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	Call the Building Committee meeting to order.	00:00:00
	Roll call Non committee supervisor attendance has been taken.	00:00:03
	We have no public comment here tonight.	00:00:08
	The approval of the minutes from the July 10th, 2025.	00:00:11
	So moved motion by Supervisor Kane. Seconded by Supervisor Coffell.	00:00:16
	Any corrections or additions to it?	00:00:22
	Not all in favor say aye.	00:00:26
	Aye, opposed.	00:00:28
	All right, that's carried.	00:00:29
	The master plan update.	00:00:32
	We have Brad.	00:00:34
	Kwasni from Venture here.	00:00:36
	To give us an update on where we're at, Bretton have a seat at the microphone and.	00:00:38
	Alright, well, so far we've met with.	00:00:46
	Every department head.	00:00:50
	And I believe we've toured every.	00:00:52
	Facility.	00:00:55
	Including all the highway facilities.	00:00:57
	We're gathering data.	00:00:59
	We've we've discussed.	00:01:03
	You know what works well, what doesn't work well?	00:01:05
	How places? How spaces should work?	00:01:08
	Just really in the.	00:01:12
	Collection phase and now we're.	00:01:13
	Coming up with ideas for.	00:01:15
	Where to go with it?	00:01:18
	Yeah.	00:01:19
	Coming up with options for you.	00:01:21
	OK.	00:01:23
	When do you think you'll have the final?	00:01:29
	Documents ready.	00:01:31
	Well, I know we're we're starting to look at pulling things together.	00:01:35
	You know, we've been, we've got one of the guys back at the office.	00:01:41
	Working up all the different square footages in all the departments. So it's.	00:01:45
	The ball is rolling now.	00:01:48
	I would think.	00:01:52
	Probably. Were we talking next month?	00:01:53
	Having something to show.	00:01:56
	Initially thinking like towards the end of September he might, I don't know if it'll be for September's board meeting or not, but	00:01:57
	he was thinking later in September that they would have.	00:02:01
	A plan down.	00:02:06
	I just curious that was still the timeline or if you know as and Corey will be at the August board meeting?	00:02:08
	Oh, you will. OK, that you guys have further questions, Cory will be?	00:02:16
	At that, OK.	00:02:20
	Good. So yeah, we just did finish up last Friday with the last three highway shops that we needed to go to.	00:02:22
	And we also did some extensive touring in the jail for some projects that the sheriff.	00:02:29
	Would like to see for some upgrades in the jail.	00:02:35
	So that was completed then and.	00:02:38
	That I really do think that so far the interviews and all that have gone real well. There's been a lot of looking at at.	00:02:42
	Spaces that are.	00:02:48
	Underutilized. Over utilized.	00:02:49
	I think we've probably met with most.	00:02:54
	Departments twice.	00:02:56
	So we've got.	00:02:59
	Had several.	00:03:01
	Walkthroughs sit down conversations. So we've we've gone through everything and given everyone.	00:03:03
	A couple cracks at.	00:03:08
	You know, a lot of times when you talk to somebody the first time.	00:03:09
	They kind of go.	00:03:12
	Oh, I didn't think of that. I didn't think of that. So right, we've grown back and talked with everyone a second time.	00:03:14
	Now that's good.	00:03:19
	Yeah, because usually when you leave, then they think, oh, I should ask them this. I should ask them that, you know. And as things	00:03:20
	pop up, they. They.	00:03:24
	Get, you know, send John an e-mail and he forwards it on. So we've been collecting a lot of stuff.	00:03:27
	Now you've done.	00:03:32
	Space studies before, right?	00:03:33
	Yes for other.	00:03:35
	Other places.	00:03:36
	Yep. Does anything stick out on this one that shocks you or?	00:03:37
	Compared to other ones, yeah.	00:03:43
	As far as?	00:03:47
	Available space not being used.	00:03:48
	You know in certain areas, right?	00:03:53
	All right. Certain areas there is a lot of space.	00:03:56
	Other areas are.	00:03:59
	You know, uh.	00:04:01
	They're overflowing, but there's a lot of spaces.	00:04:02
	With room to expand.	00:04:05
	A lot of times when you go through the first time, the first thought in your head is.	00:04:09
	This place has outlived its life.	00:04:14
	You know, there's just.	00:04:17
	There's too many people, there's too much stuff going on. It can't be done.	00:04:19
	Here.	00:04:22
	Preliminarily.	00:04:25
	We're thinking that.	00:04:27
	You know, there could be some renovations done that could.	00:04:29
	Make things much more efficient here.	00:04:33
	But we're just starting to look at all. Yeah, yeah. That's why I'm curious to see what what your outcome is on this is. And	00:04:35
	especially I think most of the supervisors are curious to see what the outcome is with the Henry Dodge building over there.	00:04:42
	Because that's what got most that has started.	00:04:49
	Is that aging building out there? And we're looking at sticking millions of dollars into it.	00:04:53
	And, umm.	00:04:59
	You know, umm.	00:05:00
	I would say that that building.	00:05:01
	This building are two entirely different stories.	00:05:03
	Yeah, umm.	00:05:06
	Yeah.	00:05:08
	Well, that's good. I think this is going to be money well spent.	00:05:10
	By the colony.	00:05:14
	And.	00:05:15
	Like some people said, you should really have a 20 year outlook.	00:05:17
	On your buildings.	00:05:21
	You know you shouldn't look at them.	00:05:22
	One year to the next, you should have a vision for what that should be down the road.	00:05:24
	And that's kind of why we went.	00:05:29
	This route.	00:05:31
	So.	00:05:33
	OK. I guess I don't have any other questions other than we were just curious when when you were going to have to report together?	00:05:36
	But you know, September, October, it doesn't matter. I mean, another month isn't gonna.	00:05:43
	Make a difference.	00:05:49
	Yeah, now, now we're.	00:05:50
	Pretty much getting to the point where it's.	00:05:52
	We're done collecting data or.	00:05:54
	It'll be just a little piece here in a little piece there that we're.	00:05:57
	We need to.	00:06:00
	Review.	00:06:02
	You know, we're taking all of our notes and compiling them and we might see.	00:06:03
	Like conflicting notes.	00:06:07
	So we might need.	00:06:08
	Just a.	00:06:10
	Verify some things.	00:06:10
	You know, we're going to start moving pieces around and looking at it as far as adjacencies.	00:06:13
	You know this department needs to be adjacent to this one because they work with them a lot. Don't need to be next to that one.	00:06:19
	And just.	00:06:25
	It's now. It's the time where we just put our head down.	00:06:26
	Work right?	00:06:29
	That's good. I'm glad you're looking at that because I just found out the other day that.	00:06:30
	One of the departments over in the courthouse moved over here and it was one that I think was childcare or something like that	00:06:35
	moved over here.	00:06:39
	And they work a lot with childcare. And it's like, well, why would you separate them out at a courthouse building?	00:06:43
	It was just a child support attorney.	00:06:49
	Child support attorney, OK.	00:06:52
	Yes.	00:06:54
	And I was just curious why they move them over here when?	00:06:55
	That I can't tell you, I know, I know, but I'm glad you guys are looking at all that stuff so that, you know, you can keep the	00:06:58
	departments together that are working together and that and I know that was Becky Bells.	00:07:04
	Biggest concern was not splitting them up over there because.	00:07:10
	They all work together and.	00:07:14
	People come in and they want to see, you know, they don't have to run at this building or that building.	00:07:16
	It's all in one spot, you know, frequently when people come in.	00:07:21
	And it's not just here, it's it's counties everywhere.	00:07:25
	They often need to.	00:07:29
	Speak to this department.	00:07:30
	And then this other department.	00:07:32
	And you know, they just work closely together. So we try and cluster things together. It's good, so.	00:07:34
	That's that's real good.	00:07:38
	Well, thank you very much for coming. I have no other questions for you. One question yet. Yep. I assume the sheriff is still	00:07:42
	lobbying for a new Sheriff's Office next to the jail.	00:07:47
	Was that feedback you got from talking to that department or?	00:07:53
	No, not necessarily.	00:07:58
	We just, we just walked through.	00:08:00
	With everyone and just say what works and what doesn't and we just.	00:08:03
	Tour the space and then.	00:08:07
	We just assess.	00:08:09
	You know, where are they? Where is their overcrowding? Where things?	00:08:10
	That don't work. Where can you maybe expand some things?	00:08:15
	So, so I wouldn't say that he.	00:08:20
	Was pushing for a new.	00:08:21
	OK, Office.	00:08:23
	But no.	00:08:25
	Because he did when he was here. Yeah, I know.	00:08:28
	And I made the mistake over speaking, so I shut my mouth and apologized all this supervisors for saying what I shouldn't have	00:08:32
	said. The Sheriff's Department definitely has some special needs and some serious storage needs.	00:08:39
	Whether that can be handled through renovation or if they really need new space.	00:08:47
	German now.	00:08:52
	No.	00:08:53
	And yeah, they need a.	00:08:57
	I knew what is the evidence?	00:08:58
	Evidence base and.	00:09:00
	Evidence is one of the big things over there that it's not.	00:09:02
	Environmentally controlled correctly and and we just did run some emergency power into there because when we had the tornado.	00:09:06
	Their freezers and refrigerators were not on emergency circuits and.	00:09:13
	So yeah, there there's some issues with the evidence storage area there not being large enough, not being environmentally	00:09:18
	controlled.	00:09:22
	That sort of thing.	00:09:27
	Anybody.	00:09:34
	Anybody else got any questions for Brad?	00:09:34
	Well, Brad, I think it for coming tonight. Appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate all you're doing looking forward on this project come	00:09:37
	up with yes, yes.	00:09:41
	Hopefully you're happy once you see it. Well, yeah, anytime you're spending money.	00:09:45
	You're not going to be happy, but.	00:09:50
	At least it's a vision for what it looks like.	00:09:52
	Down the road. So thank you.	00:09:55
	The goal is to give you options to write.	00:09:57
	All right. Thanks. Thank you. Right, thanks.	00:10:00
	All right. Next we got discussed current and future facility department policies.	00:10:05
	So the reason this came up is I was looking at the little county directory that Danielle publishes and one of the.	00:10:11
	Duties of this committee is to approve the policies of the Facilities Department.	00:10:21
	So I kind of got looking through that and I could only find 4.	00:10:26
	Policies that we currently have.	00:10:29
	And only two of those were actually approved by.	00:10:32
	The building committee.	00:10:35
	And the other reason this came up is with the issue with the District Attorney wanting a different color paint in one of their	00:10:37
	rooms that we don't have.	00:10:41
	So we were kind of talking about, you know, should we come up with a policy on.	00:10:45
	Painting room colors.	00:10:49
	And the other one that came up is Becky Bell recently asked the question.	00:10:51
	If there was any policies or procedures because they will be having therapy animals in the Henry Dodge building, no.	00:10:57
	And so this kind of all played together. I started looking at this and.	00:11:05
	I'm going to ask what you guys think. Would you like to start reviewing maybe one of these once a month?	00:11:11
	What I would like to do is if you guys have seen any of the HR policies, there's actually.	00:11:18
	Kind of like a template that Tanya has where you put the policy name, you put the data was adopted, you have room for revision	00:11:24
	dates.	00:11:28
	That sort of thing. Is that something you would like to see for any?	00:11:32
	Facilities.	00:11:37
	Policies to follow that same template in.	00:11:38
	Be a little more formal than what they are now.	00:11:42
	So I guess I'd like some feedback from you guys.	00:11:46
	It'd be a good idea.	00:11:50
	School boards, they all the policies that you you need to have.	00:11:51
	That sort of.	00:11:56
	Layoff.	00:11:57
	I would agree if that's the, if that's this, this department's jurisdiction, we should be doing it. Yep.	00:12:00
	Yep, Yep.	00:12:06
	And match you use I guess you know, I've seen Tanya's.	00:12:09
	HR.	00:12:13
	Job descriptions and different things.	00:12:14
	That formats OK if it.	00:12:16
	You know if it's something that you could work with or if you.	00:12:18
	Have something better?	00:12:20
	I think I think it'd be.	00:12:23
	Just easier to just take her template that she uses and and use that for our type of policies.	00:12:24
	Also and give them a formal name. Give them a formal number and.	00:12:30
	And that sort of thing. So if that's what you guys would like to do, I think you know next month we would start with.	00:12:34
	The first one, I'll show you what we have and.	00:12:39
	Go through it and.	00:12:42
	You think there needs to be some revisions or something like that? We could start reviewing one a month.	00:12:43
	Sure. There's only four. That's all I have right now. But if we do the painting, that would be 5. And if we do something with, you	00:12:48
	know, service animals or anything like that, that would be 6. And what other counties have, maybe it can.	00:12:55
	Steal some.	00:13:02
	Policies from them or something, if we have reached out to other counties, I don't know, asking what they do?	00:13:03
	Now for those types of things, but.	00:13:10
	So that's the direction that you guys would like to go. Then we would start with one next month I would get something ready.	00:13:13
	For you guys and have that on the agenda for next month.	00:13:18
	That's a very good idea, Yeah. And if you could eat packet ahead of time, I was just gonna say if you could e-mail that test so we	00:13:20
	can read it over.	00:13:24
	Before we come in trying to read it, think right, right, OK.	00:13:29
	So is this something we should do every year, then review the policies or?	00:13:34
	I don't know if you need to do them every year, but I think you know.	00:13:37
	One of these was from like 2020 and one was like from 18 or something like that or older.	00:13:41
	And then there was one that Russ had sent out to all department heads that was not officially approved by.	00:13:47
	This committee, but it was back from 07.	00:13:54
	So it's just something I think we should.	00:13:56
	You know, review and update as necessary and.	00:13:58
	OK, just make it a little more.	00:14:03
	Formal.	00:14:04
	And if you have any suggestions to put them in with the.	00:14:07
	What you e-mail us, you know what you think should be changed or added or whatever.	00:14:11
	So that when we come to the meeting we have that information and we can decide on it then.	00:14:16
	Sounds good.	00:14:21
	Right. All right. Update on the air conditioner repairs. So our air conditioner was fixed. They finished it this week here at the	00:14:22
	admin building. So now we do have full capacity on our air conditioner. So that's good.	00:14:30
	Our rooftop unit #2 at Henry Dodge, that's the one that we talked about last month. I had a compressor go out.	00:14:39
	The estimate to fix it was 6550. It turned out to be 7260, so there was another $710.	00:14:48
	Because they also found that there was a hole in the coil and we had no freon left.	00:14:58
	So that got just a little bit more expensive than what we had anticipated.	00:15:03
	I have reached out to Masters Building Solutions, our service contractor on the Henry Dodge 1.	00:15:08
	I've asked them several times that they still cannot give me an answer on when the other circuit.	00:15:16
	Will be fixed on that one.	00:15:21
	Umm. It does keep the building somewhat cool on one circuit, but it's not really taking a lot of humidity out of the building. At	00:15:24
	Henry Dodge, it does get a little muggy in the building.	00:15:29
	So we would like to get that.	00:15:35
	Finished we just.	00:15:37
	Are not getting an answer from them on when they can get that completed.	00:15:38
	So do they have the part or?	00:15:42
	Are they having issues with the part or?	00:15:45
	What it is, is inside each compressor there's something called a thermistor.	00:15:48
	And that is what will kick the compressor off if it gets too hot.	00:15:53
	And the thermistor which is only a couple dollar part.	00:15:58
	To change that, you need to disassemble the whole compressor and.	00:16:03
	All that sort of thing to replace this.	00:16:07
	So what the technician has told me they have done at other places is they've actually just used.	00:16:09
	Band clamps.	00:16:15
	Clamped on a.	00:16:17
	Thermostat sensor to the outside of the compressor and then wired that into their control boards.	00:16:19
	But he said he cannot go ahead and do that without approval from.	00:16:25
	Dickens Engineers, the company that made the.	00:16:30
	Unit.	00:16:33
	To make sure that they're using the right components and doing all this and that. So I believe that that is what the holdup is.	00:16:34
	Is not getting a answer back from the **** and engineers.	00:16:40
	Letting them.	00:16:45
	Do that to this unit.	00:16:46
	That makes sense. Is that unit under warranty yet that Dakin would really have? No, we put that in in 16 I think.	00:16:49
	I mean.	00:16:59
	There's no warranty. You what? There's no warranty.	00:17:00
	What do they care? You know, I mean, I that was going to be my suggestion. It's true internal.	00:17:03
	Pressure control, outer temperature, you know, control. And that's what they have done elsewhere too. But he said he can't do it	00:17:08
	without getting an approval from their engineers.	00:17:12
	So I will be pursuing that again. But like I said, as of last week when I asked, I've sent several emails to him and they said,	00:17:16
	well, we haven't heard back yet, so.	00:17:22
	I will be reaching out to them again to.	00:17:27
	Keep on them.	00:17:30
	We're going to go the most expensive for all it so they can get involved with it, you know?	00:17:32
	That hole in the coil, is that from the tornado?	00:17:39
	No.	00:17:42
	No, that was just something that.	00:17:43
	Have one.	00:17:45
	Just warned it cracked on that one of the copper tubes where it comes around the.	00:17:46
	The end of the coil and comes back in again. It interact on the end.	00:17:52
	OK.	00:17:55
	That can just happen from expansion and contraction over the term.	00:17:57
	You know, age because actually the the other one.	00:18:02
	Rooftop Unit 1 had that earlier this year where it cracked down. The end.	00:18:07
	Also, and they had to.	00:18:12
	Solder up the coil and.	00:18:14
	Fill it back up with freon. So actually both coils had an issue this year.	00:18:16
	And she said, same age.	00:18:21
	Yeah.	00:18:23
	All right, very good.	00:18:27
	Any questions from anybody?	00:18:29
	No, then we'll move on. Tornado damage update.	00:18:32
	Umm, so all we've really got left up at the Henry Dodge building is to.	00:18:36
	Get the light pole repaired.	00:18:43
	We did trim some trees last week. We had Rockies in here to trim some trees for some branches that were.	00:18:46
	Damaged from the tornado, they were up higher in the trees where they were. They were up there yet, but they were snapped off and.	00:18:53
	The branches were dead, so we got those out of there.	00:18:59
	The one tree.	00:19:03
	They asked me about it. It does not look real great.	00:19:04
	Right now it's a locust tree.	00:19:07
	So they had to take a bunch out of the center. So you got kind of some over here and come over here and the middle's kind of bare.	00:19:09
	Umm, they said it may.	00:19:16
	Kind of fill back in, it may not, but I said at this point I am not going to do anything else with it or take it down, just not	00:19:18
	knowing what the disposition of that building is going to be long term.	00:19:24
	It's a good idea to spend the money on taking it down. Right now we're doing anything else with it until we.	00:19:30
	Have a firm idea what's going to go on up there?	00:19:35
	And since our last meeting, the fence was repaired down at the sheriff's impound building, so that's done.	00:19:40
	And.	00:19:48
	We did send in the air conditioner coil repair A.	00:19:50
	To the insurance adjuster.	00:19:56
	That we would like that one repaired.	00:19:58
	Versus replacing the whole unit. We have not heard back from the adjuster yet if they're approving that.	00:20:02
	And for our one on the courthouse roof?	00:20:08
	We did have Trained come out and take a look at it and I am still waiting for train to give us a price on that so I can get that	00:20:12
	turned into the insurance adjuster.	00:20:17
	Is that one of the new ones?	00:20:24
	No.	00:20:26
	No, that's one that is scheduled to be on the CIP plan to be replaced next year.	00:20:27
	Good.	00:20:32
	Our luck would be who was one of the new ones.	00:20:35
	But OK.	00:20:38
	Good.	00:20:38
	All right. Anybody got any more questions for him?	00:20:41
	OK. Then we'll move on to elevator repair update.	00:20:45
	So yes, this one has been out of service for seven weeks here already. I did send.	00:20:49
	Otis, an e-mail the other day requesting a formal written explanation to bring to you folks tonight.	00:20:55
	Of when this will be fixed.	00:21:02
	I did not get that.	00:21:03
	She told me yesterday she had a meeting this morning at 9:30 with her service team and she would know.	00:21:05
	I called her this afternoon and yeah, I'm still waiting for an answer.	00:21:11
	So.	00:21:15
	So you company with customer, no service.	00:21:17
	Yeah, that's a popular theme nowadays.	00:21:21
	Yes it is. Yes, it is.	00:21:24
	So yes, I am still waiting for an answer. I really hope to have something for you guys in writing for today and it didn't happen.	00:21:26
	You said that you are all getting quotes for.	00:21:34
	Maintenance on them.	00:21:37
	Elevators.	00:21:38
	So there's other companies that do that kind of work.	00:21:40
	We got.	00:21:43
	Quotes from 4 different service providers. Otis was not one of them because they are not underneath the State of Wisconsin service	00:21:44
	contract.	00:21:47
	So we did get.	00:21:51
	The quotes.	00:21:53
	OK.	00:21:54
	Which leads into our next elevator repair here.	00:21:56
	We had the door opener go out on the visitation elevator in the jail.	00:22:00
	And oldest being our service provider gave us a quote that they wanted 42,200 some dollars to fix it.	00:22:05
	And I talked to our service tech and I said, you know, that's kind of.	00:22:15
	That's kind of crazy.	00:22:20
	So he went back to the office and.	00:22:22
	Magically within 12 hours.	00:22:25
	It dropped down to $31,100.	00:22:29
	Drop $11,100.	00:22:32
	Just like that.	00:22:34
	Because you questioned it.	00:22:36
	Yes.	00:22:38
	So that left me with a really bad.	00:22:39
	Image of oldest that they were willing to.	00:22:43
	Try to charge us that much when we have a service contract with them and we've been a longtime customer of them.	00:22:45
	That didn't set very well, so I called two of the companies that bid on our future service contract.	00:22:51
	Schindler who?	00:23:01
	Made the elevators in the jail, in the courthouse.	00:23:02
	They did ask some further questions. I sent them some pictures.	00:23:05
	And that was the last I heard from.	00:23:09
	Minnesota Elevator, the company that did have the lowest bid.	00:23:12
	They were on the phone right away saying can we send some people out to take a look?	00:23:17
	They did come the next day with the service tech and a supervisor. They spent about an hour and a half troubleshooting it.	00:23:22
	Two days later, they had a formal proposal.	00:23:30
	And instead of 31,000 it was under 6700.	00:23:34
	Oh my God.	00:23:38
	I signed that proposal.	00:23:40
	On last week, Thursday afternoon.	00:23:42
	They were there at 8:00.	00:23:46
	Friday morning and it was up running in an hour and 15 minutes. Oh my gosh.	00:23:47
	Can we do the same thing with that elevator? Work well in this elevator?	00:23:56
	That should be covered under our service agreement, OK.	00:24:02
	As far as I'm.	00:24:07
	Aware that is under our service agreement so.	00:24:08
	The elevator is no serving. Yeah. Are they similar to like the Henry Dodge where they're getting that old and out of date and hard	00:24:13
	to find parts for?	00:24:17
	This one was just upgraded 10 years ago. It was all redone.	00:24:23
	OK.	00:24:26
	The one on the South end is original from 1996.	00:24:28
	But but the Henry Dodges are from the 60s.	00:24:33
	Right, but those were all redone 2 years ago.	00:24:37
	Yeah, OK. The two that we are operating are all.	00:24:39
	Revamped with new drives.	00:24:43
	Cars are all redone and.	00:24:46
	What is, what did that cost at that time? There was.	00:24:48
	Is 500 some thousand? Yeah, it was quite a bit close to.	00:24:51
	Wow and we only did two of the elevators. The other two we yellow taped off.	00:24:56
	So Minnesota Elevator, the company that did do the repair on the Jail 1, was also the low bidder for our service contract.	00:25:02
	That we looked at.	00:25:11
	So, umm.	00:25:12
	We have not formally sent Otis a non renewal notice.	00:25:13
	We did not want to do that until this one is fixed, right?	00:25:17
	I don't want to get in the situation where all of a sudden they say, well, we can't get parts, we can't get parts and all of a	00:25:21
	sudden we're past December 31st and well, now it's your problem. We don't have a service contract anymore.	00:25:26
	So I don't want to get to that. That's why we're not sending out the non renewal notice at this time.	00:25:32
	So it runs from the first of the year till December 31st or contract. You always just do a one year deal with.	00:25:37
	The company, those were three.	00:25:44
	#3 year deals and this is the end of their third year then yes.	00:25:46
	OK.	00:25:49
	Now the one at the jail that wasn't covered under our service agreement with them or?	00:25:51
	No, because the part is obsolete.	00:25:55
	Oh, is that right?	00:25:58
	OK, so we were saved by doing it the way you did it. Yes, having them come in and.	00:25:59
	Do it for 25,000.	00:26:04
	Actually more because it was 42 and then I went to 31 and then he did 6700. It's like.	00:26:08
	Boy, that Minnesota elevator, are they coming out of Minnesota or did they have a company around here?	00:26:15
	No, they they, they have a branch in Madison. They have a branch in Milwaukee.	00:26:21
	They're in several other states also, but they are based out of Mankato, MN. OK.	00:26:25
	So their actual price was 666289.	00:26:31
	Wow, that's crazy.	00:26:36
	Just shows how they're going to gorgeous that bad.	00:26:40
	You know, no.	00:26:43
	So I was very happy with their responsiveness and their price.	00:26:46
	I'd say.	00:26:51
	Says a lot and we must want our business.	00:26:54
	Yep.	00:26:56
	OK, that's good.	00:26:59
	Would it be?	00:27:04
	What a letter from corporate counsel to Otis and say hey, this thing has been down for.	00:27:05
	This long, you know you're under contract repair, it's done. We have discussed that, yes, I think we're pretty close to that	00:27:10
	point.	00:27:13
	Where's Otis out of?	00:27:18
	Where do they come from?	00:27:21
	Milwaukee Madison area tour.	00:27:22
	The we get service out of the Madison branch, but yeah, they're.	00:27:24
	Yeah, they're a very large conglomerate, so it's not like they're that far away.	00:27:28
	No.	00:27:33
	No, but they're not under the state.	00:27:34
	Contract.	00:27:37
	No, there's only four.	00:27:38
	Companies underneath the state contract. One is Schindler, 1 is Coney, 1 is Minnesota Elevator, and the other one is Express	00:27:41
	Elevator out of Milwaukee.	00:27:45
	So that says something about oldest student if they're not.	00:27:50
	Under the state.	00:27:54
	Contract, OK.	00:27:56
	All right, we will move on at a 2526 budget update.	00:28:01
	My goal was to have my budget done for you guys for this meeting. I didn't make that goal.	00:28:07
	Had some other things going on but.	00:28:13
	Phil and I have been working on the budget.	00:28:14
	Um, we're part way through that.	00:28:19
	We're going to try to hold it at where we are for this year. I know there's been some increases in parts costs and things like	00:28:22
	that, but we are going to try to hold that.	00:28:26
	We are also looking at, you know, we have to do our budget projections for the rest of the year.	00:28:30
	We're part way through that also. I don't see anything that would.	00:28:36
	'Cause any alarm at this point.	00:28:40
	I know for the administration building our service repairs to some of our things we had.	00:28:43
	Quite a few unanticipated ones.	00:28:48
	That's going to kind of put us over on that account. But we also did look at electric and I think right now we're 20 to $25,000	00:28:51
	under on our electric for just this building.	00:28:56
	So I think we'll we'll be OK.	00:29:02
	With that and.	00:29:05
	We've got some other ones in some different buildings that are trending under as well as a little bit over on some of them so.	00:29:06
	I don't think there's really any cause for alarm on our 2025 projections for meeting.	00:29:12
	Our budget either.	00:29:17
	Yeah, I was just going to ask you to Henry Dodge is a law enforcement and the courts building, John.	00:29:21
	I did notice that we were getting close to or over our.	00:29:27
	Our usage on them buildings is any of that due to the storm damage?	00:29:31
	Is them storm damage numbers going into that?	00:29:35
	Into them, numbers or not.	00:29:40
	Yes they do, but it gets coded as something else, right Barb?	00:29:44
	For the storm damage, yeah.	00:29:49
	Yeah, there's a whole separate.	00:29:51
	Call for anything that has to do with storm damage.	00:29:54
	So that ain't part of them numbers that are in that actual.	00:29:58
	Budget to actual report.	00:30:02
	OK.	00:30:04
	All right.	00:30:05
	Very good.	00:30:08
	All right. Any other questions from anyone on that?	00:30:11
	I think we're good on our labor. We did our labor projections for the rest of the year and also for 2026 and I think we're good in	00:30:14
	those areas too.	00:30:18
	I mean, we're not.	00:30:23
	Adding any additional staff or anything and I think we're pretty good on our labor projections.	00:30:24
	For wages and I mean or.	00:30:30
	So did you just use what?	00:30:32
	What they decided at the Finance Committee meeting.	00:30:34
	2.64 or whatever as a.	00:30:37
	There there's numbers that finance has built into the spreadsheets and then we just need to, OK.	00:30:39
	Make sure that our full-time equivalents are correct and that.	00:30:44
	It's all correct in what?	00:30:49
	You know, benefit package people are taking whether it's a single or a family and, and that sort of thing and.	00:30:50
	If we.	00:30:57
	Anticipate somebody retiring or something. We would put that in there with a date and you know if you were going to bring somebody	00:30:59
	new one to replace them, they'd probably starting out at Step 1. So you put those things in there.	00:31:04
	For your the rest of your 2025 as well as if you had something going on in 26.	00:31:10
	OK.	00:31:15
	All right, then we'll move on to the Phyllis Facility Directors reports.	00:31:20
	Building repairs and improvements.	00:31:25
	I had intended to get some pictures of the Henry Dodge parking lot. I thought I had them, but apparently I didn't.	00:31:28
	We have a lot of potholes in that parking lot right now that need to be repaired. The concern is we did have somebody fall last	00:31:35
	winter.	00:31:39
	That tripped on one there were the blacktop was about an inch and a half to two inches lower than.	00:31:43
	The part next to it, part of it, had sunk away.	00:31:51
	So I was up there with Highway a couple weeks ago.	00:31:54
	They do have everything marked out with paint of where they're going to patch and repair.	00:31:57
	I'm not sure what that is going to cost me at this time because there is a significant number of potholes where the blacktop is	00:32:05
	just disintegrating where they actually need to.	00:32:09
	More than just spill in a hole where they actually need to cut.	00:32:14
	Some out and redo it.	00:32:17
	And there's also in the center of the lot along the Wild Goose Trail. There's two storm drains there.	00:32:22
	And there's just a little Swale. We're kind of pitches to the center and runs to the drains.	00:32:28
	A lot of that has just disintegrated into powder and that needs to be cut out the whole length of that probably.	00:32:32
	4 to foot wide.	00:32:39
	A piece of blacked out the length of that parking lot between those two storm drains where they're gonna have to do that.	00:32:41
	But the goal is to not have anybody fall and have any injuries out there in the parking lot, so we need to get these things done.	00:32:47
	The parking lots been in the capital plan in the last couple years, but again.	00:32:54
	We've been pushing it off just based on not knowing.	00:32:59
	What the long term?	00:33:02
	Use of that building is going to be.	00:33:03
	So we'll patch it up as best we can with.	00:33:07
	What we have available.	00:33:10
	Our Register of Deeds entryway has been completed.	00:33:15
	And we're going to take a look at that when we come back in from the Plaza. I think that turned out quite nice.	00:33:18
	The only thing left on it is the door needs to be stained and that is happening this weekend when one of my guys is working this	00:33:24
	weekend he's going to work on.	00:33:29
	Getting the door stained and sealed and then that will be complete.	00:33:33
	Super.	00:33:39
	We've had the roofing company out several times for the Sheriff's Office leaks, and I know we talked about that last month.	00:33:41
	And and.	00:33:48
	We have leaks again.	00:33:49
	Umm, So what we're going to do is we're going to go with our staff up there. We're going to.	00:33:51
	Take our plastic shovels. Remove as much of the rock as we can in those areas.	00:33:56
	And we did buy some, some patch kits at Menards that we're going to see if we can just locate the rest of those versus.	00:34:01
	Having the roofing company come out again.	00:34:09
	We we think we can.	00:34:13
	Find the rest of them and do it ourselves at a much cheaper rate than.	00:34:14
	Paying the rougher.	00:34:19
	Every time they've come out, they have found additional leaks. It's just that.	00:34:21
	They haven't found all of them.	00:34:25
	We keep getting.	00:34:27
	Issues every time it rains so.	00:34:29
	Not to change the subject, but.	00:34:32
	Camera and you know when that CIP is going to come out where we.	00:34:34
	The survey or the final Doctor?	00:34:38
	Survey went out today. Oh, it did go out.	00:34:40
	OK, so everybody look at that.	00:34:43
	But we should really push.	00:34:45
	The other supervisors to move.	00:34:47
	Sheriff's Office.	00:34:50
	Up on that CIP.	00:34:51
	That's of utmost importance because if we're getting leaks now seems to be deteriorating rapidly. We did not have any leaks the	00:34:53
	last three or four years on there and.	00:34:58
	They just keep coming this year.	00:35:03
	And how old is it?	00:35:04
	I wasn't exactly sure when it was put on.	00:35:07
	OK.	00:35:10
	I did see in every year we have, we have Christensen Roofing, they do a building roof assessment on all of our buildings. We pay	00:35:14
	them to come out and they any places that need repair they do.	00:35:19
	And I just found the other day their report from 2022 that said the life expectancy of the roof is one year or less.	00:35:25
	OK, a little past that.	00:35:35
	So how do we?	00:35:39
	How do we put that out to the supervisors letting them know that that roof needs to be replaced? I mean, it's.	00:35:41
	It shots the details. The details for every project are in the survey.	00:35:47
	OK.	00:35:51
	OK, those will get and then and then.	00:35:53
	You all and the rest of the 33 will.	00:35:57
	We'll get a chance to rate them.	00:36:00
	Then we'll take all that information and use that to help prioritize projects. But ultimately.	00:36:02
	There's also sitting down with.	00:36:07
	John.	00:36:09
	Brian over at the highway.	00:36:10
	Department and a few others.	00:36:12
	And working through OK what absolutely, absolutely needs to happen.	00:36:14
	And so that final.	00:36:18
	Once we've done that and had that conversation.	00:36:20
	Then the county board Finance Committee first.	00:36:22
	Probably, I'm guessing.	00:36:26
	And then we'll be where we.	00:36:28
	Draw the resolution from for a sponsoring resolution.	00:36:30
	But then it would go to the.	00:36:33
	September county board meeting.	00:36:35
	For further discussion and hopefully action.	00:36:38
	So that's the, that's the process and that information about the need to replace.	00:36:41
	Is already in that.	00:36:46
	In that survey.	00:36:48
	But you all have.	00:36:49
	Extra, I guess, additional knowledge because you've actually you're here in this, yeah.	00:36:51
	You're on the committee.	00:36:56
	So I mean.	00:36:58
	Yeah, my suggestion is just to go ahead and do the survey, but.	00:37:00
	Know that I also know where the roof is at.	00:37:03
	And that's help.	00:37:06
	That means that's gonna.	00:37:07
	Need to get.	00:37:09
	Place.	00:37:10
	OK, so hopefully I wrote my narrative well enough to sell the project.	00:37:11
	Otherwise, I'm going to have to go out with John's.	00:37:17
	Replace the roof every time it.	00:37:22
	Yeah.	00:37:23
	All right.	00:37:27
	And they don't use the ballasted systems very much anymore. You know, they use that.	00:37:28
	Fully adhered system so you can find a leak 1.	00:37:33
	Yes.	00:37:36
	What do you mean?	00:37:38
	Much better. They put a, they put a fiberboard, screw a fiberboard to the deck and then glue the membrane to that. Yeah.	00:37:39
	So there's no stone on it anymore. So you can.	00:37:46
	Find a leak, OK Stone, and they call it a ballast. It's just OK. And they don't do that no more.	00:37:49
	Just not that never, but it's not as common every.	00:37:55
	OK, yes, that one is a ballasted rope with the TPO.	00:37:58
	Roofing OK.	00:38:01
	And we changed them on the courthouse that time when we did.	00:38:03
	That that is a rubber membrane, but it is a ballasted rope, right?	00:38:07
	OK.	00:38:11
	OK.	00:38:13
	Our medical area in the jail we are having issues with the floor tile and the corridor and where the.	00:38:16
	The nurses.	00:38:24
	Station is there.	00:38:25
	We had that replaced.	00:38:27
	5-6 years ago.	00:38:29
	The original flooring was.	00:38:31
	Worn out. And so we had.	00:38:33
	Vinyl squares put in by two Higgs up in Fond du Lac who does most of our flooring work.	00:38:36
	That vinyl just never worked.	00:38:44
	Out they've tried several different glues on it.	00:38:46
	And we still have problems that.	00:38:50
	The the vinyl itself just keeps expanding.	00:38:52
	And so your seams eventually start to buckle up, and they take a little.	00:38:56
	Make a little trip hazard.	00:39:00
	So we've worked on these several times where we take the tile up, you take a utility knife and just cut a real thin sliver off of	00:39:02
	it, put it back down.	00:39:06
	We just can't.	00:39:13
	Keep doing it down, it just keeps expanding so.	00:39:14
	What we did, we have not.	00:39:18
	Done the repair yet but we have taken 3 of the tiles out that were in bad shape that were a trip hazard.	00:39:19
	And we're going to take that all out. We're going to put vinyl plank flooring in there ourselves. We're going to my guys are going	00:39:25
	to do that.	00:39:28
	Then I think that'll be a better solution that floating vinyl plank flooring.	00:39:32
	So that's what we're going to do in our medical area and if that works good there. We have the same tile in our intake area in the	00:39:37
	jail.	00:39:41
	It's not a real large area, but it's something that we could do there also because we've had the same issue.	00:39:45
	There with tiles coming up.	00:39:51
	The vinyl plank works fine for just foot traffic, but if it's under a desk?	00:39:54
	And the rollers are rolling over, it will start flexing and breaking the edges.	00:39:59
	But we're hoping that if we put floor mat down over the top of it, we're hoping that that's going to take some of that.	00:40:04
	Yes, you definitely want to get a map done.	00:40:11
	Or wherever there's a.	00:40:13
	So that's our goal with that.	00:40:17
	In that area.	00:40:18
	Fix that problem.	00:40:20
	Clearview needs some sidewalk repair, so I'm working on developing a proposal for that with our purchasing agent so that can get	00:40:23
	it is over the 5000 limit for a public works project so.	00:40:28
	It does need some specs drawn up for it and I will work with Trista on that. I will get those.	00:40:34
	Drawn up and published and we'll get that out forbid yet this year and.	00:40:42
	See if we can get that repaired up there.	00:40:46
	I didn't have this on the agenda, but I guess I'm just looking for a consensus from the group here.	00:40:54
	I will be taking something to finance on Monday for using jail improvement funds for a camera upgrade in H pod.	00:40:59
	And the total on that is like 31,500.	00:41:07
	There is plenty of money in the jail improvement fund, there's like 80,000 in there.	00:41:11
	And.	00:41:16
	So between myself and Scott Smith, we.	00:41:18
	Thought that this was the best route to go is to seek jail improvement funds for that camera project for the jail.	00:41:20
	So just bringing that.	00:41:27
	To you guys and let you know what we're doing and.	00:41:28
	They're not cameras in it now, or they're there. There is.	00:41:32
	But it's additional seven additional.	00:41:36
	Cameras, I don't know if I have that with me or not.	00:41:38
	I don't think I do.	00:41:45
	There's there's five sections that have some blind spots.	00:41:47
	In there.	00:41:50
	And the inmates are very good at finding where those blind spots are. So this will.	00:41:52
	This will get us that the bid from Elm Star was just under 25,000 for all the cabling.	00:41:58
	The conduit, the raceways, the wire mold, the cabling, the terminating of the ends of the.	00:42:05
	CAT6 cable.	00:42:11
	Testing the cables, all that sort of thing.	00:42:13
	And then the camera price from accurate controls was just under 7000 and.	00:42:16
	Accurate is also our integrator with.	00:42:22
	Getting the cameras.	00:42:26
	Into our system and also putting the graphics on the computer screens for the officer station so they can bring up that section	00:42:28
	said yes, I want to look at this camera. They click on the camera and it pops up on your screen.	00:42:33
	On what's going on in that area.	00:42:39
	So the total was 31532.	00:42:41
	And that'll be going to finance on.	00:42:44
	Monday for use of jail assessment fund.	00:42:47
	OK.	00:42:49
	So most of that cost is labor over the product.	00:42:52
	Pretty much so it's installation solution because you're going through secured block walls. Above the block walls are poured.	00:42:55
	Slush full of concrete.	00:43:03
	L Star has done work in the jail before, they have done cameras in this section before, so they do know what they're getting	00:43:06
	themselves into.	00:43:11
	They do have our prints, they know where their conduits run so.	00:43:15
	It's advantageous for us to use them again versus starting with somebody new.	00:43:19
	So.	00:43:26
	Very good.	00:43:27
	As far as operations, we are working through interviews to fill our vacant lead mechanic position.	00:43:30
	We had seven applications. We were going to interview 6 people. We've got 4 done and we had another one withdraws application this	00:43:38
	afternoon. So.	00:43:43
	I did reach out to the last one and he has not responded to my emails, so we may just go with the four applicants that we had and.	00:43:48
	Pick one from there but.	00:43:56
	We are working on filling that lead position.	00:43:58
	You got decent applicants or?	00:44:02
	Yes, yes.	00:44:03
	Good. Yes, we do.	00:44:04
	Did the one say why he withdrew?	00:44:06
	You give any reason?	00:44:09
	I did not know until this afternoon he actually is a.	00:44:12
	Mechanic up at Clearview.	00:44:16
	And I talked to Adam, the director of a Clearview today, and I asked him if he thought.	00:44:18
	I said he didn't respond to my e-mail.	00:44:25
	I said, is he still interested? And Adam said well.	00:44:27
	He put in his two week notice that he's done on the 15th because he's starting a new job on the 18th. I said, well, I guess he	00:44:31
	doesn't want to work for Dodge County then.	00:44:34
	Oh, OK.	00:44:37
	I just found that out late this afternoon.	00:44:42
	They do? Do they do exit interviews with?	00:44:44
	Employees when they leave or not.	00:44:48
	You do so you could find out if it was.	00:44:50
	Wages or a fuse?	00:44:53
	Unhappy with?	00:44:54
	Things so they are not mandated to have that exit interview.	00:44:56
	But they are called and come and requested to have one.	00:45:01
	If they do, then yes, that information would be.	00:45:04
	Available April. Does the interviews.	00:45:08
	Generally because where our organization is as large as it is.	00:45:10
	They keep those notes, but.	00:45:15
	It's only when there are.	00:45:17
	Certain significant flags that they will let me know and then we'll go out and.	00:45:19
	Discuss with.	00:45:23
	With the department directors.	00:45:24
	So we can.	00:45:26
	And I can endorse it, John, if you wanted to find out, you know, we could go and figure out what it was.	00:45:28
	If there was anything.	00:45:33
	He has not been here that long. He's only been here a few months.	00:45:35
	OK. Well, then he might not. Yeah. So I don't know if he didn't like it or this was a much better opportunity or what it is. They	00:45:38
	are really more money.	00:45:42
	Yeah, could be, but they don't have to do an exit interview. They can turn it down. They.	00:45:45
	They are not required so.	00:45:50
	We have to offer it, but they can turn it down if they.	00:45:53
	Right. Something that we offer because we want to get that feedback right.	00:45:56
	But.	00:46:00
	We if they don't come.	00:46:02
	Not likely necessarily. Can fire on. Yeah, right.	00:46:04
	So that's why I say it's OK.	00:46:10
	We also do.	00:46:12
	Stay interviews.	00:46:14
	So when people are.	00:46:16
	I forget what the timeline is.	00:46:19
	John, do you remember? No, I don't. I don't. But I know that they've done them.	00:46:20
	Yes, they do. And those those happen frequently, probably weekly. There are some that are accomplished.	00:46:24
	At least monthly.	00:46:31
	I'm thinking weekly.	00:46:32
	The.	00:46:33
	Yeah, just to check in with people after.	00:46:35
	Three months. Six months.	00:46:37
	Years.	00:46:39
	But.	00:46:41
	Good. We do those. Try to glean what?	00:46:42
	What's keeping them here? What's?	00:46:45
	Sending them on their way.	00:46:48
	Yep, Good. Yeah, in the case of, I guess, since he was only here a few months.	00:46:49
	That might not have gotten on anybody's radar, but.	00:46:54
	Help. I don't know.	00:46:58
	OK.	00:47:00
	I do have an open night shift custodian position our.	00:47:03
	We had a gentleman up at Henry Dodge on night shift there. He has only been here about 2 1/2 months and he decided that was not	00:47:08
	for him and he left.	00:47:13
	So we are recruiting for a night shift.	00:47:19
	Also.	00:47:22
	And that's for at the jail or?	00:47:23
	It will be at the jail.	00:47:26
	I had somebody on days that wanted to go to nights.	00:47:29
	That wanted that position up there.	00:47:32
	And my night shift custodian at the jail.	00:47:35
	Would like to go today's.	00:47:40
	So we have a little bit of reshuffling, so it will end up as a.	00:47:42
	PM Custodian position in the jail facility.	00:47:47
	OK.	00:47:51
	So, so far we've got three applications. I have not set up interviews yet, but we'll be working on that tomorrow setting those up.	00:47:55
	I have not attended any of the Clearview construction meetings as of yet, but I will be starting that. I will be off next Tuesday	00:48:07
	when they have their next one, but after that the following week on the 19th. I.	00:48:13
	Intend to start attending those as my schedule permits.	00:48:19
	So I can keep up to date on what's going on with their construction project.	00:48:23
	That's every week they have a media Tuesdays at like 8:00 in the morning.	00:48:28
	OK.	00:48:33
	Good, good.	00:48:36
	We've been coordinating with the Master Gardeners, with the garden at the jail, that and also the CBRF. That's where our fresh	00:48:37
	produce is.	00:48:42
	Ending up.	00:48:47
	Some of it anyway. We they can't use all of it that the Master Gardeners produce, but.	00:48:48
	So what happens is on Thursdays?	00:48:52
	When Barb does the mail run, she picks up.	00:48:55
	Whatever the Master Gardeners have.	00:48:57
	And contacts Mary Ogan off up there the manager of the CBRF and they.	00:48:59
	Work on whatever she can use for.	00:49:05
	Fresh vegetables for the week.	00:49:07
	And Barb takes that up there, delivers it, and then the rest goes out in the cart that's out by the street for for.	00:49:09
	The public to use, but she's very happy with the vegetables that they get up there. I think it's a good thing for you know a	00:49:16
	volunteer group and then working with the.	00:49:21
	The two different county entities to all work together to do something positive for the residents in the CBRF up there.	00:49:26
	Good, Very good.	00:49:33
	We got a lot of indoors out as well as outdoor projects that we want to complete this year. I know it's.	00:49:37
	August time is kind of slipping away on us, but we're going to try to get as many of these things done.	00:49:42
	Outdoors and things like that as we can before the end of the year, but we do have other indoor projects that we want to get to	00:49:48
	also.	00:49:51
	Some of the indoor ones that we did do took a little bit longer than expected and doing the three courtrooms with the lighting,	00:49:55
	that took a while.	00:49:58
	But we're just.	00:50:04
	Moving on with.	00:50:05
	Trying to do as much stuff in house as we can.	00:50:06
	It's just a better way of doing things.	00:50:10
	Find out about it.	00:50:12
	So branch for you have the lighting done? Lighting is done. We did not replace the ceiling tiles in the gallery yet. They were not	00:50:14
	quite as dirty as some of the other ones. We have them purchased but we just didn't put them in yet because we had some other.	00:50:20
	Priorities, but.	00:50:26
	All the courtrooms look great.	00:50:27
	Just this week they went back to Branch 3. That was the first one that we did.	00:50:29
	We did take a few fixtures.	00:50:34
	Back out so it now matches the other courtrooms.	00:50:36
	It's not quite as bright, It has a little bit better look to it.	00:50:39
	And some of the ones that we took out we will actually use down in branch 5 when we get to that one.	00:50:43
	And then I just need to apply for the Focus on Energy rebates for all the fixtures that we did buy. I got to fill out that	00:50:51
	paperwork yet and get that sent in.	00:50:54
	But I'm really happy with the way our courtrooms look.	00:50:58
	Good work.	00:51:02
	Our restroom cleaning on the Wild Goose Trail, that's going very well.	00:51:03
	The Parks Department has told us they've had several compliments, that people have contacted them, how clean the restrooms are and	00:51:09
	how they look. And I think that's just a.	00:51:12
	A great thing for Dodge County for not only for us, but for our Parks Department also that people.	00:51:17
	Like the clean restrooms when they're using the trail.	00:51:22
	It's just a good thing.	00:51:25
	The porta potties were pretty nasty.	00:51:26
	Yeah, I bet you.	00:51:29
	So yes, people are happy with the new restrooms that we have there. So that was a good investment, ARPA funds to use on our	00:51:35
	journals. It's just a good look for the county that.	00:51:39
	Got people from out of county using our bike trails and stuff that that.	00:51:44
	Yeah, good.	00:51:47
	Just a couple of thank you notes to share with the committee.	00:51:50
	I did get.	00:51:54
	Tanya had a need. She had like a countertop area.	00:51:55
	And she's had money in a budget for a part-time person for a while, and she wants to get that person in there, so.	00:52:00
	Our guys kind of redid that space for, she says. The physical facilities did a great job with the desk space. It looks amazing and	00:52:06
	exactly what we were looking for.	00:52:11
	All we had to work with was some leftover odds and ends, pieces of desk material, but our guys were able to put that all together	00:52:16
	and kind of build the desk in this space that she wanted and.	00:52:21
	She's happy with what she got.	00:52:26
	Also got something from Scott Smith.	00:52:31
	On the jail inspector that was recently there, kudos for keeping their facility clean and not covered in graffiti, he says. We	00:52:35
	kind of take it for granted, but.	00:52:40
	It's not what the inspector is used to seeing when he goes to other jails because most deals are covered in.	00:52:45
	Graffiti and the the housing areas and railings and things like that and.	00:52:50
	Ours does not look like other jails that he goes to.	00:52:54
	So good. Good.	00:52:58
	Good job. Last night I got is from Judge Fitzger.	00:53:00
	It says just a note to thank all of your team for a fantastic job with the lights in the painting. We always crab when things are	00:53:04
	not right and I figured I would let you know when things go great.	00:53:08
	The courtroom looks insanely wonderful. Your team did a fantastic job. I could not be prouder of the way the court looks.	00:53:13
	We are blessed to have such hard working people who actually care about the work that they do and this job shows it. Thank you to	00:53:20
	you and your team. Brian Fitzger.	00:53:23
	Very good, very good. That makes you feel good.	00:53:28
	Yeah.	00:53:31
	What did you say? Amazingly fantastic.	00:53:33
	Insanely wonderful. Insanely wonderful.	00:53:36
	That sounds like Brian Fitzgerald.	00:53:40
	So yes, there.	00:53:45
	Very pleased with this courtroom. We did it while he was on vacation. He came back in.	00:53:48
	He said. Looks great. He's very happy with it.	00:53:52
	Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you to you guys for doing a good job.	00:53:56
	I mean, we appreciate that too and we appreciate very much you.	00:54:01
	Doing a lot of things in house to save the county.	00:54:06
	Money.	00:54:09
	When you can do it so.	00:54:10
	Thank you.	00:54:12
	You just have a little more control over things when you do it yourself.	00:54:13
	Yeah, again, it does take away from our routine maintenance. I'm not going to say that it doesn't, but we.	00:54:17
	Still try to fit all that in as best we can.	00:54:23
	Good.	00:54:26
	OK, that is all I have on building repairs and operations.	00:54:29
	Thanks, John.	00:54:34
	Future agenda items, we'll just leave it up to John again, he he knows what's going on in his department. So if you guys got any	00:54:36
	you want to add to it just.	00:54:41
	Let them know.	00:54:45
	And then we'll put them on for next month's meeting.	00:54:46
	Yes.	00:54:50
	Quick quick show A video of the boiler inspector was at Henry Dodge.	00:54:51
	Did take a video inside each of the steam boilers.	00:54:55
	I don't know if we want to see this. You probably don't.	00:54:58
	Probably not.	00:55:01
	I gotta I gotta point something out on the screen anyway here, but I'll get it, OK?	00:55:04
	Yes, I almost forgot about the.	00:55:09
	Hey, yeah, you can leave them right off.	00:55:12
	If you.	00:55:16
	I'm trying to get this. I think there's a laser up here too. John, let me show you.	00:55:20
	OK, that's what I want.	00:55:24
	Yeah.	00:55:26
	All right, I'll use the.	00:55:27
	I feel like we made it as a county because we got a laser pointer.	00:55:29
	Batteries.	00:55:35
	There we go, Just have to turn it on. I get someone smart enough to use it. That's the.	00:55:37
	That's the catch.	00:55:48
	Today.	00:55:51
	But you can see that we're missing a whole lot of the refractory now.	00:55:56
	# around here.	00:56:00
	That's all supposed to be mudded in. It's not supposed to look like that. You can see a big crack right there.	00:56:06
	Another crack right there.	00:56:15
	They're not in great shape on the big There's another crack right there.	00:56:17
	So yes, that is boiler #1.	00:56:25
	That all needs to get mudded in and fixed before they get closed up for the winter and turned back on.	00:56:29
	Do they Weld them cracks up to or no just they leave them go like that?	00:56:36
	Yes.	00:56:41
	OK.	00:56:42
	So and then this will be number boiler 3. We have boiler 1 and boiler 3 up there.	00:56:44
	You can see that one's got some cracks there.	00:56:52
	These chunks.	00:56:56
	And you can see that.	00:56:58
	Once he gets up to the top, you can just see how much of that is all missing that that's all got to get mudded back in.	00:57:00
	Before that can be used for the winter.	00:57:06
	You see that the the burners are not in in great shape in these.	00:57:11
	Boilers here.	00:57:15
	So are these used all the time?	00:57:26
	Yes.	00:57:28
	Both of them.	00:57:30
	We only need one at a time.	00:57:31
	But yes, they are both ready to go all winter long.	00:57:36
	But we only need one to operate.	00:57:39
	What about that that newer one that you guys put in that handles it to or not?	00:57:43
	The newer ones are only for hot water for the CBRF.	00:57:48
	OK so these would be your steam boilers that goes to feed your penthouse.	00:57:51
	Air handlers and it is also.	00:57:56
	Feeding a steam converter.	00:58:00
	That would make hot water for other radiators and things like that in the building.	00:58:02
	And the other ones just heat the water in the building.	00:58:09
	Yes, the other ones are just before the CBRF.	00:58:13
	Residential area.	00:58:16
	OK, so.	00:58:18
	For heating.	00:58:19
	Yes, OK.	00:58:21
	Yes, correct.	00:58:22
	Those things not good.	00:58:25
	Till such time as we were able to.	00:58:27
	Do something with that building or we're gonna ask them. We're gonna give it a shot. Yeah, yeah.	00:58:29
	But that's I'm going to be confident that we can keep them going.	00:58:35
	OK, so.	00:58:39
	No guarantees, but that's my goal.	00:58:40
	There are things that the whole board should see the all 33 supervisors should see that.	00:58:43
	You know how bad it is and.	00:58:49
	You know how difficult to repair is that?	00:58:52
	They, the boiler company will get in there and they'll, they'll mud that all back in and, and do that the cracks we're just going	00:58:58
	to have to live with.	00:59:02
	But.	00:59:06
	The rest of it they will mud that all back in and and fix that.	00:59:07
	Sure it's OK.	00:59:11
	I don't know how long it's going to take them.	00:59:13
	OK. Is that every year they got to do that?	00:59:15
	Mudding on it? Or is this no?	00:59:18
	No.	00:59:20
	They did it a couple years ago I think I remember seeing that come through on an invoice.	00:59:24
	What, 2-3 years ago?	00:59:30
	Yeah.	00:59:32
	Every bit of that job.	00:59:34
	So it has been done before, but we will.	00:59:36
	Get that done before they.	00:59:39
	Closed up for the winners.	00:59:40
	Sure, some kind of high temp.	00:59:42
	Item special mortar that would understand that eat you.	00:59:44
	Yes.	00:59:49
	All right.	00:59:52
	Then we need to determine our.	00:59:54
	I've got one more. Oh yeah, it would be interesting in the shape these things are in.	00:59:57
	Just to get a price on what a?	01:00:01
	If you had to replace one of them boilers, what would be looking at?	01:00:04
	We could do that.	01:00:08
	You know it's a good idea.	01:00:09
	It's a good idea, yeah.	01:00:12
	He was there on their last legs, obviously.	01:00:14
	Are you thinking direct direct replacement or replacing with what we would actually need?	01:00:18
	Feed the spaces that we need to eat.	01:00:24
	I would think that what you need to hate. That's right, That you need, yeah.	01:00:26
	I don't know. I guess maybe should. I don't know we necessarily know.	01:00:30
	I don't know what details the boiler itself would cost, but.	01:00:34
	I do know that last winter we had several.	01:00:38
	Steam pipes that also rotted out that were connected to that that we had to.	01:00:42
	Repair also to repair.	01:00:46
	As any of this.	01:00:50
	Any of this?	01:00:51
	Could it be attributed to the same concerns we had before with chlorine and other things?	01:00:53
	I wouldn't say so, no, nothing like that.	01:00:58
	Probably more.	01:01:01
	Because it's so oversized.	01:01:03
	Yes, that is what the boiler inspector is telling us, that a lot of it has to do with how detuned the boilers were because they	01:01:05
	were made to run at a lot higher steam pressure.	01:01:09
	And also to run full tilt and we're running them at.	01:01:14
	18 to 20 lbs and they were made to run a lot higher than that and our load is not that great down there.	01:01:18
	That they cycle on and off all the time.	01:01:24
	Which is also hard on them.	01:01:27
	Yes.	01:01:28
	And they're very inefficient too.	01:01:30
	Very inefficient.	01:01:33
	So we will do what we can to keep them going.	01:01:35
	OK. Anybody else got anything?	01:01:41
	All right, then we need to determine our next meeting date and time.	01:01:45
	Tumblr force, I believe.	01:01:49
	The 4th.	01:01:51
	OK, September 4th.	01:01:52
	Everybody can make that.	01:01:55
	At 4:00.	01:01:59
	Steve, did Ed Summers say something that he wanted to have our next meeting at Clearview to show us the progress has talked to me	01:02:01
	about that and.	01:02:04
	You guys want to decide that now or do you want to wait a little bit just to see how things are progressing and how much there is	01:02:10
	to see that's new?	01:02:14
	Because I thought that would be here tonight to talk about that.	01:02:18
	I know Ed has talked to me about that, that he would like you guys to have a meeting up there so you could actually see what's	01:02:22
	going on. And I just don't know at this point how much is going to be done. Or I think everybody just keep track of, watch their	01:02:28
	agendas and if you know, and I can send an e-mail out to you guys, they've made a lot of progress. There's a lot going on.	01:02:34
	I can send you guys an e-mail and let you know.	01:02:41
	That we would have that we would have it up in the gathering room up there.	01:02:45
	And we would have our meeting and then we would go on a tour and take a look at the project and see how it's progressing.	01:02:48
	All right. Otherwise, September 4th at 4:00 here.	01:02:54
	Yeah, yeah. So location to be determined. Yep.	01:02:58
	Here OK.	01:03:06
	I'm sorry I missed this. You are welcome.	01:03:12
	There's cringe at sticking money. Yeah, I'm good with that. Sure. Thank you.	01:03:14
	Guys ready for a tour? Yes, we are. Yep.	01:03:21
	Rate is going to be more than.	01:03:28
	Yeah, that just sucks. Yeah.	01:03:29
	What's happening? Maybe not, I don't know. Maybe there's good space heaters up there for them. I said, I said I I just cringe it	01:03:32
	seen sticking money at Henry Dodge.	01:03:37

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	Call the Building Committee meeting to order.	00:00:00
	Roll call Non committee supervisor attendance has been taken.	00:00:03
	We have no public comment here tonight.	00:00:08
	The approval of the minutes from the July 10th, 2025.	00:00:11
	So moved motion by Supervisor Kane. Seconded by Supervisor Coffell.	00:00:16
	Any corrections or additions to it?	00:00:22
	Not all in favor say aye.	00:00:26
	Aye, opposed.	00:00:28
	All right, that's carried.	00:00:29
	The master plan update.	00:00:32
	We have Brad.	00:00:34
	Kwasni from Venture here.	00:00:36
	To give us an update on where we're at, Bretton have a seat at the microphone and.	00:00:38
	Alright, well, so far we've met with.	00:00:46
	Every department head.	00:00:50
	And I believe we've toured every.	00:00:52
	Facility.	00:00:55
	Including all the highway facilities.	00:00:57
	We're gathering data.	00:00:59
	We've we've discussed.	00:01:03
	You know what works well, what doesn't work well?	00:01:05
	How places? How spaces should work?	00:01:08
	Just really in the.	00:01:12
	Collection phase and now we're.	00:01:13
	Coming up with ideas for.	00:01:15
	Where to go with it?	00:01:18
	Yeah.	00:01:19
	Coming up with options for you.	00:01:21
	OK.	00:01:23
	When do you think you'll have the final?	00:01:29
	Documents ready.	00:01:31
	Well, I know we're we're starting to look at pulling things together.	00:01:35
	You know, we've been, we've got one of the guys back at the office.	00:01:41
	Working up all the different square footages in all the departments. So it's.	00:01:45
	The ball is rolling now.	00:01:48
	I would think.	00:01:52
	Probably. Were we talking next month?	00:01:53
	Having something to show.	00:01:56
	Initially thinking like towards the end of September he might, I don't know if it'll be for September's board meeting or not, but	00:01:57
	he was thinking later in September that they would have.	00:02:01
	A plan down.	00:02:06
	I just curious that was still the timeline or if you know as and Corey will be at the August board meeting?	00:02:08
	Oh, you will. OK, that you guys have further questions, Cory will be?	00:02:16
	At that, OK.	00:02:20
	Good. So yeah, we just did finish up last Friday with the last three highway shops that we needed to go to.	00:02:22
	And we also did some extensive touring in the jail for some projects that the sheriff.	00:02:29
	Would like to see for some upgrades in the jail.	00:02:35
	So that was completed then and.	00:02:38
	That I really do think that so far the interviews and all that have gone real well. There's been a lot of looking at at.	00:02:42
	Spaces that are.	00:02:48
	Underutilized. Over utilized.	00:02:49
	I think we've probably met with most.	00:02:54
	Departments twice.	00:02:56
	So we've got.	00:02:59
	Had several.	00:03:01
	Walkthroughs sit down conversations. So we've we've gone through everything and given everyone.	00:03:03
	A couple cracks at.	00:03:08
	You know, a lot of times when you talk to somebody the first time.	00:03:09
	They kind of go.	00:03:12
	Oh, I didn't think of that. I didn't think of that. So right, we've grown back and talked with everyone a second time.	00:03:14
	Now that's good.	00:03:19
	Yeah, because usually when you leave, then they think, oh, I should ask them this. I should ask them that, you know. And as things	00:03:20
	pop up, they. They.	00:03:24
	Get, you know, send John an e-mail and he forwards it on. So we've been collecting a lot of stuff.	00:03:27
	Now you've done.	00:03:32
	Space studies before, right?	00:03:33
	Yes for other.	00:03:35
	Other places.	00:03:36
	Yep. Does anything stick out on this one that shocks you or?	00:03:37
	Compared to other ones, yeah.	00:03:43
	As far as?	00:03:47
	Available space not being used.	00:03:48
	You know in certain areas, right?	00:03:53
	All right. Certain areas there is a lot of space.	00:03:56
	Other areas are.	00:03:59
	You know, uh.	00:04:01
	They're overflowing, but there's a lot of spaces.	00:04:02
	With room to expand.	00:04:05
	A lot of times when you go through the first time, the first thought in your head is.	00:04:09
	This place has outlived its life.	00:04:14
	You know, there's just.	00:04:17
	There's too many people, there's too much stuff going on. It can't be done.	00:04:19
	Here.	00:04:22
	Preliminarily.	00:04:25
	We're thinking that.	00:04:27
	You know, there could be some renovations done that could.	00:04:29
	Make things much more efficient here.	00:04:33
	But we're just starting to look at all. Yeah, yeah. That's why I'm curious to see what what your outcome is on this is. And	00:04:35
	especially I think most of the supervisors are curious to see what the outcome is with the Henry Dodge building over there.	00:04:42
	Because that's what got most that has started.	00:04:49
	Is that aging building out there? And we're looking at sticking millions of dollars into it.	00:04:53
	And, umm.	00:04:59
	You know, umm.	00:05:00
	I would say that that building.	00:05:01
	This building are two entirely different stories.	00:05:03
	Yeah, umm.	00:05:06
	Yeah.	00:05:08
	Well, that's good. I think this is going to be money well spent.	00:05:10
	By the colony.	00:05:14
	And.	00:05:15
	Like some people said, you should really have a 20 year outlook.	00:05:17
	On your buildings.	00:05:21
	You know you shouldn't look at them.	00:05:22
	One year to the next, you should have a vision for what that should be down the road.	00:05:24
	And that's kind of why we went.	00:05:29
	This route.	00:05:31
	So.	00:05:33
	OK. I guess I don't have any other questions other than we were just curious when when you were going to have to report together?	00:05:36
	But you know, September, October, it doesn't matter. I mean, another month isn't gonna.	00:05:43
	Make a difference.	00:05:49
	Yeah, now, now we're.	00:05:50
	Pretty much getting to the point where it's.	00:05:52
	We're done collecting data or.	00:05:54
	It'll be just a little piece here in a little piece there that we're.	00:05:57
	We need to.	00:06:00
	Review.	00:06:02
	You know, we're taking all of our notes and compiling them and we might see.	00:06:03
	Like conflicting notes.	00:06:07
	So we might need.	00:06:08
	Just a.	00:06:10
	Verify some things.	00:06:10
	You know, we're going to start moving pieces around and looking at it as far as adjacencies.	00:06:13
	You know this department needs to be adjacent to this one because they work with them a lot. Don't need to be next to that one.	00:06:19
	And just.	00:06:25
	It's now. It's the time where we just put our head down.	00:06:26
	Work right?	00:06:29
	That's good. I'm glad you're looking at that because I just found out the other day that.	00:06:30
	One of the departments over in the courthouse moved over here and it was one that I think was childcare or something like that	00:06:35
	moved over here.	00:06:39
	And they work a lot with childcare. And it's like, well, why would you separate them out at a courthouse building?	00:06:43
	It was just a child support attorney.	00:06:49
	Child support attorney, OK.	00:06:52
	Yes.	00:06:54
	And I was just curious why they move them over here when?	00:06:55
	That I can't tell you, I know, I know, but I'm glad you guys are looking at all that stuff so that, you know, you can keep the	00:06:58
	departments together that are working together and that and I know that was Becky Bells.	00:07:04
	Biggest concern was not splitting them up over there because.	00:07:10
	They all work together and.	00:07:14
	People come in and they want to see, you know, they don't have to run at this building or that building.	00:07:16
	It's all in one spot, you know, frequently when people come in.	00:07:21
	And it's not just here, it's it's counties everywhere.	00:07:25
	They often need to.	00:07:29
	Speak to this department.	00:07:30
	And then this other department.	00:07:32
	And you know, they just work closely together. So we try and cluster things together. It's good, so.	00:07:34
	That's that's real good.	00:07:38
	Well, thank you very much for coming. I have no other questions for you. One question yet. Yep. I assume the sheriff is still	00:07:42
	lobbying for a new Sheriff's Office next to the jail.	00:07:47
	Was that feedback you got from talking to that department or?	00:07:53
	No, not necessarily.	00:07:58
	We just, we just walked through.	00:08:00
	With everyone and just say what works and what doesn't and we just.	00:08:03
	Tour the space and then.	00:08:07
	We just assess.	00:08:09
	You know, where are they? Where is their overcrowding? Where things?	00:08:10
	That don't work. Where can you maybe expand some things?	00:08:15
	So, so I wouldn't say that he.	00:08:20
	Was pushing for a new.	00:08:21
	OK, Office.	00:08:23
	But no.	00:08:25
	Because he did when he was here. Yeah, I know.	00:08:28
	And I made the mistake over speaking, so I shut my mouth and apologized all this supervisors for saying what I shouldn't have	00:08:32
	said. The Sheriff's Department definitely has some special needs and some serious storage needs.	00:08:39
	Whether that can be handled through renovation or if they really need new space.	00:08:47
	German now.	00:08:52
	No.	00:08:53
	And yeah, they need a.	00:08:57
	I knew what is the evidence?	00:08:58
	Evidence base and.	00:09:00
	Evidence is one of the big things over there that it's not.	00:09:02
	Environmentally controlled correctly and and we just did run some emergency power into there because when we had the tornado.	00:09:06
	Their freezers and refrigerators were not on emergency circuits and.	00:09:13
	So yeah, there there's some issues with the evidence storage area there not being large enough, not being environmentally	00:09:18
	controlled.	00:09:22
	That sort of thing.	00:09:27
	Anybody.	00:09:34
	Anybody else got any questions for Brad?	00:09:34
	Well, Brad, I think it for coming tonight. Appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate all you're doing looking forward on this project come	00:09:37
	up with yes, yes.	00:09:41
	Hopefully you're happy once you see it. Well, yeah, anytime you're spending money.	00:09:45
	You're not going to be happy, but.	00:09:50
	At least it's a vision for what it looks like.	00:09:52
	Down the road. So thank you.	00:09:55
	The goal is to give you options to write.	00:09:57
	All right. Thanks. Thank you. Right, thanks.	00:10:00
	All right. Next we got discussed current and future facility department policies.	00:10:05
	So the reason this came up is I was looking at the little county directory that Danielle publishes and one of the.	00:10:11
	Duties of this committee is to approve the policies of the Facilities Department.	00:10:21
	So I kind of got looking through that and I could only find 4.	00:10:26
	Policies that we currently have.	00:10:29
	And only two of those were actually approved by.	00:10:32
	The building committee.	00:10:35
	And the other reason this came up is with the issue with the District Attorney wanting a different color paint in one of their	00:10:37
	rooms that we don't have.	00:10:41
	So we were kind of talking about, you know, should we come up with a policy on.	00:10:45
	Painting room colors.	00:10:49
	And the other one that came up is Becky Bell recently asked the question.	00:10:51
	If there was any policies or procedures because they will be having therapy animals in the Henry Dodge building, no.	00:10:57
	And so this kind of all played together. I started looking at this and.	00:11:05
	I'm going to ask what you guys think. Would you like to start reviewing maybe one of these once a month?	00:11:11
	What I would like to do is if you guys have seen any of the HR policies, there's actually.	00:11:18
	Kind of like a template that Tanya has where you put the policy name, you put the data was adopted, you have room for revision	00:11:24
	dates.	00:11:28
	That sort of thing. Is that something you would like to see for any?	00:11:32
	Facilities.	00:11:37
	Policies to follow that same template in.	00:11:38
	Be a little more formal than what they are now.	00:11:42
	So I guess I'd like some feedback from you guys.	00:11:46
	It'd be a good idea.	00:11:50
	School boards, they all the policies that you you need to have.	00:11:51
	That sort of.	00:11:56
	Layoff.	00:11:57
	I would agree if that's the, if that's this, this department's jurisdiction, we should be doing it. Yep.	00:12:00
	Yep, Yep.	00:12:06
	And match you use I guess you know, I've seen Tanya's.	00:12:09
	HR.	00:12:13
	Job descriptions and different things.	00:12:14
	That formats OK if it.	00:12:16
	You know if it's something that you could work with or if you.	00:12:18
	Have something better?	00:12:20
	I think I think it'd be.	00:12:23
	Just easier to just take her template that she uses and and use that for our type of policies.	00:12:24
	Also and give them a formal name. Give them a formal number and.	00:12:30
	And that sort of thing. So if that's what you guys would like to do, I think you know next month we would start with.	00:12:34
	The first one, I'll show you what we have and.	00:12:39
	Go through it and.	00:12:42
	You think there needs to be some revisions or something like that? We could start reviewing one a month.	00:12:43
	Sure. There's only four. That's all I have right now. But if we do the painting, that would be 5. And if we do something with, you	00:12:48
	know, service animals or anything like that, that would be 6. And what other counties have, maybe it can.	00:12:55
	Steal some.	00:13:02
	Policies from them or something, if we have reached out to other counties, I don't know, asking what they do?	00:13:03
	Now for those types of things, but.	00:13:10
	So that's the direction that you guys would like to go. Then we would start with one next month I would get something ready.	00:13:13
	For you guys and have that on the agenda for next month.	00:13:18
	That's a very good idea, Yeah. And if you could eat packet ahead of time, I was just gonna say if you could e-mail that test so we	00:13:20
	can read it over.	00:13:24
	Before we come in trying to read it, think right, right, OK.	00:13:29
	So is this something we should do every year, then review the policies or?	00:13:34
	I don't know if you need to do them every year, but I think you know.	00:13:37
	One of these was from like 2020 and one was like from 18 or something like that or older.	00:13:41
	And then there was one that Russ had sent out to all department heads that was not officially approved by.	00:13:47
	This committee, but it was back from 07.	00:13:54
	So it's just something I think we should.	00:13:56
	You know, review and update as necessary and.	00:13:58
	OK, just make it a little more.	00:14:03
	Formal.	00:14:04
	And if you have any suggestions to put them in with the.	00:14:07
	What you e-mail us, you know what you think should be changed or added or whatever.	00:14:11
	So that when we come to the meeting we have that information and we can decide on it then.	00:14:16
	Sounds good.	00:14:21
	Right. All right. Update on the air conditioner repairs. So our air conditioner was fixed. They finished it this week here at the	00:14:22
	admin building. So now we do have full capacity on our air conditioner. So that's good.	00:14:30
	Our rooftop unit #2 at Henry Dodge, that's the one that we talked about last month. I had a compressor go out.	00:14:39
	The estimate to fix it was 6550. It turned out to be 7260, so there was another $710.	00:14:48
	Because they also found that there was a hole in the coil and we had no freon left.	00:14:58
	So that got just a little bit more expensive than what we had anticipated.	00:15:03
	I have reached out to Masters Building Solutions, our service contractor on the Henry Dodge 1.	00:15:08
	I've asked them several times that they still cannot give me an answer on when the other circuit.	00:15:16
	Will be fixed on that one.	00:15:21
	Umm. It does keep the building somewhat cool on one circuit, but it's not really taking a lot of humidity out of the building. At	00:15:24
	Henry Dodge, it does get a little muggy in the building.	00:15:29
	So we would like to get that.	00:15:35
	Finished we just.	00:15:37
	Are not getting an answer from them on when they can get that completed.	00:15:38
	So do they have the part or?	00:15:42
	Are they having issues with the part or?	00:15:45
	What it is, is inside each compressor there's something called a thermistor.	00:15:48
	And that is what will kick the compressor off if it gets too hot.	00:15:53
	And the thermistor which is only a couple dollar part.	00:15:58
	To change that, you need to disassemble the whole compressor and.	00:16:03
	All that sort of thing to replace this.	00:16:07
	So what the technician has told me they have done at other places is they've actually just used.	00:16:09
	Band clamps.	00:16:15
	Clamped on a.	00:16:17
	Thermostat sensor to the outside of the compressor and then wired that into their control boards.	00:16:19
	But he said he cannot go ahead and do that without approval from.	00:16:25
	Dickens Engineers, the company that made the.	00:16:30
	Unit.	00:16:33
	To make sure that they're using the right components and doing all this and that. So I believe that that is what the holdup is.	00:16:34
	Is not getting a answer back from the **** and engineers.	00:16:40
	Letting them.	00:16:45
	Do that to this unit.	00:16:46
	That makes sense. Is that unit under warranty yet that Dakin would really have? No, we put that in in 16 I think.	00:16:49
	I mean.	00:16:59
	There's no warranty. You what? There's no warranty.	00:17:00
	What do they care? You know, I mean, I that was going to be my suggestion. It's true internal.	00:17:03
	Pressure control, outer temperature, you know, control. And that's what they have done elsewhere too. But he said he can't do it	00:17:08
	without getting an approval from their engineers.	00:17:12
	So I will be pursuing that again. But like I said, as of last week when I asked, I've sent several emails to him and they said,	00:17:16
	well, we haven't heard back yet, so.	00:17:22
	I will be reaching out to them again to.	00:17:27
	Keep on them.	00:17:30
	We're going to go the most expensive for all it so they can get involved with it, you know?	00:17:32
	That hole in the coil, is that from the tornado?	00:17:39
	No.	00:17:42
	No, that was just something that.	00:17:43
	Have one.	00:17:45
	Just warned it cracked on that one of the copper tubes where it comes around the.	00:17:46
	The end of the coil and comes back in again. It interact on the end.	00:17:52
	OK.	00:17:55
	That can just happen from expansion and contraction over the term.	00:17:57
	You know, age because actually the the other one.	00:18:02
	Rooftop Unit 1 had that earlier this year where it cracked down. The end.	00:18:07
	Also, and they had to.	00:18:12
	Solder up the coil and.	00:18:14
	Fill it back up with freon. So actually both coils had an issue this year.	00:18:16
	And she said, same age.	00:18:21
	Yeah.	00:18:23
	All right, very good.	00:18:27
	Any questions from anybody?	00:18:29
	No, then we'll move on. Tornado damage update.	00:18:32
	Umm, so all we've really got left up at the Henry Dodge building is to.	00:18:36
	Get the light pole repaired.	00:18:43
	We did trim some trees last week. We had Rockies in here to trim some trees for some branches that were.	00:18:46
	Damaged from the tornado, they were up higher in the trees where they were. They were up there yet, but they were snapped off and.	00:18:53
	The branches were dead, so we got those out of there.	00:18:59
	The one tree.	00:19:03
	They asked me about it. It does not look real great.	00:19:04
	Right now it's a locust tree.	00:19:07
	So they had to take a bunch out of the center. So you got kind of some over here and come over here and the middle's kind of bare.	00:19:09
	Umm, they said it may.	00:19:16
	Kind of fill back in, it may not, but I said at this point I am not going to do anything else with it or take it down, just not	00:19:18
	knowing what the disposition of that building is going to be long term.	00:19:24
	It's a good idea to spend the money on taking it down. Right now we're doing anything else with it until we.	00:19:30
	Have a firm idea what's going to go on up there?	00:19:35
	And since our last meeting, the fence was repaired down at the sheriff's impound building, so that's done.	00:19:40
	And.	00:19:48
	We did send in the air conditioner coil repair A.	00:19:50
	To the insurance adjuster.	00:19:56
	That we would like that one repaired.	00:19:58
	Versus replacing the whole unit. We have not heard back from the adjuster yet if they're approving that.	00:20:02
	And for our one on the courthouse roof?	00:20:08
	We did have Trained come out and take a look at it and I am still waiting for train to give us a price on that so I can get that	00:20:12
	turned into the insurance adjuster.	00:20:17
	Is that one of the new ones?	00:20:24
	No.	00:20:26
	No, that's one that is scheduled to be on the CIP plan to be replaced next year.	00:20:27
	Good.	00:20:32
	Our luck would be who was one of the new ones.	00:20:35
	But OK.	00:20:38
	Good.	00:20:38
	All right. Anybody got any more questions for him?	00:20:41
	OK. Then we'll move on to elevator repair update.	00:20:45
	So yes, this one has been out of service for seven weeks here already. I did send.	00:20:49
	Otis, an e-mail the other day requesting a formal written explanation to bring to you folks tonight.	00:20:55
	Of when this will be fixed.	00:21:02
	I did not get that.	00:21:03
	She told me yesterday she had a meeting this morning at 9:30 with her service team and she would know.	00:21:05
	I called her this afternoon and yeah, I'm still waiting for an answer.	00:21:11
	So.	00:21:15
	So you company with customer, no service.	00:21:17
	Yeah, that's a popular theme nowadays.	00:21:21
	Yes it is. Yes, it is.	00:21:24
	So yes, I am still waiting for an answer. I really hope to have something for you guys in writing for today and it didn't happen.	00:21:26
	You said that you are all getting quotes for.	00:21:34
	Maintenance on them.	00:21:37
	Elevators.	00:21:38
	So there's other companies that do that kind of work.	00:21:40
	We got.	00:21:43
	Quotes from 4 different service providers. Otis was not one of them because they are not underneath the State of Wisconsin service	00:21:44
	contract.	00:21:47
	So we did get.	00:21:51
	The quotes.	00:21:53
	OK.	00:21:54
	Which leads into our next elevator repair here.	00:21:56
	We had the door opener go out on the visitation elevator in the jail.	00:22:00
	And oldest being our service provider gave us a quote that they wanted 42,200 some dollars to fix it.	00:22:05
	And I talked to our service tech and I said, you know, that's kind of.	00:22:15
	That's kind of crazy.	00:22:20
	So he went back to the office and.	00:22:22
	Magically within 12 hours.	00:22:25
	It dropped down to $31,100.	00:22:29
	Drop $11,100.	00:22:32
	Just like that.	00:22:34
	Because you questioned it.	00:22:36
	Yes.	00:22:38
	So that left me with a really bad.	00:22:39
	Image of oldest that they were willing to.	00:22:43
	Try to charge us that much when we have a service contract with them and we've been a longtime customer of them.	00:22:45
	That didn't set very well, so I called two of the companies that bid on our future service contract.	00:22:51
	Schindler who?	00:23:01
	Made the elevators in the jail, in the courthouse.	00:23:02
	They did ask some further questions. I sent them some pictures.	00:23:05
	And that was the last I heard from.	00:23:09
	Minnesota Elevator, the company that did have the lowest bid.	00:23:12
	They were on the phone right away saying can we send some people out to take a look?	00:23:17
	They did come the next day with the service tech and a supervisor. They spent about an hour and a half troubleshooting it.	00:23:22
	Two days later, they had a formal proposal.	00:23:30
	And instead of 31,000 it was under 6700.	00:23:34
	Oh my God.	00:23:38
	I signed that proposal.	00:23:40
	On last week, Thursday afternoon.	00:23:42
	They were there at 8:00.	00:23:46
	Friday morning and it was up running in an hour and 15 minutes. Oh my gosh.	00:23:47
	Can we do the same thing with that elevator? Work well in this elevator?	00:23:56
	That should be covered under our service agreement, OK.	00:24:02
	As far as I'm.	00:24:07
	Aware that is under our service agreement so.	00:24:08
	The elevator is no serving. Yeah. Are they similar to like the Henry Dodge where they're getting that old and out of date and hard	00:24:13
	to find parts for?	00:24:17
	This one was just upgraded 10 years ago. It was all redone.	00:24:23
	OK.	00:24:26
	The one on the South end is original from 1996.	00:24:28
	But but the Henry Dodges are from the 60s.	00:24:33
	Right, but those were all redone 2 years ago.	00:24:37
	Yeah, OK. The two that we are operating are all.	00:24:39
	Revamped with new drives.	00:24:43
	Cars are all redone and.	00:24:46
	What is, what did that cost at that time? There was.	00:24:48
	Is 500 some thousand? Yeah, it was quite a bit close to.	00:24:51
	Wow and we only did two of the elevators. The other two we yellow taped off.	00:24:56
	So Minnesota Elevator, the company that did do the repair on the Jail 1, was also the low bidder for our service contract.	00:25:02
	That we looked at.	00:25:11
	So, umm.	00:25:12
	We have not formally sent Otis a non renewal notice.	00:25:13
	We did not want to do that until this one is fixed, right?	00:25:17
	I don't want to get in the situation where all of a sudden they say, well, we can't get parts, we can't get parts and all of a	00:25:21
	sudden we're past December 31st and well, now it's your problem. We don't have a service contract anymore.	00:25:26
	So I don't want to get to that. That's why we're not sending out the non renewal notice at this time.	00:25:32
	So it runs from the first of the year till December 31st or contract. You always just do a one year deal with.	00:25:37
	The company, those were three.	00:25:44
	#3 year deals and this is the end of their third year then yes.	00:25:46
	OK.	00:25:49
	Now the one at the jail that wasn't covered under our service agreement with them or?	00:25:51
	No, because the part is obsolete.	00:25:55
	Oh, is that right?	00:25:58
	OK, so we were saved by doing it the way you did it. Yes, having them come in and.	00:25:59
	Do it for 25,000.	00:26:04
	Actually more because it was 42 and then I went to 31 and then he did 6700. It's like.	00:26:08
	Boy, that Minnesota elevator, are they coming out of Minnesota or did they have a company around here?	00:26:15
	No, they they, they have a branch in Madison. They have a branch in Milwaukee.	00:26:21
	They're in several other states also, but they are based out of Mankato, MN. OK.	00:26:25
	So their actual price was 666289.	00:26:31
	Wow, that's crazy.	00:26:36
	Just shows how they're going to gorgeous that bad.	00:26:40
	You know, no.	00:26:43
	So I was very happy with their responsiveness and their price.	00:26:46
	I'd say.	00:26:51
	Says a lot and we must want our business.	00:26:54
	Yep.	00:26:56
	OK, that's good.	00:26:59
	Would it be?	00:27:04
	What a letter from corporate counsel to Otis and say hey, this thing has been down for.	00:27:05
	This long, you know you're under contract repair, it's done. We have discussed that, yes, I think we're pretty close to that	00:27:10
	point.	00:27:13
	Where's Otis out of?	00:27:18
	Where do they come from?	00:27:21
	Milwaukee Madison area tour.	00:27:22
	The we get service out of the Madison branch, but yeah, they're.	00:27:24
	Yeah, they're a very large conglomerate, so it's not like they're that far away.	00:27:28
	No.	00:27:33
	No, but they're not under the state.	00:27:34
	Contract.	00:27:37
	No, there's only four.	00:27:38
	Companies underneath the state contract. One is Schindler, 1 is Coney, 1 is Minnesota Elevator, and the other one is Express	00:27:41
	Elevator out of Milwaukee.	00:27:45
	So that says something about oldest student if they're not.	00:27:50
	Under the state.	00:27:54
	Contract, OK.	00:27:56
	All right, we will move on at a 2526 budget update.	00:28:01
	My goal was to have my budget done for you guys for this meeting. I didn't make that goal.	00:28:07
	Had some other things going on but.	00:28:13
	Phil and I have been working on the budget.	00:28:14
	Um, we're part way through that.	00:28:19
	We're going to try to hold it at where we are for this year. I know there's been some increases in parts costs and things like	00:28:22
	that, but we are going to try to hold that.	00:28:26
	We are also looking at, you know, we have to do our budget projections for the rest of the year.	00:28:30
	We're part way through that also. I don't see anything that would.	00:28:36
	'Cause any alarm at this point.	00:28:40
	I know for the administration building our service repairs to some of our things we had.	00:28:43
	Quite a few unanticipated ones.	00:28:48
	That's going to kind of put us over on that account. But we also did look at electric and I think right now we're 20 to $25,000	00:28:51
	under on our electric for just this building.	00:28:56
	So I think we'll we'll be OK.	00:29:02
	With that and.	00:29:05
	We've got some other ones in some different buildings that are trending under as well as a little bit over on some of them so.	00:29:06
	I don't think there's really any cause for alarm on our 2025 projections for meeting.	00:29:12
	Our budget either.	00:29:17
	Yeah, I was just going to ask you to Henry Dodge is a law enforcement and the courts building, John.	00:29:21
	I did notice that we were getting close to or over our.	00:29:27
	Our usage on them buildings is any of that due to the storm damage?	00:29:31
	Is them storm damage numbers going into that?	00:29:35
	Into them, numbers or not.	00:29:40
	Yes they do, but it gets coded as something else, right Barb?	00:29:44
	For the storm damage, yeah.	00:29:49
	Yeah, there's a whole separate.	00:29:51
	Call for anything that has to do with storm damage.	00:29:54
	So that ain't part of them numbers that are in that actual.	00:29:58
	Budget to actual report.	00:30:02
	OK.	00:30:04
	All right.	00:30:05
	Very good.	00:30:08
	All right. Any other questions from anyone on that?	00:30:11
	I think we're good on our labor. We did our labor projections for the rest of the year and also for 2026 and I think we're good in	00:30:14
	those areas too.	00:30:18
	I mean, we're not.	00:30:23
	Adding any additional staff or anything and I think we're pretty good on our labor projections.	00:30:24
	For wages and I mean or.	00:30:30
	So did you just use what?	00:30:32
	What they decided at the Finance Committee meeting.	00:30:34
	2.64 or whatever as a.	00:30:37
	There there's numbers that finance has built into the spreadsheets and then we just need to, OK.	00:30:39
	Make sure that our full-time equivalents are correct and that.	00:30:44
	It's all correct in what?	00:30:49
	You know, benefit package people are taking whether it's a single or a family and, and that sort of thing and.	00:30:50
	If we.	00:30:57
	Anticipate somebody retiring or something. We would put that in there with a date and you know if you were going to bring somebody	00:30:59
	new one to replace them, they'd probably starting out at Step 1. So you put those things in there.	00:31:04
	For your the rest of your 2025 as well as if you had something going on in 26.	00:31:10
	OK.	00:31:15
	All right, then we'll move on to the Phyllis Facility Directors reports.	00:31:20
	Building repairs and improvements.	00:31:25
	I had intended to get some pictures of the Henry Dodge parking lot. I thought I had them, but apparently I didn't.	00:31:28
	We have a lot of potholes in that parking lot right now that need to be repaired. The concern is we did have somebody fall last	00:31:35
	winter.	00:31:39
	That tripped on one there were the blacktop was about an inch and a half to two inches lower than.	00:31:43
	The part next to it, part of it, had sunk away.	00:31:51
	So I was up there with Highway a couple weeks ago.	00:31:54
	They do have everything marked out with paint of where they're going to patch and repair.	00:31:57
	I'm not sure what that is going to cost me at this time because there is a significant number of potholes where the blacktop is	00:32:05
	just disintegrating where they actually need to.	00:32:09
	More than just spill in a hole where they actually need to cut.	00:32:14
	Some out and redo it.	00:32:17
	And there's also in the center of the lot along the Wild Goose Trail. There's two storm drains there.	00:32:22
	And there's just a little Swale. We're kind of pitches to the center and runs to the drains.	00:32:28
	A lot of that has just disintegrated into powder and that needs to be cut out the whole length of that probably.	00:32:32
	4 to foot wide.	00:32:39
	A piece of blacked out the length of that parking lot between those two storm drains where they're gonna have to do that.	00:32:41
	But the goal is to not have anybody fall and have any injuries out there in the parking lot, so we need to get these things done.	00:32:47
	The parking lots been in the capital plan in the last couple years, but again.	00:32:54
	We've been pushing it off just based on not knowing.	00:32:59
	What the long term?	00:33:02
	Use of that building is going to be.	00:33:03
	So we'll patch it up as best we can with.	00:33:07
	What we have available.	00:33:10
	Our Register of Deeds entryway has been completed.	00:33:15
	And we're going to take a look at that when we come back in from the Plaza. I think that turned out quite nice.	00:33:18
	The only thing left on it is the door needs to be stained and that is happening this weekend when one of my guys is working this	00:33:24
	weekend he's going to work on.	00:33:29
	Getting the door stained and sealed and then that will be complete.	00:33:33
	Super.	00:33:39
	We've had the roofing company out several times for the Sheriff's Office leaks, and I know we talked about that last month.	00:33:41
	And and.	00:33:48
	We have leaks again.	00:33:49
	Umm, So what we're going to do is we're going to go with our staff up there. We're going to.	00:33:51
	Take our plastic shovels. Remove as much of the rock as we can in those areas.	00:33:56
	And we did buy some, some patch kits at Menards that we're going to see if we can just locate the rest of those versus.	00:34:01
	Having the roofing company come out again.	00:34:09
	We we think we can.	00:34:13
	Find the rest of them and do it ourselves at a much cheaper rate than.	00:34:14
	Paying the rougher.	00:34:19
	Every time they've come out, they have found additional leaks. It's just that.	00:34:21
	They haven't found all of them.	00:34:25
	We keep getting.	00:34:27
	Issues every time it rains so.	00:34:29
	Not to change the subject, but.	00:34:32
	Camera and you know when that CIP is going to come out where we.	00:34:34
	The survey or the final Doctor?	00:34:38
	Survey went out today. Oh, it did go out.	00:34:40
	OK, so everybody look at that.	00:34:43
	But we should really push.	00:34:45
	The other supervisors to move.	00:34:47
	Sheriff's Office.	00:34:50
	Up on that CIP.	00:34:51
	That's of utmost importance because if we're getting leaks now seems to be deteriorating rapidly. We did not have any leaks the	00:34:53
	last three or four years on there and.	00:34:58
	They just keep coming this year.	00:35:03
	And how old is it?	00:35:04
	I wasn't exactly sure when it was put on.	00:35:07
	OK.	00:35:10
	I did see in every year we have, we have Christensen Roofing, they do a building roof assessment on all of our buildings. We pay	00:35:14
	them to come out and they any places that need repair they do.	00:35:19
	And I just found the other day their report from 2022 that said the life expectancy of the roof is one year or less.	00:35:25
	OK, a little past that.	00:35:35
	So how do we?	00:35:39
	How do we put that out to the supervisors letting them know that that roof needs to be replaced? I mean, it's.	00:35:41
	It shots the details. The details for every project are in the survey.	00:35:47
	OK.	00:35:51
	OK, those will get and then and then.	00:35:53
	You all and the rest of the 33 will.	00:35:57
	We'll get a chance to rate them.	00:36:00
	Then we'll take all that information and use that to help prioritize projects. But ultimately.	00:36:02
	There's also sitting down with.	00:36:07
	John.	00:36:09
	Brian over at the highway.	00:36:10
	Department and a few others.	00:36:12
	And working through OK what absolutely, absolutely needs to happen.	00:36:14
	And so that final.	00:36:18
	Once we've done that and had that conversation.	00:36:20
	Then the county board Finance Committee first.	00:36:22
	Probably, I'm guessing.	00:36:26
	And then we'll be where we.	00:36:28
	Draw the resolution from for a sponsoring resolution.	00:36:30
	But then it would go to the.	00:36:33
	September county board meeting.	00:36:35
	For further discussion and hopefully action.	00:36:38
	So that's the, that's the process and that information about the need to replace.	00:36:41
	Is already in that.	00:36:46
	In that survey.	00:36:48
	But you all have.	00:36:49
	Extra, I guess, additional knowledge because you've actually you're here in this, yeah.	00:36:51
	You're on the committee.	00:36:56
	So I mean.	00:36:58
	Yeah, my suggestion is just to go ahead and do the survey, but.	00:37:00
	Know that I also know where the roof is at.	00:37:03
	And that's help.	00:37:06
	That means that's gonna.	00:37:07
	Need to get.	00:37:09
	Place.	00:37:10
	OK, so hopefully I wrote my narrative well enough to sell the project.	00:37:11
	Otherwise, I'm going to have to go out with John's.	00:37:17
	Replace the roof every time it.	00:37:22
	Yeah.	00:37:23
	All right.	00:37:27
	And they don't use the ballasted systems very much anymore. You know, they use that.	00:37:28
	Fully adhered system so you can find a leak 1.	00:37:33
	Yes.	00:37:36
	What do you mean?	00:37:38
	Much better. They put a, they put a fiberboard, screw a fiberboard to the deck and then glue the membrane to that. Yeah.	00:37:39
	So there's no stone on it anymore. So you can.	00:37:46
	Find a leak, OK Stone, and they call it a ballast. It's just OK. And they don't do that no more.	00:37:49
	Just not that never, but it's not as common every.	00:37:55
	OK, yes, that one is a ballasted rope with the TPO.	00:37:58
	Roofing OK.	00:38:01
	And we changed them on the courthouse that time when we did.	00:38:03
	That that is a rubber membrane, but it is a ballasted rope, right?	00:38:07
	OK.	00:38:11
	OK.	00:38:13
	Our medical area in the jail we are having issues with the floor tile and the corridor and where the.	00:38:16
	The nurses.	00:38:24
	Station is there.	00:38:25
	We had that replaced.	00:38:27
	5-6 years ago.	00:38:29
	The original flooring was.	00:38:31
	Worn out. And so we had.	00:38:33
	Vinyl squares put in by two Higgs up in Fond du Lac who does most of our flooring work.	00:38:36
	That vinyl just never worked.	00:38:44
	Out they've tried several different glues on it.	00:38:46
	And we still have problems that.	00:38:50
	The the vinyl itself just keeps expanding.	00:38:52
	And so your seams eventually start to buckle up, and they take a little.	00:38:56
	Make a little trip hazard.	00:39:00
	So we've worked on these several times where we take the tile up, you take a utility knife and just cut a real thin sliver off of	00:39:02
	it, put it back down.	00:39:06
	We just can't.	00:39:13
	Keep doing it down, it just keeps expanding so.	00:39:14
	What we did, we have not.	00:39:18
	Done the repair yet but we have taken 3 of the tiles out that were in bad shape that were a trip hazard.	00:39:19
	And we're going to take that all out. We're going to put vinyl plank flooring in there ourselves. We're going to my guys are going	00:39:25
	to do that.	00:39:28
	Then I think that'll be a better solution that floating vinyl plank flooring.	00:39:32
	So that's what we're going to do in our medical area and if that works good there. We have the same tile in our intake area in the	00:39:37
	jail.	00:39:41
	It's not a real large area, but it's something that we could do there also because we've had the same issue.	00:39:45
	There with tiles coming up.	00:39:51
	The vinyl plank works fine for just foot traffic, but if it's under a desk?	00:39:54
	And the rollers are rolling over, it will start flexing and breaking the edges.	00:39:59
	But we're hoping that if we put floor mat down over the top of it, we're hoping that that's going to take some of that.	00:40:04
	Yes, you definitely want to get a map done.	00:40:11
	Or wherever there's a.	00:40:13
	So that's our goal with that.	00:40:17
	In that area.	00:40:18
	Fix that problem.	00:40:20
	Clearview needs some sidewalk repair, so I'm working on developing a proposal for that with our purchasing agent so that can get	00:40:23
	it is over the 5000 limit for a public works project so.	00:40:28
	It does need some specs drawn up for it and I will work with Trista on that. I will get those.	00:40:34
	Drawn up and published and we'll get that out forbid yet this year and.	00:40:42
	See if we can get that repaired up there.	00:40:46
	I didn't have this on the agenda, but I guess I'm just looking for a consensus from the group here.	00:40:54
	I will be taking something to finance on Monday for using jail improvement funds for a camera upgrade in H pod.	00:40:59
	And the total on that is like 31,500.	00:41:07
	There is plenty of money in the jail improvement fund, there's like 80,000 in there.	00:41:11
	And.	00:41:16
	So between myself and Scott Smith, we.	00:41:18
	Thought that this was the best route to go is to seek jail improvement funds for that camera project for the jail.	00:41:20
	So just bringing that.	00:41:27
	To you guys and let you know what we're doing and.	00:41:28
	They're not cameras in it now, or they're there. There is.	00:41:32
	But it's additional seven additional.	00:41:36
	Cameras, I don't know if I have that with me or not.	00:41:38
	I don't think I do.	00:41:45
	There's there's five sections that have some blind spots.	00:41:47
	In there.	00:41:50
	And the inmates are very good at finding where those blind spots are. So this will.	00:41:52
	This will get us that the bid from Elm Star was just under 25,000 for all the cabling.	00:41:58
	The conduit, the raceways, the wire mold, the cabling, the terminating of the ends of the.	00:42:05
	CAT6 cable.	00:42:11
	Testing the cables, all that sort of thing.	00:42:13
	And then the camera price from accurate controls was just under 7000 and.	00:42:16
	Accurate is also our integrator with.	00:42:22
	Getting the cameras.	00:42:26
	Into our system and also putting the graphics on the computer screens for the officer station so they can bring up that section	00:42:28
	said yes, I want to look at this camera. They click on the camera and it pops up on your screen.	00:42:33
	On what's going on in that area.	00:42:39
	So the total was 31532.	00:42:41
	And that'll be going to finance on.	00:42:44
	Monday for use of jail assessment fund.	00:42:47
	OK.	00:42:49
	So most of that cost is labor over the product.	00:42:52
	Pretty much so it's installation solution because you're going through secured block walls. Above the block walls are poured.	00:42:55
	Slush full of concrete.	00:43:03
	L Star has done work in the jail before, they have done cameras in this section before, so they do know what they're getting	00:43:06
	themselves into.	00:43:11
	They do have our prints, they know where their conduits run so.	00:43:15
	It's advantageous for us to use them again versus starting with somebody new.	00:43:19
	So.	00:43:26
	Very good.	00:43:27
	As far as operations, we are working through interviews to fill our vacant lead mechanic position.	00:43:30
	We had seven applications. We were going to interview 6 people. We've got 4 done and we had another one withdraws application this	00:43:38
	afternoon. So.	00:43:43
	I did reach out to the last one and he has not responded to my emails, so we may just go with the four applicants that we had and.	00:43:48
	Pick one from there but.	00:43:56
	We are working on filling that lead position.	00:43:58
	You got decent applicants or?	00:44:02
	Yes, yes.	00:44:03
	Good. Yes, we do.	00:44:04
	Did the one say why he withdrew?	00:44:06
	You give any reason?	00:44:09
	I did not know until this afternoon he actually is a.	00:44:12
	Mechanic up at Clearview.	00:44:16
	And I talked to Adam, the director of a Clearview today, and I asked him if he thought.	00:44:18
	I said he didn't respond to my e-mail.	00:44:25
	I said, is he still interested? And Adam said well.	00:44:27
	He put in his two week notice that he's done on the 15th because he's starting a new job on the 18th. I said, well, I guess he	00:44:31
	doesn't want to work for Dodge County then.	00:44:34
	Oh, OK.	00:44:37
	I just found that out late this afternoon.	00:44:42
	They do? Do they do exit interviews with?	00:44:44
	Employees when they leave or not.	00:44:48
	You do so you could find out if it was.	00:44:50
	Wages or a fuse?	00:44:53
	Unhappy with?	00:44:54
	Things so they are not mandated to have that exit interview.	00:44:56
	But they are called and come and requested to have one.	00:45:01
	If they do, then yes, that information would be.	00:45:04
	Available April. Does the interviews.	00:45:08
	Generally because where our organization is as large as it is.	00:45:10
	They keep those notes, but.	00:45:15
	It's only when there are.	00:45:17
	Certain significant flags that they will let me know and then we'll go out and.	00:45:19
	Discuss with.	00:45:23
	With the department directors.	00:45:24
	So we can.	00:45:26
	And I can endorse it, John, if you wanted to find out, you know, we could go and figure out what it was.	00:45:28
	If there was anything.	00:45:33
	He has not been here that long. He's only been here a few months.	00:45:35
	OK. Well, then he might not. Yeah. So I don't know if he didn't like it or this was a much better opportunity or what it is. They	00:45:38
	are really more money.	00:45:42
	Yeah, could be, but they don't have to do an exit interview. They can turn it down. They.	00:45:45
	They are not required so.	00:45:50
	We have to offer it, but they can turn it down if they.	00:45:53
	Right. Something that we offer because we want to get that feedback right.	00:45:56
	But.	00:46:00
	We if they don't come.	00:46:02
	Not likely necessarily. Can fire on. Yeah, right.	00:46:04
	So that's why I say it's OK.	00:46:10
	We also do.	00:46:12
	Stay interviews.	00:46:14
	So when people are.	00:46:16
	I forget what the timeline is.	00:46:19
	John, do you remember? No, I don't. I don't. But I know that they've done them.	00:46:20
	Yes, they do. And those those happen frequently, probably weekly. There are some that are accomplished.	00:46:24
	At least monthly.	00:46:31
	I'm thinking weekly.	00:46:32
	The.	00:46:33
	Yeah, just to check in with people after.	00:46:35
	Three months. Six months.	00:46:37
	Years.	00:46:39
	But.	00:46:41
	Good. We do those. Try to glean what?	00:46:42
	What's keeping them here? What's?	00:46:45
	Sending them on their way.	00:46:48
	Yep, Good. Yeah, in the case of, I guess, since he was only here a few months.	00:46:49
	That might not have gotten on anybody's radar, but.	00:46:54
	Help. I don't know.	00:46:58
	OK.	00:47:00
	I do have an open night shift custodian position our.	00:47:03
	We had a gentleman up at Henry Dodge on night shift there. He has only been here about 2 1/2 months and he decided that was not	00:47:08
	for him and he left.	00:47:13
	So we are recruiting for a night shift.	00:47:19
	Also.	00:47:22
	And that's for at the jail or?	00:47:23
	It will be at the jail.	00:47:26
	I had somebody on days that wanted to go to nights.	00:47:29
	That wanted that position up there.	00:47:32
	And my night shift custodian at the jail.	00:47:35
	Would like to go today's.	00:47:40
	So we have a little bit of reshuffling, so it will end up as a.	00:47:42
	PM Custodian position in the jail facility.	00:47:47
	OK.	00:47:51
	So, so far we've got three applications. I have not set up interviews yet, but we'll be working on that tomorrow setting those up.	00:47:55
	I have not attended any of the Clearview construction meetings as of yet, but I will be starting that. I will be off next Tuesday	00:48:07
	when they have their next one, but after that the following week on the 19th. I.	00:48:13
	Intend to start attending those as my schedule permits.	00:48:19
	So I can keep up to date on what's going on with their construction project.	00:48:23
	That's every week they have a media Tuesdays at like 8:00 in the morning.	00:48:28
	OK.	00:48:33
	Good, good.	00:48:36
	We've been coordinating with the Master Gardeners, with the garden at the jail, that and also the CBRF. That's where our fresh	00:48:37
	produce is.	00:48:42
	Ending up.	00:48:47
	Some of it anyway. We they can't use all of it that the Master Gardeners produce, but.	00:48:48
	So what happens is on Thursdays?	00:48:52
	When Barb does the mail run, she picks up.	00:48:55
	Whatever the Master Gardeners have.	00:48:57
	And contacts Mary Ogan off up there the manager of the CBRF and they.	00:48:59
	Work on whatever she can use for.	00:49:05
	Fresh vegetables for the week.	00:49:07
	And Barb takes that up there, delivers it, and then the rest goes out in the cart that's out by the street for for.	00:49:09
	The public to use, but she's very happy with the vegetables that they get up there. I think it's a good thing for you know a	00:49:16
	volunteer group and then working with the.	00:49:21
	The two different county entities to all work together to do something positive for the residents in the CBRF up there.	00:49:26
	Good, Very good.	00:49:33
	We got a lot of indoors out as well as outdoor projects that we want to complete this year. I know it's.	00:49:37
	August time is kind of slipping away on us, but we're going to try to get as many of these things done.	00:49:42
	Outdoors and things like that as we can before the end of the year, but we do have other indoor projects that we want to get to	00:49:48
	also.	00:49:51
	Some of the indoor ones that we did do took a little bit longer than expected and doing the three courtrooms with the lighting,	00:49:55
	that took a while.	00:49:58
	But we're just.	00:50:04
	Moving on with.	00:50:05
	Trying to do as much stuff in house as we can.	00:50:06
	It's just a better way of doing things.	00:50:10
	Find out about it.	00:50:12
	So branch for you have the lighting done? Lighting is done. We did not replace the ceiling tiles in the gallery yet. They were not	00:50:14
	quite as dirty as some of the other ones. We have them purchased but we just didn't put them in yet because we had some other.	00:50:20
	Priorities, but.	00:50:26
	All the courtrooms look great.	00:50:27
	Just this week they went back to Branch 3. That was the first one that we did.	00:50:29
	We did take a few fixtures.	00:50:34
	Back out so it now matches the other courtrooms.	00:50:36
	It's not quite as bright, It has a little bit better look to it.	00:50:39
	And some of the ones that we took out we will actually use down in branch 5 when we get to that one.	00:50:43
	And then I just need to apply for the Focus on Energy rebates for all the fixtures that we did buy. I got to fill out that	00:50:51
	paperwork yet and get that sent in.	00:50:54
	But I'm really happy with the way our courtrooms look.	00:50:58
	Good work.	00:51:02
	Our restroom cleaning on the Wild Goose Trail, that's going very well.	00:51:03
	The Parks Department has told us they've had several compliments, that people have contacted them, how clean the restrooms are and	00:51:09
	how they look. And I think that's just a.	00:51:12
	A great thing for Dodge County for not only for us, but for our Parks Department also that people.	00:51:17
	Like the clean restrooms when they're using the trail.	00:51:22
	It's just a good thing.	00:51:25
	The porta potties were pretty nasty.	00:51:26
	Yeah, I bet you.	00:51:29
	So yes, people are happy with the new restrooms that we have there. So that was a good investment, ARPA funds to use on our	00:51:35
	journals. It's just a good look for the county that.	00:51:39
	Got people from out of county using our bike trails and stuff that that.	00:51:44
	Yeah, good.	00:51:47
	Just a couple of thank you notes to share with the committee.	00:51:50
	I did get.	00:51:54
	Tanya had a need. She had like a countertop area.	00:51:55
	And she's had money in a budget for a part-time person for a while, and she wants to get that person in there, so.	00:52:00
	Our guys kind of redid that space for, she says. The physical facilities did a great job with the desk space. It looks amazing and	00:52:06
	exactly what we were looking for.	00:52:11
	All we had to work with was some leftover odds and ends, pieces of desk material, but our guys were able to put that all together	00:52:16
	and kind of build the desk in this space that she wanted and.	00:52:21
	She's happy with what she got.	00:52:26
	Also got something from Scott Smith.	00:52:31
	On the jail inspector that was recently there, kudos for keeping their facility clean and not covered in graffiti, he says. We	00:52:35
	kind of take it for granted, but.	00:52:40
	It's not what the inspector is used to seeing when he goes to other jails because most deals are covered in.	00:52:45
	Graffiti and the the housing areas and railings and things like that and.	00:52:50
	Ours does not look like other jails that he goes to.	00:52:54
	So good. Good.	00:52:58
	Good job. Last night I got is from Judge Fitzger.	00:53:00
	It says just a note to thank all of your team for a fantastic job with the lights in the painting. We always crab when things are	00:53:04
	not right and I figured I would let you know when things go great.	00:53:08
	The courtroom looks insanely wonderful. Your team did a fantastic job. I could not be prouder of the way the court looks.	00:53:13
	We are blessed to have such hard working people who actually care about the work that they do and this job shows it. Thank you to	00:53:20
	you and your team. Brian Fitzger.	00:53:23
	Very good, very good. That makes you feel good.	00:53:28
	Yeah.	00:53:31
	What did you say? Amazingly fantastic.	00:53:33
	Insanely wonderful. Insanely wonderful.	00:53:36
	That sounds like Brian Fitzgerald.	00:53:40
	So yes, there.	00:53:45
	Very pleased with this courtroom. We did it while he was on vacation. He came back in.	00:53:48
	He said. Looks great. He's very happy with it.	00:53:52
	Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you to you guys for doing a good job.	00:53:56
	I mean, we appreciate that too and we appreciate very much you.	00:54:01
	Doing a lot of things in house to save the county.	00:54:06
	Money.	00:54:09
	When you can do it so.	00:54:10
	Thank you.	00:54:12
	You just have a little more control over things when you do it yourself.	00:54:13
	Yeah, again, it does take away from our routine maintenance. I'm not going to say that it doesn't, but we.	00:54:17
	Still try to fit all that in as best we can.	00:54:23
	Good.	00:54:26
	OK, that is all I have on building repairs and operations.	00:54:29
	Thanks, John.	00:54:34
	Future agenda items, we'll just leave it up to John again, he he knows what's going on in his department. So if you guys got any	00:54:36
	you want to add to it just.	00:54:41
	Let them know.	00:54:45
	And then we'll put them on for next month's meeting.	00:54:46
	Yes.	00:54:50
	Quick quick show A video of the boiler inspector was at Henry Dodge.	00:54:51
	Did take a video inside each of the steam boilers.	00:54:55
	I don't know if we want to see this. You probably don't.	00:54:58
	Probably not.	00:55:01
	I gotta I gotta point something out on the screen anyway here, but I'll get it, OK?	00:55:04
	Yes, I almost forgot about the.	00:55:09
	Hey, yeah, you can leave them right off.	00:55:12
	If you.	00:55:16
	I'm trying to get this. I think there's a laser up here too. John, let me show you.	00:55:20
	OK, that's what I want.	00:55:24
	Yeah.	00:55:26
	All right, I'll use the.	00:55:27
	I feel like we made it as a county because we got a laser pointer.	00:55:29
	Batteries.	00:55:35
	There we go, Just have to turn it on. I get someone smart enough to use it. That's the.	00:55:37
	That's the catch.	00:55:48
	Today.	00:55:51
	But you can see that we're missing a whole lot of the refractory now.	00:55:56
	# around here.	00:56:00
	That's all supposed to be mudded in. It's not supposed to look like that. You can see a big crack right there.	00:56:06
	Another crack right there.	00:56:15
	They're not in great shape on the big There's another crack right there.	00:56:17
	So yes, that is boiler #1.	00:56:25
	That all needs to get mudded in and fixed before they get closed up for the winter and turned back on.	00:56:29
	Do they Weld them cracks up to or no just they leave them go like that?	00:56:36
	Yes.	00:56:41
	OK.	00:56:42
	So and then this will be number boiler 3. We have boiler 1 and boiler 3 up there.	00:56:44
	You can see that one's got some cracks there.	00:56:52
	These chunks.	00:56:56
	And you can see that.	00:56:58
	Once he gets up to the top, you can just see how much of that is all missing that that's all got to get mudded back in.	00:57:00
	Before that can be used for the winter.	00:57:06
	You see that the the burners are not in in great shape in these.	00:57:11
	Boilers here.	00:57:15
	So are these used all the time?	00:57:26
	Yes.	00:57:28
	Both of them.	00:57:30
	We only need one at a time.	00:57:31
	But yes, they are both ready to go all winter long.	00:57:36
	But we only need one to operate.	00:57:39
	What about that that newer one that you guys put in that handles it to or not?	00:57:43
	The newer ones are only for hot water for the CBRF.	00:57:48
	OK so these would be your steam boilers that goes to feed your penthouse.	00:57:51
	Air handlers and it is also.	00:57:56
	Feeding a steam converter.	00:58:00
	That would make hot water for other radiators and things like that in the building.	00:58:02
	And the other ones just heat the water in the building.	00:58:09
	Yes, the other ones are just before the CBRF.	00:58:13
	Residential area.	00:58:16
	OK, so.	00:58:18
	For heating.	00:58:19
	Yes, OK.	00:58:21
	Yes, correct.	00:58:22
	Those things not good.	00:58:25
	Till such time as we were able to.	00:58:27
	Do something with that building or we're gonna ask them. We're gonna give it a shot. Yeah, yeah.	00:58:29
	But that's I'm going to be confident that we can keep them going.	00:58:35
	OK, so.	00:58:39
	No guarantees, but that's my goal.	00:58:40
	There are things that the whole board should see the all 33 supervisors should see that.	00:58:43
	You know how bad it is and.	00:58:49
	You know how difficult to repair is that?	00:58:52
	They, the boiler company will get in there and they'll, they'll mud that all back in and, and do that the cracks we're just going	00:58:58
	to have to live with.	00:59:02
	But.	00:59:06
	The rest of it they will mud that all back in and and fix that.	00:59:07
	Sure it's OK.	00:59:11
	I don't know how long it's going to take them.	00:59:13
	OK. Is that every year they got to do that?	00:59:15
	Mudding on it? Or is this no?	00:59:18
	No.	00:59:20
	They did it a couple years ago I think I remember seeing that come through on an invoice.	00:59:24
	What, 2-3 years ago?	00:59:30
	Yeah.	00:59:32
	Every bit of that job.	00:59:34
	So it has been done before, but we will.	00:59:36
	Get that done before they.	00:59:39
	Closed up for the winners.	00:59:40
	Sure, some kind of high temp.	00:59:42
	Item special mortar that would understand that eat you.	00:59:44
	Yes.	00:59:49
	All right.	00:59:52
	Then we need to determine our.	00:59:54
	I've got one more. Oh yeah, it would be interesting in the shape these things are in.	00:59:57
	Just to get a price on what a?	01:00:01
	If you had to replace one of them boilers, what would be looking at?	01:00:04
	We could do that.	01:00:08
	You know it's a good idea.	01:00:09
	It's a good idea, yeah.	01:00:12
	He was there on their last legs, obviously.	01:00:14
	Are you thinking direct direct replacement or replacing with what we would actually need?	01:00:18
	Feed the spaces that we need to eat.	01:00:24
	I would think that what you need to hate. That's right, That you need, yeah.	01:00:26
	I don't know. I guess maybe should. I don't know we necessarily know.	01:00:30
	I don't know what details the boiler itself would cost, but.	01:00:34
	I do know that last winter we had several.	01:00:38
	Steam pipes that also rotted out that were connected to that that we had to.	01:00:42
	Repair also to repair.	01:00:46
	As any of this.	01:00:50
	Any of this?	01:00:51
	Could it be attributed to the same concerns we had before with chlorine and other things?	01:00:53
	I wouldn't say so, no, nothing like that.	01:00:58
	Probably more.	01:01:01
	Because it's so oversized.	01:01:03
	Yes, that is what the boiler inspector is telling us, that a lot of it has to do with how detuned the boilers were because they	01:01:05
	were made to run at a lot higher steam pressure.	01:01:09
	And also to run full tilt and we're running them at.	01:01:14
	18 to 20 lbs and they were made to run a lot higher than that and our load is not that great down there.	01:01:18
	That they cycle on and off all the time.	01:01:24
	Which is also hard on them.	01:01:27
	Yes.	01:01:28
	And they're very inefficient too.	01:01:30
	Very inefficient.	01:01:33
	So we will do what we can to keep them going.	01:01:35
	OK. Anybody else got anything?	01:01:41
	All right, then we need to determine our next meeting date and time.	01:01:45
	Tumblr force, I believe.	01:01:49
	The 4th.	01:01:51
	OK, September 4th.	01:01:52
	Everybody can make that.	01:01:55
	At 4:00.	01:01:59
	Steve, did Ed Summers say something that he wanted to have our next meeting at Clearview to show us the progress has talked to me	01:02:01
	about that and.	01:02:04
	You guys want to decide that now or do you want to wait a little bit just to see how things are progressing and how much there is	01:02:10
	to see that's new?	01:02:14
	Because I thought that would be here tonight to talk about that.	01:02:18
	I know Ed has talked to me about that, that he would like you guys to have a meeting up there so you could actually see what's	01:02:22
	going on. And I just don't know at this point how much is going to be done. Or I think everybody just keep track of, watch their	01:02:28
	agendas and if you know, and I can send an e-mail out to you guys, they've made a lot of progress. There's a lot going on.	01:02:34
	I can send you guys an e-mail and let you know.	01:02:41
	That we would have that we would have it up in the gathering room up there.	01:02:45
	And we would have our meeting and then we would go on a tour and take a look at the project and see how it's progressing.	01:02:48
	All right. Otherwise, September 4th at 4:00 here.	01:02:54
	Yeah, yeah. So location to be determined. Yep.	01:02:58
	Here OK.	01:03:06
	I'm sorry I missed this. You are welcome.	01:03:12
	There's cringe at sticking money. Yeah, I'm good with that. Sure. Thank you.	01:03:14
	Guys ready for a tour? Yes, we are. Yep.	01:03:21
	Rate is going to be more than.	01:03:28
	Yeah, that just sucks. Yeah.	01:03:29
	What's happening? Maybe not, I don't know. Maybe there's good space heaters up there for them. I said, I said I I just cringe it	01:03:32
	seen sticking money at Henry Dodge.	01:03:37