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Supervisor attendance has been taken. 00:00:00
Is there any public comment out there? 00:00:03
Hi, Ross. 00:00:06
OK then we all had a copy of the minutes in our packet. Do I have? 00:00:10
Motion to accept them moved. 00:00:15
2nd. 00:00:17
Made by Jeff. 00:00:19
Seconded by Randy. 00:00:20
Any discussion on them or corrections? 00:00:21
If not all in favor say aye aye opposed. 00:00:25
All right, they're carried. 00:00:29
All right. We have Ed Summers here from Clearview. He's going to give us an update on the project going on over there. 00:00:30
Hello. 00:00:38
Things are moving forward. Regulatory end is a big headache, but we're taking care of that. 00:00:41
Part you're probably more interested in is the construction. 00:00:45
So Catalyst. 00:00:49
I believe they they public it was been published first, right? But then they published, yeah. 00:00:52
And. 00:00:59
So the due date for the bids is March 26, that's when we'll do the opening. 00:01:00
They did build some time into the schedule should contractor questions require an extension of the due date. 00:01:04
But we are planning to have a joint meeting of the Human Services and Building Committee the week of April 7th to recommend bids. 00:01:11
So if you want to take a look at your calendar, is there a? 00:01:18
Better day that week that works for you. 00:01:20
The week of April 7th. 00:01:24
Where are you opening bids at, Ed? 00:01:27
I guess it's. 00:01:31
Where we usually do in that conference room over there, but I'm guessing there may be quite a few people. So I'll see if maybe 00:01:32
this room is available, maybe this room, this room at a certain time or. 00:01:38
As far as I, they were all. 00:01:46
Catalyst has it in their hands right now, OK? 00:01:48
I believe that did opening time was set for 11:00. I don't think they will change that, but do you want to just send a note out to 00:01:52
the building committee members that? 00:01:57
On the date and the time on when you're doing the bid opening. 00:02:02
And then maybe the date and the time of the Human Services meeting that they want to have on the 7th. 00:02:05
Well, the week of the 7th. Is there a day that week that doesn't work? The week of the 7th? 00:02:10
April 7th. 00:02:14
The 26th. 00:02:18
For an extent, you know if there's a lot of contractor questions, so it can be extended. 00:02:22
Another week. 00:02:26
Milwaukee. 00:02:29
And I'm think they have an office on Michigan. 00:02:30
Well I got surgery on the 9th so anything after 9 thumbs on I got the 7th. I got executive meeting on the 7th but. 00:02:36
That's a nine, 8:30 in the morning. So if we did it later. 00:02:45
OK, so. 00:02:49
Which day is bad? 00:02:51
I'm having surgery on a nine so any the 7th or the 8th? 00:02:53
Yes, I have library board meeting at 4:00 in the afternoon, but. 00:02:59
7's good work for me I guess. 00:03:04
You too. So maybe, you know, I just really just have to see what the Human Services are exactly right. 00:03:07
I just have an exact meeting that morning but. 00:03:14
OK. 00:03:17
And we'll talk about that next Wednesday and then look over the day. Sounds good. 00:03:22
All right, yeah. And then after that, it'll go to the April 15th county board for approval. And then all things going well, we'll 00:03:26
be breaking ground in June. 00:03:30
So, and then on the 20th we had a meeting with Catalyst. John came out and we were just discussing logistics, you know for 00:03:34
contractor parking, where the dumpsters are going to go or how supply delivers are going to come into the building and. 00:03:41
Things like that. But. 00:03:47
So moving along so. 00:03:49
How many companies, how many construction companies took out big bid packets? 00:03:51
Nothing yet. None yet. 00:03:55
Because it just got posted today, Scott. I see. OK. 00:03:57
Have not been posted yet. I'm still waiting on the final document. 00:04:01
Oh, OK. 00:04:04
OK, today was the plan posting they gave me the impression it was going to be. I forgot how much interest there was. 00:04:05
The expected completion date, you know, they said 12 months, so. 00:04:16
You know, contractors, did they have a ballpark figure on what it was going to cost? 00:04:22
I think we have 6.6 budgeted, 6.6 million, yeah. 00:04:26
OK. 00:04:32
OK. 00:04:42
Anybody good? And I learned more about the water problems and copper pipes in Juneau from John that day that we had the logistics 00:04:47
meeting. You guys got problems up there too, huh? 00:04:51
Everywhere. Yeah, we're just talking about all the. 00:04:56
You know, we've all the copper we've had to replace up it. Yeah, Clearview from the water anymore on. 00:04:59
Chlorine level. I have met with the mayor and I'm trying to get a meeting between myself and Cameron and the. 00:05:05
Head of the water utility. But yes, it has been discussed with the mayor. He has seen pictures of it and we have talked about it. 00:05:12
This has been a problem in Juneau for many years. You would think sooner or later they just bite the bullet and fix this. Really. 00:05:19
They've always had a chlorine that high. 00:05:26
Russ can attest to that. 00:05:28
I can tell you from past experience working for me, yes it's been. 00:05:30
Tremendously high end. 00:05:34
And I live in Juneau, Yeah, and I tell you when I take a shower every morning. 00:05:35
If I just like, I'm getting out of a. 00:05:40
Swimming pool. 00:05:42
Really. I wash the dishes. 00:05:43
It's like Washington swimming pool. Is that safe drinking water? When it's that high, it meets the standards, Yes, Really. 00:05:46
We don't drink it at our house. We have filter systems, Yeah. 00:05:55
I got filters on my shower heads. 00:05:59
Yes, the parts per million does meet the standards. Not that. 00:06:01
You want to drink it, but it is safe to drink at that level, yes. 00:06:04
Most communities try to hold it to a minimum because they get so many complaints from it. 00:06:09
You know. 00:06:13
But he must not do that here. 00:06:14
You know it depends upon when they take that sample. 00:06:22
When it meets those requirements also, John. 00:06:25
Yeah, and a lot has to do. How close you. 00:06:29
How close you are there? Well, and how close you are to a water tower because? 00:06:32
That's where it gets chlorinated, so. 00:06:36
Farther out yard unless it is, but the closer you are the higher it is. So I don't know where their wells are in relation to. 00:06:39
Our county buildings, but. 00:06:45
We maybe got one close by, I don't know. 00:06:48
Anyhow, OK. 00:06:51
Any other questions? 00:06:54
How's it going with the? 00:06:56
This might be also the buildings topic. 00:06:58
Nursing situation there. 00:07:01
Well, we're stable right at the moment, but it's not getting better. 00:07:03
No, the ones that the ones that were doing the Filipinos that they follow the the. 00:07:09
Immigration that's not on the hot seat right now. This is just regular immigration. It's just a processor at step 10 of 14, so. 00:07:14
Hopefully in the next year, so. 00:07:22
We have like what, 36 applicants or? 00:07:27
For the Filipinos. 00:07:31
96 OK. 00:07:33
So how many positions are you looking to fill? 00:07:36
We did that. We'd be able to open up every bed in the building then. 00:07:38
I mean, that's the only thing that hampers our ability to admit is staffing. So. 00:07:41
You know what the construction going on, are you still going to have available beds in that building yet? Are they using their 00:07:48
beds that we've had to close? Huh. 00:07:51
These beds, these beds have been closed right as of staffing, but you're not over the behavioral unit over that far. We'll be 00:07:55
adjusting where some of the residents live, but it won't affect. 00:08:01
The same amount of beds will still be there, correct? OK. I thought I thought different on that. Thank you. 00:08:09
Anything else for add on the construction part of the Clearview at all? 00:08:14
Thanks for coming, Ed. 00:08:20
All right then the next thing we got on, there's a Dodge Colony Master Plan update. 00:08:23
You guys are all well aware that it got shot down at the last county. 00:08:29
County board meeting. 00:08:34
So we need somebody that voted no at that meeting to bring it back to the meeting on the 26th. 00:08:36
Of this month so we can keep going on it. 00:08:43
Umm, I don't know if that happened or not. 00:08:47
It would be nice if it did. Apparently there was nine people missing. We only had one person there from our building committee. 00:08:49
I guess everybody because of the change in date. 00:08:57
From going to Tuesday or Wednesday they either had something booked on a Wednesday or they were sick like myself. 00:09:00
So we couldn't make the meeting. 00:09:07
But I'd sure like to have it back on the March 1 so we can keep going with it because. 00:09:09
You all know that. 00:09:14
The longer we wait with that Henry Dodge building, the more problems we're going to have. So someone who was an absent and 00:09:16
considered no, are they able to bring it back or is it someone that had a vote? 00:09:21
That's a good question. I thought it was somebody that actually voted no. That's why I say too, but I just. 00:09:27
The rules I I would have a question make sure. 00:09:32
Well, if Evan has a meeting tonight yet and he voted no. 00:09:36
I don't know if you'd be able to talk to him to have him, because he'd have to get it back on the agenda. 00:09:39
Correct. 00:09:44
Yes. 00:09:46
I will check into that OK. 00:09:47
He's got a meeting at 4:30 tonight, yeah. 00:09:50
So yes, the goal is to get it back on there because. 00:09:54
Like I said, we had a lot of people absent and and. 00:09:58
I don't think everybody that was there understood exactly what we were trying to do. 00:10:01
Right. 00:10:07
So you guys all get John's e-mail? 00:10:08
That he sent out to all the supervisors as far as explaining and very good job John for explaining that. Thank you. The same 00:10:11
thing. Get a really good job explaining it to the supervisor. 00:10:16
I thought it was going to be more open and shut that it would just go right through. If I would have known that I would have got a 00:10:21
hold you and we would have got that on paper and then I could have brought it up but. 00:10:26
But as they had questions, I thought Cameron did a good job of explaining everything and I thought. 00:10:30
Could go through but nothing's for sure with that. But you know, it's like. 00:10:36
But we will try again, right? Right. So we're a month late, that's all. But. 00:10:42
OK. 00:10:47
Facility director reports building repairs and improvements. OK, so the carpeting and branch one has been completed. It looks very 00:10:49
nice. 00:10:54
We did. We do use the exact same squares that we put in the. 00:11:00
Probate office last year, so we don't have to stock different colors that we can just have one. 00:11:05
Spare stock of spare squares that we can just put in there. 00:11:11
And we would like to keep that standardized as we do more carpet in the courthouse that we keep with that exact same. 00:11:15
Color pattern that we don't have to stock a whole bunch of. 00:11:21
Different patterns that we don't have room to keep so. 00:11:25
Along with that the the courtrooms have a lot of decorative bulkheads that have wallpaper on them. 00:11:28
Judge Pitzinger was not in love with it for the last several years and so we also took that off at this time and. 00:11:35
We bought a little portable steamer at Menards. We just steamed it, took it all off and then. 00:11:42
My guys repainted all those, so that looks much better. We're going to do that in all the courtrooms this year too. 00:11:46
As we convert. 00:11:54
With the LED lighting and stuff, and we do work in the courtrooms, we'll take all that wallpaper off, repaint those bulkheads and. 00:11:55
Just get rid of it, it looks. 00:12:02
At the time it was OK, but it looks very dated right now so. 00:12:04
We'll just get rid of that wallpaper. 00:12:08
John, are you going to be able to do all the courtrooms this year or not? 00:12:11
With the new lighting in that or. 00:12:14
In the painting or? 00:12:16
I'm hoping to have enough time to do that. OK, that's my goal. That's your goal. 00:12:18
Yes, the goal is to have enough time to do it and I think if we go with a game plan, if we plan ahead. 00:12:22
With our lighting switches, which each courtroom has six different switches that control all the lights around six different 00:12:29
circuits. 00:12:33
And if we do all that ahead of time, we plan that all out and we plan our new layout. 00:12:37
Out how we're going to arrange them and stuff like that. I think we can, we can do that, OK. 00:12:42
It's just a matter of my guys having time at the same time that a judge is taking vacation. 00:12:47
OK. 00:12:54
That the goal is to do the other 4 courtrooms, yes. OK. 00:12:55
The new water softeners were installed this week at Henry Dodge A. 00:13:02
Much much smaller brine tank than the old ones and these are actually going to work decent. Those were not working well anymore. 00:13:06
So that's a good thing that we. 00:13:14
Replace those also. 00:13:17
Last week we had two more steam leaks in the boiler room at Henry Dodge. We actually had to shut the boilers off and repair those. 00:13:19
We were able to do those ourselves, which was good. 00:13:24
But it's just more pipes that are rotting out in that boiler room that you know, you're just living on borrowed time with 00:13:29
everything in that heating system up there, so. 00:13:33
We were able to get those done. 00:13:39
Surefire is looking to install the new rooftop chiller in the jail that it has been at Horicon. It's been sitting in their lot for 00:13:42
a while, all wrapped up in plastic. 00:13:46
They're looking at the end of March or the first week in April to put that up on the roof at the jail so they'll be ready to go 00:13:52
for cooling season this year. 00:13:55
And then they also do have our fifty ton unit for the Sheriff's Office sitting there and they plan on doing that sometime in the 00:13:59
next couple of weeks, putting that one in also. 00:14:03
Good. So they're ready to go with all their projects. 00:14:09
We should have just about all new chillers then, right? 00:14:13
I will just have one old one on the courthouse roof and that is in the 2026 capital improvement plan, OK. 00:14:16
So. 00:14:23
Other than that, on the budget update from last year, there's probably going to be close to 200,000 that's going to go back into 00:14:30
the general fund along with that 140,000 from the insurance settlement. 00:14:35
Parts of that I would have liked to carry over, but it's for a different purpose and what fund it was in, so you can't do that. 00:14:44
So we may need to ask for some contingency funds later in the year just because of some other stuff that came up that we couldn't. 00:14:52
Get done before the end of the year that we had to do in the beginning of 25 so. 00:15:00
Other than that, 20 fives. 00:15:05
We're on schedule. We're looking good with our budget numbers so far. 00:15:07
For our operations, we're right in the middle of our annual pod cleaning right now. That's where we go through the jail. 00:15:13
Section by section, we pull out every. 00:15:19
Smoke detector head. We clean all those heads, we clean all the cells, we clean out all the return vents and all the cells. We 00:15:22
clean the light fixtures, the whole thing from top to bottom. 00:15:28
In the jail and that takes us about six weeks. 00:15:34
To do that. 00:15:37
So we really don't do much other maintenance for six weeks. So things get a little backlog there, but. 00:15:39
We do have a lot of things on our list to get to once pod cleaning is done. We got a lot of projects scheduled in different 00:15:45
buildings to work on SO. 00:15:49
As soon as we get done with that at the end of March, we're looking to get back on track with all those other projects. 00:15:53
Where do you go with the inmates when you do pod cleaning? 00:15:58
We generally vacate 6 to 8 cells at a time and they send them to the indoor rec area in that pod. 00:16:02
We do those cells and then they'll put those back in there and then we'll vacate another six or eight cells and they'll send those 00:16:08
to the gym for a while when we when we do that stuff. 00:16:12
And how long does it take you? 00:16:18
John. 00:16:19
Individual cells there is a little over 200. 00:16:22
And then you have all the open dorm style areas like in the in the. 00:16:28
Huber section there, that's all dorm style. 00:16:33
Those they'll send all 24 people like to the classroom in that pot or something, you know, and they'll give us. 00:16:36
X number hours in there and then we'll let them people come back in and eat lunch and then we'll get them back to the classroom 00:16:43
again. We'll finish up in the afternoon. 00:16:46
Each one of those sections takes about a whole day to do. 00:16:51
By the time you go through all that stuff. 00:16:54
I didn't mean to step on you there, Mr. Chairman. I just. I didn't know. Oh, no, you're fine. 00:16:57
It's interesting. I like to hear all that information too. 00:17:01
C pod has 56, D pod has 57, and an A&B have right around 50 so. 00:17:05
But we also do, I mean like all the booking cells and intake, we do all those. 00:17:11
Besides. 00:17:17
So. 00:17:18
That's why it takes us about six weeks. 00:17:20
To do that. 00:17:22
And they need to be redone every year, huh? 00:17:23
And inmates that hard on it or. 00:17:26
You want to go into the cell you only. 00:17:29
The smoke detectors are in the return ducts in the cells, and after a year's time you get a lot of lint and everything going 00:17:33
through there, so you'll end up with a big ball of fuzz around a smoke detector. So it's not really doing much in a year's time. 00:17:39
So we shut the system down, take those out, clean them all out, take them apart, do that. 00:17:46
Put them all back together. 00:17:52
We do remove all the graffiti that's in the cells, whether it be on a wall or a vent or on their writing table or whatever. Some 00:17:54
cells are very clean, some are just totally trashed. 00:17:59
And so we go in and we remove all that stuff so it looks like it should. 00:18:04
Because basically, if it looks trashy. 00:18:11
It keeps getting trashy because. 00:18:14
It looks like it's something that's just allowed to do that you just. 00:18:16
Right on the walls, draw on the walls and do all that kind of stuff. Whereas if you. 00:18:19
Keep it looking. 00:18:23
Decent. You have less of that than. 00:18:25
If you just let it go. 00:18:28
So we try to remove as much of that every year as we can. 00:18:33
Very good. 00:18:37
We just recently moved a couple of offices in the Sheriff's Department for the detectives and we moved a few people around there 00:18:41
and we moved some cubicles up and register deeds. Just got that done a couple weeks ago. 00:18:47
And the only other thing we had on is yesterday, I just locked in our gas pricing for the next three years. 00:18:55
Umm, I got a e-mail from our constellation. 00:19:04
Rep yesterday or actually? 00:19:07
Tuesday afternoon. 00:19:10
And he said. 00:19:12
We should lock in now. That's his recommendation. So we did that yesterday. We locked in for three years. 00:19:13
What did he base his recommendation on to? 00:19:22
Lock in for three years right now. 00:19:25
Given drill, baby drill, they they think it's not going to. 00:19:27
Affect them. It's much cheaper. Well, the purpose of locking it avoids your high in your low swings. It's not that you want it's 00:19:32
obviously you want a bargain, but you're not looking to. 00:19:37
Get a bargain. You're looking for stability in your pricing for the next three years. 00:19:42
But also the fact that. 00:19:47
With a couple more of these LNG export terminals scheduled to come online, that's going to take more. 00:19:51
Natural gas to liquefy and send to Europe. So there's going to be demand for that. 00:19:59
Demand for electrical generation has also gone up using natural gas. 00:20:04
And as more of these data centers come online nationwide, so you're going to see an increase in the electricity demand also. 00:20:09
And they don't see much potential in. 00:20:16
Increase use of coal. Coal is still going to go down in usage. 00:20:20
As utilities phase this out because it's cheaper than for an empty generate using natural gas. 00:20:24
So the demand for natural gas is going to go up. 00:20:29
Just based on electricity generation also. 00:20:32
So they did not see much downside in a pricing coming up in the near term, so they recommended locking in. 00:20:36
Was there much of A price difference from the last time you were locked in? 00:20:44
About $0.60 a deck of therm, but the cost of transport went down about $0.10 a deca therm, so it was about $0.50 higher than it 00:20:49
was. 00:20:53
September something I think the last time I looked. 00:20:59
But. 00:21:02
They thought the the time to lock in now was now. 00:21:04
What is a deca therm? What is that considered toward like versus a pound or? 00:21:08
Is it dearly No, like the conversion? 00:21:13
Therm is a measurement of the amount of gas, Yeah. So there really doesn't go in their own weight or volume or something. Volume. 00:21:22
And it is a temperature compensated unit. 00:21:31
Yes, it's compensated. When you get your utility bill, it's compensated every day. There's an adjustment every day for the amount 00:21:35
of. 00:21:38
Therms that you used every day on your list, that's. 00:21:43
Listed out yesterday. 00:21:45
Because when it's condensed it's liquid, and when it's. 00:21:46
Run to your building yes, it goes to turns into a liquid and that's how they export that on ships to Europe and then they. 00:21:49
Heat it back up and turn it back into a gas once again. 00:21:56
I want to throw a question out here on. 00:22:03
Maybe off face in that. 00:22:06
I just read the other day that with these tariffs going in on Canada and Mexico. 00:22:08
Canada, Canada says, well, if he's going to enforce these tariffs, they're going to shut off one and a half million people. 00:22:14
In the United States, from power that they supply power to, are we part of that million and a half that they supply power to? 00:22:20
No, we're not. 00:22:27
That got suspended, huh? That got suspended anyway, right? But I mean, they, they supply 1,000,000 1/2 people with electricity. 00:22:28
Canada power goes to Minnesota and New York and a couple other states out on the East Coast. OK, Wisconsin ain't part of that. 00:22:36
All right, that's what I wanted to know. 00:22:43
It's kind of scary. 00:22:47
I mean, they play these games and OK, I'm gonna shut power off the million and a half people. What are these million and a half 00:22:49
people gonna do, you know? 00:22:52
It's nothing to play with, but where it is that they can move stuff around on the grid, change things around to supply that 00:22:56
accommodate them off. But yeah, OK, Minnesota, it's all right. 00:23:02
So that's where we just locked in. So we're locked in through. 00:23:12
October of 28. 00:23:17
Good, good. 00:23:20
And that's all I got for you. Thank you. 00:23:22
But does anybody have any future agenda items they want the price to go up on gas store. Was it comparable or it had gone up since 00:23:24
the end of September? Beginning of October it had gone up some. 00:23:29
But not crazy, yeah. 00:23:35
And part of that was just the amount of that got used this winter because this winter was colder than. 00:23:37
Last winter. 00:23:43
So right now there's a lot less in storage than what there was last year at this time and it's also below the five year average. 00:23:44
What's in storage? 00:23:48
So again, they they looked at all those factors and that's why he sent the e-mail out recommending that we we lock him. 00:23:54
OK, go ahead. If the prices of a natural debt gas do go down a lot, is there some kind of escape clause or are we locked in just 00:23:59
we are locked in? 00:24:04
The other thing is how I'll just tell you guys how this works is. 00:24:11
When we lock this in, you buy X number of decathlons per month. 00:24:15
And if you're under. 00:24:22
They get sold back at a reduced rate. 00:24:24
And if you use over, you purchase at a much higher market rate. So you want to try to. 00:24:27
Peg your usage every month. 00:24:35
For each building of what it's going to be so you don't sell back at a cheaper rate or buy. 00:24:37
Additional at a higher rate. 00:24:43
So our three buildings that are on transport gas are this building, the Henry Dodge and the Justice facility. 00:24:46
The Sheriff's Department, we just pay on JPOD, we just pay the market rate, whatever, because they're not big enough to be on 00:24:52
transport gas. You have to have a certain volume to be on there. 00:24:56
Anything else? 00:25:04
Has got any future agenda items you want on for next month? 00:25:09
We'll just leave it up to John then. 00:25:15
Keep us up to date on everything that's going on. 00:25:18
Next meeting date and time. 00:25:22
Would be April 3rd. 00:25:24
At 4:00, does that work for everybody? 00:25:26
1st Thursday the month, yeah. 00:25:31
OK, that's what it'll be. 00:25:33
OK, then I'll call the meeting. 00:25:36
Declared a meeting adjourned at 4:31. 00:25:39
Thank you very much for coming. 00:25:42
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Event transcript
Supervisor attendance has been taken. 00:00:00
Is there any public comment out there? 00:00:03
Hi, Ross. 00:00:06
OK then we all had a copy of the minutes in our packet. Do I have? 00:00:10
Motion to accept them moved. 00:00:15
2nd. 00:00:17
Made by Jeff. 00:00:19
Seconded by Randy. 00:00:20
Any discussion on them or corrections? 00:00:21
If not all in favor say aye aye opposed. 00:00:25
All right, they're carried. 00:00:29
All right. We have Ed Summers here from Clearview. He's going to give us an update on the project going on over there. 00:00:30
Hello. 00:00:38
Things are moving forward. Regulatory end is a big headache, but we're taking care of that. 00:00:41
Part you're probably more interested in is the construction. 00:00:45
So Catalyst. 00:00:49
I believe they they public it was been published first, right? But then they published, yeah. 00:00:52
And. 00:00:59
So the due date for the bids is March 26, that's when we'll do the opening. 00:01:00
They did build some time into the schedule should contractor questions require an extension of the due date. 00:01:04
But we are planning to have a joint meeting of the Human Services and Building Committee the week of April 7th to recommend bids. 00:01:11
So if you want to take a look at your calendar, is there a? 00:01:18
Better day that week that works for you. 00:01:20
The week of April 7th. 00:01:24
Where are you opening bids at, Ed? 00:01:27
I guess it's. 00:01:31
Where we usually do in that conference room over there, but I'm guessing there may be quite a few people. So I'll see if maybe 00:01:32
this room is available, maybe this room, this room at a certain time or. 00:01:38
As far as I, they were all. 00:01:46
Catalyst has it in their hands right now, OK? 00:01:48
I believe that did opening time was set for 11:00. I don't think they will change that, but do you want to just send a note out to 00:01:52
the building committee members that? 00:01:57
On the date and the time on when you're doing the bid opening. 00:02:02
And then maybe the date and the time of the Human Services meeting that they want to have on the 7th. 00:02:05
Well, the week of the 7th. Is there a day that week that doesn't work? The week of the 7th? 00:02:10
April 7th. 00:02:14
The 26th. 00:02:18
For an extent, you know if there's a lot of contractor questions, so it can be extended. 00:02:22
Another week. 00:02:26
Milwaukee. 00:02:29
And I'm think they have an office on Michigan. 00:02:30
Well I got surgery on the 9th so anything after 9 thumbs on I got the 7th. I got executive meeting on the 7th but. 00:02:36
That's a nine, 8:30 in the morning. So if we did it later. 00:02:45
OK, so. 00:02:49
Which day is bad? 00:02:51
I'm having surgery on a nine so any the 7th or the 8th? 00:02:53
Yes, I have library board meeting at 4:00 in the afternoon, but. 00:02:59
7's good work for me I guess. 00:03:04
You too. So maybe, you know, I just really just have to see what the Human Services are exactly right. 00:03:07
I just have an exact meeting that morning but. 00:03:14
OK. 00:03:17
And we'll talk about that next Wednesday and then look over the day. Sounds good. 00:03:22
All right, yeah. And then after that, it'll go to the April 15th county board for approval. And then all things going well, we'll 00:03:26
be breaking ground in June. 00:03:30
So, and then on the 20th we had a meeting with Catalyst. John came out and we were just discussing logistics, you know for 00:03:34
contractor parking, where the dumpsters are going to go or how supply delivers are going to come into the building and. 00:03:41
Things like that. But. 00:03:47
So moving along so. 00:03:49
How many companies, how many construction companies took out big bid packets? 00:03:51
Nothing yet. None yet. 00:03:55
Because it just got posted today, Scott. I see. OK. 00:03:57
Have not been posted yet. I'm still waiting on the final document. 00:04:01
Oh, OK. 00:04:04
OK, today was the plan posting they gave me the impression it was going to be. I forgot how much interest there was. 00:04:05
The expected completion date, you know, they said 12 months, so. 00:04:16
You know, contractors, did they have a ballpark figure on what it was going to cost? 00:04:22
I think we have 6.6 budgeted, 6.6 million, yeah. 00:04:26
OK. 00:04:32
OK. 00:04:42
Anybody good? And I learned more about the water problems and copper pipes in Juneau from John that day that we had the logistics 00:04:47
meeting. You guys got problems up there too, huh? 00:04:51
Everywhere. Yeah, we're just talking about all the. 00:04:56
You know, we've all the copper we've had to replace up it. Yeah, Clearview from the water anymore on. 00:04:59
Chlorine level. I have met with the mayor and I'm trying to get a meeting between myself and Cameron and the. 00:05:05
Head of the water utility. But yes, it has been discussed with the mayor. He has seen pictures of it and we have talked about it. 00:05:12
This has been a problem in Juneau for many years. You would think sooner or later they just bite the bullet and fix this. Really. 00:05:19
They've always had a chlorine that high. 00:05:26
Russ can attest to that. 00:05:28
I can tell you from past experience working for me, yes it's been. 00:05:30
Tremendously high end. 00:05:34
And I live in Juneau, Yeah, and I tell you when I take a shower every morning. 00:05:35
If I just like, I'm getting out of a. 00:05:40
Swimming pool. 00:05:42
Really. I wash the dishes. 00:05:43
It's like Washington swimming pool. Is that safe drinking water? When it's that high, it meets the standards, Yes, Really. 00:05:46
We don't drink it at our house. We have filter systems, Yeah. 00:05:55
I got filters on my shower heads. 00:05:59
Yes, the parts per million does meet the standards. Not that. 00:06:01
You want to drink it, but it is safe to drink at that level, yes. 00:06:04
Most communities try to hold it to a minimum because they get so many complaints from it. 00:06:09
You know. 00:06:13
But he must not do that here. 00:06:14
You know it depends upon when they take that sample. 00:06:22
When it meets those requirements also, John. 00:06:25
Yeah, and a lot has to do. How close you. 00:06:29
How close you are there? Well, and how close you are to a water tower because? 00:06:32
That's where it gets chlorinated, so. 00:06:36
Farther out yard unless it is, but the closer you are the higher it is. So I don't know where their wells are in relation to. 00:06:39
Our county buildings, but. 00:06:45
We maybe got one close by, I don't know. 00:06:48
Anyhow, OK. 00:06:51
Any other questions? 00:06:54
How's it going with the? 00:06:56
This might be also the buildings topic. 00:06:58
Nursing situation there. 00:07:01
Well, we're stable right at the moment, but it's not getting better. 00:07:03
No, the ones that the ones that were doing the Filipinos that they follow the the. 00:07:09
Immigration that's not on the hot seat right now. This is just regular immigration. It's just a processor at step 10 of 14, so. 00:07:14
Hopefully in the next year, so. 00:07:22
We have like what, 36 applicants or? 00:07:27
For the Filipinos. 00:07:31
96 OK. 00:07:33
So how many positions are you looking to fill? 00:07:36
We did that. We'd be able to open up every bed in the building then. 00:07:38
I mean, that's the only thing that hampers our ability to admit is staffing. So. 00:07:41
You know what the construction going on, are you still going to have available beds in that building yet? Are they using their 00:07:48
beds that we've had to close? Huh. 00:07:51
These beds, these beds have been closed right as of staffing, but you're not over the behavioral unit over that far. We'll be 00:07:55
adjusting where some of the residents live, but it won't affect. 00:08:01
The same amount of beds will still be there, correct? OK. I thought I thought different on that. Thank you. 00:08:09
Anything else for add on the construction part of the Clearview at all? 00:08:14
Thanks for coming, Ed. 00:08:20
All right then the next thing we got on, there's a Dodge Colony Master Plan update. 00:08:23
You guys are all well aware that it got shot down at the last county. 00:08:29
County board meeting. 00:08:34
So we need somebody that voted no at that meeting to bring it back to the meeting on the 26th. 00:08:36
Of this month so we can keep going on it. 00:08:43
Umm, I don't know if that happened or not. 00:08:47
It would be nice if it did. Apparently there was nine people missing. We only had one person there from our building committee. 00:08:49
I guess everybody because of the change in date. 00:08:57
From going to Tuesday or Wednesday they either had something booked on a Wednesday or they were sick like myself. 00:09:00
So we couldn't make the meeting. 00:09:07
But I'd sure like to have it back on the March 1 so we can keep going with it because. 00:09:09
You all know that. 00:09:14
The longer we wait with that Henry Dodge building, the more problems we're going to have. So someone who was an absent and 00:09:16
considered no, are they able to bring it back or is it someone that had a vote? 00:09:21
That's a good question. I thought it was somebody that actually voted no. That's why I say too, but I just. 00:09:27
The rules I I would have a question make sure. 00:09:32
Well, if Evan has a meeting tonight yet and he voted no. 00:09:36
I don't know if you'd be able to talk to him to have him, because he'd have to get it back on the agenda. 00:09:39
Correct. 00:09:44
Yes. 00:09:46
I will check into that OK. 00:09:47
He's got a meeting at 4:30 tonight, yeah. 00:09:50
So yes, the goal is to get it back on there because. 00:09:54
Like I said, we had a lot of people absent and and. 00:09:58
I don't think everybody that was there understood exactly what we were trying to do. 00:10:01
Right. 00:10:07
So you guys all get John's e-mail? 00:10:08
That he sent out to all the supervisors as far as explaining and very good job John for explaining that. Thank you. The same 00:10:11
thing. Get a really good job explaining it to the supervisor. 00:10:16
I thought it was going to be more open and shut that it would just go right through. If I would have known that I would have got a 00:10:21
hold you and we would have got that on paper and then I could have brought it up but. 00:10:26
But as they had questions, I thought Cameron did a good job of explaining everything and I thought. 00:10:30
Could go through but nothing's for sure with that. But you know, it's like. 00:10:36
But we will try again, right? Right. So we're a month late, that's all. But. 00:10:42
OK. 00:10:47
Facility director reports building repairs and improvements. OK, so the carpeting and branch one has been completed. It looks very 00:10:49
nice. 00:10:54
We did. We do use the exact same squares that we put in the. 00:11:00
Probate office last year, so we don't have to stock different colors that we can just have one. 00:11:05
Spare stock of spare squares that we can just put in there. 00:11:11
And we would like to keep that standardized as we do more carpet in the courthouse that we keep with that exact same. 00:11:15
Color pattern that we don't have to stock a whole bunch of. 00:11:21
Different patterns that we don't have room to keep so. 00:11:25
Along with that the the courtrooms have a lot of decorative bulkheads that have wallpaper on them. 00:11:28
Judge Pitzinger was not in love with it for the last several years and so we also took that off at this time and. 00:11:35
We bought a little portable steamer at Menards. We just steamed it, took it all off and then. 00:11:42
My guys repainted all those, so that looks much better. We're going to do that in all the courtrooms this year too. 00:11:46
As we convert. 00:11:54
With the LED lighting and stuff, and we do work in the courtrooms, we'll take all that wallpaper off, repaint those bulkheads and. 00:11:55
Just get rid of it, it looks. 00:12:02
At the time it was OK, but it looks very dated right now so. 00:12:04
We'll just get rid of that wallpaper. 00:12:08
John, are you going to be able to do all the courtrooms this year or not? 00:12:11
With the new lighting in that or. 00:12:14
In the painting or? 00:12:16
I'm hoping to have enough time to do that. OK, that's my goal. That's your goal. 00:12:18
Yes, the goal is to have enough time to do it and I think if we go with a game plan, if we plan ahead. 00:12:22
With our lighting switches, which each courtroom has six different switches that control all the lights around six different 00:12:29
circuits. 00:12:33
And if we do all that ahead of time, we plan that all out and we plan our new layout. 00:12:37
Out how we're going to arrange them and stuff like that. I think we can, we can do that, OK. 00:12:42
It's just a matter of my guys having time at the same time that a judge is taking vacation. 00:12:47
OK. 00:12:54
That the goal is to do the other 4 courtrooms, yes. OK. 00:12:55
The new water softeners were installed this week at Henry Dodge A. 00:13:02
Much much smaller brine tank than the old ones and these are actually going to work decent. Those were not working well anymore. 00:13:06
So that's a good thing that we. 00:13:14
Replace those also. 00:13:17
Last week we had two more steam leaks in the boiler room at Henry Dodge. We actually had to shut the boilers off and repair those. 00:13:19
We were able to do those ourselves, which was good. 00:13:24
But it's just more pipes that are rotting out in that boiler room that you know, you're just living on borrowed time with 00:13:29
everything in that heating system up there, so. 00:13:33
We were able to get those done. 00:13:39
Surefire is looking to install the new rooftop chiller in the jail that it has been at Horicon. It's been sitting in their lot for 00:13:42
a while, all wrapped up in plastic. 00:13:46
They're looking at the end of March or the first week in April to put that up on the roof at the jail so they'll be ready to go 00:13:52
for cooling season this year. 00:13:55
And then they also do have our fifty ton unit for the Sheriff's Office sitting there and they plan on doing that sometime in the 00:13:59
next couple of weeks, putting that one in also. 00:14:03
Good. So they're ready to go with all their projects. 00:14:09
We should have just about all new chillers then, right? 00:14:13
I will just have one old one on the courthouse roof and that is in the 2026 capital improvement plan, OK. 00:14:16
So. 00:14:23
Other than that, on the budget update from last year, there's probably going to be close to 200,000 that's going to go back into 00:14:30
the general fund along with that 140,000 from the insurance settlement. 00:14:35
Parts of that I would have liked to carry over, but it's for a different purpose and what fund it was in, so you can't do that. 00:14:44
So we may need to ask for some contingency funds later in the year just because of some other stuff that came up that we couldn't. 00:14:52
Get done before the end of the year that we had to do in the beginning of 25 so. 00:15:00
Other than that, 20 fives. 00:15:05
We're on schedule. We're looking good with our budget numbers so far. 00:15:07
For our operations, we're right in the middle of our annual pod cleaning right now. That's where we go through the jail. 00:15:13
Section by section, we pull out every. 00:15:19
Smoke detector head. We clean all those heads, we clean all the cells, we clean out all the return vents and all the cells. We 00:15:22
clean the light fixtures, the whole thing from top to bottom. 00:15:28
In the jail and that takes us about six weeks. 00:15:34
To do that. 00:15:37
So we really don't do much other maintenance for six weeks. So things get a little backlog there, but. 00:15:39
We do have a lot of things on our list to get to once pod cleaning is done. We got a lot of projects scheduled in different 00:15:45
buildings to work on SO. 00:15:49
As soon as we get done with that at the end of March, we're looking to get back on track with all those other projects. 00:15:53
Where do you go with the inmates when you do pod cleaning? 00:15:58
We generally vacate 6 to 8 cells at a time and they send them to the indoor rec area in that pod. 00:16:02
We do those cells and then they'll put those back in there and then we'll vacate another six or eight cells and they'll send those 00:16:08
to the gym for a while when we when we do that stuff. 00:16:12
And how long does it take you? 00:16:18
John. 00:16:19
Individual cells there is a little over 200. 00:16:22
And then you have all the open dorm style areas like in the in the. 00:16:28
Huber section there, that's all dorm style. 00:16:33
Those they'll send all 24 people like to the classroom in that pot or something, you know, and they'll give us. 00:16:36
X number hours in there and then we'll let them people come back in and eat lunch and then we'll get them back to the classroom 00:16:43
again. We'll finish up in the afternoon. 00:16:46
Each one of those sections takes about a whole day to do. 00:16:51
By the time you go through all that stuff. 00:16:54
I didn't mean to step on you there, Mr. Chairman. I just. I didn't know. Oh, no, you're fine. 00:16:57
It's interesting. I like to hear all that information too. 00:17:01
C pod has 56, D pod has 57, and an A&B have right around 50 so. 00:17:05
But we also do, I mean like all the booking cells and intake, we do all those. 00:17:11
Besides. 00:17:17
So. 00:17:18
That's why it takes us about six weeks. 00:17:20
To do that. 00:17:22
And they need to be redone every year, huh? 00:17:23
And inmates that hard on it or. 00:17:26
You want to go into the cell you only. 00:17:29
The smoke detectors are in the return ducts in the cells, and after a year's time you get a lot of lint and everything going 00:17:33
through there, so you'll end up with a big ball of fuzz around a smoke detector. So it's not really doing much in a year's time. 00:17:39
So we shut the system down, take those out, clean them all out, take them apart, do that. 00:17:46
Put them all back together. 00:17:52
We do remove all the graffiti that's in the cells, whether it be on a wall or a vent or on their writing table or whatever. Some 00:17:54
cells are very clean, some are just totally trashed. 00:17:59
And so we go in and we remove all that stuff so it looks like it should. 00:18:04
Because basically, if it looks trashy. 00:18:11
It keeps getting trashy because. 00:18:14
It looks like it's something that's just allowed to do that you just. 00:18:16
Right on the walls, draw on the walls and do all that kind of stuff. Whereas if you. 00:18:19
Keep it looking. 00:18:23
Decent. You have less of that than. 00:18:25
If you just let it go. 00:18:28
So we try to remove as much of that every year as we can. 00:18:33
Very good. 00:18:37
We just recently moved a couple of offices in the Sheriff's Department for the detectives and we moved a few people around there 00:18:41
and we moved some cubicles up and register deeds. Just got that done a couple weeks ago. 00:18:47
And the only other thing we had on is yesterday, I just locked in our gas pricing for the next three years. 00:18:55
Umm, I got a e-mail from our constellation. 00:19:04
Rep yesterday or actually? 00:19:07
Tuesday afternoon. 00:19:10
And he said. 00:19:12
We should lock in now. That's his recommendation. So we did that yesterday. We locked in for three years. 00:19:13
What did he base his recommendation on to? 00:19:22
Lock in for three years right now. 00:19:25
Given drill, baby drill, they they think it's not going to. 00:19:27
Affect them. It's much cheaper. Well, the purpose of locking it avoids your high in your low swings. It's not that you want it's 00:19:32
obviously you want a bargain, but you're not looking to. 00:19:37
Get a bargain. You're looking for stability in your pricing for the next three years. 00:19:42
But also the fact that. 00:19:47
With a couple more of these LNG export terminals scheduled to come online, that's going to take more. 00:19:51
Natural gas to liquefy and send to Europe. So there's going to be demand for that. 00:19:59
Demand for electrical generation has also gone up using natural gas. 00:20:04
And as more of these data centers come online nationwide, so you're going to see an increase in the electricity demand also. 00:20:09
And they don't see much potential in. 00:20:16
Increase use of coal. Coal is still going to go down in usage. 00:20:20
As utilities phase this out because it's cheaper than for an empty generate using natural gas. 00:20:24
So the demand for natural gas is going to go up. 00:20:29
Just based on electricity generation also. 00:20:32
So they did not see much downside in a pricing coming up in the near term, so they recommended locking in. 00:20:36
Was there much of A price difference from the last time you were locked in? 00:20:44
About $0.60 a deck of therm, but the cost of transport went down about $0.10 a deca therm, so it was about $0.50 higher than it 00:20:49
was. 00:20:53
September something I think the last time I looked. 00:20:59
But. 00:21:02
They thought the the time to lock in now was now. 00:21:04
What is a deca therm? What is that considered toward like versus a pound or? 00:21:08
Is it dearly No, like the conversion? 00:21:13
Therm is a measurement of the amount of gas, Yeah. So there really doesn't go in their own weight or volume or something. Volume. 00:21:22
And it is a temperature compensated unit. 00:21:31
Yes, it's compensated. When you get your utility bill, it's compensated every day. There's an adjustment every day for the amount 00:21:35
of. 00:21:38
Therms that you used every day on your list, that's. 00:21:43
Listed out yesterday. 00:21:45
Because when it's condensed it's liquid, and when it's. 00:21:46
Run to your building yes, it goes to turns into a liquid and that's how they export that on ships to Europe and then they. 00:21:49
Heat it back up and turn it back into a gas once again. 00:21:56
I want to throw a question out here on. 00:22:03
Maybe off face in that. 00:22:06
I just read the other day that with these tariffs going in on Canada and Mexico. 00:22:08
Canada, Canada says, well, if he's going to enforce these tariffs, they're going to shut off one and a half million people. 00:22:14
In the United States, from power that they supply power to, are we part of that million and a half that they supply power to? 00:22:20
No, we're not. 00:22:27
That got suspended, huh? That got suspended anyway, right? But I mean, they, they supply 1,000,000 1/2 people with electricity. 00:22:28
Canada power goes to Minnesota and New York and a couple other states out on the East Coast. OK, Wisconsin ain't part of that. 00:22:36
All right, that's what I wanted to know. 00:22:43
It's kind of scary. 00:22:47
I mean, they play these games and OK, I'm gonna shut power off the million and a half people. What are these million and a half 00:22:49
people gonna do, you know? 00:22:52
It's nothing to play with, but where it is that they can move stuff around on the grid, change things around to supply that 00:22:56
accommodate them off. But yeah, OK, Minnesota, it's all right. 00:23:02
So that's where we just locked in. So we're locked in through. 00:23:12
October of 28. 00:23:17
Good, good. 00:23:20
And that's all I got for you. Thank you. 00:23:22
But does anybody have any future agenda items they want the price to go up on gas store. Was it comparable or it had gone up since 00:23:24
the end of September? Beginning of October it had gone up some. 00:23:29
But not crazy, yeah. 00:23:35
And part of that was just the amount of that got used this winter because this winter was colder than. 00:23:37
Last winter. 00:23:43
So right now there's a lot less in storage than what there was last year at this time and it's also below the five year average. 00:23:44
What's in storage? 00:23:48
So again, they they looked at all those factors and that's why he sent the e-mail out recommending that we we lock him. 00:23:54
OK, go ahead. If the prices of a natural debt gas do go down a lot, is there some kind of escape clause or are we locked in just 00:23:59
we are locked in? 00:24:04
The other thing is how I'll just tell you guys how this works is. 00:24:11
When we lock this in, you buy X number of decathlons per month. 00:24:15
And if you're under. 00:24:22
They get sold back at a reduced rate. 00:24:24
And if you use over, you purchase at a much higher market rate. So you want to try to. 00:24:27
Peg your usage every month. 00:24:35
For each building of what it's going to be so you don't sell back at a cheaper rate or buy. 00:24:37
Additional at a higher rate. 00:24:43
So our three buildings that are on transport gas are this building, the Henry Dodge and the Justice facility. 00:24:46
The Sheriff's Department, we just pay on JPOD, we just pay the market rate, whatever, because they're not big enough to be on 00:24:52
transport gas. You have to have a certain volume to be on there. 00:24:56
Anything else? 00:25:04
Has got any future agenda items you want on for next month? 00:25:09
We'll just leave it up to John then. 00:25:15
Keep us up to date on everything that's going on. 00:25:18
Next meeting date and time. 00:25:22
Would be April 3rd. 00:25:24
At 4:00, does that work for everybody? 00:25:26
1st Thursday the month, yeah. 00:25:31
OK, that's what it'll be. 00:25:33
OK, then I'll call the meeting. 00:25:36
Declared a meeting adjourned at 4:31. 00:25:39
Thank you very much for coming. 00:25:42