00:35:00 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:35:02 | |
| If not, I'll call the robot. | 00:35:07 | |
| Mark yes. | 00:35:09 | |
| The motion is 39. So yeah, John, yes. | 00:35:11 | |
| Yes, Rodney, Yes. | 00:35:15 | |
| Myself, yes. | 00:35:18 | |
| He's also the voters. | 00:35:19 | |
| 5 to 0 so. | 00:35:21 | |
| The motion carries to deny the variance. | 00:35:23 | |
| Proposed. | 00:35:27 | |
| So I guess if you want to consult with them about. | 00:35:45 | |
| Different things you can do you have to contact. | 00:35:47 | |
| Information. We'll be able to get help from somebody, certainly. | 00:35:52 | |
| Thank you. | 00:35:56 | |
| Just one place. | 00:36:06 | |
| Well, we'll have to. I'll pull back the other one for you. | 00:36:07 | |
| Actually only one. | 00:36:11 | |
| I think it's only one other. | 00:36:17 | |
| I don't think they gave us one back here. | 00:36:21 | |
| I think it was just one signature block. | 00:36:23 | |
| OK, then we'll go to our next one. | 00:36:25 | |
| Notices hereby given that a public hearing will be held by the Dodge County Board of Adjustment Thursday, July 17th. | 00:36:31 | |
| 2025 at 7:15 or shortly thereafter on the first floor. | 00:36:38 | |
| For the Dodge County administration building, Juno, Wisconsin. | 00:36:42 | |
| And the appeal of Brian? | 00:36:46 | |
| For a variance request to the terms of the highway set back preparedness. | 00:36:48 | |
| For the Dodge County Highway to set back ordinance to allow an attached garage. | 00:36:52 | |
| That does not. That does not meet the right of way set back. | 00:36:57 | |
| The request is a variance to subsection 4.2. | 00:37:00 | |
| And table 1-1. | 00:37:03 | |
| Of the Dodge County Highway set back ordinance. | 00:37:05 | |
| Property location Lot 7 block to Burnett Junction, the Southeast Quarter, SE quarter, Section 16. | 00:37:09 | |
| Town of Burnett. | 00:37:16 | |
| Dodge County, Wisconsin, the site address being. | 00:37:18 | |
| W6172 Main St. | 00:37:21 | |
| A copy of the proposed petition is available for review. | 00:37:25 | |
| In County Land Resources and Parks Department, 3 hours of 8:00 AM and 4:30. | 00:37:28 | |
| Monday through Friday. | 00:37:33 | |
| All persons interested are invited to attend and be heard. | 00:37:34 | |
| Written comments may be submitted to the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department at. | 00:37:38 | |
| 127 E Oak St. Juneau, WI over by e-mail. | 00:37:42 | |
| No later than July 16th, 2025. | 00:37:46 | |
| Dodge County Board of Adjustment by William House, chairman. | 00:37:49 | |
| Need a staff report? Certainly Sir. | 00:37:53 | |
| County's jurisdiction The county has jurisdiction over. | 00:37:56 | |
| The site is a town of Burnett has adopted the county's Hwy. set back ordinance. | 00:37:59 | |
| Subsection 2.3. Point 12. Point A and 2.3. | 00:38:03 | |
| 12 point. | 00:38:08 | |
| G of the Dodge County Land Use Code details the procedural matters. | 00:38:09 | |
| And approval criteria for the variance process. | 00:38:14 | |
| The board should hold a public hearing on each variance application and following the public hearing. | 00:38:17 | |
| Act to approve, approve with conditions or deny the variance. | 00:38:22 | |
| Based upon the approval criteria of section. | 00:38:25 | |
| 2.3 point 12 point E. | 00:38:28 | |
| Appellants request. | 00:38:30 | |
| Application for a variance request was submitted. | 00:38:32 | |
| By the applicant on June 12, 2025 for request to the terms of the. | 00:38:35 | |
| Highway set back provisions. | 00:38:40 | |
| Of the Dodge County. | 00:38:42 | |
| Highway set back ordinance to allow. | 00:38:43 | |
| For an attached garage that does not meet the right of way setbacks. | 00:38:45 | |
| As proposed, the project will be 24.5 feet. | 00:38:50 | |
| From the right of way. | 00:38:53 | |
| Of 2nd St. and. | 00:38:54 | |
| 52 feet from the centerline of 2nd St. | 00:38:56 | |
| Or. | 00:38:59 | |
| 5 within the required. | 00:39:01 | |
| Right of way road right away, set back and eight feet. | 00:39:03 | |
| Within the center line set back, thus prohibited by the code. | 00:39:06 | |
| Dodge County highway set back ordinance. This request is in a variance subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway | 00:39:11 | |
| Setback Ordinance. | 00:39:16 | |
| The county has jurisdiction over the site of the Town of Burnett has adopted the Counties Hwy. Setback ordinance. | 00:39:22 | |
| The property property is presently being used for A2 family residential use. | 00:39:27 | |
| Physical features of this. | 00:39:32 | |
| .2. | 00:39:33 | |
| 17 acre lot included gentles gently sloping topography with slopes ranging to zero to 6%. | 00:39:35 | |
| Personal contains A2 family residence. | 00:39:42 | |
| General character of the surrounding land use consists of a single. | 00:39:47 | |
| And two family residential structures. | 00:39:51 | |
| There are two existing structures in the surrounding neighborhood. There are other suits. | 00:39:53 | |
| Structures in the surrounding neighborhood with similar Rd. setbacks as the one proposed. | 00:39:58 | |
| With this application. | 00:40:02 | |
| Property includes the following non conforming structure structures or use. | 00:40:04 | |
| Two family residential within the designated St. and Town Road right away set back to both Main and 2nd St. | 00:40:08 | |
| Approximately 4 to 9 feet. | 00:40:15 | |
| To the right of way. | 00:40:17 | |
| On June 6th. | 00:40:18 | |
| An application for as a Dodge County land use permit was made by the appellant. | 00:40:20 | |
| In order they be allowed to construct a 25 by 34 attached garage. This permit was denied by the county's land use Administrator | 00:40:23 | |
| for the following reasons. | 00:40:28 | |
| Subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway Set Back Ordinance. | 00:40:33 | |
| Refer to the required minimum set back. | 00:40:38 | |
| Distances for structures. | 00:40:40 | |
| The parcel in question lies to the northwest. | 00:40:42 | |
| Of the intersection of Main Street and 2nd St. in the town of Burnett. | 00:40:45 | |
| Both roads are classified as designated roads. | 00:40:49 | |
| Which require a minimum set back. | 00:40:52 | |
| 27 feet from the road right away and 60 feet from the center line of the road as proposed. The attached garage lies 24.5 feet. | 00:40:54 | |
| From 2nd Street Rd. right away. | 00:41:03 | |
| And 52 feet from the centerline. | 00:41:06 | |
| Thus proposed the structures 2.5 feet closer than the allowed. | 00:41:10 | |
| Within the road right away. | 00:41:14 | |
| Set back and eight feet closer than the allowed. | 00:41:16 | |
| Then allow it to the center line as. | 00:41:19 | |
| Allowed by the Dodge County. | 00:41:22 | |
| Highway septic ordinance and therefore is prohibited. | 00:41:24 | |
| The appellate is requesting a. | 00:41:27 | |
| Area An area of variances section subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway Set Back ordinance. | 00:41:29 | |
| There's no town response purpose statement. | 00:41:35 | |
| The highway set back provisions of the county highway set back ordinance for board a variety of public. | 00:41:39 | |
| Purposes such as. | 00:41:44 | |
| Providing for light and air Fire Protection. | 00:41:46 | |
| Traffic Safety prevention of overcrowding. | 00:41:49 | |
| Solving drainage problems. | 00:41:52 | |
| Protecting the appearance and character of the neighborhood. | 00:41:53 | |
| And for conserving property values, the highway set back provisions also provide a uniform set back for all structures along roads | 00:41:56 | |
| within the county. | 00:42:01 | |
| In order they provide safe visibility while entering or exiting a site. | 00:42:05 | |
| And to say taxpayers of Dodge County from. | 00:42:10 | |
| Purchasing non conforming structures located within the highway set back lines. | 00:42:13 | |
| Then when those structures need to be removed for the. | 00:42:17 | |
| Highway improvement. | 00:42:20 | |
| Projects. | 00:42:23 | |
| Staff believes that the appellant is requesting an area variance this. | 00:42:25 | |
| To subsection 4.2 in Table 1-1 of the Dodge County Highway Set Back ordinance. | 00:42:28 | |
| Staff points out that the board does not have summary powers to ignore. | 00:42:33 | |
| Ordinance provisions. | 00:42:37 | |
| Or objectives the burden. | 00:42:38 | |
| Also falls on the. | 00:42:40 | |
| Talents who convincingly demonstrate. | 00:42:41 | |
| To this board that a literal enforcement of the. | 00:42:44 | |
| Dodge County set back ordinance. | 00:42:47 | |
| Requires. | 00:42:49 | |
| Regulations would. | 00:42:50 | |
| Resulted in unnecessary hardship. That the hardship is due to special conditions. | 00:42:52 | |
| Unique to the property and if granted. | 00:42:56 | |
| The variance would not be contrary to the public interest. | 00:42:58 | |
| If the board should determine the highway set back provisions of the code are unnecessarily burdensome in this case. | 00:43:01 | |
| The board should also consider the. | 00:43:06 | |
| Cost to the town. | 00:43:08 | |
| And the public. | 00:43:09 | |
| Of having to purchase the structure in the future and wouldn't. | 00:43:10 | |
| If the structure would need to be removed for Hwy. improvement, relocations of variance agreement may be required. | 00:43:16 | |
| By the town of. | 00:43:22 | |
| Thank you. | 00:43:27 | |
| Thank you, Palin. Please step forward. | 00:43:28 | |
| Andy, do you have a? | 00:43:30 | |
| Enough. You're still on the other phone. | 00:43:32 | |
| Who? | 00:43:35 | |
| Brian Steiner. | 00:43:42 | |
| Pardon Brian Steiner. | 00:43:43 | |
| Is there anything you would like to add? | 00:43:46 | |
| Timing to. | 00:43:48 | |
| To the record. | 00:43:51 | |
| I'm sorry. | 00:43:53 | |
| Is there anything? | 00:43:54 | |
| That regarding your request that you would like to add to the record at this no and everything's pretty much. | 00:43:55 | |
| In the in the file in the. | 00:44:01 | |
| What I submitted. | 00:44:05 | |
| I mean, I don't think there's anything else I really need to say. | 00:44:06 | |
| Besides, I would like to build a garage and. | 00:44:10 | |
| Put a couple of vehicles in it. | 00:44:14 | |
| There was already a. | 00:44:19 | |
| Structure there, like I said, if. | 00:44:20 | |
| It's everything's in here. | 00:44:22 | |
| I'm really nothing more to add. | 00:44:23 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in favor of variance request before the board? | 00:44:27 | |
| Please step forward and. | 00:44:33 | |
| State your name for the record. | 00:44:35 | |
| My name is Tim Fletcher. | 00:44:45 | |
| I'm the town chairman. | 00:44:47 | |
| For the town of Burnett and also. | 00:44:49 | |
| Neighboring property owner. | 00:44:52 | |
| And I'm having a hard time understanding. | 00:44:53 | |
| How the? | 00:44:56 | |
| Town or the? | 00:44:58 | |
| County got involved in this when the Town of Burnett issued the man a permit. | 00:44:59 | |
| He started his footings. | 00:45:03 | |
| And all of a sudden. | 00:45:05 | |
| Somebody squeals. | 00:45:06 | |
| That there's a problem. | 00:45:08 | |
| Which we don't see any problem. The town issued the permit. | 00:45:10 | |
| It's not anywhere near. | 00:45:13 | |
| Future road construction. | 00:45:16 | |
| I'm not, I'm just a little bit puzzled at where this problem came in. | 00:45:18 | |
| Thank you. | 00:45:24 | |
| Is that it? That's all I have to say. I mean, I, I got another guy here with me. That's our land use administrator and I think he | 00:45:25 | |
| might want to talk as well. | 00:45:28 | |
| John Peachey. | 00:45:46 | |
| Tony Burnett. | 00:45:47 | |
| Land Use Administrator. | 00:45:48 | |
| This is not an unreasonable request for Mr. Steiner. I would like to go on record. | 00:45:51 | |
| Saying that the town would be in favor of it, and I personally am in favor of it. | 00:45:57 | |
| I looked at some old pictures from the history of Burnett and there was a garage there that he removed 70 years ago and 80 years | 00:46:02 | |
| ago. | 00:46:06 | |
| There was an existing garage. He's about a four year. | 00:46:09 | |
| Resident of our Township. | 00:46:13 | |
| And he's cleaning it up, He's making it nicer, he's trying to make it better. And he's also. | 00:46:15 | |
| Increasing the tax base for the community to. | 00:46:19 | |
| Have an extra pool of resources available from. | 00:46:22 | |
| I can't see where this causes unreasonable hardship for any neighbors. | 00:46:25 | |
| And certainly not for anyone. | 00:46:29 | |
| Beyond. | 00:46:31 | |
| But I also. | 00:46:33 | |
| Would like to know how far short he is from the highway. Set back what? What does he fall short of? | 00:46:35 | |
| That was outlined in the staff report. | 00:46:43 | |
| But I will. I did hear it when I. | 00:46:45 | |
| I just would like to have it here again. | 00:46:48 | |
| Sure. | 00:46:50 | |
| So he is proposing to be 24. | 00:46:51 | |
| .5 feet from the right of way. | 00:46:54 | |
| And. | 00:46:58 | |
| That's about 2 1/2 feet too close to the right of way and also the center line. | 00:47:00 | |
| He is proposing to be 52 feet and he is 8 feet short on that. | 00:47:04 | |
| OK. And if he was a neighbor? | 00:47:09 | |
| Down one to the east. | 00:47:12 | |
| One property down or two properties down? Where are we exempt from? | 00:47:13 | |
| The highway set back, Where does it end? | 00:47:18 | |
| Well, the town of Burnett. | 00:47:21 | |
| Adopted the whole Township. Adopted the whole. | 00:47:23 | |
| Highway set back ordinance. I am aware of that. | 00:47:27 | |
| So there's no really exemption. | 00:47:30 | |
| It's just it goes all the way. | 00:47:33 | |
| To the end of the Township line, you might say correct. | 00:47:35 | |
| OK. So if as they continue to remodel 26. | 00:47:38 | |
| Are you measuring from the center of the highway of 26 or not at all? We measured from the center line and the edge of the right | 00:47:42 | |
| away. | 00:47:45 | |
| So if we continue to expand the highway and make it bigger, there's a center line change from years ago or does it stay the same? | 00:47:49 | |
| I depends on where they put the road. I don't know. | 00:47:56 | |
| But the the right of way if they expand the right away then. | 00:48:00 | |
| That slap back, it's a tool. A dual set back. You have to meet both of them, the centerline and the right of way set back. | 00:48:03 | |
| OK. There's another thing I'd like to call to the Board's attention here tonight. | 00:48:10 | |
| There's 5 land owners. | 00:48:14 | |
| That are right in his neighborhood. He's here about four years. | 00:48:16 | |
| Out of the five, one guy is there about 20 years, but there's three. | 00:48:20 | |
| Relatively new land owners. | 00:48:24 | |
| And everyone seems to like to squabble over lot lines. And they're young, they're first time homeowners in a lot of cases. | 00:48:27 | |
| And there's been a lot of struggles here with lot lines, and I think there's one disgruntled person who called this in. | 00:48:34 | |
| We recently had an instance where in the same. | 00:48:41 | |
| Area we're discussing a central area unit had to get removed. | 00:48:44 | |
| And then it got. | 00:48:48 | |
| Repositioned. | 00:48:49 | |
| Whoever called this in has an axe to grind. | 00:48:52 | |
| And if you make it difficult for him, it'll just be 6 months and they'll be down here again with something else. | 00:48:55 | |
| Please keep that in. | 00:49:00 | |
| Consideration when you guys make your decision tonight, but I believe he's not causing hardship for anyone. | 00:49:02 | |
| And I firmly believe that it's a reasonable request. | 00:49:08 | |
| It's far from unreasonable. | 00:49:11 | |
| Hey, thank you. | 00:49:12 | |
| Anyone else in the audience that would like to speak in? | 00:49:15 | |
| Favor of this variance request. | 00:49:19 | |
| Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak in favor of this variance request? | 00:49:22 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? | 00:49:28 | |
| Is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak? | 00:49:35 | |
| In opposition to this variance request. | 00:49:39 | |
| Is there anyone in attendance that would like to speak in opposition to this variance request? | 00:49:43 | |
| Is there any written we have? | 00:49:49 | |
| OK. Does the board have any questions of the appellant? | 00:49:51 | |
| With the appeal, would like to make a final statement for the record. | 00:49:59 | |
| I just want to say that I'm. | 00:50:02 | |
| Just want to put. | 00:50:06 | |
| A garage back where there was a garage previously. | 00:50:07 | |
| That's all I really wanted to. | 00:50:10 | |
| It would really dress up. | 00:50:13 | |
| It the way it looks if anyone went by him. | 00:50:15 | |
| Looked at the back of the residence, it could really use a little. | 00:50:19 | |
| Polishing up and that's what I want to do by adding. | 00:50:24 | |
| Garage where there was one previously. | 00:50:27 | |
| And by making me. | 00:50:31 | |
| Move it out. | 00:50:33 | |
| Which? | 00:50:34 | |
| They already said I could do but that's. | 00:50:34 | |
| That defeats the purpose of. | 00:50:37 | |
| Putting it adding it to the house where it was already. | 00:50:41 | |
| Just that's all I wanted to do. | 00:50:44 | |
| Put it back was. | 00:50:46 | |
| Thank you. | 00:50:49 | |
| They sent that prepared to close the public hearing. | 00:50:51 | |
| This variance request in. | 00:50:55 | |
| Go to Conclusions of the law. | 00:50:58 | |
| Yeah. | 00:51:02 | |
| The appellant request to subsection 4.2 and Table 1-1, the county's Hwy. set back ordinance. | 00:51:06 | |
| That refer to the set back for public roads. | 00:51:12 | |
| Yes, yes. | 00:51:14 | |
| Is there physical limitation that is unique to this property that prevents the appellant from complying? | 00:51:17 | |
| With the highway set back provisions of the ordinance. | 00:51:22 | |
| Yes. | 00:51:25 | |
| The location of the existing. | 00:51:28 | |
| 22 family building. | 00:51:30 | |
| Are the highway set back provisions of the ordinance unnecessarily burdensome in this case? | 00:51:45 | |
| Thereby creating a hardship. | 00:51:50 | |
| Yes, because yes. | 00:51:52 | |
| The existing building is. | 00:51:54 | |
| Going to be closer than what he's adding on. | 00:51:56 | |
| Does the appellant have other options available to complete this project in compliance with the ordinance? | 00:52:12 | |
| Not to make it attached, no. | 00:52:20 | |
| What hardship exists? The variance is denied. | 00:52:36 | |
| Can't build. | 00:52:39 | |
| Great. | 00:52:41 | |
| Is a project harmful in any way the public's interest? | 00:52:53 | |
| No, no. | 00:52:57 | |
| Does the board have sufficient information to make a decision this request? | 00:53:26 | |
| Does the Board believe the appellants arrange request a highway set back provisions on the ordinance meets the criteria? | 00:53:30 | |
| Is necessary in order to grant the variance request. | 00:53:36 | |
| Yes, yes. | 00:53:39 | |
| So if the Board can make findings other necessary in order to grant the variance request in this case, are any conditions of | 00:53:41 | |
| approval necessary in this case to mitigate any potential adverse impacts? | 00:53:46 | |
| Result from this proposal. | 00:53:52 | |
| Development. | 00:53:54 | |
| Project. | 00:53:55 | |
| No, no, I mean the staff reported, said the town. | 00:53:58 | |
| You know, if the town or Burnett wanted to. | 00:54:01 | |
| The thing but. | 00:54:05 | |
| As we heard from the Chairman, they don't have any. They don't. | 00:54:06 | |
| Feel that's necessary so. | 00:54:09 | |
| I would say no. | 00:54:10 | |
| OK. | 00:54:17 | |
| Area variance, Hwy. set back provisions. | 00:54:19 | |
| Looking for a motion to either approve or deny. | 00:54:22 | |
| The variance request based on the previously mentioned findings and conditions also move. | 00:54:25 | |
| Approved. | 00:54:31 | |
| Second it. | 00:54:33 | |
| Motion is made to approve. | 00:54:41 | |
| To any discussion. | 00:54:43 | |
| If not, I'll call the roll Rodney. | 00:54:48 | |
| Yes. | 00:54:50 | |
| Russell. Yes, Mark. | 00:54:52 | |
| Yes, John, yes. | 00:54:53 | |
| Myself, yes. | 00:54:56 | |
| The result of the vote is. | 00:54:57 | |
| Zero and so. | 00:55:01 | |
| The variances. | 00:55:04 | |
| Granted. Proposed. | 00:55:06 | |
| And the Land Use Administrator is directly as a land use permit incorporated into the. | 00:55:10 | |
| So it's approved. | 00:55:21 | |
| Thank you so much. | 00:55:23 | |
| I appreciate it. | 00:55:25 | |
| In other business, we have two petitions for next month. | 00:55:32 | |
| One in Oak Grove. | 00:55:36 | |
| Which is enough. It's no, it's different. It's, it's an appeal to our. | 00:55:38 | |
| A decision to enforce an ordinance. | 00:55:43 | |
| So. | 00:55:45 | |
| And then the other one is on Fox. | 00:55:46 | |
| So lastly. | 00:55:50 | |
| For the second in Fox Lake. | 00:55:53 | |
| You can't keep a settled around. | 00:55:57 | |
| Shall we adjourn? Just a quick can I have a question? Quicker, certainly. | 00:56:05 | |
| Since Mr. Fletcher is the chairman of Burnett that he didn't seem to understand. | 00:56:10 | |
| You know the counties. | 00:56:15 | |
| Being involved in this. | 00:56:16 | |
| Is there? | 00:56:18 | |
| Way for the. | 00:56:21 | |
| Department to. | 00:56:22 | |
| Get more information to the. | 00:56:26 | |
| Various townships that they would, you know, that they would understand. I mean, you're not. | 00:56:28 | |
| You're not doing something or we're not trying to do something that. | 00:56:32 | |
| Overrides them. It's just it's part of the law and I guess. | 00:56:35 | |
| They adopted that ordinance and and we can certainly run through that stuff with them if if that's what. | 00:56:39 | |
| The fact that he didn't understand what it was seems to be. | 00:56:47 | |
| A little concerning to me. | 00:56:50 | |
| Understood. | 00:56:52 | |
| Otherwise I move to. | 00:56:58 | |
| Second, all in favor? | 00:57:01 | |
| All right. | 00:57:03 | |
| Motion is. | 00:57:04 | |
| Carried meeting is adjourned. | 00:57:05 |