Building Committee Meeting
Transcript
| Order. | 00:00:00 | |
| Roll call Non committee supervisor attendance has been taken. | 00:00:02 | |
| Nobody here from the public that's got any comment. | 00:00:08 | |
| I need the approval of the minutes from the September 4th 2025. | 00:00:12 | |
| Meeting. | 00:00:17 | |
| I'll make a motion to approve. | 00:00:19 | |
| I'll second motion by. | 00:00:20 | |
| Todd, seconded by Jeff. | 00:00:22 | |
| Any additions or corrections to them? | 00:00:25 | |
| Not all in favor say aye. | 00:00:29 | |
| Aye. | 00:00:31 | |
| Aye, opposed. | 00:00:32 | |
| All right, that's carried. | 00:00:34 | |
| On the master plan update. | 00:00:36 | |
| So tomorrow we have our final walkthrough with the engineering staff. | 00:00:39 | |
| The electrical engineer, the plumbing engineer and the HPC engineer. | 00:00:44 | |
| That'll be tomorrow, and the last two buildings they need to look at is the courthouse and the jail. | 00:00:48 | |
| And after that, I believe all their walkthroughs and interviews will be. | 00:00:56 | |
| Pretty much complete. | 00:01:00 | |
| And we just wait for their. | 00:01:03 | |
| Results. | 00:01:04 | |
| OK. | 00:01:05 | |
| A little bit. I talked to him at the conference. He kind of felt comfortable that. | 00:01:08 | |
| They were going to still come. | 00:01:13 | |
| So the October meeting with their. | 00:01:15 | |
| Plan OK. | 00:01:18 | |
| That's what it sounded like, anyhow, So. | 00:01:19 | |
| We'll see. Good. | 00:01:23 | |
| All right, Clearview project update. | 00:01:27 | |
| Bill, you want to show a few pictures? | 00:01:32 | |
| Things are moving along. | 00:01:37 | |
| Up there, the third floor is a little further ahead than the second floor. | 00:01:39 | |
| Wrong one. | 00:01:47 | |
| No doubt that was there nasty. There we go. This is this is the the 2nd floor here they're putting a lot of the. | 00:01:49 | |
| The studs up. | 00:01:55 | |
| Wiring is all going in. They're putting door frames in right now. | 00:01:57 | |
| You can see the blocking in the walls for some of the things that need to be hung on the walls, they're just blocking the mounted | 00:02:07 | |
| into. | 00:02:10 | |
| That happens to be for cabinetry right there. | 00:02:14 | |
| And there you can see that's a nurses station where you have a lower part. | 00:02:19 | |
| That'd be like counter and then there'll be a header up on the top up there. | 00:02:25 | |
| You can see they've already got their. | 00:02:30 | |
| Pieces in for their can lights up there. What's going to hold the can lights in? | 00:02:32 | |
| So that's all moving right along And then next few pictures will be the third floor where they've got a lot of the sheetrock in | 00:02:37 | |
| already. | 00:02:41 | |
| They're getting close to mudding and taping on that portion there. | 00:02:48 | |
| Some of the the batting, you can see some of the batting in the center right there for insulating, for sound insulation for some | 00:02:58 | |
| of the rooms and. | 00:03:01 | |
| So that's all going on. A lot of plumbing stuff up in the ceiling is going on. | 00:03:06 | |
| HVAC work up in the ceilings going on. | 00:03:12 | |
| So a lot of activity, a lot going on. | 00:03:14 | |
| I did not get a picture of it, but they did install the grease interceptor in the ground this week. Also. They dug the hole for | 00:03:19 | |
| that and place that in the ground. | 00:03:23 | |
| So the plumbers are working on getting that hooked in also. | 00:03:27 | |
| For Clearview. | 00:03:30 | |
| Yes. | 00:03:32 | |
| They didn't have one there. | 00:03:32 | |
| I don't know. I do believe they have one for their main kitchen, but this is for these kitchens in the households. Oh, it's a | 00:03:38 | |
| separate. The kitchens in the households did not have one before. | 00:03:42 | |
| I say they they should have, but they did not. | 00:03:47 | |
| I see. | 00:03:52 | |
| I think that was the last one gone. Yes, that's the last picture from there. | 00:03:53 | |
| The construction bulletins have been kind of slow to come out. Catalyst our our construction manager has not been real happy with | 00:03:58 | |
| Angus Young on that there. | 00:04:02 | |
| Has been some discussions on that. | 00:04:07 | |
| And I think. | 00:04:10 | |
| That is going to get. | 00:04:11 | |
| Speed it up here in the very near future because I said there was some unhappiness with. | 00:04:13 | |
| Catalysts being able to keep all the contractors on schedule because they're lacking information from. | 00:04:18 | |
| The architect. | 00:04:24 | |
| So yeah. | 00:04:27 | |
| I will say a catalyst is on top of that and keeping the architect. | 00:04:29 | |
| Going and saying hey we need this information. | 00:04:32 | |
| OK. | 00:04:39 | |
| Now a lot of that stuff, John, and in that remodel job there. | 00:04:41 | |
| They got to have all special stuff for them, people that are in there so they don't get hurt, right. The windows got to be yes, | 00:04:47 | |
| they call it anti ligature, yes yeah. And the walls got to be. | 00:04:52 | |
| Cushion or whatever so. | 00:04:57 | |
| They are only cushioned in what they call a seclusion room. | 00:05:00 | |
| Which would be very similar to our padded cells in the jail. | 00:05:05 | |
| It has the padding on the wall and the door and the floor. | 00:05:08 | |
| So there is a couple seclusion rooms that are being put in. | 00:05:11 | |
| That blue drywall that you saw there, that is a. | 00:05:16 | |
| It has a particular name to it, but it's a very high impact resistant drywall. It's different than regular drywall. | 00:05:20 | |
| So any. | 00:05:26 | |
| Areas for that residents will be in will have that versus. | 00:05:27 | |
| Say like in a laundry room or in a nurses station where you do not have residents, which would be standard drywall. | 00:05:33 | |
| But the blue stuff that you saw there is a high impact resistant drywall. | 00:05:40 | |
| OK, so they're not going to be able to put their fists through it? | 00:05:45 | |
| Well, I'm not gonna guarantee that, but it's it's not gonna crumble and shatter like current conventional drywall. If they do, | 00:05:50 | |
| it's gonna hurt. | 00:05:54 | |
| Yeah, I've been in. | 00:05:59 | |
| I've been a newly remodeled places to in. | 00:06:00 | |
| And I was. | 00:06:03 | |
| I guess. | 00:06:07 | |
| Disappointed a little bit because you would have thought they would have put furniture into that didn't have. | 00:06:08 | |
| Pointed corners on it. Do you know if? | 00:06:13 | |
| Doing that worth like. | 00:06:16 | |
| I believe that was all part of their. I did not read the bid specs on the furniture but I know that there was special anti | 00:06:18 | |
| ligature furniture that was being ordered for this project. | 00:06:23 | |
| So in these behavioral health units you will have that. | 00:06:29 | |
| You know all your rooms are going to have. | 00:06:33 | |
| Those type of fixtures similar to what we have in the jail, you know, where you can't. | 00:06:36 | |
| Put something over the top of it and be able to hang from it or or do things like that. | 00:06:42 | |
| And their furniture will reflect all that also. | 00:06:46 | |
| You know what time, but what type of door handles or knobs or lack thereof, All those things are all. | 00:06:51 | |
| Built into a behavioral health unit like that. | 00:06:56 | |
| It's almost a given when you go to one of those, when you go to one of those places that somebody's got bruises on. | 00:07:00 | |
| From falling into something so. | 00:07:06 | |
| Yeah. | 00:07:09 | |
| All right. Any other questions on that? | 00:07:13 | |
| Why is the third floor so much further ahead? I guess they were able to get in there sooner. | 00:07:16 | |
| It's just the way that they were starting from the third down to the second. | 00:07:20 | |
| Where they scheduled it. | 00:07:24 | |
| Yeah. | 00:07:25 | |
| But yeah, they the. | 00:07:30 | |
| Construction manager really wants to be on target for this end of November. | 00:07:32 | |
| Finish for the first. | 00:07:37 | |
| Substantial completion, I mean, you might have some painting or it's moving some furniture in or stuff in December, but. | 00:07:39 | |
| They would like it. | 00:07:45 | |
| Pretty much completed by the end of November. | 00:07:46 | |
| That is good. Is that what they were anticipating or? | 00:07:50 | |
| What? What is movement date that they want? They do not want to move in until after January 1st. They do not want to move | 00:07:53 | |
| residents right before the holidays. | 00:07:57 | |
| Yeah, OK. And they're on schedule for that, huh? | 00:08:01 | |
| Yes, good. | 00:08:06 | |
| Are they taking applications and stuff? | 00:08:07 | |
| For places in there too, then or. | 00:08:10 | |
| That I don't know. | 00:08:12 | |
| I guess that'd be a question for Ed from Clearview. | 00:08:15 | |
| It's very good. | 00:08:18 | |
| Any other questions? | 00:08:20 | |
| OK, then we'll move on to the tornado damage update. | 00:08:23 | |
| We're still waiting for our light pole replacement in Henry Dodge parking lot. I did reach out to kW Electric today. I did not get | 00:08:27 | |
| a response back from them but. | 00:08:31 | |
| Trying to find out where we're at with that. | 00:08:37 | |
| We did hire Surefire Now to replace the damaged coils on the air conditioner units on the Henry Dodge roof. | 00:08:41 | |
| That feed the CBRF up there. | 00:08:50 | |
| Surefire will be replacing the coils on both of the rooftop units up there. | 00:08:53 | |
| So we got that all arranged this morning. | 00:08:58 | |
| And then? | 00:09:02 | |
| The insurance estimate. | 00:09:06 | |
| Just for repairing our. | 00:09:07 | |
| Chiller on the courthouse roof. | 00:09:09 | |
| Was 39,000 at the insurance company approved. | 00:09:12 | |
| And that money we will get next year and we will apply that to the cost of the new chiller. | 00:09:17 | |
| That you guys approved in the CIP plan for 400,000 for next year, so that 39,000? | 00:09:25 | |
| Will go towards. | 00:09:31 | |
| That. | 00:09:32 | |
| Project. | 00:09:33 | |
| And we will get that once the project is complete. | 00:09:34 | |
| That's that will actually lower the cost of our. | 00:09:37 | |
| Or chiller. That's when we were talking about. | 00:09:40 | |
| Couple meetings ago about might as well get a. | 00:09:43 | |
| Yes. | 00:09:45 | |
| Yeah, nice. | 00:09:46 | |
| So we're it's, it's a little over 39,000 that will get from the insurance company for that one, so. | 00:09:47 | |
| So yeah, I mean you're talking, you know, 10% of the project is going to be covered by the insurance company, so. | 00:09:56 | |
| No. | 00:10:03 | |
| And that's all I got for a tornado. | 00:10:06 | |
| OK. Those coils on the Henry Dodge yet they're replacing, is that covered by some insurance or? Yes, it is. We had originally just | 00:10:09 | |
| looked at the one unit, the one to the West which was damaged more and. | 00:10:16 | |
| When the insurance adjuster sent their people out to look at it, they. | 00:10:24 | |
| Said we should replace. | 00:10:28 | |
| The coils on both units. | 00:10:30 | |
| So the insurance company did approve. | 00:10:32 | |
| That, umm. | 00:10:34 | |
| Good. | 00:10:35 | |
| So give them credit for being honest and being, you know, 4th grade you they could have just looked the other way and done the one | 00:10:38 | |
| and. | 00:10:41 | |
| Older than chillers there that they're. | 00:10:45 | |
| Working on it, a pretty old from. | 00:10:48 | |
| 20. | 00:10:51 | |
| 12 right? | 00:10:53 | |
| But well, well, when it was remodeled to occupy it for a CBRF when we moved Human Services up there. | 00:10:54 | |
| They're about half the life use out of them. 1213 seasons, yes. | 00:11:00 | |
| OK. | 00:11:05 | |
| All right. Any other questions on that? | 00:11:07 | |
| OK. Then we'll move on to the 2526 budget update. | 00:11:13 | |
| I guess there was not too many issues with my budget for next year. I was not asked to cut anything at this point in time yet. | 00:11:21 | |
| That could still happen, but I have not been asked. | 00:11:27 | |
| And being that we are under budget on utilities and also that we did not. | 00:11:30 | |
| Do the window cleaning as we had planned this year. | 00:11:35 | |
| I I was asked to move our carpet replacement project for the Clerk of Courts from next year's budget into this year's budget. | 00:11:40 | |
| Oh, really? | 00:11:47 | |
| Well, so yes, they wanted me to cut. | 00:11:48 | |
| Back on next year's budget and being that we had a surplus. | 00:11:51 | |
| We could do that this year that we have funds available that. | 00:11:55 | |
| We budgeted 47,000 for that carpet replacement. | 00:11:58 | |
| And so with what we're ahead this year, we'll be able to pick that cost up. So that'll just reduce my budget for next year. | 00:12:02 | |
| So that budgeted amount, that includes the carpeting and your labor. Your men labor or not? | 00:12:09 | |
| It includes the carpeting and I'm going to meet with Coakley's, the furniture moving people. I have appointment with them next | 00:12:14 | |
| week to discuss what it's going to. | 00:12:19 | |
| Take for them to take the cubicles down and set them back up. | 00:12:24 | |
| They're much quicker at that stuff than what we are. | 00:12:28 | |
| And we do have a walkthrough on Monday morning at 10:00. | 00:12:32 | |
| For anybody that wants to bid on the carpet project. | 00:12:38 | |
| So it is out there. Trista has put that out on the website for the request for bids on that. | 00:12:43 | |
| Project. | 00:12:48 | |
| Just to back up, John, what did you say you got for insurance for that jail chiller? | 00:12:57 | |
| 3939 thousand for the courthouse, Jody. | 00:13:01 | |
| For the corridor Courthouse Chiller, 39,000. | 00:13:05 | |
| OK. | 00:13:08 | |
| And a new one was going to cost her own. | 00:13:11 | |
| We we budgeted 400,000 in the CIP, so that should cover engineering costs and. | 00:13:14 | |
| Procuring the chiller. | 00:13:22 | |
| OK, very good. | 00:13:24 | |
| Any other questions you guys got at all as far as the budget to actual numbers that you had in your packet there? | 00:13:27 | |
| I thought they all look pretty damn good. I mean. | 00:13:34 | |
| You're falling right in line with the big ticket items. The smaller ones, it's understandable where you. | 00:13:37 | |
| You get way outside but. | 00:13:42 | |
| Yeah, your big ticket ones are all looking pretty damn good, so. | 00:13:44 | |
| All right. Then we'll move on to the facility directors. | 00:13:50 | |
| So under repairs and improvements last month I reported to you guys at the highway is going to be fixing our potholes in the Henry | 00:13:55 | |
| Dodge. | 00:13:58 | |
| You know, they looked at that several months ago and. | 00:14:04 | |
| I still don't have a timeline on when they're repairing them, so I don't know when that's gonna happen. | 00:14:07 | |
| I would hope very soon, but. | 00:14:12 | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | 00:14:14 | |
| So we are still looking to have that done this fall, yet we don't want that to go over the winter again. | 00:14:17 | |
| Our Branch 5 courtroom has now been converted over to LED lighting. | 00:14:23 | |
| And that was the last courtroom that we needed to do that in. So now all 5 courtrooms. | 00:14:28 | |
| Our LED lighting. | 00:14:33 | |
| Nice. | 00:14:35 | |
| Our new steamer that we talked about last month was just installed in the kitchen today. | 00:14:38 | |
| That was jail improvement funds that paid for that. | 00:14:44 | |
| And I think Phil's got a couple of pictures of what the guys. | 00:14:47 | |
| This is a little different than our old one. This has all filtered water that goes into it, so the guys Plumb that all in. | 00:14:52 | |
| Today my guys mounted all that stuff in there. | 00:15:00 | |
| So there you can see how that comes off those lines and feeds into the steamer. | 00:15:05 | |
| There's another one that's the. There's a tempered drain on that. | 00:15:14 | |
| Our drain line was not made for this hot of water that this steamer. | 00:15:20 | |
| Puts down the drain. | 00:15:25 | |
| So we do not have the CPVC piping in the floor. So we have. | 00:15:27 | |
| Bought a tempering kit with this that when it does drain it mixes cold water in with that so it cools it down South. It's the | 00:15:31 | |
| right temperature to go down to PVC drains. | 00:15:36 | |
| OK, good idea. | 00:15:41 | |
| And there you can see it. It's quite a bit smaller than our previous one. Our previous one took up the whole space of that tile | 00:15:45 | |
| flooring right there. | 00:15:49 | |
| It does hold the same number of pans, it's just a whole much smaller footprint than the old one. | 00:15:54 | |
| Very nice. | 00:16:01 | |
| And you can use half on half at a time if you want. | 00:16:03 | |
| Yes, and you can use half at a time and. | 00:16:06 | |
| A lot less moving parts to it. It does not have this big fancy heat exchanger on the side. It doesn't have a lot of electronics. | 00:16:09 | |
| It's much more mechanical. | 00:16:13 | |
| Much simpler to maintain and operate. | 00:16:19 | |
| It looks more durable too. | 00:16:22 | |
| Yes. | 00:16:24 | |
| No, Very nice. | 00:16:26 | |
| So that would be our new steamer. | 00:16:31 | |
| Our Pod H camera project that was also jail improvement funds that is progressing along. | 00:16:34 | |
| They are almost complete with that. | 00:16:41 | |
| They will not be here tomorrow, but they will be back on Monday. | 00:16:44 | |
| To finish aiming the cameras. | 00:16:48 | |
| And doing the the proper focus and zoom in with that and then that project will be done. We will have seven additional cameras in | 00:16:51 | |
| our H pod. | 00:16:55 | |
| Provide much better visibility for the officers. See what's really going on. | 00:17:01 | |
| Get those Henry Dodge pictures. We we do have additional hot water leaks again at Henry Dodge. | 00:17:09 | |
| That's. | 00:17:15 | |
| Yeah. | 00:17:17 | |
| Wow, we got that shut off to this unit. This is a stairwell heating unit right now. | 00:17:18 | |
| You just want to back out just a little bit, Phil, You can see the whole thing that the shut off doesn't really move. The elbows | 00:17:24 | |
| bad, the ****** is bad, the dielectric union up top is bad. | 00:17:29 | |
| And and if you can show the other picture, Phil. | 00:17:38 | |
| This is on the backside. We actually had to cut the concrete block wall out. | 00:17:42 | |
| Because that ****** there coming out of the tea is all wet also. | 00:17:48 | |
| So we're going to have to try to get that all apart and then. | 00:17:52 | |
| Plumb back in with either black iron or. | 00:17:55 | |
| Go with copper pro press fittings or something to get that. | 00:17:59 | |
| Through the wall to the heater on the other side, but we did have to cut a large chunk of concrete block wall out just to get to | 00:18:04 | |
| the piping that was inside there. | 00:18:08 | |
| So that's all black iron piping in there? | 00:18:13 | |
| Yeah, that that's common for heating lines, Black iron pipe, yes. | 00:18:16 | |
| That's all originally, yeah. | 00:18:20 | |
| And I imagine their stuff looking like that all throughout that facility. | 00:18:23 | |
| Oh yeah. | 00:18:27 | |
| Yeah. And you can see the the lovely stuff underneath the insulation there. | 00:18:28 | |
| That is not fiberglass. It's. | 00:18:34 | |
| Something else? | 00:18:36 | |
| Yep, see them are pictures that the whole board should see. | 00:18:37 | |
| Yeah, and then you know what I'm saying. | 00:18:41 | |
| We should have pictures like that for the whole board to see. And then they can also not that particular one. No, no, not that | 00:18:44 | |
| particular one. Just going to say don't think that one. But yeah, I mean, you get the drift that it, I mean, we got to, this is | 00:18:49 | |
| not the first time we've opened up walls just to fix heating pipes or. | 00:18:55 | |
| Regular plumbing pipes and. | 00:19:00 | |
| Now, sooner or later, you get a. | 00:19:03 | |
| Change gears and go a different direction. | 00:19:06 | |
| So I said my staff is working on this, we'll work on it more next week and we'll. | 00:19:10 | |
| Come up with some type of a solution to get this fixed and get that heater back in operation. | 00:19:15 | |
| Is it usually the black iron pipes that are causing leaks or do you have any on the copper? | 00:19:20 | |
| No, it's it's a black iron, black iron, iron or cash or cast iron correct on the waistlines. | 00:19:25 | |
| There's also some galvanized waistlines in there too, like from drinking fountains and sinks and stuff that are rotting out also. | 00:19:33 | |
| Lovely. | 00:19:41 | |
| All right. We just had some water line work done at Henry Dodge. Also, we had three check valves in the boiler room that were | 00:19:44 | |
| failing. These are all on the hot water. | 00:19:49 | |
| System. | 00:19:54 | |
| And we just had those replaced yesterday. | 00:19:55 | |
| One of them was a 2 1/2 inch cast iron check bell about. | 00:20:00 | |
| The size of a volleyball. | 00:20:04 | |
| So they did those. | 00:20:07 | |
| That was 47150 bucks. | 00:20:09 | |
| To have those done. The other ones were big. | 00:20:12 | |
| Copper ones that they put in the other two check valves that had failed. | 00:20:15 | |
| So that is all up and running and that. | 00:20:19 | |
| Also feeds our hot water. | 00:20:21 | |
| System that goes to the CBRF or there is a. | 00:20:24 | |
| A mixing valve and we are not allowed to go over 115° for those residents on that and our. | 00:20:27 | |
| Mixer is not very precise. | 00:20:35 | |
| We do a lot of handbell throttling to try to get it to be where it's supposed to. | 00:20:38 | |
| The last inspection we had it was at 116 and we were allowed 115, so we were 1° over. So they did write that up. | 00:20:45 | |
| Really. | 00:20:52 | |
| Is so. | 00:20:55 | |
| We do have another inspection coming up in October, so we're going to try to have that narrowed down and dialed in a little | 00:20:57 | |
| better. | 00:20:59 | |
| I did allow 15,000 in my budget for next year to put in an electronic mixing valve. We do have one of those in the jail. It is | 00:21:03 | |
| very precise. | 00:21:07 | |
| It stays. | 00:21:11 | |
| Within a degree or two of where you set it. | 00:21:13 | |
| It works much better with an electronic one. It just cycles and floats that valve up and down to. | 00:21:15 | |
| Match the output of what you need. | 00:21:22 | |
| So we're going to. | 00:21:25 | |
| Put that in next year. | 00:21:27 | |
| And hopefully have much better control. | 00:21:29 | |
| For Clearview, we have a lot of bad bearings in motors and pumps and things up there that my guys will be helping with. | 00:21:36 | |
| I do have a whole list of. | 00:21:44 | |
| Ones that we need to look at, we need to get up there and actually. | 00:21:46 | |
| See what bearings and things we need to order, and once we get those in, we'll be sending up. | 00:21:51 | |
| A couple people that help. | 00:21:55 | |
| Their mechanic changed those. | 00:21:57 | |
| They only have one mechanic that is capable of. | 00:22:00 | |
| Doing uh. | 00:22:04 | |
| Bearing changes in pumps and motors and things like that. They do not have gear pullers, they do not have bearing heaters. | 00:22:04 | |
| So that's why we'll be sending our staff up there to assist with that. That's good. | 00:22:12 | |
| Do that work? | 00:22:16 | |
| That's in the heat pumps. | 00:22:18 | |
| It's in air handler motors, it's in pumps, it's it's throughout the whole facility where they have identified some bearings that | 00:22:20 | |
| are noisy and and need to be replaced. | 00:22:24 | |
| So we'll be doing that in the next couple of months. | 00:22:31 | |
| Helping them out with that. | 00:22:33 | |
| Cheaper than replacing the whole thing. | 00:22:36 | |
| It's good you guys can do that stuff. | 00:22:38 | |
| Excuse me, John, are those greaseable bearings that are failing? Are they seal bearings? | 00:22:43 | |
| Do you know? I can't tell you. I have not looked at the motors themselves. | 00:22:47 | |
| So on the. | 00:22:52 | |
| Motors and things that we've been doing in the Geo, we had a mix of precible and non greasable. We've been putting all sealed | 00:22:53 | |
| bearings in. | 00:22:57 | |
| The motors that we've been changing out for the last. | 00:23:02 | |
| 15 years or so we've been using sealed bearings. | 00:23:04 | |
| Do they even make a greasable bearing anymore do that? | 00:23:08 | |
| Just my head is, is there a? | 00:23:13 | |
| PM problem that the bearings are failing if they're greasable and they're not getting greased right? | 00:23:15 | |
| Right. You know that. I can't tell you, man. | 00:23:20 | |
| But we're going to. | 00:23:24 | |
| Try to get them going in the right direction. | 00:23:25 | |
| Good. Our negative air cells in the jail, they have not worked correctly for quite some time. They've been slightly positive and | 00:23:28 | |
| that's not the way we should be. | 00:23:34 | |
| Operating those. | 00:23:40 | |
| And we did have our HVAC contractor take a look at this last month. | 00:23:41 | |
| And he and Phil were able to look at the program and see what was going on. | 00:23:46 | |
| He was able to dig into that program and actually make the changes and now that these are. | 00:23:53 | |
| True negative air cells for people that do have a communicable disease that you want to. | 00:23:59 | |
| Exhaust all that air straight to the outside. | 00:24:04 | |
| So we have got that all up in. | 00:24:07 | |
| Working properly now and that that's just something that Johnson Controls could not do while they had the service contract here, | 00:24:09 | |
| they couldn't get it figured out. | 00:24:13 | |
| So jail is much happier now with. | 00:24:18 | |
| That, yeah. | 00:24:20 | |
| Uh. | 00:24:22 | |
| Last thing under repairs. | 00:24:26 | |
| Our York 400 ton chiller that we had all the issues with getting for over to several years that it took to get it installed. | 00:24:30 | |
| We now have some oil leaks on a compressor. | 00:24:39 | |
| We have a 66 month extended warranty that covers compressor parts and labor. | 00:24:45 | |
| However, Johnson Controls says even though it's on the compressor, it's not part of the compressor and we are not covering it. | 00:24:51 | |
| Even though you need to take part of the compressor apart to change the seal that is leaking the oil. | 00:24:59 | |
| It's not part of the compressor. | 00:25:03 | |
| So I have reached out to Kim and we are going to pursue that on her end because we believe that it should be covered under that | 00:25:06 | |
| warranty and that we shouldn't be paying $7400 or something that's only two years old and has failed. | 00:25:12 | |
| Really. | 00:25:20 | |
| So. | 00:25:23 | |
| And that was the one where they had to block in the line right where it was. Oh yeah, where they had handbell shut off and it took | 00:25:24 | |
| two extra years to get the chiller and. | 00:25:29 | |
| Yes. | 00:25:34 | |
| Wow. See, in Jeff, you said we're going to have troubles with that on your own. | 00:25:35 | |
| You're right. | 00:25:40 | |
| It's just starting. | 00:25:42 | |
| OK, so yes, Kim and I will work with. | 00:25:44 | |
| That and we'll see what we can pursue with Johnson Controls. We just don't think that this should be our responsibility. | 00:25:47 | |
| Yeah, agree. | 00:25:54 | |
| Other than our operations. | 00:25:58 | |
| So we've been doing a lot of escorting of contractors lately. We've had a lot of projects going on in the jail and elsewhere. So | 00:26:01 | |
| once we get. | 00:26:05 | |
| Through with that then we should be able to get. | 00:26:08 | |
| Back to doing more maintenance work than what we've been doing. | 00:26:10 | |
| Lately, but. | 00:26:14 | |
| We'll be back on track here starting next week once this camera project is complete, so. | 00:26:16 | |
| Working on bringing our new lead mechanic up to speed on on how we operate as a department. Teaching him all our. | 00:26:22 | |
| Systems how we do things. Our maintenance software programs, our HVAC software. | 00:26:30 | |
| All that sort of thing. So we're working very hard on getting him up to speed with. | 00:26:36 | |
| All the things he needs to know. | 00:26:41 | |
| So that's going well. | 00:26:43 | |
| Good. | 00:26:45 | |
| Out in the Plaza here, we do have. | 00:26:48 | |
| LED lights at night out there now, OK. | 00:26:51 | |
| The benches are out, the tables are out. Trash receptacles, flower pots, they've all been installed. Everything looks nice. | 00:26:54 | |
| It's very well lit at night. | 00:27:02 | |
| I think it has a really nice look. | 00:27:04 | |
| To it daytime as well as nighttime. | 00:27:05 | |
| It sounds like they are putting their ribbon cutting off till spring. | 00:27:10 | |
| That they're not going to do it this fall anymore, but. | 00:27:15 | |
| I think the whole Plaza does look very nice. | 00:27:18 | |
| For what they've got done out there. | 00:27:20 | |
| So are they still planning on replacing all that concrete or that? Yes. And I don't know if that's going to be this fall or if | 00:27:23 | |
| that's going to be next spring. | 00:27:26 | |
| Also, I don't even know if the city knows yet when they're going to do that, No. | 00:27:31 | |
| But yes, that is. | 00:27:36 | |
| Still planned that that does need to come back out. | 00:27:38 | |
| Well, so. | 00:27:40 | |
| For the most part, it's substantially completed, except for replacing that concrete in. | 00:27:43 | |
| I say everything does look pretty nice out there. | 00:27:47 | |
| And your lawn they worked on 2 or not? | 00:27:49 | |
| They did. They came back and reseeded it, but again, they didn't water it after they receded it, so it didn't really. | 00:27:52 | |
| You know. | 00:27:59 | |
| What can I say, it's a little bit out of my control, but. | 00:28:01 | |
| Did you ever did you ever put a Wi-Fi thing on the roof? | 00:28:08 | |
| We did not yet. | 00:28:11 | |
| Still in the plans or? | 00:28:15 | |
| I haven't talked to Kevin lately about it, but. | 00:28:17 | |
| We can discuss that, yeah. | 00:28:19 | |
| Our HVAC controls contractor, they've been doing additional programming changes at Clearview. Also with the air handlers, it's | 00:28:24 | |
| helped out a lot with their humidity and their other. | 00:28:29 | |
| The building just has a whole different feel to it now that they've been working with the air handlers and doing some programming | 00:28:34 | |
| changes and things are. | 00:28:37 | |
| More comfortable in the building, but. | 00:28:42 | |
| The changes they've been able to make, and again, that's something Johnson Controls, just couldn't get figured out so. | 00:28:44 | |
| Who is the new contractor again? GS Automation out of Rockford. | 00:28:50 | |
| They have an office up here or no? | 00:28:57 | |
| They come out of Rockford, IL. | 00:28:59 | |
| Whenever they Mm-hmm. | 00:29:01 | |
| Well, they have been extremely good to work with, very talented people and they really dig into stuff and. | 00:29:03 | |
| We've had very good results with. | 00:29:12 | |
| Every issue that we've had so far with them that they've been able to figure it out and. | 00:29:14 | |
| Move on to the next thing. | 00:29:18 | |
| Last thing is we've been we will be scheduled to do a lot of painting in the CBRF. | 00:29:24 | |
| Up there, Mary would like all 20 of her rooms repainted. | 00:29:30 | |
| And and they do need it. | 00:29:35 | |
| There's a lot of Dings and stuff in the walls that we need to patch up and repaint. | 00:29:36 | |
| And she has requested one solid. | 00:29:41 | |
| Color for the entire. | 00:29:43 | |
| Facility up there right now there there's multiple colors in different rooms. Some have this color, some have that color, some | 00:29:45 | |
| have two-tone walls and. | 00:29:49 | |
| She said no, we're just going to go with a single color. Let's get it all painted up nice. So we're going to do that. We're going | 00:29:54 | |
| to do a bunch of door frames for. | 00:29:57 | |
| And then also. | 00:30:01 | |
| Those rooms had some freestanding wardrobes when we opened up up there. | 00:30:02 | |
| And. | 00:30:07 | |
| Some of those are really starting to fall apart right now. | 00:30:09 | |
| So what they did is the rooms that they are remodeling at Clearview, they. | 00:30:11 | |
| Disassembled all the built in cabinets that were in those rooms. | 00:30:16 | |
| And we have those all stored in the Henry Dodge building right now. And once we get a room painted, we will take one of those | 00:30:20 | |
| cabinets and reassemble it in each. | 00:30:24 | |
| Room so they had it's going to provide more space. | 00:30:28 | |
| And and a better space than what they had before. | 00:30:31 | |
| So we're going to repurpose all those. | 00:30:34 | |
| Cabinets that they had or wardrobes in those rooms and use them in the CRF. | 00:30:37 | |
| Good, good idea. | 00:30:43 | |
| Yeah, that's all I got for you on that. | 00:30:44 | |
| Good you guys got any future agenda items you want put on the? | 00:30:48 | |
| Next meeting. | 00:30:53 | |
| Thank you, Benny. | 00:30:56 | |
| I was just wondering. | 00:30:58 | |
| Are we going to be taking up a contract with the Minnesota elevator and getting rid of Otis? Is that something? | 00:31:00 | |
| That's still in the works. Yes, we did. We did sign our intent to do that and I actually just got it back from Corp council today | 00:31:05 | |
| to review the the wording in the language of the contract. | 00:31:11 | |
| When when would they take over then? January 1st. | 00:31:18 | |
| Yes. | 00:31:21 | |
| So if we have issues now, is Minnesota going to come in and take care of it? No, we're still in our contract, as old as still. | 00:31:23 | |
| Till December 31st. | 00:31:28 | |
| So if you have an issue, I would assess to take care of it yet. | 00:31:29 | |
| In a timely fashion, hopefully. Yeah, we, we hope so, Yes, we hope so that it doesn't extend past December 31st. | 00:31:34 | |
| But yes, I just did get that this morning from Hannah and Corp council. | 00:31:42 | |
| Good. | 00:31:46 | |
| All right, then we need to determine our next meeting date and time. | 00:31:49 | |
| November 6th right is next, The next Thursday at 4:00. Does that work out for everyone? | 00:31:54 | |
| Good. Yep. | 00:32:02 | |
| All right. Then, I declared a meeting adjourned at 4:32. | 00:32:04 | |
| Thank you all for coming. | 00:32:08 |
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| Order. | 00:00:00 | |
| Roll call Non committee supervisor attendance has been taken. | 00:00:02 | |
| Nobody here from the public that's got any comment. | 00:00:08 | |
| I need the approval of the minutes from the September 4th 2025. | 00:00:12 | |
| Meeting. | 00:00:17 | |
| I'll make a motion to approve. | 00:00:19 | |
| I'll second motion by. | 00:00:20 | |
| Todd, seconded by Jeff. | 00:00:22 | |
| Any additions or corrections to them? | 00:00:25 | |
| Not all in favor say aye. | 00:00:29 | |
| Aye. | 00:00:31 | |
| Aye, opposed. | 00:00:32 | |
| All right, that's carried. | 00:00:34 | |
| On the master plan update. | 00:00:36 | |
| So tomorrow we have our final walkthrough with the engineering staff. | 00:00:39 | |
| The electrical engineer, the plumbing engineer and the HPC engineer. | 00:00:44 | |
| That'll be tomorrow, and the last two buildings they need to look at is the courthouse and the jail. | 00:00:48 | |
| And after that, I believe all their walkthroughs and interviews will be. | 00:00:56 | |
| Pretty much complete. | 00:01:00 | |
| And we just wait for their. | 00:01:03 | |
| Results. | 00:01:04 | |
| OK. | 00:01:05 | |
| A little bit. I talked to him at the conference. He kind of felt comfortable that. | 00:01:08 | |
| They were going to still come. | 00:01:13 | |
| So the October meeting with their. | 00:01:15 | |
| Plan OK. | 00:01:18 | |
| That's what it sounded like, anyhow, So. | 00:01:19 | |
| We'll see. Good. | 00:01:23 | |
| All right, Clearview project update. | 00:01:27 | |
| Bill, you want to show a few pictures? | 00:01:32 | |
| Things are moving along. | 00:01:37 | |
| Up there, the third floor is a little further ahead than the second floor. | 00:01:39 | |
| Wrong one. | 00:01:47 | |
| No doubt that was there nasty. There we go. This is this is the the 2nd floor here they're putting a lot of the. | 00:01:49 | |
| The studs up. | 00:01:55 | |
| Wiring is all going in. They're putting door frames in right now. | 00:01:57 | |
| You can see the blocking in the walls for some of the things that need to be hung on the walls, they're just blocking the mounted | 00:02:07 | |
| into. | 00:02:10 | |
| That happens to be for cabinetry right there. | 00:02:14 | |
| And there you can see that's a nurses station where you have a lower part. | 00:02:19 | |
| That'd be like counter and then there'll be a header up on the top up there. | 00:02:25 | |
| You can see they've already got their. | 00:02:30 | |
| Pieces in for their can lights up there. What's going to hold the can lights in? | 00:02:32 | |
| So that's all moving right along And then next few pictures will be the third floor where they've got a lot of the sheetrock in | 00:02:37 | |
| already. | 00:02:41 | |
| They're getting close to mudding and taping on that portion there. | 00:02:48 | |
| Some of the the batting, you can see some of the batting in the center right there for insulating, for sound insulation for some | 00:02:58 | |
| of the rooms and. | 00:03:01 | |
| So that's all going on. A lot of plumbing stuff up in the ceiling is going on. | 00:03:06 | |
| HVAC work up in the ceilings going on. | 00:03:12 | |
| So a lot of activity, a lot going on. | 00:03:14 | |
| I did not get a picture of it, but they did install the grease interceptor in the ground this week. Also. They dug the hole for | 00:03:19 | |
| that and place that in the ground. | 00:03:23 | |
| So the plumbers are working on getting that hooked in also. | 00:03:27 | |
| For Clearview. | 00:03:30 | |
| Yes. | 00:03:32 | |
| They didn't have one there. | 00:03:32 | |
| I don't know. I do believe they have one for their main kitchen, but this is for these kitchens in the households. Oh, it's a | 00:03:38 | |
| separate. The kitchens in the households did not have one before. | 00:03:42 | |
| I say they they should have, but they did not. | 00:03:47 | |
| I see. | 00:03:52 | |
| I think that was the last one gone. Yes, that's the last picture from there. | 00:03:53 | |
| The construction bulletins have been kind of slow to come out. Catalyst our our construction manager has not been real happy with | 00:03:58 | |
| Angus Young on that there. | 00:04:02 | |
| Has been some discussions on that. | 00:04:07 | |
| And I think. | 00:04:10 | |
| That is going to get. | 00:04:11 | |
| Speed it up here in the very near future because I said there was some unhappiness with. | 00:04:13 | |
| Catalysts being able to keep all the contractors on schedule because they're lacking information from. | 00:04:18 | |
| The architect. | 00:04:24 | |
| So yeah. | 00:04:27 | |
| I will say a catalyst is on top of that and keeping the architect. | 00:04:29 | |
| Going and saying hey we need this information. | 00:04:32 | |
| OK. | 00:04:39 | |
| Now a lot of that stuff, John, and in that remodel job there. | 00:04:41 | |
| They got to have all special stuff for them, people that are in there so they don't get hurt, right. The windows got to be yes, | 00:04:47 | |
| they call it anti ligature, yes yeah. And the walls got to be. | 00:04:52 | |
| Cushion or whatever so. | 00:04:57 | |
| They are only cushioned in what they call a seclusion room. | 00:05:00 | |
| Which would be very similar to our padded cells in the jail. | 00:05:05 | |
| It has the padding on the wall and the door and the floor. | 00:05:08 | |
| So there is a couple seclusion rooms that are being put in. | 00:05:11 | |
| That blue drywall that you saw there, that is a. | 00:05:16 | |
| It has a particular name to it, but it's a very high impact resistant drywall. It's different than regular drywall. | 00:05:20 | |
| So any. | 00:05:26 | |
| Areas for that residents will be in will have that versus. | 00:05:27 | |
| Say like in a laundry room or in a nurses station where you do not have residents, which would be standard drywall. | 00:05:33 | |
| But the blue stuff that you saw there is a high impact resistant drywall. | 00:05:40 | |
| OK, so they're not going to be able to put their fists through it? | 00:05:45 | |
| Well, I'm not gonna guarantee that, but it's it's not gonna crumble and shatter like current conventional drywall. If they do, | 00:05:50 | |
| it's gonna hurt. | 00:05:54 | |
| Yeah, I've been in. | 00:05:59 | |
| I've been a newly remodeled places to in. | 00:06:00 | |
| And I was. | 00:06:03 | |
| I guess. | 00:06:07 | |
| Disappointed a little bit because you would have thought they would have put furniture into that didn't have. | 00:06:08 | |
| Pointed corners on it. Do you know if? | 00:06:13 | |
| Doing that worth like. | 00:06:16 | |
| I believe that was all part of their. I did not read the bid specs on the furniture but I know that there was special anti | 00:06:18 | |
| ligature furniture that was being ordered for this project. | 00:06:23 | |
| So in these behavioral health units you will have that. | 00:06:29 | |
| You know all your rooms are going to have. | 00:06:33 | |
| Those type of fixtures similar to what we have in the jail, you know, where you can't. | 00:06:36 | |
| Put something over the top of it and be able to hang from it or or do things like that. | 00:06:42 | |
| And their furniture will reflect all that also. | 00:06:46 | |
| You know what time, but what type of door handles or knobs or lack thereof, All those things are all. | 00:06:51 | |
| Built into a behavioral health unit like that. | 00:06:56 | |
| It's almost a given when you go to one of those, when you go to one of those places that somebody's got bruises on. | 00:07:00 | |
| From falling into something so. | 00:07:06 | |
| Yeah. | 00:07:09 | |
| All right. Any other questions on that? | 00:07:13 | |
| Why is the third floor so much further ahead? I guess they were able to get in there sooner. | 00:07:16 | |
| It's just the way that they were starting from the third down to the second. | 00:07:20 | |
| Where they scheduled it. | 00:07:24 | |
| Yeah. | 00:07:25 | |
| But yeah, they the. | 00:07:30 | |
| Construction manager really wants to be on target for this end of November. | 00:07:32 | |
| Finish for the first. | 00:07:37 | |
| Substantial completion, I mean, you might have some painting or it's moving some furniture in or stuff in December, but. | 00:07:39 | |
| They would like it. | 00:07:45 | |
| Pretty much completed by the end of November. | 00:07:46 | |
| That is good. Is that what they were anticipating or? | 00:07:50 | |
| What? What is movement date that they want? They do not want to move in until after January 1st. They do not want to move | 00:07:53 | |
| residents right before the holidays. | 00:07:57 | |
| Yeah, OK. And they're on schedule for that, huh? | 00:08:01 | |
| Yes, good. | 00:08:06 | |
| Are they taking applications and stuff? | 00:08:07 | |
| For places in there too, then or. | 00:08:10 | |
| That I don't know. | 00:08:12 | |
| I guess that'd be a question for Ed from Clearview. | 00:08:15 | |
| It's very good. | 00:08:18 | |
| Any other questions? | 00:08:20 | |
| OK, then we'll move on to the tornado damage update. | 00:08:23 | |
| We're still waiting for our light pole replacement in Henry Dodge parking lot. I did reach out to kW Electric today. I did not get | 00:08:27 | |
| a response back from them but. | 00:08:31 | |
| Trying to find out where we're at with that. | 00:08:37 | |
| We did hire Surefire Now to replace the damaged coils on the air conditioner units on the Henry Dodge roof. | 00:08:41 | |
| That feed the CBRF up there. | 00:08:50 | |
| Surefire will be replacing the coils on both of the rooftop units up there. | 00:08:53 | |
| So we got that all arranged this morning. | 00:08:58 | |
| And then? | 00:09:02 | |
| The insurance estimate. | 00:09:06 | |
| Just for repairing our. | 00:09:07 | |
| Chiller on the courthouse roof. | 00:09:09 | |
| Was 39,000 at the insurance company approved. | 00:09:12 | |
| And that money we will get next year and we will apply that to the cost of the new chiller. | 00:09:17 | |
| That you guys approved in the CIP plan for 400,000 for next year, so that 39,000? | 00:09:25 | |
| Will go towards. | 00:09:31 | |
| That. | 00:09:32 | |
| Project. | 00:09:33 | |
| And we will get that once the project is complete. | 00:09:34 | |
| That's that will actually lower the cost of our. | 00:09:37 | |
| Or chiller. That's when we were talking about. | 00:09:40 | |
| Couple meetings ago about might as well get a. | 00:09:43 | |
| Yes. | 00:09:45 | |
| Yeah, nice. | 00:09:46 | |
| So we're it's, it's a little over 39,000 that will get from the insurance company for that one, so. | 00:09:47 | |
| So yeah, I mean you're talking, you know, 10% of the project is going to be covered by the insurance company, so. | 00:09:56 | |
| No. | 00:10:03 | |
| And that's all I got for a tornado. | 00:10:06 | |
| OK. Those coils on the Henry Dodge yet they're replacing, is that covered by some insurance or? Yes, it is. We had originally just | 00:10:09 | |
| looked at the one unit, the one to the West which was damaged more and. | 00:10:16 | |
| When the insurance adjuster sent their people out to look at it, they. | 00:10:24 | |
| Said we should replace. | 00:10:28 | |
| The coils on both units. | 00:10:30 | |
| So the insurance company did approve. | 00:10:32 | |
| That, umm. | 00:10:34 | |
| Good. | 00:10:35 | |
| So give them credit for being honest and being, you know, 4th grade you they could have just looked the other way and done the one | 00:10:38 | |
| and. | 00:10:41 | |
| Older than chillers there that they're. | 00:10:45 | |
| Working on it, a pretty old from. | 00:10:48 | |
| 20. | 00:10:51 | |
| 12 right? | 00:10:53 | |
| But well, well, when it was remodeled to occupy it for a CBRF when we moved Human Services up there. | 00:10:54 | |
| They're about half the life use out of them. 1213 seasons, yes. | 00:11:00 | |
| OK. | 00:11:05 | |
| All right. Any other questions on that? | 00:11:07 | |
| OK. Then we'll move on to the 2526 budget update. | 00:11:13 | |
| I guess there was not too many issues with my budget for next year. I was not asked to cut anything at this point in time yet. | 00:11:21 | |
| That could still happen, but I have not been asked. | 00:11:27 | |
| And being that we are under budget on utilities and also that we did not. | 00:11:30 | |
| Do the window cleaning as we had planned this year. | 00:11:35 | |
| I I was asked to move our carpet replacement project for the Clerk of Courts from next year's budget into this year's budget. | 00:11:40 | |
| Oh, really? | 00:11:47 | |
| Well, so yes, they wanted me to cut. | 00:11:48 | |
| Back on next year's budget and being that we had a surplus. | 00:11:51 | |
| We could do that this year that we have funds available that. | 00:11:55 | |
| We budgeted 47,000 for that carpet replacement. | 00:11:58 | |
| And so with what we're ahead this year, we'll be able to pick that cost up. So that'll just reduce my budget for next year. | 00:12:02 | |
| So that budgeted amount, that includes the carpeting and your labor. Your men labor or not? | 00:12:09 | |
| It includes the carpeting and I'm going to meet with Coakley's, the furniture moving people. I have appointment with them next | 00:12:14 | |
| week to discuss what it's going to. | 00:12:19 | |
| Take for them to take the cubicles down and set them back up. | 00:12:24 | |
| They're much quicker at that stuff than what we are. | 00:12:28 | |
| And we do have a walkthrough on Monday morning at 10:00. | 00:12:32 | |
| For anybody that wants to bid on the carpet project. | 00:12:38 | |
| So it is out there. Trista has put that out on the website for the request for bids on that. | 00:12:43 | |
| Project. | 00:12:48 | |
| Just to back up, John, what did you say you got for insurance for that jail chiller? | 00:12:57 | |
| 3939 thousand for the courthouse, Jody. | 00:13:01 | |
| For the corridor Courthouse Chiller, 39,000. | 00:13:05 | |
| OK. | 00:13:08 | |
| And a new one was going to cost her own. | 00:13:11 | |
| We we budgeted 400,000 in the CIP, so that should cover engineering costs and. | 00:13:14 | |
| Procuring the chiller. | 00:13:22 | |
| OK, very good. | 00:13:24 | |
| Any other questions you guys got at all as far as the budget to actual numbers that you had in your packet there? | 00:13:27 | |
| I thought they all look pretty damn good. I mean. | 00:13:34 | |
| You're falling right in line with the big ticket items. The smaller ones, it's understandable where you. | 00:13:37 | |
| You get way outside but. | 00:13:42 | |
| Yeah, your big ticket ones are all looking pretty damn good, so. | 00:13:44 | |
| All right. Then we'll move on to the facility directors. | 00:13:50 | |
| So under repairs and improvements last month I reported to you guys at the highway is going to be fixing our potholes in the Henry | 00:13:55 | |
| Dodge. | 00:13:58 | |
| You know, they looked at that several months ago and. | 00:14:04 | |
| I still don't have a timeline on when they're repairing them, so I don't know when that's gonna happen. | 00:14:07 | |
| I would hope very soon, but. | 00:14:12 | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | 00:14:14 | |
| So we are still looking to have that done this fall, yet we don't want that to go over the winter again. | 00:14:17 | |
| Our Branch 5 courtroom has now been converted over to LED lighting. | 00:14:23 | |
| And that was the last courtroom that we needed to do that in. So now all 5 courtrooms. | 00:14:28 | |
| Our LED lighting. | 00:14:33 | |
| Nice. | 00:14:35 | |
| Our new steamer that we talked about last month was just installed in the kitchen today. | 00:14:38 | |
| That was jail improvement funds that paid for that. | 00:14:44 | |
| And I think Phil's got a couple of pictures of what the guys. | 00:14:47 | |
| This is a little different than our old one. This has all filtered water that goes into it, so the guys Plumb that all in. | 00:14:52 | |
| Today my guys mounted all that stuff in there. | 00:15:00 | |
| So there you can see how that comes off those lines and feeds into the steamer. | 00:15:05 | |
| There's another one that's the. There's a tempered drain on that. | 00:15:14 | |
| Our drain line was not made for this hot of water that this steamer. | 00:15:20 | |
| Puts down the drain. | 00:15:25 | |
| So we do not have the CPVC piping in the floor. So we have. | 00:15:27 | |
| Bought a tempering kit with this that when it does drain it mixes cold water in with that so it cools it down South. It's the | 00:15:31 | |
| right temperature to go down to PVC drains. | 00:15:36 | |
| OK, good idea. | 00:15:41 | |
| And there you can see it. It's quite a bit smaller than our previous one. Our previous one took up the whole space of that tile | 00:15:45 | |
| flooring right there. | 00:15:49 | |
| It does hold the same number of pans, it's just a whole much smaller footprint than the old one. | 00:15:54 | |
| Very nice. | 00:16:01 | |
| And you can use half on half at a time if you want. | 00:16:03 | |
| Yes, and you can use half at a time and. | 00:16:06 | |
| A lot less moving parts to it. It does not have this big fancy heat exchanger on the side. It doesn't have a lot of electronics. | 00:16:09 | |
| It's much more mechanical. | 00:16:13 | |
| Much simpler to maintain and operate. | 00:16:19 | |
| It looks more durable too. | 00:16:22 | |
| Yes. | 00:16:24 | |
| No, Very nice. | 00:16:26 | |
| So that would be our new steamer. | 00:16:31 | |
| Our Pod H camera project that was also jail improvement funds that is progressing along. | 00:16:34 | |
| They are almost complete with that. | 00:16:41 | |
| They will not be here tomorrow, but they will be back on Monday. | 00:16:44 | |
| To finish aiming the cameras. | 00:16:48 | |
| And doing the the proper focus and zoom in with that and then that project will be done. We will have seven additional cameras in | 00:16:51 | |
| our H pod. | 00:16:55 | |
| Provide much better visibility for the officers. See what's really going on. | 00:17:01 | |
| Get those Henry Dodge pictures. We we do have additional hot water leaks again at Henry Dodge. | 00:17:09 | |
| That's. | 00:17:15 | |
| Yeah. | 00:17:17 | |
| Wow, we got that shut off to this unit. This is a stairwell heating unit right now. | 00:17:18 | |
| You just want to back out just a little bit, Phil, You can see the whole thing that the shut off doesn't really move. The elbows | 00:17:24 | |
| bad, the ****** is bad, the dielectric union up top is bad. | 00:17:29 | |
| And and if you can show the other picture, Phil. | 00:17:38 | |
| This is on the backside. We actually had to cut the concrete block wall out. | 00:17:42 | |
| Because that ****** there coming out of the tea is all wet also. | 00:17:48 | |
| So we're going to have to try to get that all apart and then. | 00:17:52 | |
| Plumb back in with either black iron or. | 00:17:55 | |
| Go with copper pro press fittings or something to get that. | 00:17:59 | |
| Through the wall to the heater on the other side, but we did have to cut a large chunk of concrete block wall out just to get to | 00:18:04 | |
| the piping that was inside there. | 00:18:08 | |
| So that's all black iron piping in there? | 00:18:13 | |
| Yeah, that that's common for heating lines, Black iron pipe, yes. | 00:18:16 | |
| That's all originally, yeah. | 00:18:20 | |
| And I imagine their stuff looking like that all throughout that facility. | 00:18:23 | |
| Oh yeah. | 00:18:27 | |
| Yeah. And you can see the the lovely stuff underneath the insulation there. | 00:18:28 | |
| That is not fiberglass. It's. | 00:18:34 | |
| Something else? | 00:18:36 | |
| Yep, see them are pictures that the whole board should see. | 00:18:37 | |
| Yeah, and then you know what I'm saying. | 00:18:41 | |
| We should have pictures like that for the whole board to see. And then they can also not that particular one. No, no, not that | 00:18:44 | |
| particular one. Just going to say don't think that one. But yeah, I mean, you get the drift that it, I mean, we got to, this is | 00:18:49 | |
| not the first time we've opened up walls just to fix heating pipes or. | 00:18:55 | |
| Regular plumbing pipes and. | 00:19:00 | |
| Now, sooner or later, you get a. | 00:19:03 | |
| Change gears and go a different direction. | 00:19:06 | |
| So I said my staff is working on this, we'll work on it more next week and we'll. | 00:19:10 | |
| Come up with some type of a solution to get this fixed and get that heater back in operation. | 00:19:15 | |
| Is it usually the black iron pipes that are causing leaks or do you have any on the copper? | 00:19:20 | |
| No, it's it's a black iron, black iron, iron or cash or cast iron correct on the waistlines. | 00:19:25 | |
| There's also some galvanized waistlines in there too, like from drinking fountains and sinks and stuff that are rotting out also. | 00:19:33 | |
| Lovely. | 00:19:41 | |
| All right. We just had some water line work done at Henry Dodge. Also, we had three check valves in the boiler room that were | 00:19:44 | |
| failing. These are all on the hot water. | 00:19:49 | |
| System. | 00:19:54 | |
| And we just had those replaced yesterday. | 00:19:55 | |
| One of them was a 2 1/2 inch cast iron check bell about. | 00:20:00 | |
| The size of a volleyball. | 00:20:04 | |
| So they did those. | 00:20:07 | |
| That was 47150 bucks. | 00:20:09 | |
| To have those done. The other ones were big. | 00:20:12 | |
| Copper ones that they put in the other two check valves that had failed. | 00:20:15 | |
| So that is all up and running and that. | 00:20:19 | |
| Also feeds our hot water. | 00:20:21 | |
| System that goes to the CBRF or there is a. | 00:20:24 | |
| A mixing valve and we are not allowed to go over 115° for those residents on that and our. | 00:20:27 | |
| Mixer is not very precise. | 00:20:35 | |
| We do a lot of handbell throttling to try to get it to be where it's supposed to. | 00:20:38 | |
| The last inspection we had it was at 116 and we were allowed 115, so we were 1° over. So they did write that up. | 00:20:45 | |
| Really. | 00:20:52 | |
| Is so. | 00:20:55 | |
| We do have another inspection coming up in October, so we're going to try to have that narrowed down and dialed in a little | 00:20:57 | |
| better. | 00:20:59 | |
| I did allow 15,000 in my budget for next year to put in an electronic mixing valve. We do have one of those in the jail. It is | 00:21:03 | |
| very precise. | 00:21:07 | |
| It stays. | 00:21:11 | |
| Within a degree or two of where you set it. | 00:21:13 | |
| It works much better with an electronic one. It just cycles and floats that valve up and down to. | 00:21:15 | |
| Match the output of what you need. | 00:21:22 | |
| So we're going to. | 00:21:25 | |
| Put that in next year. | 00:21:27 | |
| And hopefully have much better control. | 00:21:29 | |
| For Clearview, we have a lot of bad bearings in motors and pumps and things up there that my guys will be helping with. | 00:21:36 | |
| I do have a whole list of. | 00:21:44 | |
| Ones that we need to look at, we need to get up there and actually. | 00:21:46 | |
| See what bearings and things we need to order, and once we get those in, we'll be sending up. | 00:21:51 | |
| A couple people that help. | 00:21:55 | |
| Their mechanic changed those. | 00:21:57 | |
| They only have one mechanic that is capable of. | 00:22:00 | |
| Doing uh. | 00:22:04 | |
| Bearing changes in pumps and motors and things like that. They do not have gear pullers, they do not have bearing heaters. | 00:22:04 | |
| So that's why we'll be sending our staff up there to assist with that. That's good. | 00:22:12 | |
| Do that work? | 00:22:16 | |
| That's in the heat pumps. | 00:22:18 | |
| It's in air handler motors, it's in pumps, it's it's throughout the whole facility where they have identified some bearings that | 00:22:20 | |
| are noisy and and need to be replaced. | 00:22:24 | |
| So we'll be doing that in the next couple of months. | 00:22:31 | |
| Helping them out with that. | 00:22:33 | |
| Cheaper than replacing the whole thing. | 00:22:36 | |
| It's good you guys can do that stuff. | 00:22:38 | |
| Excuse me, John, are those greaseable bearings that are failing? Are they seal bearings? | 00:22:43 | |
| Do you know? I can't tell you. I have not looked at the motors themselves. | 00:22:47 | |
| So on the. | 00:22:52 | |
| Motors and things that we've been doing in the Geo, we had a mix of precible and non greasable. We've been putting all sealed | 00:22:53 | |
| bearings in. | 00:22:57 | |
| The motors that we've been changing out for the last. | 00:23:02 | |
| 15 years or so we've been using sealed bearings. | 00:23:04 | |
| Do they even make a greasable bearing anymore do that? | 00:23:08 | |
| Just my head is, is there a? | 00:23:13 | |
| PM problem that the bearings are failing if they're greasable and they're not getting greased right? | 00:23:15 | |
| Right. You know that. I can't tell you, man. | 00:23:20 | |
| But we're going to. | 00:23:24 | |
| Try to get them going in the right direction. | 00:23:25 | |
| Good. Our negative air cells in the jail, they have not worked correctly for quite some time. They've been slightly positive and | 00:23:28 | |
| that's not the way we should be. | 00:23:34 | |
| Operating those. | 00:23:40 | |
| And we did have our HVAC contractor take a look at this last month. | 00:23:41 | |
| And he and Phil were able to look at the program and see what was going on. | 00:23:46 | |
| He was able to dig into that program and actually make the changes and now that these are. | 00:23:53 | |
| True negative air cells for people that do have a communicable disease that you want to. | 00:23:59 | |
| Exhaust all that air straight to the outside. | 00:24:04 | |
| So we have got that all up in. | 00:24:07 | |
| Working properly now and that that's just something that Johnson Controls could not do while they had the service contract here, | 00:24:09 | |
| they couldn't get it figured out. | 00:24:13 | |
| So jail is much happier now with. | 00:24:18 | |
| That, yeah. | 00:24:20 | |
| Uh. | 00:24:22 | |
| Last thing under repairs. | 00:24:26 | |
| Our York 400 ton chiller that we had all the issues with getting for over to several years that it took to get it installed. | 00:24:30 | |
| We now have some oil leaks on a compressor. | 00:24:39 | |
| We have a 66 month extended warranty that covers compressor parts and labor. | 00:24:45 | |
| However, Johnson Controls says even though it's on the compressor, it's not part of the compressor and we are not covering it. | 00:24:51 | |
| Even though you need to take part of the compressor apart to change the seal that is leaking the oil. | 00:24:59 | |
| It's not part of the compressor. | 00:25:03 | |
| So I have reached out to Kim and we are going to pursue that on her end because we believe that it should be covered under that | 00:25:06 | |
| warranty and that we shouldn't be paying $7400 or something that's only two years old and has failed. | 00:25:12 | |
| Really. | 00:25:20 | |
| So. | 00:25:23 | |
| And that was the one where they had to block in the line right where it was. Oh yeah, where they had handbell shut off and it took | 00:25:24 | |
| two extra years to get the chiller and. | 00:25:29 | |
| Yes. | 00:25:34 | |
| Wow. See, in Jeff, you said we're going to have troubles with that on your own. | 00:25:35 | |
| You're right. | 00:25:40 | |
| It's just starting. | 00:25:42 | |
| OK, so yes, Kim and I will work with. | 00:25:44 | |
| That and we'll see what we can pursue with Johnson Controls. We just don't think that this should be our responsibility. | 00:25:47 | |
| Yeah, agree. | 00:25:54 | |
| Other than our operations. | 00:25:58 | |
| So we've been doing a lot of escorting of contractors lately. We've had a lot of projects going on in the jail and elsewhere. So | 00:26:01 | |
| once we get. | 00:26:05 | |
| Through with that then we should be able to get. | 00:26:08 | |
| Back to doing more maintenance work than what we've been doing. | 00:26:10 | |
| Lately, but. | 00:26:14 | |
| We'll be back on track here starting next week once this camera project is complete, so. | 00:26:16 | |
| Working on bringing our new lead mechanic up to speed on on how we operate as a department. Teaching him all our. | 00:26:22 | |
| Systems how we do things. Our maintenance software programs, our HVAC software. | 00:26:30 | |
| All that sort of thing. So we're working very hard on getting him up to speed with. | 00:26:36 | |
| All the things he needs to know. | 00:26:41 | |
| So that's going well. | 00:26:43 | |
| Good. | 00:26:45 | |
| Out in the Plaza here, we do have. | 00:26:48 | |
| LED lights at night out there now, OK. | 00:26:51 | |
| The benches are out, the tables are out. Trash receptacles, flower pots, they've all been installed. Everything looks nice. | 00:26:54 | |
| It's very well lit at night. | 00:27:02 | |
| I think it has a really nice look. | 00:27:04 | |
| To it daytime as well as nighttime. | 00:27:05 | |
| It sounds like they are putting their ribbon cutting off till spring. | 00:27:10 | |
| That they're not going to do it this fall anymore, but. | 00:27:15 | |
| I think the whole Plaza does look very nice. | 00:27:18 | |
| For what they've got done out there. | 00:27:20 | |
| So are they still planning on replacing all that concrete or that? Yes. And I don't know if that's going to be this fall or if | 00:27:23 | |
| that's going to be next spring. | 00:27:26 | |
| Also, I don't even know if the city knows yet when they're going to do that, No. | 00:27:31 | |
| But yes, that is. | 00:27:36 | |
| Still planned that that does need to come back out. | 00:27:38 | |
| Well, so. | 00:27:40 | |
| For the most part, it's substantially completed, except for replacing that concrete in. | 00:27:43 | |
| I say everything does look pretty nice out there. | 00:27:47 | |
| And your lawn they worked on 2 or not? | 00:27:49 | |
| They did. They came back and reseeded it, but again, they didn't water it after they receded it, so it didn't really. | 00:27:52 | |
| You know. | 00:27:59 | |
| What can I say, it's a little bit out of my control, but. | 00:28:01 | |
| Did you ever did you ever put a Wi-Fi thing on the roof? | 00:28:08 | |
| We did not yet. | 00:28:11 | |
| Still in the plans or? | 00:28:15 | |
| I haven't talked to Kevin lately about it, but. | 00:28:17 | |
| We can discuss that, yeah. | 00:28:19 | |
| Our HVAC controls contractor, they've been doing additional programming changes at Clearview. Also with the air handlers, it's | 00:28:24 | |
| helped out a lot with their humidity and their other. | 00:28:29 | |
| The building just has a whole different feel to it now that they've been working with the air handlers and doing some programming | 00:28:34 | |
| changes and things are. | 00:28:37 | |
| More comfortable in the building, but. | 00:28:42 | |
| The changes they've been able to make, and again, that's something Johnson Controls, just couldn't get figured out so. | 00:28:44 | |
| Who is the new contractor again? GS Automation out of Rockford. | 00:28:50 | |
| They have an office up here or no? | 00:28:57 | |
| They come out of Rockford, IL. | 00:28:59 | |
| Whenever they Mm-hmm. | 00:29:01 | |
| Well, they have been extremely good to work with, very talented people and they really dig into stuff and. | 00:29:03 | |
| We've had very good results with. | 00:29:12 | |
| Every issue that we've had so far with them that they've been able to figure it out and. | 00:29:14 | |
| Move on to the next thing. | 00:29:18 | |
| Last thing is we've been we will be scheduled to do a lot of painting in the CBRF. | 00:29:24 | |
| Up there, Mary would like all 20 of her rooms repainted. | 00:29:30 | |
| And and they do need it. | 00:29:35 | |
| There's a lot of Dings and stuff in the walls that we need to patch up and repaint. | 00:29:36 | |
| And she has requested one solid. | 00:29:41 | |
| Color for the entire. | 00:29:43 | |
| Facility up there right now there there's multiple colors in different rooms. Some have this color, some have that color, some | 00:29:45 | |
| have two-tone walls and. | 00:29:49 | |
| She said no, we're just going to go with a single color. Let's get it all painted up nice. So we're going to do that. We're going | 00:29:54 | |
| to do a bunch of door frames for. | 00:29:57 | |
| And then also. | 00:30:01 | |
| Those rooms had some freestanding wardrobes when we opened up up there. | 00:30:02 | |
| And. | 00:30:07 | |
| Some of those are really starting to fall apart right now. | 00:30:09 | |
| So what they did is the rooms that they are remodeling at Clearview, they. | 00:30:11 | |
| Disassembled all the built in cabinets that were in those rooms. | 00:30:16 | |
| And we have those all stored in the Henry Dodge building right now. And once we get a room painted, we will take one of those | 00:30:20 | |
| cabinets and reassemble it in each. | 00:30:24 | |
| Room so they had it's going to provide more space. | 00:30:28 | |
| And and a better space than what they had before. | 00:30:31 | |
| So we're going to repurpose all those. | 00:30:34 | |
| Cabinets that they had or wardrobes in those rooms and use them in the CRF. | 00:30:37 | |
| Good, good idea. | 00:30:43 | |
| Yeah, that's all I got for you on that. | 00:30:44 | |
| Good you guys got any future agenda items you want put on the? | 00:30:48 | |
| Next meeting. | 00:30:53 | |
| Thank you, Benny. | 00:30:56 | |
| I was just wondering. | 00:30:58 | |
| Are we going to be taking up a contract with the Minnesota elevator and getting rid of Otis? Is that something? | 00:31:00 | |
| That's still in the works. Yes, we did. We did sign our intent to do that and I actually just got it back from Corp council today | 00:31:05 | |
| to review the the wording in the language of the contract. | 00:31:11 | |
| When when would they take over then? January 1st. | 00:31:18 | |
| Yes. | 00:31:21 | |
| So if we have issues now, is Minnesota going to come in and take care of it? No, we're still in our contract, as old as still. | 00:31:23 | |
| Till December 31st. | 00:31:28 | |
| So if you have an issue, I would assess to take care of it yet. | 00:31:29 | |
| In a timely fashion, hopefully. Yeah, we, we hope so, Yes, we hope so that it doesn't extend past December 31st. | 00:31:34 | |
| But yes, I just did get that this morning from Hannah and Corp council. | 00:31:42 | |
| Good. | 00:31:46 | |
| All right, then we need to determine our next meeting date and time. | 00:31:49 | |
| November 6th right is next, The next Thursday at 4:00. Does that work out for everyone? | 00:31:54 | |
| Good. Yep. | 00:32:02 | |
| All right. Then, I declared a meeting adjourned at 4:32. | 00:32:04 | |
| Thank you all for coming. | 00:32:08 |