Conservation/Extension Committee Meeting
Transcript
| I've taken the roll call. We have 11 absent. We have a quorum. | 00:00:00 | |
| Do I have any public comment today? | 00:00:06 | |
| You're not seeing any of the public here for comment. | 00:00:09 | |
| OK, it's your pleasure. The minutes from January 27th. | 00:00:13 | |
| I'll move to approve. OK. John moves to approve her first and we need a second. | 00:00:16 | |
| I'll suck up Ken second. | 00:00:21 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:00:23 | |
| No, but can I talk about public comment a minute? I don't know if anybody has seen this, but Kirk Calkins was asking for LCC | 00:00:25 | |
| supervisors. | 00:00:29 | |
| Where I believe he's on, is he on the executive committee or legislative committee, Legislative, legislative. | 00:00:33 | |
| He's begging for supervisors. | 00:00:38 | |
| To come. | 00:00:41 | |
| And I used to do that a number of years ago. | 00:00:42 | |
| But it was on my own ticket. Is there any way the county would be able to have someone? | 00:00:45 | |
| If they wanted to. | 00:00:50 | |
| I don't want to because I'm too busy, but I just thought I'd mention it. | 00:00:53 | |
| That we could talk about it at the end of future items. | 00:00:56 | |
| Yeah, I can check into that. All right. Put that at the end for future items. | 00:00:59 | |
| OK, back to what we're doing. All those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:01:03 | |
| Passes. Approve the minutes then. | 00:01:10 | |
| OK. | 00:01:13 | |
| Update on the Community Needs Forum, and that's this coming Friday between 1:00 and 3:00. | 00:01:15 | |
| Encourage the committee members to come if they can. So go ahead. | 00:01:21 | |
| Yep, come on up, you got to be on TV. | 00:01:27 | |
| Got to hear you and all that. | 00:01:31 | |
| All right. | 00:01:33 | |
| Hi, good morning everyone. We send out over 312. | 00:01:41 | |
| Invites. | 00:01:47 | |
| To our community partners included all of course, the department heads. | 00:01:48 | |
| All the supervisors as well as all the partners that we've worked with. | 00:01:52 | |
| Right now we have 40 that RSVP, 32 attending. | 00:01:57 | |
| So that's great. You know, you never know when you send that out. | 00:02:02 | |
| So that's really the updates this Friday like. | 00:02:06 | |
| He said, how would you, how would you like us to disperse among the? | 00:02:09 | |
| You can divide it up into five or something. Yeah, 5 groupings, right? Yep. We'll have egg, We're gonna take dairy and crops, put | 00:02:15 | |
| them together. Well, youth development, we'll have community development in HDR. So I think that's 4. | 00:02:23 | |
| But anyway that you you know you want to, you're more than welcome to sit at any table that you really have an interest. | 00:02:32 | |
| Into here a little bit more, we do do a share back. | 00:02:39 | |
| If you don't know the the processes, we're going to be the tables. We have questions that are already generated. Every question is | 00:02:43 | |
| the same on each table. | 00:02:47 | |
| And then once we have these discussions. | 00:02:51 | |
| Umm, come back and you share like the top three things that resonated in that group. What is great about? | 00:02:54 | |
| This people that couldn't attend, they still answered the question. So we have a lot of those. | 00:03:02 | |
| Answers to the questions already. So we will take that information and compile it all and share it back in addition to a couple | 00:03:08 | |
| months we'll talk about. | 00:03:13 | |
| The priorities that we see from this in addition to the Community forum. | 00:03:19 | |
| We also look at other data. | 00:03:24 | |
| To extension always looks at other data to bring in. I know Cameron's been. | 00:03:26 | |
| Working with our human development relationship educator to learn about what data she's been using. So we take all that and | 00:03:31 | |
| synthesize. It takes a couple months, I know. | 00:03:36 | |
| It sounds like, wow, that's a lot of time, but we want to make sure we're doing it right. It's interesting this week, last week I | 00:03:40 | |
| was. | 00:03:44 | |
| In at a conference and I spent a lot of time with the Illinois folks that actually did this. So I asked a lot more questions. How | 00:03:48 | |
| did this look? What are we, you know? So that was a great opportunity. | 00:03:54 | |
| Any other questions on that? Yeah, on the OK after this meeting, because we have a time frame here, we have to move along to get | 00:04:01 | |
| it to the county board. What for next month? Are you going to like e-mail us a report then beforehand that we could read or how is | 00:04:06 | |
| that? How does that or just kind of let me know. | 00:04:12 | |
| Take the priorities. You're probably going to get more than you probably want it. I figured we would. | 00:04:20 | |
| Yeah. And that's fine because you want to see the the breadth, you know, the depth of what's going to be shared. And then from | 00:04:25 | |
| there we'll work with each one of the program areas. | 00:04:29 | |
| To identify, OK, this is egg. These are the priorities. Are we doing this already? That's a one thing that I think you're going to | 00:04:34 | |
| be surprised at because a lot of the questions and the answers I've been reading, it's things we do already. | 00:04:41 | |
| So this is a, but there may be things that arise from the conversations that we may not be doing or we're not addressing. So we'll | 00:04:47 | |
| look at all that. As I said in the past, things may come up that maybe not in our scope right yet like AI, but it doesn't mean | 00:04:53 | |
| that we, this information is shared with you. | 00:05:00 | |
| Here, but it also shared with the state so they know what's going on. | 00:05:07 | |
| In certain time, you know, we can look at those things, especially if it's not just. | 00:05:11 | |
| Dodge County, they're going to do these community forums across the state in time. We're just ahead of the game, which is great. I | 00:05:17 | |
| like that kind of stuff. | 00:05:20 | |
| And so we may be seeing there's evolving themes that we haven't addressed in the past. | 00:05:25 | |
| So that goes to Madison. We're gonna have to schedule any extra meetings between now and before the. | 00:05:30 | |
| You know, like. | 00:05:37 | |
| Going over things, do we need an extra meeting or I mean, you have to answer today, but think about that. Do we need because we, I | 00:05:38 | |
| think originally when Cameron and I were were setting this up, we thought we might have to have a couple extra meetings just to | 00:05:44 | |
| make sure that there's time for thorough discussion because we are talking about the direction of the, of the county and. | 00:05:50 | |
| Incorporating these people in that direction. And I just want, I just don't want to put it on here and go to a quick list and then | 00:05:56 | |
| you want to talk for an hour, you know what I mean? | 00:06:01 | |
| In the timeline that I shared, it was more of meetings with you, Andrew and Cameron. So maybe we'll follow up, OK. | 00:06:06 | |
| Monthly, and we can do that more if we need to as things evolved. | 00:06:13 | |
| The programmer is actually working on a format that will be. I remember what you said. Let's make it real. | 00:06:18 | |
| High level, user friendly, not give you tons of stuff. So you'll have that formal report because I believe we go it'll be | 00:06:23 | |
| presented in May here and then board at the board too. | 00:06:29 | |
| Would we, yeah. Would we talk about the community farm at all and one of the egg areas would we, I mean, because that's been in a | 00:06:35 | |
| priority this. | 00:06:39 | |
| The upcoming possibility of a farm. | 00:06:42 | |
| County Farm, would that be in one of these or not? Your Cameron, would that be incorporated or? | 00:06:45 | |
| I'm sure I'm thinking here, I'm Dale reminds me. I gotta think there. You know, we want to. We want that. I'll bring it up for | 00:06:50 | |
| sure, OK? I just want to make sure because that's a priority for us to achieve. | 00:06:55 | |
| Any other questions from the committee about the upcoming? | 00:07:07 | |
| If we can spread out, it'd be good. I know we want to be in our areas expertise, but if we can spread out I think it'd be good. | 00:07:13 | |
| Try to. | 00:07:16 | |
| So I don't know if not to be rude, but might try to go to a couple of them, you know? | 00:07:19 | |
| You can, absolutely. One thing that was interesting when I talked to the Illinois folks, they said the best thing out of the whole | 00:07:23 | |
| forum is how the community, the partners that didn't know each other, really connected. | 00:07:30 | |
| And they started talking, boy, I didn't know you did this. And so not only is it helpful for the county and extension, but it was | 00:07:37 | |
| also really helpful for the partners. | 00:07:42 | |
| To hear what was going on. | 00:07:46 | |
| OK, you have introduction to new Community impact reports. | 00:07:50 | |
| I assume that's what you it's included in the packet. | 00:07:55 | |
| That's on the second page. I believe it starts on the second page. This is the one of the reports and I think they've done been | 00:07:58 | |
| done quite a while in the past. We have a portal that our educators are expectation required that they report. We scale it down a | 00:08:05 | |
| bit because it's lengthy. | 00:08:11 | |
| So we really. | 00:08:18 | |
| Excuse me, tried to focus on. | 00:08:19 | |
| The impact here in Dodge County, you'll receive these every month and I know. | 00:08:22 | |
| Amber's been working on it for the next one coming up. | 00:08:29 | |
| So we're a month behind usually, just so you know. | 00:08:33 | |
| So what they report is a month behind just because of how they reported the end of the month. So that's one of it. This also is on | 00:08:36 | |
| our website. | 00:08:40 | |
| And in addition to that, remember when Manuel was here last time, we showed the one page report that really focused on what Manuel | 00:08:44 | |
| was doing. Well, now they are accessible on our website and you want to pull one of those up? | 00:08:52 | |
| Those are the monthly ones. | 00:09:02 | |
| I just talked about there you go. | 00:09:03 | |
| And so each educator and you can just click on one well. | 00:09:05 | |
| We'll have these. | 00:09:10 | |
| You know, and we'll do these probably quarterly. | 00:09:11 | |
| And it really talks about what's going on here, what needs assessment that they have done, what was the outcome, who they're | 00:09:14 | |
| working with. | 00:09:18 | |
| And who they've finished things up. | 00:09:22 | |
| I know that's one question that we get quite often. So what's going on in Dodge County? | 00:09:25 | |
| So this really addresses that. Usually they'll have an evaluation piece on here. This was very quick and new for the educators, so | 00:09:30 | |
| they rallied and got this done rather quickly. | 00:09:36 | |
| So what I really value in these opportunities to talk to you is. | 00:09:42 | |
| Feedback. | 00:09:47 | |
| You may think about, well you know, this is good, but maybe we need this. So think about the feedback, especially for this one | 00:09:48 | |
| that helps us. | 00:09:53 | |
| Communicate what we're doing effectively. So think about it. You don't have to answer now. | 00:09:58 | |
| But if you see something, you can shoot me an e-mail or talk to one of the educators or one night come to these. | 00:10:03 | |
| Meetings. So we do really appreciate the feedback. | 00:10:09 | |
| And like Amber has on there the Dodge County monthly highlights that was the the. | 00:10:12 | |
| On the second. | 00:10:17 | |
| Page you see the report. | 00:10:19 | |
| So they're all on our website, very accessible. | 00:10:24 | |
| Anybody. | 00:10:28 | |
| Any questions from the committee members with reports? | 00:10:29 | |
| OK. All right. Moving on to highlights. | 00:10:33 | |
| I don't know what that is that. | 00:10:39 | |
| That's what that's what you just did. OK. OK. All right, All right, Pat, you're up. | 00:10:41 | |
| Pat is our Community Development educator and. | 00:10:47 | |
| Yeah. | 00:10:59 | |
| All right. Thank you. | 00:11:11 | |
| Thank you. | 00:11:18 | |
| I hope you are all fine on this. | 00:11:26 | |
| Bright Monday morning. That's much warmer than it was last week. | 00:11:29 | |
| What I'm going to do today is talk about a program I an upcoming program that I have. | 00:11:34 | |
| Coming down the. | 00:11:41 | |
| Down the road. | 00:11:43 | |
| And it's also an opportunity to help you better understand the kind of work that community development educators do. Obviously, | 00:11:45 | |
| I've been doing a lot of needs assessments and things like that. | 00:11:50 | |
| But it's always nice to actually get on the ground and do some. | 00:11:58 | |
| Teaching some programming. | 00:12:02 | |
| So. | 00:12:04 | |
| I'm going to talk about a program called First Impressions. | 00:12:05 | |
| And this is like a secret chopper program or an exchange program between two communities that are somewhat similar. | 00:12:09 | |
| But a little bit of a distance away. | 00:12:17 | |
| And it's an opportunity for community members. | 00:12:20 | |
| To gain some information as visitors to a different community. | 00:12:26 | |
| And it's an opportunity for the community participating. | 00:12:31 | |
| To get a better understanding of what it does well, what it could do better. | 00:12:36 | |
| And I want you to know that this program has been in existence. | 00:12:42 | |
| Oh my gosh. | 00:12:46 | |
| Sincerely, 90s. | 00:12:49 | |
| And I've already done a couple of these. | 00:12:51 | |
| In my past job. | 00:12:54 | |
| And what happened is that a friend of mine who is the economic and community development director for the city of Columbus stopped | 00:12:56 | |
| by my office and said. | 00:13:01 | |
| Boy, we got a group of people and they really need something to kind of kick start what they're doing. | 00:13:07 | |
| Do you think you could do arrange an exchange program? And I'm like, well. | 00:13:14 | |
| OK, let's give it a try. | 00:13:20 | |
| And. | 00:13:22 | |
| I solicited my fellow educators and. | 00:13:26 | |
| Gotta got a positive response so. | 00:13:32 | |
| I will be doing an exchange with Dodgeville. | 00:13:37 | |
| So about the same size, kind of. | 00:13:42 | |
| Somewhat similar. | 00:13:44 | |
| And there are some very specific things that. | 00:13:47 | |
| People who participate can learn. | 00:13:51 | |
| You know, if you think about it and I asked you, you know. | 00:13:53 | |
| If you're from Juneau, it's like, where's the best breakfast or whatever? You can probably tell me, no problem. | 00:13:58 | |
| But if I'm just coming in, are there good signs, street signs? | 00:14:04 | |
| Do does the City Hall give good information? What is the you know? | 00:14:08 | |
| That kind of thing it's often easy for us to overlook. | 00:14:14 | |
| Challenges that our communities face. | 00:14:19 | |
| And that outside perspective can really highlight both the positive things. | 00:14:23 | |
| And some of the challenges. | 00:14:28 | |
| And that. | 00:14:32 | |
| That the most powerful part of it is that. | 00:14:33 | |
| Those exchanges, the reports that are written, can actually give. | 00:14:36 | |
| The Community A starting place for Community Action. | 00:14:41 | |
| And when I was approached by my friend, he was like, you know, I've got these people, they really want to do some stuff, but | 00:14:46 | |
| they're kind of struggling. And it's this kind of program can really give them something to grab onto and. | 00:14:53 | |
| And take charge. | 00:15:00 | |
| Umm, So what does the program look like? | 00:15:03 | |
| To communities agree that they are willing and ready to do an exchange. | 00:15:08 | |
| Each community has a coordinator. | 00:15:15 | |
| And in this case. | 00:15:17 | |
| Umm, I will serve as coordinator for Columbus. | 00:15:20 | |
| And my friend. | 00:15:23 | |
| Will the Conrad agent in Iowa County will service their coordinator? | 00:15:25 | |
| And we recruit 5 to 6 volunteers. It might be from the community at large. | 00:15:30 | |
| It might be from the Chamber of Commerce. It certainly depends on who's the. | 00:15:35 | |
| The sponsor. | 00:15:40 | |
| And we trained the volunteers, you know, here's what you need to be looking for. | 00:15:42 | |
| Here's what to expect. Here's the review process. | 00:15:48 | |
| Answering me questions they have. | 00:15:52 | |
| And then we arrange a time and a date. | 00:15:55 | |
| And we travel. | 00:15:58 | |
| To that. | 00:15:59 | |
| Partner Community. | 00:16:01 | |
| And we're going to collect. | 00:16:03 | |
| You know. | 00:16:05 | |
| Photos and each participant is going to write up some research, a whole series of questions. | 00:16:06 | |
| Like you know how with the signage and. | 00:16:12 | |
| You know, when you went to the City Hall, did they have the information you needed? Were they? | 00:16:15 | |
| Polite and then. | 00:16:19 | |
| That coordinator takes the lead role in preparing that final report. | 00:16:23 | |
| Those reports are shared. | 00:16:28 | |
| And community meetings are held to. | 00:16:29 | |
| Share that information more broadly. | 00:16:32 | |
| And I will tell you. | 00:16:36 | |
| At least in my experience doing this. | 00:16:37 | |
| They're really, really great exchanges that communities that I LED through this. | 00:16:40 | |
| Actually took the information to heart. | 00:16:46 | |
| And made some significant changes in how how they did things in the community. | 00:16:49 | |
| Both how they interacted with people and sort of things like signage and they put in place a. | 00:16:55 | |
| You know. | 00:17:04 | |
| Ordinances for. | 00:17:06 | |
| Street sign for business signs and. | 00:17:09 | |
| I mean I I had. | 00:17:13 | |
| People years, years after having done this, that came up and said this was the best thing they'd ever done. | 00:17:14 | |
| They really had a fun time as well as doing something that was really valuable. | 00:17:21 | |
| For their community. | 00:17:27 | |
| So I'm going to ask, do you have any questions? I mean, this is an example of some of the kind of work that we do. | 00:17:29 | |
| I think it's a great idea. We in Beaver Dam have two focus groups we started. | 00:17:38 | |
| Around the lake. | 00:17:43 | |
| And it's interesting the first session. | 00:17:44 | |
| You're dispelling the. | 00:17:47 | |
| Untruth or. | 00:17:49 | |
| Tribal knowledge that really is, in fact. | 00:17:50 | |
| And you learn things from the people that. | 00:17:53 | |
| You wouldn't necessarily gain otherwise over coffee and rolls. | 00:17:57 | |
| A lot of **** comes out. | 00:18:02 | |
| Oh yeah, it really it's important to take that time. | 00:18:03 | |
| Umm, because we do. We sort of build up our own. | 00:18:09 | |
| Sort of myths. | 00:18:12 | |
| About our community. | 00:18:14 | |
| You know, I had one community in there. | 00:18:16 | |
| Their their community motto was. | 00:18:19 | |
| Name of city, the friendly place. And it was like. | 00:18:23 | |
| You've never asked. | 00:18:27 | |
| Anybody who visited, whether this was a friendly place, trust me, it's not. | 00:18:29 | |
| You know, and, and it's like think about it when you're going into a community. | 00:18:38 | |
| Think about how important signage is. | 00:18:42 | |
| You're looking for the community swimming pool. There's no sign to lead you that place. You're looking for the schools. | 00:18:45 | |
| No signs to lead you that place. | 00:18:53 | |
| And I tell you as I drive around. | 00:18:55 | |
| Dodge County, it's like. | 00:18:58 | |
| I'm looking for that stuff. It's like. | 00:19:00 | |
| They're doing a good job here, or boy, I can't find anything. | 00:19:02 | |
| So that's an excellent idea. That's yet another way to do this. | 00:19:07 | |
| The town would be Ram, the city be rent administrator. | 00:19:12 | |
| Notice that there's no signs this way to the beach. | 00:19:15 | |
| Go away. | 00:19:18 | |
| So you're going to start putting those in? | 00:19:21 | |
| Very good. | 00:19:23 | |
| You look at digital signs also, I mean most people now they, you know, they're gonna look on their phone for information about | 00:19:25 | |
| their community. Do you look at that also as an impression? We look at their digital. | 00:19:30 | |
| Footprint as well, that's sort of some of the pre visit. | 00:19:35 | |
| Assignment. We have one or two people whose job is to go and look at. | 00:19:38 | |
| You know all the. | 00:19:43 | |
| Their web presence. | 00:19:46 | |
| And actually call. I mean, you know. | 00:19:48 | |
| Call and see what kind of reception they get. | 00:19:51 | |
| These don't happen overnight, where our timeline is the actual visit. | 00:19:56 | |
| Will be in January and and we need to. | 00:20:02 | |
| Meet with people and have time to get them trained and. | 00:20:05 | |
| The visit, the visit will be when, what month? We are looking to do it in June, June yes, of course we were scheduling this on the | 00:20:10 | |
| day it was the coldest here so. | 00:20:14 | |
| But if you think about all the things that are happening, you know, it seemed a good time. Any other questions? | 00:20:22 | |
| Questions from the members, what can I ask you? What's the next thing you'll be looking at doing that or combining with so we can | 00:20:29 | |
| update us on what you're doing since we have you here, OK. | 00:20:33 | |
| Well. | 00:20:37 | |
| Haven't had enough caffeine yet? | 00:20:42 | |
| I am working with a couple of our specialists, Carl Green. | 00:20:45 | |
| And Matt Kuras. | 00:20:50 | |
| And we're looking at the question of housing and housing data. | 00:20:51 | |
| And um. | 00:20:56 | |
| You know, we have some good data. | 00:20:58 | |
| It's largely updated. It was done by. | 00:21:00 | |
| The professor at UW Whitewater. | 00:21:05 | |
| There are some things that could be updated, but it's. | 00:21:08 | |
| One of the things we're looking at doing right now is actually a survey of. | 00:21:11 | |
| The users to see what it is you actually. | 00:21:16 | |
| Want to know? I mean, if any of you remember that report, it's 134 pages. | 00:21:21 | |
| Huge. It is rich with data. | 00:21:27 | |
| And I can tell you that there might be like. | 00:21:31 | |
| Two or three people, I being one of them, who are like excited by all that data. So it's like. | 00:21:35 | |
| What is it that you really need to help you make? | 00:21:41 | |
| Decisions and think through this process. | 00:21:45 | |
| So we're going to be putting together a survey. So that's the next big thing, OK. And then Dale and I were at the comprehensive | 00:21:48 | |
| plan. I know we saw some of that stuff. It was really discouraging, quite frankly. | 00:21:53 | |
| Looking at some of the statistics, you know. | 00:21:59 | |
| And I don't the other supervisors will eventually see it and and and are you going to help help our county then work towards like. | 00:22:02 | |
| We just don't want the data we want to, like, move forward. You know what I mean? Yeah, I. | 00:22:11 | |
| I am available, you know, I know it's, it's, it's about working well with Nate Olson and and your department. | 00:22:16 | |
| But that's one of the things that we can do is is work with groups and organizations. | 00:22:23 | |
| Help them take that data and turn it into action. | 00:22:28 | |
| Yeah. | 00:22:34 | |
| Planning Comp planning is. | 00:22:36 | |
| A very challenging process because you're spending a lot of money. You hired a good firm. | 00:22:39 | |
| To help you with that process. | 00:22:44 | |
| But ultimately, those decisions about. | 00:22:48 | |
| What you do with the data, the action plan you put together is what makes the the difference. | 00:22:51 | |
| And it's easier to bite off a little less and make sure you get it done then to go, oh, I'm going to take on this whole thing | 00:22:57 | |
| because you have time. | 00:23:02 | |
| Yeah. And just so the rest of you know, if you haven't seen some of that data, the projections for the future and some of the | 00:23:07 | |
| things, Dale, you and I saw some of those like or. | 00:23:11 | |
| We don't want ahead. | 00:23:14 | |
| You know what I mean? We don't want to do that. We want to go the right way. If we don't, if we sit and do nothing and we don't | 00:23:15 | |
| act and community develop throughout our county. | 00:23:20 | |
| There could be some problems and, you know, we we have to act and we want to act and we want to be smart about it. And that's | 00:23:25 | |
| where UW comes in. Yeah. And and I think one of the things that we can do that's really helpful. | 00:23:31 | |
| Is actually, you look at all those things and you're like, where do we start? | 00:23:37 | |
| Where do we start? | 00:23:41 | |
| Didn't you kind of feel like that when you were looking at all this overwhelming? | 00:23:43 | |
| It's overwhelming. | 00:23:46 | |
| And what I have always told the people I work with. | 00:23:48 | |
| How do you eat an elephant? | 00:23:51 | |
| One bite at a time. | 00:23:53 | |
| And almost sometimes the priority just kind of slaps you in the face and you're like, OK, let's work on that. | 00:23:55 | |
| But sometimes you really need to think through. | 00:24:03 | |
| Through priorities. But the the real kicker is. | 00:24:07 | |
| Just take that first. | 00:24:10 | |
| Step. Take that first. | 00:24:13 | |
| Bite. | 00:24:15 | |
| You know, build something positive. | 00:24:16 | |
| Put in place action that. | 00:24:20 | |
| That you can accomplish and get done, and that sort of builds up the psychology of. | 00:24:22 | |
| We can do this. We can get this thing done. | 00:24:28 | |
| And you know, honestly some of the things. | 00:24:32 | |
| You know, they're so influenced by outside forces. | 00:24:36 | |
| That you may not have as much. | 00:24:41 | |
| You know, agency to address them. | 00:24:45 | |
| But there are plenty of things that you can do. | 00:24:47 | |
| So take those on. | 00:24:50 | |
| But that's one of the things it's like. | 00:24:52 | |
| You know, help you decide Russell through all that stuff and and go, OK. | 00:24:54 | |
| There's all this, but we're going to start here. | 00:24:59 | |
| We have resources, we have ideas. This is a place we're going to start. | 00:25:02 | |
| OK. Any other questions? | 00:25:08 | |
| OK. | 00:25:10 | |
| We'll be on Friday then. | 00:25:11 | |
| Oh yeah. | 00:25:13 | |
| OK, extension be Cindy, before you leave, I have a quick question. You're not here for future agenda items. | 00:25:15 | |
| Those supervisors that were here in Cameron, we were asked by one of the supervisors at the county board meeting if the UW | 00:25:22 | |
| Extension provides. | 00:25:26 | |
| Services for design and you don't have to get back to me because it's not on our agenda, but if you could please get back to | 00:25:31 | |
| Cameron. | 00:25:34 | |
| So we could have a definitive answer we. | 00:25:37 | |
| Had a question about services you offer at no charge to the county. | 00:25:41 | |
| And I think it needs to be clarified and Cameron looked into it. So that'd be helpful for if you could do that before you leave | 00:25:45 | |
| today or soon. | 00:25:50 | |
| Cameron knows exactly what I'm talking about. So the other supervisors so. | 00:25:54 | |
| Thank you. Right, Cameron? Right. We want to nail it. | 00:25:58 | |
| It's extension this extension committee. | 00:26:01 | |
| Thank you. | 00:26:04 | |
| He'll he'll let you know. | 00:26:05 | |
| All right. | 00:26:08 | |
| All right. | 00:26:11 | |
| So. | 00:26:13 | |
| I am just gonna speak to Matt, OK? | 00:26:15 | |
| Morning, everyone. | 00:26:19 | |
| NRCS can't make it today. They have a couple meetings and they're out in the field, so they asked me to pass on a few notes for | 00:26:21 | |
| that. There's not a whole lot going on for NRCS. | 00:26:25 | |
| Sign up Wise, they are currently working on their existing CE. | 00:26:31 | |
| CSP contracts. | 00:26:35 | |
| Believe the field office is out doing field visits, whatever they need to do for that that planning and contracting process. | 00:26:37 | |
| They also just wanted me to pass along information in regards to the government cutbacks. | 00:26:45 | |
| They are affected. | 00:26:52 | |
| It is kind of a chaotic situation there right now. I think in our area we have at least. | 00:26:54 | |
| 6 maybe 10 people that have been released from service. | 00:27:01 | |
| Part of how many? | 00:27:05 | |
| In our office, it's 30. | 00:27:07 | |
| So again, I don't know if that's just in our office or if that's in our area. | 00:27:10 | |
| So they just wanted to pass that information on that if. | 00:27:15 | |
| Receiving services, they may be a little delayed. | 00:27:20 | |
| As they figure out who's going to cover what from the people that have left the agency. | 00:27:23 | |
| In regards to that. | 00:27:30 | |
| There's the resignation thing That again. | 00:27:32 | |
| Has been put on. We have not received any information. | 00:27:36 | |
| As an agency, exactly who those members are. | 00:27:39 | |
| That will be leaving on that. I did hear that our district has. | 00:27:43 | |
| A fair number. So again in the future the numbers will be reducing even more. | 00:27:48 | |
| Which will delay services. | 00:27:53 | |
| In the field. | 00:27:56 | |
| So just so you guys are aware of that. | 00:27:57 | |
| From NRCS. | 00:27:59 | |
| Any questions on NRCS and I can't answer a lot but just some information. | 00:28:01 | |
| So do the feeling that a lot of conservation programs are going to be. | 00:28:06 | |
| Down skilled. | 00:28:10 | |
| More than likely. | 00:28:12 | |
| Just an assumption at this point. | 00:28:13 | |
| Again, dealing with that, our continuing resolution as an agency goes through March 15th. | 00:28:16 | |
| No projection yet as to what they're going to do as far as giving us money to operate beyond that or a government shutdown. | 00:28:24 | |
| So we'll see what happens when that comes around. | 00:28:33 | |
| FSA. | 00:28:37 | |
| As of right now. | 00:28:39 | |
| FSA. | 00:28:41 | |
| Has been bypassed with the firings. | 00:28:43 | |
| But we did have a number of people take the resignation package. | 00:28:46 | |
| Again, they have not released the information to us so. | 00:28:50 | |
| I know locally in my offices I do not have any staff leaving. | 00:28:55 | |
| But I do know in the surrounding area some of the offices have been. | 00:29:00 | |
| Gutted pretty heavily so my staff may be called upon to assist in other offices. | 00:29:04 | |
| But with that being said, we still are rolling forward with the continued farm bill. | 00:29:10 | |
| We have our dairy margin coverage program. | 00:29:16 | |
| Which we're signing up producers for. That runs through March 31st. | 00:29:20 | |
| And then our commodity program, ARC PLC. | 00:29:24 | |
| Has enrollment running to April 15th. | 00:29:28 | |
| So we are working on those two right now. We are also making plans to continue with our spring crop reporting. | 00:29:32 | |
| There has not been any mention of any. | 00:29:39 | |
| New CRP. | 00:29:42 | |
| Activity. | 00:29:45 | |
| Although we have received authority to continue with the CRP, we have. | 00:29:46 | |
| And to make modifications and corrections to any existing contract and get payments out the door. | 00:29:51 | |
| So. | 00:29:58 | |
| With that, does anybody have any questions for me? | 00:29:59 | |
| Does NRCS and final activity impact from this change? These changes people like? | 00:30:03 | |
| I'm not 100% sure. I have not talked to Cory on the Fond du Lac office. | 00:30:08 | |
| Again, if he's hired anybody there. | 00:30:14 | |
| Brand new within the last two years, I would say yes. | 00:30:17 | |
| OK, I know it affected. | 00:30:23 | |
| At least one person. | 00:30:25 | |
| In this office here. | 00:30:27 | |
| In Juneau. | 00:30:28 | |
| I'm not sure about Fond du Lac. | 00:30:30 | |
| I also know that. | 00:30:32 | |
| An engineer they recently hired that used to work for DACCAP out of our office out of Juno. | 00:30:34 | |
| He was terminated. | 00:30:41 | |
| I know for area office we lost five people out of this. All the engineers are gone because they were all new. | 00:30:43 | |
| Some of the wildlife biologists that we hired were gone. | 00:30:50 | |
| And some of the support staff is gone. | 00:30:53 | |
| So I have a question. | 00:30:56 | |
| How did you employees respond to Mrs. Mr. Musk? | 00:30:58 | |
| Request for every employee to state what they did last week. | 00:31:02 | |
| That is currently under review. | 00:31:06 | |
| So John, John Pars, you know, we've got people that depend on these services in our county. | 00:31:11 | |
| And the county's name is associated with. | 00:31:18 | |
| With it, even though it's not us directly. | 00:31:21 | |
| When you have knowledge of something, we have to let everybody know you know what I mean? I don't want someone depending on. | 00:31:25 | |
| Something and then it's not there. | 00:31:32 | |
| Like if you were used to something happening every year and now it's not going to happen. | 00:31:35 | |
| I just don't know how. | 00:31:39 | |
| Is there any discussion among that about people like yourself and the county? From the county's point of view, I just don't want | 00:31:42 | |
| anyone to blame the county for. | 00:31:45 | |
| Federal services cut and they said, well, we didn't know when we depended on it. | 00:31:49 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:31:53 | |
| I know we've worked well with Corey in the past and will continue to work with him as his staff gets cut short. If he needs | 00:31:55 | |
| assistance we'll we'll provide what we can form. | 00:32:00 | |
| I have not talked to Corey lately on this. That's something I intend to do. | 00:32:06 | |
| As far as? | 00:32:12 | |
| The state goes and programs. | 00:32:14 | |
| I got a. | 00:32:18 | |
| A memo from National Association Conservation districts The IRA funds. The Inflation Reduction Act funds. | 00:32:19 | |
| They're going to be honoring existing contracts, but any new contracts, they'll continue to assess them as they come in. | 00:32:29 | |
| Nationwide there was over what they say, 200,000 federal position employees that were terminated. | 00:32:38 | |
| 1000 with NRCS and then they go into the Forest Service and the. | 00:32:47 | |
| Department of Interior with with some more. | 00:32:52 | |
| I I suspect. | 00:32:59 | |
| That this and this is just strictly me. | 00:33:02 | |
| Guessing here. | 00:33:05 | |
| This is an initial knee jerk reaction. We're doing this. | 00:33:08 | |
| But then as these positions fall away. | 00:33:13 | |
| Somebody will come in, start reevaluating like the engineers we rely heavily on those engineers with some of our projects, They're | 00:33:16 | |
| needed, needed positions. | 00:33:21 | |
| But they got cut because they were just recently filled. Had they been there past a certain timeline, they'd still be there. | 00:33:26 | |
| So I suspect going down the road that some of these positions are going to be refilled back. | 00:33:33 | |
| But I don't know when. | 00:33:38 | |
| OK. Any other questions from committee? Matt, have you heard anything? | 00:33:43 | |
| Or get any feelings from our new egg secretary. | 00:33:47 | |
| Is she gonna be? | 00:33:51 | |
| Giving you any indication. | 00:33:52 | |
| On conservation or like these NRCS employees? | 00:33:54 | |
| Is she going to do some reconsiderations, you think, or? | 00:33:58 | |
| I haven't given any indications at all. | 00:34:01 | |
| Umm, if it's any reconsideration at all. And the first round of firings. | 00:34:03 | |
| FSA had a handful of people in the state that were subject. | 00:34:10 | |
| Once approached by the administration, they rescinded that and those people were brought back the next day. | 00:34:15 | |
| FSA. Now this is just FSA, not NRCS. At the national level we have become very divided. | 00:34:22 | |
| FSA has received. | 00:34:28 | |
| Confirmation from administration that we will be temporarily exempt from future firings because we're deemed essential for the | 00:34:31 | |
| administration's. | 00:34:35 | |
| Mission of executing farm programs. | 00:34:39 | |
| The current ones that we have and then some that are subject coming down the road. | 00:34:43 | |
| I I kind of on the same thought as John in regards to NRCS. I think they will. | 00:34:49 | |
| Be more subject to the cuts, but again, due to evaluation down the road they will bring back people. | 00:34:55 | |
| That are in positions that are needed. | 00:35:01 | |
| Because, again, they're just making broad, sweeping cuts right now. | 00:35:04 | |
| And then they'll see what? | 00:35:08 | |
| Comes out of it and they'll come back and fill in what should not have been released. | 00:35:10 | |
| I think their primary. | 00:35:16 | |
| Concern right now with NRCS is the ARPA funding that got put towards the DEA stuff. | 00:35:18 | |
| And making sure that that does not go through. | 00:35:26 | |
| And then they'll reevaluate. | 00:35:29 | |
| Like you said, the funds that are going towards true conservation and staff that was not hired. | 00:35:31 | |
| For the DEA stuff. | 00:35:39 | |
| Ultimately in positions that are needed for the other administration. | 00:35:42 | |
| Theoretically should be brought back. So again, that's all speculation on my part. | 00:35:46 | |
| Don't really know there is. | 00:35:51 | |
| From our standpoint, you guys have just as much information as they give us other than we actually get the e-mail in our inbox | 00:35:53 | |
| that says responder leave. | 00:35:58 | |
| So. | 00:36:03 | |
| That's probably the biggest frustration right now. There is no guidance or. | 00:36:05 | |
| Direction on any of it? | 00:36:09 | |
| Well, the state in communication with John, I mean there may we only meet once a month and we just want to be upfront, honest with | 00:36:11 | |
| all the people we deal with the best, the best we can. I think that's I think what this committee would like. You know, we want to | 00:36:15 | |
| keep the flow of communication going. If you don't have an engineer, you got to tell me we don't have one now. I mean, just be | 00:36:19 | |
| honest. | 00:36:23 | |
| You know, let's just go through this, but I think we need to be honest and communicate. | 00:36:29 | |
| Because there's going to be some. | 00:36:32 | |
| Yeah, well, it's going to be train times and I will pass that along to Corey. Like I said, he wasn't in a hole today bar. | 00:36:34 | |
| The people we deal with, our understanding, it's not us, it's, you know, we're. | 00:36:41 | |
| Part of this, but we want to communicate. | 00:36:45 | |
| Yeah. Well, I know from the producers that we have coming in. | 00:36:48 | |
| All of them are. | 00:36:53 | |
| Very supportive of the work that we do and very appreciative that we have the doors open and. | 00:36:55 | |
| Do the work that we do for them with them. | 00:37:00 | |
| Because of them so. | 00:37:03 | |
| Again. | 00:37:05 | |
| It's going to be trying time going forward. Nobody knows for how long or for what. | 00:37:07 | |
| But we will keep you guys up to speed of the best we can of what's going on. So if we need to help make political arguments and | 00:37:11 | |
| we're the political part of the county government. | 00:37:16 | |
| And it is our job to argue for those things we need, you know what I mean? Advocate for, like you said, engineer. | 00:37:22 | |
| We would be the one that said, hey guys, we need engineers otherwise we cannot deliver the services. I mean, I so I would be. | 00:37:30 | |
| And I suspect we'll learn that at the water conference next week. But Oh yeah, and everyone's gonna be thinking the same thing we | 00:37:36 | |
| are, I can guarantee it. Was constant land, water or all OK? | 00:37:40 | |
| So. | 00:37:46 | |
| Any other questions for me? | 00:37:48 | |
| OK. | 00:37:52 | |
| Thank you. | 00:37:53 | |
| OK. | 00:37:56 | |
| Video. | 00:37:58 | |
| OK. | 00:38:06 | |
| Great. | 00:38:07 | |
| Hello, my name is Matt Krueger. I'm the executive director of Wisconsin Land and Water. This video is part of an informative | 00:38:14 | |
| series for new Land Conservation Committee for LCC members. A refresher for committee members that continue to serve. | 00:38:21 | |
| And will hopefully be beneficial for conservation staff as well. | 00:38:27 | |
| With me today are three seasoned county conservationists who will share their experiences with us as they answer a few questions | 00:38:31 | |
| that I will ask them. | 00:38:34 | |
| Before we begin, I'd like to invite our county cons to please introduce themselves. | 00:38:38 | |
| Hi, I'm Carolyn Scholl. I've been with Vilas County for 18 years. | 00:38:43 | |
| 13 of those years I've served as the. | 00:38:48 | |
| County conservationist and department head. | 00:38:51 | |
| Hello, I'm Paul Daigle. | 00:38:54 | |
| I'm with Marathon County. I've been the land and water program director for. | 00:38:56 | |
| About 10 years. | 00:39:00 | |
| And I've been in the conservation. | 00:39:01 | |
| Field my entire 35 year career. | 00:39:03 | |
| My name is Dan Masterpool. I'm approaching the end of my career. | 00:39:07 | |
| And have had the pleasure to serve as the County Conservationist in Chippewa County for around 37 years. | 00:39:12 | |
| Thank you all for being willing to share your experiences and perspectives with us today. | 00:39:18 | |
| So the first question I'd like to ask you all is what is the single most important piece of advice that you can provide to a new | 00:39:22 | |
| Land conservation Committee or LCC member? | 00:39:27 | |
| Listen to your county conservation staff. | 00:39:32 | |
| And if you don't understand something, be sure to ask questions. | 00:39:35 | |
| Either at the meetings or make an appointment to stop by their office. | 00:39:40 | |
| They're your county's experts in all things conservation. | 00:39:46 | |
| The staff not only have educational backgrounds that coincide with conservation and natural resource management. | 00:39:50 | |
| But they likely have many years of hands on experience and institutional knowledge in their positions. | 00:39:57 | |
| So heed their advice when making your policy decisions. | 00:40:03 | |
| I encourage you to sit down. | 00:40:08 | |
| Get to know your concert pony conservationist. | 00:40:10 | |
| Be curious. | 00:40:13 | |
| Find out their passion what what they want to accomplish. | 00:40:14 | |
| But also find out a way to share your passion. | 00:40:18 | |
| And what you, as a supervisor want to accomplish while you were on the committee and in a position to enact positive change. | 00:40:21 | |
| Schedule time to meet with them on a quarterly basis to check the pace. | 00:40:28 | |
| Find out what's working well. | 00:40:33 | |
| What needs improvement? | 00:40:35 | |
| And how you can help. | 00:40:36 | |
| Each committee member has an important responsibility as assigned. | 00:40:39 | |
| To local effect, local elective officials by Wisconsin Stats, chapter 92. | 00:40:43 | |
| The work you do on the Land Conservation Committee will have a strong bearing. | 00:40:49 | |
| On the local economy and on the quality of the environment where you live now. | 00:40:54 | |
| And it will extend well into the future. | 00:40:58 | |
| In Wisconsin we have a great deal of diversity based upon our local geology and physical setting. | 00:41:01 | |
| Land conservation committees were created to assure that local conservation efforts. | 00:41:08 | |
| Are designed and implemented to meet local needs. | 00:41:13 | |
| In Wisconsin, we use the land and water to produce food, fuel and fiber. | 00:41:18 | |
| Your job, as assigned by the legislature, is to assure the local policies. | 00:41:24 | |
| Programs and rules are in place to provide for sustainable production. | 00:41:29 | |
| And a high quality environment. | 00:41:34 | |
| The local issues of concern and the associated policy and programs. | 00:41:37 | |
| That you use. | 00:41:41 | |
| Are outlined in your county land and water resource management plan. | 00:41:43 | |
| The plan provides A framework and activity schedule. | 00:41:47 | |
| For the county's efforts. | 00:41:51 | |
| And is routinely reviewed and updated every 5 to 10 years. | 00:41:52 | |
| The committee is responsibility is for addressing the policy issues. | 00:41:58 | |
| And preparing budget recommendations. | 00:42:02 | |
| They have a policy rule. | 00:42:05 | |
| The department staff's role. | 00:42:07 | |
| Is for day-to-day operations. They're responsible. | 00:42:09 | |
| For the operations of the department. | 00:42:14 | |
| Working together, it's possible to identify and resolve local issues. | 00:42:18 | |
| To make a difference that will be of direct value to your local community. | 00:42:22 | |
| Thank you for those answers. | 00:42:28 | |
| Moving on to our second question. | 00:42:29 | |
| What is the best way for LCC members to constructively get engaged in the work of the Land Conservation Department? | 00:42:31 | |
| First of all, get engaged. | 00:42:38 | |
| And stay engaged. | 00:42:40 | |
| Nothing motivates staff like having engaged supervisors. | 00:42:42 | |
| They feel support. | 00:42:45 | |
| And that their work matters. | 00:42:47 | |
| Even if you don't agree on every topic. | 00:42:49 | |
| What you want? | 00:42:52 | |
| Let them know you are there for them. | 00:42:53 | |
| Also learn the high points of the long range strategies in the department. | 00:42:56 | |
| And in the county for conservation. | 00:43:00 | |
| Understand the broad initiatives and work. | 00:43:03 | |
| To set and attain those goals. | 00:43:06 | |
| Try not to get involved in the day-to-day operations of your office. | 00:43:09 | |
| We have professional staff that are paid to run an efficient office, effective department. | 00:43:13 | |
| Let them do their jobs. | 00:43:19 | |
| To be constructively engaged in the work of the department, a committee member needs to 1st come up to speed. | 00:43:22 | |
| Generally by way of committee orientation. | 00:43:29 | |
| To learn what the local natural resource management issues are. | 00:43:32 | |
| As defined in your county land and water plan. | 00:43:36 | |
| And how your county is allocating its available resources. | 00:43:38 | |
| To address those issues. | 00:43:42 | |
| The plan is largely operational and defines the services. | 00:43:45 | |
| That are being provided and the work that is being done. | 00:43:49 | |
| As the committee and staff approached the issues. | 00:43:53 | |
| Local resources are always going to be limiting. | 00:43:57 | |
| Staff hours. Skill sets. | 00:44:00 | |
| Time. Umm. | 00:44:03 | |
| Money and good energy. | 00:44:04 | |
| Are what you have to work with. | 00:44:06 | |
| It's up to the staff to conduct the day-to-day operations and to determine how to best. | 00:44:09 | |
| Managing manage the resources and get the job done. | 00:44:14 | |
| Ideally, the committee should be fully engaged. | 00:44:18 | |
| And understand what the department is doing and what services it's providing. | 00:44:22 | |
| It should try to help to advance the scheduled objectives. | 00:44:27 | |
| By way of the committee's budget. | 00:44:33 | |
| And track progress towards achieving scheduled objectives, planned activities. | 00:44:35 | |
| And product deliverables. | 00:44:42 | |
| The routine staff reports. | 00:44:44 | |
| In short, committee members can best be engaged by being informed and being supportive. | 00:44:46 | |
| And then through their engagement to provide a level of public oversight and accountability. | 00:44:52 | |
| By way of constructive feedback. | 00:44:58 | |
| Or suggestions for improvement? | 00:45:00 | |
| I would say expand your network as much as possible. | 00:45:03 | |
| All counties are essentially working towards similar conservation goals. | 00:45:06 | |
| But many times we go about meeting them very differently. | 00:45:10 | |
| By talking to and networking with other people in other counties. | 00:45:14 | |
| You can gain really valuable insight. | 00:45:19 | |
| As to the different conservation topics. | 00:45:21 | |
| Networking is best accomplished by. | 00:45:26 | |
| Participating in regional land and water association meetings. | 00:45:29 | |
| Or volunteering to serve in your Resource Conservation and Development Council. | 00:45:33 | |
| Otherwise known as RC and DS. | 00:45:39 | |
| And last but not least, be sure to attend the annual Wisconsin Land and Water Conference. | 00:45:41 | |
| Because the networking possibilities are endless. | 00:45:47 | |
| Thank you for those answers. | 00:45:52 | |
| And for our final question. | 00:45:54 | |
| What is the best way for an LCC member to develop a functional working relationship with the Land Conservation Department staff? | 00:45:55 | |
| A good functional working relationship between an LCC member and the LCD staff. | 00:46:04 | |
| Should be built upon a foundation of mutual respect. | 00:46:09 | |
| Trust umm. | 00:46:13 | |
| And a solid understanding of the roles and responsibilities of each party. | 00:46:14 | |
| The functional relationship should be used to meet shared public. | 00:46:19 | |
| Goals and objectives. | 00:46:23 | |
| And that of addressing the policy needs of the committee. | 00:46:25 | |
| And the operational needs of the department. | 00:46:29 | |
| In my opinion, this relationship can best be based. | 00:46:32 | |
| Upon a formal professional approach using kind of a. | 00:46:36 | |
| Business based protocol. | 00:46:41 | |
| That's applied to pursue a common set of public objectives. | 00:46:44 | |
| Versus trying to form a personal friendship based relationship. | 00:46:49 | |
| Verbal and written communication should be professional. | 00:46:54 | |
| Cordial and based upon the business needs at hand. | 00:46:58 | |
| They should be short. | 00:47:02 | |
| Clear, uh. | 00:47:03 | |
| Direct and concise. | 00:47:04 | |
| At times, you may experience disagreements with county staff about an issue. | 00:47:07 | |
| Or issues. | 00:47:12 | |
| When this happens, listen to both sides of the issue and respect others points of views. | 00:47:13 | |
| If you find that you do have fundamental differences of opinion about something. | 00:47:20 | |
| Learn how to work together on issues that you can. | 00:47:25 | |
| And agree to respectfully disagree in a friendly way on those other matters. | 00:47:29 | |
| I would encourage you to listen, to understand. | 00:47:35 | |
| Not necessarily reply. | 00:47:38 | |
| Understand the needs of your staff. | 00:47:41 | |
| And how you can help to remove barriers to being efficient and effective. | 00:47:43 | |
| Don't feel like you have to be buddies with staff. | 00:47:48 | |
| But also make sure they know you care. | 00:47:51 | |
| That you want to understand. | 00:47:54 | |
| That you realize they're in conservation because of the passion you have. | 00:47:56 | |
| To conserve the natural resources, not for the money. | 00:48:01 | |
| I want to thank each of you for your participation and thoughtful responses today. | 00:48:05 | |
| For sharing your wisdom with others, and for most of all for your long standing commitment to conservation. | 00:48:08 | |
| I hope that viewers will have learned as much from our brief discussion today as I have. | 00:48:14 | |
| And this concludes the advice for new LCCS from Season County Conservationist Video. | 00:48:18 | |
| Thank you for watching and for the work that you all do is conservation. | 00:48:23 | |
| These videos are several years old. | 00:48:38 | |
| Umm, Carol and Paul are now retired. Dan's the only one still working, and he's not too far away. | 00:48:42 | |
| So. | 00:48:50 | |
| Move on to Chapter 92. | 00:49:00 | |
| 14 Staffing allocation for counties. | 00:49:04 | |
| OK. | 00:49:09 | |
| This this refers to that handout that you sent Andrew. | 00:49:11 | |
| How kind of the this one and the next one, the resource management staffing grant kind of go together. So I'm going to try to | 00:49:15 | |
| explain the staffing grant. | 00:49:19 | |
| I sent a copy to you in the mail. | 00:49:25 | |
| When I get that. | 00:49:29 | |
| There's two parts to it, the actual application and a worksheet that I put together. | 00:49:30 | |
| The worksheet. | 00:49:35 | |
| Goes starts out with each staff member. | 00:49:37 | |
| What their salaries and their benefits are. | 00:49:41 | |
| And chapter 92 states that. | 00:49:45 | |
| The state will attempt. | 00:49:48 | |
| To fund. | 00:49:51 | |
| The first staff 100%. | 00:49:53 | |
| The second one at 75. | 00:49:55 | |
| The third at 50% and all the rest of the staff at 50%. | 00:49:57 | |
| That's what they state. | 00:50:03 | |
| To get that. | 00:50:05 | |
| The state is not getting enough money. | 00:50:07 | |
| Currently in 25. | 00:50:12 | |
| We got 11,240 eleven $1,214,000 for staffing in that. | 00:50:14 | |
| And they should be a little over 15,000,000 to be able to fill them first three positions. | 00:50:21 | |
| So in 2025. | 00:50:27 | |
| We receive a staffing grant of $157,000. | 00:50:30 | |
| If they funded the first three positions the way Chapter 92 states. | 00:50:35 | |
| We were getting beginning somewhere around $230,000. | 00:50:40 | |
| If they funded all the positions. | 00:50:45 | |
| It would be like $325,000 is what we would be getting. | 00:50:48 | |
| Wisconsin Land and Water has been advocating for them that funding. | 00:50:54 | |
| For as long as I can remember. | 00:50:59 | |
| Excuse me? | 00:51:02 | |
| And it changes every year. | 00:51:03 | |
| From in 2023 we got 176,000. | 00:51:06 | |
| And 24 it dropped down to 151,000. | 00:51:11 | |
| The main reason for that change is. | 00:51:15 | |
| I dropped my health insurance. I'm on Tricare through the military. | 00:51:18 | |
| And one of my other. | 00:51:22 | |
| Past employees went from family insurance to a single insurance. | 00:51:24 | |
| So. | 00:51:29 | |
| Next year when I when I fill out my application I am. | 00:51:31 | |
| Using. | 00:51:36 | |
| Last year's salaries and benefits. | 00:51:37 | |
| Filling it out today. | 00:51:41 | |
| For funding. | 00:51:43 | |
| For 2026. | 00:51:44 | |
| So that's kind of how this works. | 00:51:47 | |
| So on 26. | 00:51:49 | |
| This should go up a little bit. | 00:51:52 | |
| But in 27. | 00:51:55 | |
| It's going to change. | 00:51:57 | |
| Because we have a new staff member, had one leave and we had a new staff member. | 00:51:58 | |
| And you're going to have my replacement. | 00:52:02 | |
| So. | 00:52:04 | |
| Salary and insurance is going to play. | 00:52:05 | |
| Difference in it, so it changes every year. | 00:52:09 | |
| Would it be OK if I stop for a moment and talk politics? OK the WCA? | 00:52:12 | |
| We we lobby for different things over the counties on the top five. | 00:52:17 | |
| Five things is this conservation? That's all. It's like the top of our lobbying list of what we're doing. So I lobbied. | 00:52:21 | |
| About. | 00:52:28 | |
| I was about 3 weeks ago for the county. I had Johnson give me preparation. What does this mean? | 00:52:30 | |
| In our county, what he was saying for 25, the state will reimburse us 157,000 and we kind of note about this over the years. | 00:52:36 | |
| OK. But they're supposed to reimburse us 321,000. That's what they're supposed to do according to the statute? | 00:52:44 | |
| So what that means is that our county board is covering the difference. | 00:52:50 | |
| By a lot. | 00:52:55 | |
| And I just wanted you to be aware of that, that our county board is paying like the difference between 1:57 and 3:21. | 00:52:56 | |
| In the state is supposed to be paying these positions. | 00:53:03 | |
| And so I just want to make sure you were aware that. So our position is the WCA is, hey, you guys need to fund what the statute | 00:53:07 | |
| says you're supposed to fund. That is our position so that the county board would put less of our. | 00:53:14 | |
| You know our local tax levy in it and it would come from the state. | 00:53:21 | |
| And and what that also kind of and I also included the WCA lobby sheets and that's what he referred to. | 00:53:27 | |
| That right now it's only like 11 for the whole state. It's like $11 million. | 00:53:34 | |
| They're putting in and I think it's closer to 20 is what, almost twice as much, right, What they really want. | 00:53:39 | |
| Yeah, that's what they that's what we're asking for. So that just so you kind of so if you hear WCA and lobbying and there's this | 00:53:45 | |
| is one of our top issues. This is what what we're talking about. | 00:53:50 | |
| And when you're talking, you know, I was talking to, so I talked to Mark, we have. | 00:53:56 | |
| I think there was 6 or 7 legislatures and when I go to Madison with Dave Proline and with our, with our team with Kim and then the | 00:54:01 | |
| legislators all line up and then we say like, like, like this year we want more court funding, you know, because like the courts | 00:54:07 | |
| don't, we're not funded all the way to the state like we're supposed to. Then I would present, I presented this argument then to | 00:54:12 | |
| these guys just so you just so you kind of know about our county and said, hey. | 00:54:18 | |
| We really need you to step up and start following the statute. So I just want you to I thought you'd like to be aware that's like | 00:54:24 | |
| this is particularly what. | 00:54:28 | |
| What we're doing and I had, John had prepared this for me, so I knew to the dollar what I was asking for. It was pretty good. So | 00:54:32 | |
| thank you, John for doing that. | 00:54:36 | |
| But just so you kind of know that the county board is covering that. And then I know John in another comment. | 00:54:40 | |
| With upcoming decisions. | 00:54:46 | |
| With people that want to get funds from us and you said our budget outside of Labor is really only like. | 00:54:49 | |
| $30,000 of discretion or it's really small, isn't it? Correct. That's how small her budget is. It's like third grade. | 00:54:54 | |
| It's that small. | 00:55:02 | |
| Yeah, so pay for supplies, fuel, maintenance. | 00:55:03 | |
| Registrations to conferences, yeah, that it's. | 00:55:08 | |
| So if anyone asks us for money beyond. | 00:55:12 | |
| What we have, we really have to go to the county board. We don't have like, umm. | 00:55:16 | |
| A bunch of extra money around. I just wanted you to be aware that we would not have that ability. | 00:55:22 | |
| After the meeting, after it was very discouraging After, after the meeting. | 00:55:28 | |
| Mark Bourne came up to me and. | 00:55:33 | |
| Said Andrew. You gave a great arguments. | 00:55:35 | |
| Of course he's on that. You know, he's the the Co chairman of the Finance Committee and he said it would. | 00:55:37 | |
| Not to your surprises, but unlikely that we would get funded. | 00:55:43 | |
| Letter of state statute. Just a guide. | 00:55:48 | |
| That is a. | 00:55:50 | |
| You got it man. | 00:55:53 | |
| OK, you got what we're thinking. Yeah, I. | 00:55:56 | |
| The language says shall attempt, say, will. | 00:55:59 | |
| And says shall attend. Are they getting by? And I've looked back. | 00:56:03 | |
| In history. | 00:56:07 | |
| From previous versions of it, and it's said that for quite a while. | 00:56:09 | |
| So they said, they did say at the end of the. | 00:56:14 | |
| When I went, my lobbying turned. They did say they would try to give more for the courts. | 00:56:18 | |
| But you know, you hear all this bickering in in. | 00:56:23 | |
| You know about money and they're talking, you know? | 00:56:26 | |
| Hundreds of millions of dollars and for the whole state of Wisconsin we only need like 8,000,000 more or something. It's not like | 00:56:29 | |
| a huge amount for every conservation department in this state. | 00:56:33 | |
| It's not a big amount of money in the context of our state budget. You know, I know this is a reach, but you know what the turmoil | 00:56:38 | |
| go on in NRCS. | 00:56:41 | |
| There could be a void there that. | 00:56:46 | |
| Was there previously, it may not be there in the future. | 00:56:48 | |
| There may be a slight possibility that. | 00:56:51 | |
| The feds would rather give the money to the state for conservation. | 00:56:54 | |
| I mean, I just want them to be ready if that does. | 00:56:58 | |
| Happen. | 00:57:01 | |
| Yeah, we just keep the communication lines open in. | 00:57:05 | |
| But the point I wanted to bring this up to date, have John explained this because he had the worksheet and we're going to fill it | 00:57:10 | |
| out, but I wanted to explain it to you so you understood. So when someone comes here and says I want money from you. | 00:57:15 | |
| So you realize that the county board is covering us right now? | 00:57:22 | |
| We're not. We don't have like extra money or hanging around here. | 00:57:26 | |
| John runs a really I know, but you need to but I just want the county this committee to realize that it's not new recently, but it | 00:57:29 | |
| but I wanted you to know how short it was. | 00:57:34 | |
| How short it was and how small our budget really is. I just wanted you to be aware I wasn't. I've been on the committee for | 00:57:39 | |
| several years. I didn't realize it was that much. | 00:57:43 | |
| So that that that's, that's what I wanted to communicate with you guys. So. | 00:57:48 | |
| All right. Thank you, John. Yeah. The only other thing I have is, like I said, for funding for 2025. | 00:57:53 | |
| Currently statewide it's 11.2 million. | 00:57:59 | |
| In the governor's proposed budget. | 00:58:02 | |
| It's 15.1 million and 26 and 15.6 million and 27. | 00:58:05 | |
| But. | 00:58:11 | |
| That was very similar to last year and it got cut out, so we'll see what happens. | 00:58:11 | |
| OK. | 00:58:18 | |
| So move on to the we'll need a motion for the next one to approve the Soil and Water Resource Management grant applications. So. | 00:58:20 | |
| You want to tell us then what you did here and. | 00:58:27 | |
| OK, Andrew has the grant application. Like I said I fill out the worksheet that pre populates part of the application. | 00:58:31 | |
| And then the other part, I got to go in and I got to look at total county expenditures. | 00:58:38 | |
| And. | 00:58:44 | |
| Tony. | 00:58:45 | |
| Revenues that come in. | 00:58:49 | |
| And then the very last page. | 00:58:52 | |
| Yeah yes we have 6 full time employees, so 6FT ES. | 00:58:55 | |
| And then I calculate. | 00:59:00 | |
| How much FTE is actually paid through this grant that we're applying for, and I can't remember offhand. It's 1.4 something's on | 00:59:02 | |
| the very last page. | 00:59:08 | |
| 1.44. | 00:59:14 | |
| Debt cap in total of 6 Yeah 4.6 for the county. | 00:59:16 | |
| Yeah. And then the annual work plan is also part of that application. We have to fill that out every year and I included that in | 00:59:20 | |
| your packet. | 00:59:25 | |
| That kind of shows our priorities and our goals that we're going to be doing in different areas. | 00:59:29 | |
| For 2025. | 00:59:35 | |
| OK. Any questions on this application? | 00:59:38 | |
| Because we need to vote on it. | 00:59:42 | |
| OK, I need a motion to approve. | 00:59:44 | |
| The Soil and water resource management grant application in any work plan. | 00:59:47 | |
| Also move. | 00:59:51 | |
| OK, John. | 00:59:52 | |
| John, first, we need a second. OK, Dale, second. | 00:59:53 | |
| Any further discussion on the? | 00:59:57 | |
| Application. | 00:59:59 | |
| Hearing none, those favor say aye aye and those opposed. | 01:00:01 | |
| OK, passes and I'll sign this then and we'll get that going. Then we've got one other thing. Go ahead and the cancellation notice. | 01:00:05 | |
| John, this next one, Yeah, this individual last name is Conrad. | 01:00:12 | |
| They got out of the farmland preservation program. | 01:00:17 | |
| And now want to get back into it. So we've checked things over and they meet the requirements for it. | 01:00:20 | |
| So this is a cancellation of their notice of non compliance. | 01:00:28 | |
| So I need board approval to. | 01:00:33 | |
| To be approval to send that into the state, do we need a motion to? | 01:00:35 | |
| Issue a cancellation notice of non compliance to farmland preservation program. So reinstate this person right state them. | 01:00:39 | |
| I'll make a motion. OK. Ken makes a motion. We need a second. | 01:00:47 | |
| I'll second, OK. | 01:00:50 | |
| Then second. | 01:00:52 | |
| Any discussion on this? | 01:00:53 | |
| Hearing none, those in favor signify by saying aye. | 01:00:56 | |
| Aye, unanimously passed. | 01:01:00 | |
| OK. We have update on the Rock River Flood group occasionally there's communications to John and. | 01:01:06 | |
| Yeah, what we've been doing is. | 01:01:13 | |
| They came here a few months ago asking for money and you guys put it off until. | 01:01:17 | |
| May I think it is up for the agenda to make a final decision. | 01:01:21 | |
| So I've been talking to other organizations. | 01:01:25 | |
| NRCS is one of them. | 01:01:29 | |
| To try to find out. | 01:01:31 | |
| Other than giving them money. | 01:01:34 | |
| To their initial ask was for engineering and lawyer fees. | 01:01:37 | |
| Is there something else our department can do on a larger watershed scale that will have an effect? | 01:01:42 | |
| On on their concerns down there. | 01:01:50 | |
| In talking with NRCS. | 01:01:54 | |
| They have programs. | 01:01:57 | |
| That are available. | 01:01:59 | |
| After the fact. | 01:02:01 | |
| You get a flood. It has destruction on fields, buildings, whatever. They have programs to help cost share some of the repairs for | 01:02:03 | |
| that. | 01:02:07 | |
| I talked to. | 01:02:13 | |
| Dat cap Department of AG and he's going to be. | 01:02:14 | |
| Checking with a couple other state DNR water. | 01:02:18 | |
| People. Umm. | 01:02:22 | |
| And hopefully we'll be meeting here in the next few weeks. | 01:02:23 | |
| To find out on their side, is there something on the larger water scale that we can do? | 01:02:28 | |
| I know. | 01:02:33 | |
| There are two. | 01:02:36 | |
| Interns with UW Madison that will be helping this group. | 01:02:37 | |
| And they'll be doing more like on on hydrology studies in the watershed, looking at things like that. | 01:02:42 | |
| So I've been out talking to other people trying to figure out. | 01:02:49 | |
| What is there that? | 01:02:52 | |
| Our department and things that we do that we can actually help them with. | 01:02:54 | |
| So I'm looking at that. | 01:02:58 | |
| We have another meeting set for April 9th. | 01:03:00 | |
| To kind of bring everybody up to speed and to introduce the two interns from UW Madison. | 01:03:05 | |
| Andrew called me the other day. He had a meeting with the Lake Sissippi District. | 01:03:12 | |
| And there are some things said there. So I did call Shane back and talk to him. | 01:03:18 | |
| In fact, the. | 01:03:23 | |
| Engineer Rob Montgomery for that group that gave you presentation a couple months ago. | 01:03:25 | |
| He's coming here. | 01:03:31 | |
| Wednesday this week and he and I are going to go out. | 01:03:32 | |
| Every lake has a. | 01:03:37 | |
| Elevation they play within. | 01:03:39 | |
| And historically, Lake Ms. would do a drawdown to that low level. | 01:03:41 | |
| In late February, March. | 01:03:48 | |
| But this year, because of the conversations with the farmer group, they started doing it the first part of December. | 01:03:51 | |
| They've had a lot of major ice. He's. | 01:03:59 | |
| On the West side. | 01:04:03 | |
| That has. | 01:04:05 | |
| Pushed all their. | 01:04:06 | |
| RIP rap. | 01:04:08 | |
| Shoreline protection. | 01:04:09 | |
| Up in the lawns. | 01:04:10 | |
| That. | 01:04:12 | |
| Typically would not have happened if they hadn't done the drawdown soon. | 01:04:13 | |
| That soon, So Rob's coming out on Wednesday and he and I are going to go out and take a look at that to see. | 01:04:17 | |
| Exactly what the extent of it really is. | 01:04:23 | |
| So that we can go back to that group and say OK. | 01:04:26 | |
| We, we started doing this because that's what you requested. Well. | 01:04:29 | |
| Now these are the effects that's taking place on on all these houses. | 01:04:34 | |
| Around the lake. | 01:04:38 | |
| Umm, this is not. | 01:04:39 | |
| Going to be an easy fix by any means. I think there's a lot more involved here than just the control of dams. | 01:04:43 | |
| And unfortunately. | 01:04:51 | |
| The individuals that started this group. | 01:04:53 | |
| Don't really want to look at anything other than the dams. | 01:04:57 | |
| So I get a question is I'm kind of new to this because this just looks like it's going to be a mess, yeah, or is a mess and it's | 01:05:01 | |
| going to be a bigger mess. | 01:05:04 | |
| So the. | 01:05:09 | |
| The people that. | 01:05:10 | |
| Belong to the Rock River flood group that you know the the people that were here. | 01:05:13 | |
| What land is flooding? Is that actually in the floodplain of the Rock River? Is it over and above the floodplain of the Rock | 01:05:18 | |
| River? | 01:05:21 | |
| It's both. | 01:05:25 | |
| It's both. | 01:05:26 | |
| The issue isn't the flooding. The flooding has always occurred. | 01:05:28 | |
| The issue is the duration of the flooding. | 01:05:34 | |
| Instead of flooding for two weeks. | 01:05:37 | |
| It might be flooded for 2 1/2 three months. | 01:05:39 | |
| I've seen the Rock River on Hwy. 60 by Houston's Ford. | 01:05:42 | |
| Out of its banks almost all summer long at times. | 01:05:47 | |
| So it's the duration of the flooding that's occurring. | 01:05:51 | |
| When we get normal rainfalls. | 01:05:55 | |
| Majority that will infiltrate into the ground. | 01:05:58 | |
| But when you get them. | 01:06:01 | |
| Intense rains where you get 2 inches in an hour or five inches. | 01:06:02 | |
| In half a day. | 01:06:08 | |
| Majority that water is going to run off. | 01:06:10 | |
| And it's not going to infiltrate in, it just can't. | 01:06:13 | |
| And when you continue to get that rain after rain after rain, that ground is saturated, it's not going anywhere but running off. | 01:06:16 | |
| Every time you put up a House of pole barn, a parking lot. | 01:06:24 | |
| You got water running off versus infiltrating. | 01:06:30 | |
| And there is a ton of tile lines that have gone in. | 01:06:34 | |
| That. | 01:06:39 | |
| Extends the duration of that water flow. | 01:06:40 | |
| Because the water is high at tile lines doing nothing, but as that water line goes down, now it's draining all this field that was | 01:06:45 | |
| totally saturated. | 01:06:49 | |
| So that's extending it. | 01:06:54 | |
| So there's a lot of things going into this. It's not one thing. | 01:06:56 | |
| OK, yeah, I just. | 01:07:02 | |
| Because it just seems to me it's just like the flooding. Well, you know, we can't control A5 inch rain in two hours, no. | 01:07:04 | |
| I mean, I can see other watersheds and I you normally have flood and. | 01:07:10 | |
| Cropland gets flooded out and everything gets flooded. It'll stay for two or three weeks, I mean. | 01:07:14 | |
| 5 inches of rain and 1/2 hour it's 5 inches of rain. You know it's. | 01:07:18 | |
| So I was just kind of curious, that's all. | 01:07:23 | |
| There's a little confusion on my partner exactly what the issue is. So thank you for do they ever mention, you know, do they have | 01:07:25 | |
| crop insurance and. | 01:07:30 | |
| If they have prevent plant and I know if you do that what 3 out of five then you're ineligible anymore, you can't apply anymore. | 01:07:35 | |
| So as anybody said that. | 01:07:40 | |
| That was an issue for any farmers. I have not heard that conversation at all. | 01:07:44 | |
| I know they continually talk about. | 01:07:50 | |
| Mature trees that are dying because of the flooding. | 01:07:52 | |
| In their in their lower lands. | 01:07:56 | |
| I've gotten phone calls from a guy that bought land for deer hunting and he can't hunt it because it's always in water. | 01:08:00 | |
| You know it's better off for duck hunt and deer, Hun. | 01:08:06 | |
| But you know. | 01:08:09 | |
| When you buy land that are in those areas. | 01:08:10 | |
| You got to understand that risk. I guess that's where it's coming from my question. I mean it, you know. | 01:08:14 | |
| Yeah, and. | 01:08:20 | |
| I've been here for 30 years. The the. | 01:08:22 | |
| The other main farmer that's and I'm not sure he's really a farmer, He's a, he owns land there. | 01:08:25 | |
| That side Rd. | 01:08:31 | |
| Has had farm gates on it ever since I've been here to. When the water gets high the road is closed off. | 01:08:33 | |
| You know, and he lives on that road. | 01:08:40 | |
| So he. | 01:08:42 | |
| Bought a house knowing that initially. | 01:08:43 | |
| In the first place. | 01:08:45 | |
| But I am looking, I am having conversations, I am looking at other things that that our department can do that. | 01:08:48 | |
| Will help mitigate it, but it's not going to fix it just like that. | 01:08:56 | |
| No, you mentioned the ice and Beaver Dam is a dangerous ice conditions. Now it'll go from a foot in one area to zero and others 10 | 01:09:02 | |
| vehicles, ATVs and. | 01:09:07 | |
| Somerville's grind through the ice this year. | 01:09:13 | |
| I'm not sure what happened this weekend. So we've seen is the January winds, prevailing winds of South, southwest. | 01:09:15 | |
| The Mill. | 01:09:23 | |
| From Beaver from Fox Lake is still flowing water on. | 01:09:25 | |
| Yeah, and we're seeing a freeze thaw. | 01:09:28 | |
| Half dozen times, January and February. | 01:09:31 | |
| So every time that happens, it jacks up the ice. | 01:09:33 | |
| And then also we're seeing. | 01:09:36 | |
| The open water. | 01:09:38 | |
| It never gets a chance to freeze even it's very, very cold weather. We've had the wind pressure keeps that moving to the north, | 01:09:39 | |
| so. | 01:09:43 | |
| Those north and northeast shores on that lake. | 01:09:46 | |
| Have impacted by that fetch. | 01:09:50 | |
| So it's really a interesting season, let's say. | 01:09:53 | |
| I thought Dave out there at the one property. | 01:09:56 | |
| The North and idle hour. | 01:09:59 | |
| Yeah, yeah. We had a resident call us that had some. | 01:10:01 | |
| Ripper app destroyed and he wants to redo it. | 01:10:06 | |
| And I think Dave worked with him. | 01:10:10 | |
| Years ago on the Beaver Dam watershed, too. | 01:10:12 | |
| OK. | 01:10:18 | |
| Thank you for the update and I have a little more to say about it my report for LSID. | 01:10:20 | |
| All right, discussed possible research on the county's airport farm update. I know there's not much on this, but. | 01:10:27 | |
| No, I'm gonna keep this on as an item on every agenda until we figure out what exactly what's gonna happen. | 01:10:32 | |
| The farmer LED group had a soil health Expo here in town the first part of this month, February. | 01:10:39 | |
| And they always hand out a survey. | 01:10:46 | |
| One of the questions on that survey was. | 01:10:49 | |
| If we were to start a research plot on this farm, what would you be interested in? | 01:10:52 | |
| So I'm waiting for the results to come that back come back from that I should be getting them. | 01:10:57 | |
| Tomorrow we have a. | 01:11:03 | |
| Annual meeting that. | 01:11:06 | |
| One member of the farm of that group and a collaborator, which is Dodge County. | 01:11:08 | |
| Has to go to an annual meeting every year. | 01:11:12 | |
| So, umm. | 01:11:14 | |
| The group that. | 01:11:16 | |
| They have hired. | 01:11:19 | |
| To facilitate all these questionnaires will be. | 01:11:21 | |
| Turning all that stuff over to us tomorrow. | 01:11:24 | |
| Well, yeah, it said. Because they're they're no longer hired with them anymore, but. | 01:11:29 | |
| She said it was going to be on a flash drive, so. | 01:11:33 | |
| OK, Now probably the most important business of the day. | 01:11:40 | |
| Yes, we have a new county. | 01:11:44 | |
| Administrative support specialist for the department. | 01:11:46 | |
| Cheryl Lowery. | 01:11:49 | |
| Started with us a couple weeks ago. | 01:11:51 | |
| She's getting her feet wet. She's learning things that she's never done before and is doing. | 01:11:55 | |
| Doing their job. | 01:12:01 | |
| Welcome, Cheryl. | 01:12:03 | |
| Thank you. | 01:12:04 | |
| Look forward to working with you. | 01:12:06 | |
| Look forward to it too. | 01:12:08 | |
| We'll try to be clear. | 01:12:09 | |
| And don't feel, don't be afraid to instruct us as Becky did and give us instruction as to what we need to do and. | 01:12:12 | |
| Sounds good, all right. | 01:12:19 | |
| Because I know she had me like send my water, my reports to her at a time because she said. | 01:12:21 | |
| You know, like our, you know, like the reports we do for the Lake District. She always wanted me to e-mail on the head. | 01:12:26 | |
| To her so that maybe that's something you want to do. You have a do you have a different e-mail? I suppose it's different right | 01:12:31 | |
| slightly. | 01:12:33 | |
| Maybe get it to us or her E Nos just she Lowry at Dodge County, OK. | 01:12:36 | |
| All right, LO H ry. | 01:12:43 | |
| You want to tell us a little bit about yourself? | 01:12:46 | |
| If you can right, is that OK Committee? Is that OK we ever? | 01:12:48 | |
| OK. | 01:13:04 | |
| Hi, so I actually am from Marcozan. | 01:13:04 | |
| So grew up raised there. | 01:13:09 | |
| Have a lot of office experience. | 01:13:13 | |
| Probably well over. | 01:13:16 | |
| 20 years of office experience. | 01:13:17 | |
| I have knowledge of meetings and how they ran as well I worked. | 01:13:20 | |
| Actually. | 01:13:25 | |
| The deputy city clerk for the city of Beaver Dam for 3 1/2 years. So that's where somebody may have recognized me from, but. | 01:13:26 | |
| Yeah, other than that. | 01:13:34 | |
| Interesting to learn about the land and water conservation and learning some more. I have a little bit of farm experience. My | 01:13:36 | |
| parents were farmers growing up. | 01:13:40 | |
| My husband. | 01:13:44 | |
| Is actually a male caller, so. | 01:13:46 | |
| I have a little knowledge there as well. | 01:13:49 | |
| If I tend to listen to him. | 01:13:51 | |
| You know. | 01:13:53 | |
| But other than that, we have one daughter. | 01:13:54 | |
| So yeah, she's going to college already and. | 01:13:59 | |
| Yeah, very proud of her. She's going in for a radiology. | 01:14:03 | |
| Becky is helping you a little bit far as Becky still comes back and helps a little bit of training and that's really helpful. | 01:14:07 | |
| There's a lot of it'll take us like a couple cycles to go through to. | 01:14:11 | |
| You know when things happen in the details and. | 01:14:16 | |
| There's a lot to it. | 01:14:20 | |
| Yeah, and I'm really looking forward to learning more about the land and water conservations, the different programs and there's | 01:14:21 | |
| busy times and slow times and you got to figure that out. That's I know it's it's just incredibly different all of a sudden, like | 01:14:28 | |
| you don't feel like you have any to do. And then it'll come like there'll be so much do you can't believe it. | 01:14:35 | |
| Just the end portion of the trees though. | 01:14:43 | |
| Well, welcome and. | 01:14:46 | |
| It's a critical position be I mean our department is so small that you, you are the face of the department. You know, we talked | 01:14:48 | |
| earlier about. | 01:14:52 | |
| Doing surveys but. | 01:14:55 | |
| Think it's going to be you're the 1 John John's there too, but you're the one that people see walk in the door. You're the you're | 01:14:57 | |
| the one that helps coordinate the. | 01:15:00 | |
| All the guys on the road and. | 01:15:04 | |
| So very, very critical position from our point of view. So thank you so much for coming. | 01:15:06 | |
| You're welcome. I'm very happy to be here. All right. Any other questions from the committee? | 01:15:11 | |
| All right. Thank you. | 01:15:16 | |
| You're welcome. | 01:15:18 | |
| All right, update on the well testing that's. | 01:15:23 | |
| Up and coming and yeah. | 01:15:26 | |
| The results are in. I don't have the results back. I'm going to pull up something. I did get the final bill on it. | 01:15:29 | |
| And I want to tell you. | 01:15:36 | |
| How we lined up as compared to the original. | 01:15:38 | |
| Agreement. | 01:15:42 | |
| Actually of the five year agreement we came in under. | 01:15:46 | |
| Under what was originally budgeted. | 01:15:49 | |
| The original budget was $174,820 and with the final bill that came in at 164,372. | 01:15:57 | |
| So just over. | 01:16:08 | |
| Just over $10,000. | 01:16:11 | |
| Less than what we originally planned. | 01:16:13 | |
| And next month? | 01:16:17 | |
| The. | 01:16:20 | |
| Wednesday the 19th at 7:00 PM. | 01:16:21 | |
| We'll have a. | 01:16:25 | |
| Presentation Kevin will be here for presentation. | 01:16:27 | |
| To the owners that have been going through this program, you're more than welcome to attend that if you'd like to. | 01:16:30 | |
| At that meeting when that's. | 01:16:37 | |
| Before or after? Then I'll talk to him as far as when he thinks he'll have his. | 01:16:39 | |
| Final summary done to present to you guys so that we can make decisions on what we want to do for in the future. | 01:16:45 | |
| So the timeline. | 01:16:54 | |
| Umm, so this is the this is your 5, right? Your 5. | 01:16:56 | |
| So the timeline to. | 01:17:01 | |
| They'll come and talk to us and then if we decide as a committee we want the program to continue for another. | 01:17:03 | |
| Five years or whatever. | 01:17:09 | |
| Then we would have to bring this. You're thinking a county board like July is that we're thinking maybe or OK, and then we would | 01:17:11 | |
| have him come give his report. | 01:17:16 | |
| And and then. | 01:17:21 | |
| They'll have to decide whether they they wouldn't necessarily make a resolution at that time, but it would be for consideration in | 01:17:23 | |
| the in the budget for 26, right, right, right. That's how that would. | 01:17:28 | |
| Does that come then within this department? Is that how the money so or is it a separate line? | 01:17:34 | |
| Yeah, it's just appropriate through our department. | 01:17:40 | |
| OK, yeah. Umm. | 01:17:43 | |
| We I put it in the budget and it's there, but it comes from the tax levy. | 01:17:44 | |
| OK. | 01:17:49 | |
| All right. | 01:17:51 | |
| All right, poster contest. | 01:17:54 | |
| Although he had the area judging, I sent 4 posters to the area judging. | 01:17:57 | |
| One of them placed third and only the first place will go on to state at the conference next week. So. | 01:18:04 | |
| So we did OK. | 01:18:11 | |
| You know, they had some really nice ones there. | 01:18:13 | |
| So we had So how many are going to be there? Like when they hang up the posters? How many are from Dodge County then? Just not. | 01:18:16 | |
| They don't have any at the state this year. Well, we don't have any. Its name. | 01:18:20 | |
| OK. | 01:18:26 | |
| OK, down to committee reports and I'll do LSID. | 01:18:29 | |
| We are far as a native plant sale. We work with the whole friends of Oregon Marsh, the LSID and we met, yeah, we met on. | 01:18:34 | |
| 2/11/25 this month. | 01:18:44 | |
| And our first order of business was we do a native plant sale and this year we're going to increase. | 01:18:48 | |
| To households that participate in this will give them up to 40 bucks. So if they buy a flat of plants, the LSID will give them 40 | 01:18:53 | |
| bucks towards those plants. | 01:18:58 | |
| As far as lake management plan. | 01:19:04 | |
| We had five company, we had a meeting where five companies came expressed interest in in the proposal for the feasibility study | 01:19:07 | |
| for the dredging project up near Oxbow Marine. | 01:19:11 | |
| What's going to happen is. | 01:19:18 | |
| In the next couple, I think next week or two, the. | 01:19:21 | |
| The proposals are due and at our next month's meeting we will be reviewing the proposals and an approving 1. | 01:19:24 | |
| They'll probably be somewhere between 20 and $50,000 in that in that range. | 01:19:31 | |
| And that'll be they'll be ready for annual meeting that for this coming August. And that's. | 01:19:35 | |
| A proposal to make a plan to do the dredging project. The dredging project is in the millions of dollars, but it's going to show | 01:19:40 | |
| us like a pathway or how to do this. | 01:19:44 | |
| We did not get the $10,000 grant that we applied for for for the project. | 01:19:49 | |
| And then Shane. | 01:19:56 | |
| Kamer is is. He's a leader at LSA and LSID. | 01:19:59 | |
| He's an effective leader, and he and Chad Butler, LSA president, they talked at our meeting about the issue. | 01:20:05 | |
| With the. | 01:20:15 | |
| The flood group and. | 01:20:17 | |
| Interestingly, they thought. | 01:20:20 | |
| Mistakenly, Chad and I had called John to tell him this. Immediately, Chad assumed that the county was part of in supporting the | 01:20:23 | |
| position of this group. | 01:20:26 | |
| Because they had a meeting in this room and John was here and so they said, we assume that the county is fully supporting them. | 01:20:31 | |
| In their political position and I corrected them there and said that is not true. We allow them to use our building and we will do | 01:20:37 | |
| what we can, but does not mean that the county is supportive of their political position. So I just pay that crystal clear. | 01:20:45 | |
| Shane advocates that the county should be a neutral position that we should not be supporting to land owners. | 01:20:53 | |
| Against the 700 LSID. | 01:20:59 | |
| Because that's the way they view it. There's 700 members of the people on the lake there and they feel that. | 01:21:02 | |
| Their opposite ends. | 01:21:08 | |
| It got rather heated. | 01:21:10 | |
| And I told John that if if necessary, we should invite Shane to come and speak. | 01:21:12 | |
| Umm, when we hear arguments in May so that you hear another's point of view, so. | 01:21:22 | |
| And I don't know whether he will or not, but their position is, is that the county should be neutral. | 01:21:27 | |
| On this. | 01:21:32 | |
| And then just for your information, on Saturday, April 12th, there's the Mud and Chubb Tourney. | 01:21:34 | |
| From the Wisconsin Bowman Fishing Association. I don't know if they go on Beaver Dam Lee. | 01:21:42 | |
| Or Fox Lake, I don't know if they go. That's where they bring the big air boats and they go in the middle of the night. | 01:21:46 | |
| With they sound like jet engines and they have the big lights and then the bowlmen do their Boeing and everyone's calling the | 01:21:52 | |
| Sheriff's Department like what in the world is going on because it. | 01:21:57 | |
| They put their big lights on people's houses that live, you know. Anyway, just give everyone warning that'll happen on April 12th | 01:22:02 | |
| last year. | 01:22:05 | |
| A lot of commotion. | 01:22:10 | |
| So just to let everyone know. | 01:22:11 | |
| That's it for my report. | 01:22:13 | |
| So go ahead. | 01:22:15 | |
| I guess Bill. | 01:22:16 | |
| We did receive the surface water grants at $20,000. | 01:22:18 | |
| We were 12 and 13 out of 40, so that's very. | 01:22:23 | |
| Highly sought after. | 01:22:26 | |
| We'll use those funds to support the UW WR program. | 01:22:28 | |
| And their objectives are to perform a. | 01:22:32 | |
| Water quality analysis for the past 10 years. | 01:22:34 | |
| And look at the shoreline and the westward side of the lake. | 01:22:38 | |
| That is primarily a native shoreline. | 01:22:42 | |
| And see what we need to do to protect it so stays in that condition. | 01:22:45 | |
| We received the report from the DNR for their Electro fishing in October on Trestle Bay. | 01:22:50 | |
| They found that that Bay had 606 lbs of rough fish per acre. | 01:22:56 | |
| Fish and Wildlife identified that the target should be £89 per acre. | 01:23:02 | |
| And over £268 per acre. | 01:23:07 | |
| Is considered severe damage to a habitat. | 01:23:09 | |
| So we're twice as much for severe habitat damage. | 01:23:12 | |
| And six times, of course, 7 times. | 01:23:17 | |
| For the target amount. | 01:23:19 | |
| We've been working with the in our fishery now for better part of six years to put a plan together. | 01:23:22 | |
| To manage. | 01:23:28 | |
| And that began back in 2020. | 01:23:30 | |
| And we thought we had a pretty good Beaver Creek targeted watershed assessment of prepared. | 01:23:33 | |
| And approved by DNR. | 01:23:39 | |
| What we found in 2022. | 01:23:41 | |
| That the DNR fishery doesn't have to follow that plan. | 01:23:44 | |
| So in 2023, the fish biologists in Horican. | 01:23:48 | |
| Prepared an independent plan that could be executed. | 01:23:52 | |
| That spring and summer. | 01:23:55 | |
| And with her departure to another county, that fell apart. | 01:23:58 | |
| So in 2024 we started working with the DNR again to have an agreement put together. | 01:24:02 | |
| To have a comprehensive roughfish plan across Beaver Dam, lake and watershed. | 01:24:07 | |
| December we completed that and they told us in January. | 01:24:14 | |
| They want to change the agreement into a plan again. | 01:24:18 | |
| So we're starting over to have a plan. | 01:24:21 | |
| For Beaver Dam Blake for roughness control. | 01:24:23 | |
| So. | 01:24:26 | |
| It's an interesting process. | 01:24:28 | |
| You know, I feel sorry for the NRCS and FSA people. | 01:24:31 | |
| Here you have a case where we've done these. | 01:24:35 | |
| Plans and agreements 4 times. Not very efficient. | 01:24:37 | |
| And we could use our services and their services. | 01:24:41 | |
| For doing different projects, not redoing. | 01:24:44 | |
| What we did in 20 and 22 and 23. | 01:24:47 | |
| So just. | 01:24:50 | |
| Comment Opinion. | 01:24:51 | |
| The BDLA will have a healthy lakes. | 01:24:54 | |
| Presentation March 1st at 9:00 AM. | 01:24:57 | |
| At the Village of Randolph meeting room. | 01:25:00 | |
| Tracy Arnold and Nick Holman. | 01:25:02 | |
| From Portage County will be there as a presenters. | 01:25:05 | |
| And they'll be going over the different native plantings and practices to be used. | 01:25:07 | |
| And talk about the Healthy Lakes program. | 01:25:12 | |
| Where homeowners could receive $1000 to help them do their healthy lake plots. | 01:25:14 | |
| So. | 01:25:20 | |
| Feel free to join if you want to. | 01:25:21 | |
| March 1st. | 01:25:23 | |
| 9:00 AM Randolph. | 01:25:24 | |
| Villager, Randolph. | 01:25:26 | |
| That's all for today. | 01:25:29 | |
| What a deal. OK, Although we did not meet in person this month, we did have a virtual meeting. | 01:25:33 | |
| With. | 01:25:39 | |
| You are on their plant inventory survey. | 01:25:41 | |
| Uh is the company that we have hired to do. | 01:25:45 | |
| Our lake management plan that's. | 01:25:50 | |
| Edmonds and Oliver resources, which I think are in Minnesota, right? | 01:25:52 | |
| They were up to Madison still, I think. | 01:25:57 | |
| OK, so anyway. | 01:25:59 | |
| It was led by Jay Michaels from EOR. He's a replacement for the previous guy who took a job. | 01:26:02 | |
| Elsewhere. | 01:26:08 | |
| But I was most impressed with a young man, Drew Harry, who works for You are. | 01:26:10 | |
| He was the actual technician that was on Fox Lake to do the study. | 01:26:15 | |
| And he was. | 01:26:19 | |
| Very interesting to listen to. | 01:26:21 | |
| He kind of explained what they did. There is 881 points on the lake that they visit. They got them all. | 01:26:24 | |
| GPS located. | 01:26:31 | |
| They do 3 draws at each point. | 01:26:33 | |
| And many points had nose vegetation, so that went kind of fast when they get in those areas. | 01:26:35 | |
| And as a result of the survey, they gave a coefficient of conservation. | 01:26:41 | |
| Which where one is there's nothing and tennis the best you could hope for. | 01:26:48 | |
| And they found 17 different species. | 01:26:53 | |
| And awarded the lake a coefficient of 5.4, which is just slightly above average. | 01:26:57 | |
| And then they did another. | 01:27:03 | |
| Pluralistic quality index, which I think is the flooring from that mistaken. | 01:27:05 | |
| And five, six was above the high quality threshold for that coefficient. | 01:27:12 | |
| So. | 01:27:18 | |
| Drew Harry, he said they found a large amount of water celery, which is water celery and plant stem pond weed. | 01:27:20 | |
| What's your very desirable native species? So that's a good thing, Umm. | 01:27:28 | |
| He did state that most of the weeds are at the four to five foot lake level, where it's deeper. They didn't find much vegetation | 01:27:33 | |
| at all. | 01:27:37 | |
| As far as the invasive go there EUR Asian water mill file, we already had a high amount of that. | 01:27:42 | |
| But he's he made a. | 01:27:48 | |
| Comment that it can be confused with the Northern Water milfoil, which is a native. | 01:27:50 | |
| And sometimes he thought there might be some misidentification problems where they said it was the EUR Asian milfoil and it really | 01:27:55 | |
| wasn't. | 01:28:00 | |
| But he didn't think that we had us. | 01:28:04 | |
| Had a problem with that as they had thought in the past. | 01:28:06 | |
| Then you also showed a chart showing the milligrams of phosphorus in the lake has the last 20 years of showed a steady decline. | 01:28:11 | |
| So there's actually. | 01:28:18 | |
| A decline of phosphorus in Fox Lake. | 01:28:20 | |
| In the last 20 years. | 01:28:22 | |
| So in the end. | 01:28:25 | |
| Tamika, who is the committee chair, expressed A sentiment that the state requires this study every five years and it's quite | 01:28:28 | |
| expensive. | 01:28:32 | |
| And that we don't do anything with it except just look at it so. | 01:28:37 | |
| He's wondering whether we should do it again in the future if we don't get a grantees of the opinion that we shouldn't do it. | 01:28:41 | |
| So after the meeting, then he kind of went into the nano bubbler discussion again and. | 01:28:49 | |
| Try lakes through you are had done a nano bubbler. | 01:28:56 | |
| Trial in 2024. | 01:29:01 | |
| They did get a DNR permit, but they didn't really give the permit. | 01:29:04 | |
| Last part of September when the season was almost over, so they installed them. | 01:29:08 | |
| Then. | 01:29:13 | |
| But there was very little, you know, because it was so late in the season, there wasn't. | 01:29:14 | |
| Nothing that could be. | 01:29:18 | |
| Learned from this study at. | 01:29:22 | |
| In 24. | 01:29:25 | |
| So. | 01:29:28 | |
| What was impressive for Tri Lakes is that. | 01:29:29 | |
| The borrowing they were going to borrow money to do the nano bubblers and. | 01:29:35 | |
| It was. | 01:29:40 | |
| A very large amount of money, something like $30 million. | 01:29:41 | |
| But they did approve spending 3,000,000, which I thought was quite a bit of money to approve to borrow to do the nano bubbler | 01:29:45 | |
| study. I'm not even sure where trial eggs is. Where is trial eggs? | 01:29:49 | |
| The DNR will require a lot of very expensive data collection. | 01:29:59 | |
| For their grant money and. | 01:30:03 | |
| And that's where a lot of the money will be spent, the data collection. | 01:30:07 | |
| Not so much the installation of the nano bubblers. | 01:30:11 | |
| There was an attempt to get UW Stevens Point involved to do some monitoring to save money. | 01:30:14 | |
| Whether that will happen or not, they don't know yet. | 01:30:20 | |
| 3,000,000 for data collection. | 01:30:22 | |
| Well, that's the whole project, but data collection is a large part of it. | 01:30:24 | |
| OK. | 01:30:28 | |
| Just to clarify, Nana Bubbers is a concentrated. | 01:30:31 | |
| 02 but it also. | 01:30:35 | |
| Is ozone, which is over 3. | 01:30:38 | |
| Which the DNR considers a pesticide. | 01:30:40 | |
| But umm. | 01:30:43 | |
| Whether it really is or not, I don't know. | 01:30:44 | |
| Anyway, so anyway, any data that they gather will prove beneficial for anybody moving forward with nano bubblers, so. | 01:30:46 | |
| Does the plant study allow you to do an AES plant invasive species plan? | 01:30:55 | |
| For weed removal. | 01:31:00 | |
| I don't think really because. | 01:31:04 | |
| They didn't think our invasive species was that. | 01:31:06 | |
| OK. | 01:31:09 | |
| They thought we are. They're misidentifying Eurasian before. | 01:31:11 | |
| That they said there was more than there really was. That's what this. | 01:31:14 | |
| Technician had said so. | 01:31:18 | |
| So your weed removal will be for nuisance, not a S primarily. | 01:31:21 | |
| Primarily, yes. Yes. | 01:31:25 | |
| What day did you meet Dale? | 01:31:28 | |
| What's that? What day did you meet? | 01:31:30 | |
| It was on the 11th. | 01:31:32 | |
| OK. | 01:31:34 | |
| And we got that same event invitation that the healthy soils and they give Eastern Standard Time. So one guy got there when the | 01:31:38 | |
| meeting was over. | 01:31:41 | |
| All right. | 01:31:55 | |
| Any questions on the committee reports? | 01:31:56 | |
| OK if not. | 01:32:00 | |
| John, you want to update us on the conference? I think we're pretty much yeah. I got you all registered that are gone. Your rooms | 01:32:01 | |
| are taken care of. | 01:32:05 | |
| This year. | 01:32:10 | |
| I am going to make. | 01:32:12 | |
| All the check insurance for the rooms. | 01:32:13 | |
| So you look for me to get your cards? | 01:32:16 | |
| I had so much problems last year. | 01:32:19 | |
| With it was a hotel issue, you know, I'm not going to go through that again, so I'm gonna check everybody in. I'll have your room | 01:32:22 | |
| cards. | 01:32:26 | |
| You look me up. | 01:32:30 | |
| And I'll get them to you. | 01:32:32 | |
| What time about I? | 01:32:34 | |
| But it starts after lunch, right? It starts. Yeah, Conferences start after lunch. I mean, I'll be there. | 01:32:36 | |
| Probably by 10:00 myself, you know. | 01:32:42 | |
| OK, I think I that's entirely up to you. | 01:32:48 | |
| If you guys want a carpool. | 01:32:53 | |
| Now I'm taking my personal truck. | 01:32:55 | |
| I got room. | 01:32:57 | |
| I would. | 01:33:00 | |
| Carpool, OK. | 01:33:02 | |
| Ken, I'm probably just going to drive myself, OK? I know Lisa is only going for one day. | 01:33:04 | |
| So I'll let you know what time I'll leave and I'll send you guys an e-mail. | 01:33:10 | |
| And then and then for me, like I'm bringing my wife. Then you'll just bill me afterwards for the Yep. | 01:33:14 | |
| The whole telling me, the hotel and the conference, OK, that's fine. | 01:33:19 | |
| OK. Next meeting of this committee is March 24th, 8:30. Is that OK with everybody? | 01:33:25 | |
| All right. | 01:33:33 | |
| Future agenda items, do we need to put a notice that we're going to be together or at this conference? Yeah, I'll put something | 01:33:35 | |
| out. | 01:33:38 | |
| And then what about and what about? What about this coming Friday? | 01:33:42 | |
| For our extension, you know what I mean. I wonder if I should. | 01:33:49 | |
| We'd include that too in there that we. | 01:33:52 | |
| There may be. | 01:33:55 | |
| She did. | 01:33:57 | |
| Because they don't want it. | 01:34:01 | |
| It is OK. So make sure we don't have any negative quorum issues, OK. And the other question I have for future agenda. | 01:34:02 | |
| I went back and tried. I replayed a video of our meeting here. I don't know if you've ever done that through the video county | 01:34:10 | |
| system. I don't know if you've ever done that. | 01:34:15 | |
| I think and I don't know. | 01:34:20 | |
| Umm, I think there could be an improvement on how you act like, like like if there was a date on it and John and I looked that | 01:34:23 | |
| member, you know what I mean? OK. What happens is that they record all the committee meetings of the county. | 01:34:28 | |
| And they are in order of when they're recorded, but there's no. | 01:34:34 | |
| So like was there 100 meetings or something you look at and say you wanted to find this meeting? | 01:34:38 | |
| You think that you would say I want the conservation meeting on February 24th? You think that's what? | 01:34:43 | |
| I know, I know, but but but it can't be that hard do that took me a long time the first time. Went back to lookout to figure out | 01:34:49 | |
| what you mean. It took me a long to figure out how to get to the place to get to the meeting. So shame. So I had to call him and | 01:34:56 | |
| he's telling me step by step how to find her because Shane wanted to review one of the meetings and I was like. | 01:35:02 | |
| And I had you had to. | 01:35:09 | |
| And he, John made it pretty easy to be honest with you, but it shouldn't be that hard. | 01:35:11 | |
| Now you got to actually open it up before you find out what day it is. | 01:35:16 | |
| So I think I don't we. | 01:35:20 | |
| Should we make a? | 01:35:23 | |
| A future agenda item to make a recommendation to it. You guys need to, I can just call it and because really it's ridiculous. It | 01:35:24 | |
| should be like really easy to find a meeting. | 01:35:29 | |
| Yeah, so. | 01:35:35 | |
| OK, well. | 01:35:36 | |
| Yeah. | 01:35:38 | |
| OK. All right. I will will do you know what I'm talking about, Dave? OK, OK. | 01:35:42 | |
| All right, sounds good. | 01:35:49 | |
| And your question earlier about if somebody got on the ledge admin meeting? | 01:35:52 | |
| Per diem in that. | 01:35:57 | |
| I know Lisa's on the Southern Area Association and when she goes to them. | 01:35:58 | |
| She gets per diem in mileage. | 01:36:03 | |
| So I don't see why it would be an issue unless if the county said no. | 01:36:05 | |
| Richland County. | 01:36:10 | |
| They've actually said no. | 01:36:12 | |
| And the Southern Area Association. | 01:36:14 | |
| Budgeted funds to help offset that. | 01:36:18 | |
| But then the person never claimed reimbursement on him anyway, said she didn't want it so. | 01:36:21 | |
| But I don't think it would be an issue if somebody wanted to get on one of them as far as. | 01:36:26 | |
| Putting it in in my budget for. | 01:36:31 | |
| Mileage and per diem's. Both per diems are paid for through the county and the mileage that would all go on county board side. | 01:36:34 | |
| OK. I unless there's any other discussion, I will call this meeting adjourned by the completion of the agenda. | 01:36:42 | |
| Thank everybody. | 01:36:50 | |
| They got to sign these things. | 01:36:55 |
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| I've taken the roll call. We have 11 absent. We have a quorum. | 00:00:00 | |
| Do I have any public comment today? | 00:00:06 | |
| You're not seeing any of the public here for comment. | 00:00:09 | |
| OK, it's your pleasure. The minutes from January 27th. | 00:00:13 | |
| I'll move to approve. OK. John moves to approve her first and we need a second. | 00:00:16 | |
| I'll suck up Ken second. | 00:00:21 | |
| Any discussion? | 00:00:23 | |
| No, but can I talk about public comment a minute? I don't know if anybody has seen this, but Kirk Calkins was asking for LCC | 00:00:25 | |
| supervisors. | 00:00:29 | |
| Where I believe he's on, is he on the executive committee or legislative committee, Legislative, legislative. | 00:00:33 | |
| He's begging for supervisors. | 00:00:38 | |
| To come. | 00:00:41 | |
| And I used to do that a number of years ago. | 00:00:42 | |
| But it was on my own ticket. Is there any way the county would be able to have someone? | 00:00:45 | |
| If they wanted to. | 00:00:50 | |
| I don't want to because I'm too busy, but I just thought I'd mention it. | 00:00:53 | |
| That we could talk about it at the end of future items. | 00:00:56 | |
| Yeah, I can check into that. All right. Put that at the end for future items. | 00:00:59 | |
| OK, back to what we're doing. All those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:01:03 | |
| Passes. Approve the minutes then. | 00:01:10 | |
| OK. | 00:01:13 | |
| Update on the Community Needs Forum, and that's this coming Friday between 1:00 and 3:00. | 00:01:15 | |
| Encourage the committee members to come if they can. So go ahead. | 00:01:21 | |
| Yep, come on up, you got to be on TV. | 00:01:27 | |
| Got to hear you and all that. | 00:01:31 | |
| All right. | 00:01:33 | |
| Hi, good morning everyone. We send out over 312. | 00:01:41 | |
| Invites. | 00:01:47 | |
| To our community partners included all of course, the department heads. | 00:01:48 | |
| All the supervisors as well as all the partners that we've worked with. | 00:01:52 | |
| Right now we have 40 that RSVP, 32 attending. | 00:01:57 | |
| So that's great. You know, you never know when you send that out. | 00:02:02 | |
| So that's really the updates this Friday like. | 00:02:06 | |
| He said, how would you, how would you like us to disperse among the? | 00:02:09 | |
| You can divide it up into five or something. Yeah, 5 groupings, right? Yep. We'll have egg, We're gonna take dairy and crops, put | 00:02:15 | |
| them together. Well, youth development, we'll have community development in HDR. So I think that's 4. | 00:02:23 | |
| But anyway that you you know you want to, you're more than welcome to sit at any table that you really have an interest. | 00:02:32 | |
| Into here a little bit more, we do do a share back. | 00:02:39 | |
| If you don't know the the processes, we're going to be the tables. We have questions that are already generated. Every question is | 00:02:43 | |
| the same on each table. | 00:02:47 | |
| And then once we have these discussions. | 00:02:51 | |
| Umm, come back and you share like the top three things that resonated in that group. What is great about? | 00:02:54 | |
| This people that couldn't attend, they still answered the question. So we have a lot of those. | 00:03:02 | |
| Answers to the questions already. So we will take that information and compile it all and share it back in addition to a couple | 00:03:08 | |
| months we'll talk about. | 00:03:13 | |
| The priorities that we see from this in addition to the Community forum. | 00:03:19 | |
| We also look at other data. | 00:03:24 | |
| To extension always looks at other data to bring in. I know Cameron's been. | 00:03:26 | |
| Working with our human development relationship educator to learn about what data she's been using. So we take all that and | 00:03:31 | |
| synthesize. It takes a couple months, I know. | 00:03:36 | |
| It sounds like, wow, that's a lot of time, but we want to make sure we're doing it right. It's interesting this week, last week I | 00:03:40 | |
| was. | 00:03:44 | |
| In at a conference and I spent a lot of time with the Illinois folks that actually did this. So I asked a lot more questions. How | 00:03:48 | |
| did this look? What are we, you know? So that was a great opportunity. | 00:03:54 | |
| Any other questions on that? Yeah, on the OK after this meeting, because we have a time frame here, we have to move along to get | 00:04:01 | |
| it to the county board. What for next month? Are you going to like e-mail us a report then beforehand that we could read or how is | 00:04:06 | |
| that? How does that or just kind of let me know. | 00:04:12 | |
| Take the priorities. You're probably going to get more than you probably want it. I figured we would. | 00:04:20 | |
| Yeah. And that's fine because you want to see the the breadth, you know, the depth of what's going to be shared. And then from | 00:04:25 | |
| there we'll work with each one of the program areas. | 00:04:29 | |
| To identify, OK, this is egg. These are the priorities. Are we doing this already? That's a one thing that I think you're going to | 00:04:34 | |
| be surprised at because a lot of the questions and the answers I've been reading, it's things we do already. | 00:04:41 | |
| So this is a, but there may be things that arise from the conversations that we may not be doing or we're not addressing. So we'll | 00:04:47 | |
| look at all that. As I said in the past, things may come up that maybe not in our scope right yet like AI, but it doesn't mean | 00:04:53 | |
| that we, this information is shared with you. | 00:05:00 | |
| Here, but it also shared with the state so they know what's going on. | 00:05:07 | |
| In certain time, you know, we can look at those things, especially if it's not just. | 00:05:11 | |
| Dodge County, they're going to do these community forums across the state in time. We're just ahead of the game, which is great. I | 00:05:17 | |
| like that kind of stuff. | 00:05:20 | |
| And so we may be seeing there's evolving themes that we haven't addressed in the past. | 00:05:25 | |
| So that goes to Madison. We're gonna have to schedule any extra meetings between now and before the. | 00:05:30 | |
| You know, like. | 00:05:37 | |
| Going over things, do we need an extra meeting or I mean, you have to answer today, but think about that. Do we need because we, I | 00:05:38 | |
| think originally when Cameron and I were were setting this up, we thought we might have to have a couple extra meetings just to | 00:05:44 | |
| make sure that there's time for thorough discussion because we are talking about the direction of the, of the county and. | 00:05:50 | |
| Incorporating these people in that direction. And I just want, I just don't want to put it on here and go to a quick list and then | 00:05:56 | |
| you want to talk for an hour, you know what I mean? | 00:06:01 | |
| In the timeline that I shared, it was more of meetings with you, Andrew and Cameron. So maybe we'll follow up, OK. | 00:06:06 | |
| Monthly, and we can do that more if we need to as things evolved. | 00:06:13 | |
| The programmer is actually working on a format that will be. I remember what you said. Let's make it real. | 00:06:18 | |
| High level, user friendly, not give you tons of stuff. So you'll have that formal report because I believe we go it'll be | 00:06:23 | |
| presented in May here and then board at the board too. | 00:06:29 | |
| Would we, yeah. Would we talk about the community farm at all and one of the egg areas would we, I mean, because that's been in a | 00:06:35 | |
| priority this. | 00:06:39 | |
| The upcoming possibility of a farm. | 00:06:42 | |
| County Farm, would that be in one of these or not? Your Cameron, would that be incorporated or? | 00:06:45 | |
| I'm sure I'm thinking here, I'm Dale reminds me. I gotta think there. You know, we want to. We want that. I'll bring it up for | 00:06:50 | |
| sure, OK? I just want to make sure because that's a priority for us to achieve. | 00:06:55 | |
| Any other questions from the committee about the upcoming? | 00:07:07 | |
| If we can spread out, it'd be good. I know we want to be in our areas expertise, but if we can spread out I think it'd be good. | 00:07:13 | |
| Try to. | 00:07:16 | |
| So I don't know if not to be rude, but might try to go to a couple of them, you know? | 00:07:19 | |
| You can, absolutely. One thing that was interesting when I talked to the Illinois folks, they said the best thing out of the whole | 00:07:23 | |
| forum is how the community, the partners that didn't know each other, really connected. | 00:07:30 | |
| And they started talking, boy, I didn't know you did this. And so not only is it helpful for the county and extension, but it was | 00:07:37 | |
| also really helpful for the partners. | 00:07:42 | |
| To hear what was going on. | 00:07:46 | |
| OK, you have introduction to new Community impact reports. | 00:07:50 | |
| I assume that's what you it's included in the packet. | 00:07:55 | |
| That's on the second page. I believe it starts on the second page. This is the one of the reports and I think they've done been | 00:07:58 | |
| done quite a while in the past. We have a portal that our educators are expectation required that they report. We scale it down a | 00:08:05 | |
| bit because it's lengthy. | 00:08:11 | |
| So we really. | 00:08:18 | |
| Excuse me, tried to focus on. | 00:08:19 | |
| The impact here in Dodge County, you'll receive these every month and I know. | 00:08:22 | |
| Amber's been working on it for the next one coming up. | 00:08:29 | |
| So we're a month behind usually, just so you know. | 00:08:33 | |
| So what they report is a month behind just because of how they reported the end of the month. So that's one of it. This also is on | 00:08:36 | |
| our website. | 00:08:40 | |
| And in addition to that, remember when Manuel was here last time, we showed the one page report that really focused on what Manuel | 00:08:44 | |
| was doing. Well, now they are accessible on our website and you want to pull one of those up? | 00:08:52 | |
| Those are the monthly ones. | 00:09:02 | |
| I just talked about there you go. | 00:09:03 | |
| And so each educator and you can just click on one well. | 00:09:05 | |
| We'll have these. | 00:09:10 | |
| You know, and we'll do these probably quarterly. | 00:09:11 | |
| And it really talks about what's going on here, what needs assessment that they have done, what was the outcome, who they're | 00:09:14 | |
| working with. | 00:09:18 | |
| And who they've finished things up. | 00:09:22 | |
| I know that's one question that we get quite often. So what's going on in Dodge County? | 00:09:25 | |
| So this really addresses that. Usually they'll have an evaluation piece on here. This was very quick and new for the educators, so | 00:09:30 | |
| they rallied and got this done rather quickly. | 00:09:36 | |
| So what I really value in these opportunities to talk to you is. | 00:09:42 | |
| Feedback. | 00:09:47 | |
| You may think about, well you know, this is good, but maybe we need this. So think about the feedback, especially for this one | 00:09:48 | |
| that helps us. | 00:09:53 | |
| Communicate what we're doing effectively. So think about it. You don't have to answer now. | 00:09:58 | |
| But if you see something, you can shoot me an e-mail or talk to one of the educators or one night come to these. | 00:10:03 | |
| Meetings. So we do really appreciate the feedback. | 00:10:09 | |
| And like Amber has on there the Dodge County monthly highlights that was the the. | 00:10:12 | |
| On the second. | 00:10:17 | |
| Page you see the report. | 00:10:19 | |
| So they're all on our website, very accessible. | 00:10:24 | |
| Anybody. | 00:10:28 | |
| Any questions from the committee members with reports? | 00:10:29 | |
| OK. All right. Moving on to highlights. | 00:10:33 | |
| I don't know what that is that. | 00:10:39 | |
| That's what that's what you just did. OK. OK. All right, All right, Pat, you're up. | 00:10:41 | |
| Pat is our Community Development educator and. | 00:10:47 | |
| Yeah. | 00:10:59 | |
| All right. Thank you. | 00:11:11 | |
| Thank you. | 00:11:18 | |
| I hope you are all fine on this. | 00:11:26 | |
| Bright Monday morning. That's much warmer than it was last week. | 00:11:29 | |
| What I'm going to do today is talk about a program I an upcoming program that I have. | 00:11:34 | |
| Coming down the. | 00:11:41 | |
| Down the road. | 00:11:43 | |
| And it's also an opportunity to help you better understand the kind of work that community development educators do. Obviously, | 00:11:45 | |
| I've been doing a lot of needs assessments and things like that. | 00:11:50 | |
| But it's always nice to actually get on the ground and do some. | 00:11:58 | |
| Teaching some programming. | 00:12:02 | |
| So. | 00:12:04 | |
| I'm going to talk about a program called First Impressions. | 00:12:05 | |
| And this is like a secret chopper program or an exchange program between two communities that are somewhat similar. | 00:12:09 | |
| But a little bit of a distance away. | 00:12:17 | |
| And it's an opportunity for community members. | 00:12:20 | |
| To gain some information as visitors to a different community. | 00:12:26 | |
| And it's an opportunity for the community participating. | 00:12:31 | |
| To get a better understanding of what it does well, what it could do better. | 00:12:36 | |
| And I want you to know that this program has been in existence. | 00:12:42 | |
| Oh my gosh. | 00:12:46 | |
| Sincerely, 90s. | 00:12:49 | |
| And I've already done a couple of these. | 00:12:51 | |
| In my past job. | 00:12:54 | |
| And what happened is that a friend of mine who is the economic and community development director for the city of Columbus stopped | 00:12:56 | |
| by my office and said. | 00:13:01 | |
| Boy, we got a group of people and they really need something to kind of kick start what they're doing. | 00:13:07 | |
| Do you think you could do arrange an exchange program? And I'm like, well. | 00:13:14 | |
| OK, let's give it a try. | 00:13:20 | |
| And. | 00:13:22 | |
| I solicited my fellow educators and. | 00:13:26 | |
| Gotta got a positive response so. | 00:13:32 | |
| I will be doing an exchange with Dodgeville. | 00:13:37 | |
| So about the same size, kind of. | 00:13:42 | |
| Somewhat similar. | 00:13:44 | |
| And there are some very specific things that. | 00:13:47 | |
| People who participate can learn. | 00:13:51 | |
| You know, if you think about it and I asked you, you know. | 00:13:53 | |
| If you're from Juneau, it's like, where's the best breakfast or whatever? You can probably tell me, no problem. | 00:13:58 | |
| But if I'm just coming in, are there good signs, street signs? | 00:14:04 | |
| Do does the City Hall give good information? What is the you know? | 00:14:08 | |
| That kind of thing it's often easy for us to overlook. | 00:14:14 | |
| Challenges that our communities face. | 00:14:19 | |
| And that outside perspective can really highlight both the positive things. | 00:14:23 | |
| And some of the challenges. | 00:14:28 | |
| And that. | 00:14:32 | |
| That the most powerful part of it is that. | 00:14:33 | |
| Those exchanges, the reports that are written, can actually give. | 00:14:36 | |
| The Community A starting place for Community Action. | 00:14:41 | |
| And when I was approached by my friend, he was like, you know, I've got these people, they really want to do some stuff, but | 00:14:46 | |
| they're kind of struggling. And it's this kind of program can really give them something to grab onto and. | 00:14:53 | |
| And take charge. | 00:15:00 | |
| Umm, So what does the program look like? | 00:15:03 | |
| To communities agree that they are willing and ready to do an exchange. | 00:15:08 | |
| Each community has a coordinator. | 00:15:15 | |
| And in this case. | 00:15:17 | |
| Umm, I will serve as coordinator for Columbus. | 00:15:20 | |
| And my friend. | 00:15:23 | |
| Will the Conrad agent in Iowa County will service their coordinator? | 00:15:25 | |
| And we recruit 5 to 6 volunteers. It might be from the community at large. | 00:15:30 | |
| It might be from the Chamber of Commerce. It certainly depends on who's the. | 00:15:35 | |
| The sponsor. | 00:15:40 | |
| And we trained the volunteers, you know, here's what you need to be looking for. | 00:15:42 | |
| Here's what to expect. Here's the review process. | 00:15:48 | |
| Answering me questions they have. | 00:15:52 | |
| And then we arrange a time and a date. | 00:15:55 | |
| And we travel. | 00:15:58 | |
| To that. | 00:15:59 | |
| Partner Community. | 00:16:01 | |
| And we're going to collect. | 00:16:03 | |
| You know. | 00:16:05 | |
| Photos and each participant is going to write up some research, a whole series of questions. | 00:16:06 | |
| Like you know how with the signage and. | 00:16:12 | |
| You know, when you went to the City Hall, did they have the information you needed? Were they? | 00:16:15 | |
| Polite and then. | 00:16:19 | |
| That coordinator takes the lead role in preparing that final report. | 00:16:23 | |
| Those reports are shared. | 00:16:28 | |
| And community meetings are held to. | 00:16:29 | |
| Share that information more broadly. | 00:16:32 | |
| And I will tell you. | 00:16:36 | |
| At least in my experience doing this. | 00:16:37 | |
| They're really, really great exchanges that communities that I LED through this. | 00:16:40 | |
| Actually took the information to heart. | 00:16:46 | |
| And made some significant changes in how how they did things in the community. | 00:16:49 | |
| Both how they interacted with people and sort of things like signage and they put in place a. | 00:16:55 | |
| You know. | 00:17:04 | |
| Ordinances for. | 00:17:06 | |
| Street sign for business signs and. | 00:17:09 | |
| I mean I I had. | 00:17:13 | |
| People years, years after having done this, that came up and said this was the best thing they'd ever done. | 00:17:14 | |
| They really had a fun time as well as doing something that was really valuable. | 00:17:21 | |
| For their community. | 00:17:27 | |
| So I'm going to ask, do you have any questions? I mean, this is an example of some of the kind of work that we do. | 00:17:29 | |
| I think it's a great idea. We in Beaver Dam have two focus groups we started. | 00:17:38 | |
| Around the lake. | 00:17:43 | |
| And it's interesting the first session. | 00:17:44 | |
| You're dispelling the. | 00:17:47 | |
| Untruth or. | 00:17:49 | |
| Tribal knowledge that really is, in fact. | 00:17:50 | |
| And you learn things from the people that. | 00:17:53 | |
| You wouldn't necessarily gain otherwise over coffee and rolls. | 00:17:57 | |
| A lot of **** comes out. | 00:18:02 | |
| Oh yeah, it really it's important to take that time. | 00:18:03 | |
| Umm, because we do. We sort of build up our own. | 00:18:09 | |
| Sort of myths. | 00:18:12 | |
| About our community. | 00:18:14 | |
| You know, I had one community in there. | 00:18:16 | |
| Their their community motto was. | 00:18:19 | |
| Name of city, the friendly place. And it was like. | 00:18:23 | |
| You've never asked. | 00:18:27 | |
| Anybody who visited, whether this was a friendly place, trust me, it's not. | 00:18:29 | |
| You know, and, and it's like think about it when you're going into a community. | 00:18:38 | |
| Think about how important signage is. | 00:18:42 | |
| You're looking for the community swimming pool. There's no sign to lead you that place. You're looking for the schools. | 00:18:45 | |
| No signs to lead you that place. | 00:18:53 | |
| And I tell you as I drive around. | 00:18:55 | |
| Dodge County, it's like. | 00:18:58 | |
| I'm looking for that stuff. It's like. | 00:19:00 | |
| They're doing a good job here, or boy, I can't find anything. | 00:19:02 | |
| So that's an excellent idea. That's yet another way to do this. | 00:19:07 | |
| The town would be Ram, the city be rent administrator. | 00:19:12 | |
| Notice that there's no signs this way to the beach. | 00:19:15 | |
| Go away. | 00:19:18 | |
| So you're going to start putting those in? | 00:19:21 | |
| Very good. | 00:19:23 | |
| You look at digital signs also, I mean most people now they, you know, they're gonna look on their phone for information about | 00:19:25 | |
| their community. Do you look at that also as an impression? We look at their digital. | 00:19:30 | |
| Footprint as well, that's sort of some of the pre visit. | 00:19:35 | |
| Assignment. We have one or two people whose job is to go and look at. | 00:19:38 | |
| You know all the. | 00:19:43 | |
| Their web presence. | 00:19:46 | |
| And actually call. I mean, you know. | 00:19:48 | |
| Call and see what kind of reception they get. | 00:19:51 | |
| These don't happen overnight, where our timeline is the actual visit. | 00:19:56 | |
| Will be in January and and we need to. | 00:20:02 | |
| Meet with people and have time to get them trained and. | 00:20:05 | |
| The visit, the visit will be when, what month? We are looking to do it in June, June yes, of course we were scheduling this on the | 00:20:10 | |
| day it was the coldest here so. | 00:20:14 | |
| But if you think about all the things that are happening, you know, it seemed a good time. Any other questions? | 00:20:22 | |
| Questions from the members, what can I ask you? What's the next thing you'll be looking at doing that or combining with so we can | 00:20:29 | |
| update us on what you're doing since we have you here, OK. | 00:20:33 | |
| Well. | 00:20:37 | |
| Haven't had enough caffeine yet? | 00:20:42 | |
| I am working with a couple of our specialists, Carl Green. | 00:20:45 | |
| And Matt Kuras. | 00:20:50 | |
| And we're looking at the question of housing and housing data. | 00:20:51 | |
| And um. | 00:20:56 | |
| You know, we have some good data. | 00:20:58 | |
| It's largely updated. It was done by. | 00:21:00 | |
| The professor at UW Whitewater. | 00:21:05 | |
| There are some things that could be updated, but it's. | 00:21:08 | |
| One of the things we're looking at doing right now is actually a survey of. | 00:21:11 | |
| The users to see what it is you actually. | 00:21:16 | |
| Want to know? I mean, if any of you remember that report, it's 134 pages. | 00:21:21 | |
| Huge. It is rich with data. | 00:21:27 | |
| And I can tell you that there might be like. | 00:21:31 | |
| Two or three people, I being one of them, who are like excited by all that data. So it's like. | 00:21:35 | |
| What is it that you really need to help you make? | 00:21:41 | |
| Decisions and think through this process. | 00:21:45 | |
| So we're going to be putting together a survey. So that's the next big thing, OK. And then Dale and I were at the comprehensive | 00:21:48 | |
| plan. I know we saw some of that stuff. It was really discouraging, quite frankly. | 00:21:53 | |
| Looking at some of the statistics, you know. | 00:21:59 | |
| And I don't the other supervisors will eventually see it and and and are you going to help help our county then work towards like. | 00:22:02 | |
| We just don't want the data we want to, like, move forward. You know what I mean? Yeah, I. | 00:22:11 | |
| I am available, you know, I know it's, it's, it's about working well with Nate Olson and and your department. | 00:22:16 | |
| But that's one of the things that we can do is is work with groups and organizations. | 00:22:23 | |
| Help them take that data and turn it into action. | 00:22:28 | |
| Yeah. | 00:22:34 | |
| Planning Comp planning is. | 00:22:36 | |
| A very challenging process because you're spending a lot of money. You hired a good firm. | 00:22:39 | |
| To help you with that process. | 00:22:44 | |
| But ultimately, those decisions about. | 00:22:48 | |
| What you do with the data, the action plan you put together is what makes the the difference. | 00:22:51 | |
| And it's easier to bite off a little less and make sure you get it done then to go, oh, I'm going to take on this whole thing | 00:22:57 | |
| because you have time. | 00:23:02 | |
| Yeah. And just so the rest of you know, if you haven't seen some of that data, the projections for the future and some of the | 00:23:07 | |
| things, Dale, you and I saw some of those like or. | 00:23:11 | |
| We don't want ahead. | 00:23:14 | |
| You know what I mean? We don't want to do that. We want to go the right way. If we don't, if we sit and do nothing and we don't | 00:23:15 | |
| act and community develop throughout our county. | 00:23:20 | |
| There could be some problems and, you know, we we have to act and we want to act and we want to be smart about it. And that's | 00:23:25 | |
| where UW comes in. Yeah. And and I think one of the things that we can do that's really helpful. | 00:23:31 | |
| Is actually, you look at all those things and you're like, where do we start? | 00:23:37 | |
| Where do we start? | 00:23:41 | |
| Didn't you kind of feel like that when you were looking at all this overwhelming? | 00:23:43 | |
| It's overwhelming. | 00:23:46 | |
| And what I have always told the people I work with. | 00:23:48 | |
| How do you eat an elephant? | 00:23:51 | |
| One bite at a time. | 00:23:53 | |
| And almost sometimes the priority just kind of slaps you in the face and you're like, OK, let's work on that. | 00:23:55 | |
| But sometimes you really need to think through. | 00:24:03 | |
| Through priorities. But the the real kicker is. | 00:24:07 | |
| Just take that first. | 00:24:10 | |
| Step. Take that first. | 00:24:13 | |
| Bite. | 00:24:15 | |
| You know, build something positive. | 00:24:16 | |
| Put in place action that. | 00:24:20 | |
| That you can accomplish and get done, and that sort of builds up the psychology of. | 00:24:22 | |
| We can do this. We can get this thing done. | 00:24:28 | |
| And you know, honestly some of the things. | 00:24:32 | |
| You know, they're so influenced by outside forces. | 00:24:36 | |
| That you may not have as much. | 00:24:41 | |
| You know, agency to address them. | 00:24:45 | |
| But there are plenty of things that you can do. | 00:24:47 | |
| So take those on. | 00:24:50 | |
| But that's one of the things it's like. | 00:24:52 | |
| You know, help you decide Russell through all that stuff and and go, OK. | 00:24:54 | |
| There's all this, but we're going to start here. | 00:24:59 | |
| We have resources, we have ideas. This is a place we're going to start. | 00:25:02 | |
| OK. Any other questions? | 00:25:08 | |
| OK. | 00:25:10 | |
| We'll be on Friday then. | 00:25:11 | |
| Oh yeah. | 00:25:13 | |
| OK, extension be Cindy, before you leave, I have a quick question. You're not here for future agenda items. | 00:25:15 | |
| Those supervisors that were here in Cameron, we were asked by one of the supervisors at the county board meeting if the UW | 00:25:22 | |
| Extension provides. | 00:25:26 | |
| Services for design and you don't have to get back to me because it's not on our agenda, but if you could please get back to | 00:25:31 | |
| Cameron. | 00:25:34 | |
| So we could have a definitive answer we. | 00:25:37 | |
| Had a question about services you offer at no charge to the county. | 00:25:41 | |
| And I think it needs to be clarified and Cameron looked into it. So that'd be helpful for if you could do that before you leave | 00:25:45 | |
| today or soon. | 00:25:50 | |
| Cameron knows exactly what I'm talking about. So the other supervisors so. | 00:25:54 | |
| Thank you. Right, Cameron? Right. We want to nail it. | 00:25:58 | |
| It's extension this extension committee. | 00:26:01 | |
| Thank you. | 00:26:04 | |
| He'll he'll let you know. | 00:26:05 | |
| All right. | 00:26:08 | |
| All right. | 00:26:11 | |
| So. | 00:26:13 | |
| I am just gonna speak to Matt, OK? | 00:26:15 | |
| Morning, everyone. | 00:26:19 | |
| NRCS can't make it today. They have a couple meetings and they're out in the field, so they asked me to pass on a few notes for | 00:26:21 | |
| that. There's not a whole lot going on for NRCS. | 00:26:25 | |
| Sign up Wise, they are currently working on their existing CE. | 00:26:31 | |
| CSP contracts. | 00:26:35 | |
| Believe the field office is out doing field visits, whatever they need to do for that that planning and contracting process. | 00:26:37 | |
| They also just wanted me to pass along information in regards to the government cutbacks. | 00:26:45 | |
| They are affected. | 00:26:52 | |
| It is kind of a chaotic situation there right now. I think in our area we have at least. | 00:26:54 | |
| 6 maybe 10 people that have been released from service. | 00:27:01 | |
| Part of how many? | 00:27:05 | |
| In our office, it's 30. | 00:27:07 | |
| So again, I don't know if that's just in our office or if that's in our area. | 00:27:10 | |
| So they just wanted to pass that information on that if. | 00:27:15 | |
| Receiving services, they may be a little delayed. | 00:27:20 | |
| As they figure out who's going to cover what from the people that have left the agency. | 00:27:23 | |
| In regards to that. | 00:27:30 | |
| There's the resignation thing That again. | 00:27:32 | |
| Has been put on. We have not received any information. | 00:27:36 | |
| As an agency, exactly who those members are. | 00:27:39 | |
| That will be leaving on that. I did hear that our district has. | 00:27:43 | |
| A fair number. So again in the future the numbers will be reducing even more. | 00:27:48 | |
| Which will delay services. | 00:27:53 | |
| In the field. | 00:27:56 | |
| So just so you guys are aware of that. | 00:27:57 | |
| From NRCS. | 00:27:59 | |
| Any questions on NRCS and I can't answer a lot but just some information. | 00:28:01 | |
| So do the feeling that a lot of conservation programs are going to be. | 00:28:06 | |
| Down skilled. | 00:28:10 | |
| More than likely. | 00:28:12 | |
| Just an assumption at this point. | 00:28:13 | |
| Again, dealing with that, our continuing resolution as an agency goes through March 15th. | 00:28:16 | |
| No projection yet as to what they're going to do as far as giving us money to operate beyond that or a government shutdown. | 00:28:24 | |
| So we'll see what happens when that comes around. | 00:28:33 | |
| FSA. | 00:28:37 | |
| As of right now. | 00:28:39 | |
| FSA. | 00:28:41 | |
| Has been bypassed with the firings. | 00:28:43 | |
| But we did have a number of people take the resignation package. | 00:28:46 | |
| Again, they have not released the information to us so. | 00:28:50 | |
| I know locally in my offices I do not have any staff leaving. | 00:28:55 | |
| But I do know in the surrounding area some of the offices have been. | 00:29:00 | |
| Gutted pretty heavily so my staff may be called upon to assist in other offices. | 00:29:04 | |
| But with that being said, we still are rolling forward with the continued farm bill. | 00:29:10 | |
| We have our dairy margin coverage program. | 00:29:16 | |
| Which we're signing up producers for. That runs through March 31st. | 00:29:20 | |
| And then our commodity program, ARC PLC. | 00:29:24 | |
| Has enrollment running to April 15th. | 00:29:28 | |
| So we are working on those two right now. We are also making plans to continue with our spring crop reporting. | 00:29:32 | |
| There has not been any mention of any. | 00:29:39 | |
| New CRP. | 00:29:42 | |
| Activity. | 00:29:45 | |
| Although we have received authority to continue with the CRP, we have. | 00:29:46 | |
| And to make modifications and corrections to any existing contract and get payments out the door. | 00:29:51 | |
| So. | 00:29:58 | |
| With that, does anybody have any questions for me? | 00:29:59 | |
| Does NRCS and final activity impact from this change? These changes people like? | 00:30:03 | |
| I'm not 100% sure. I have not talked to Cory on the Fond du Lac office. | 00:30:08 | |
| Again, if he's hired anybody there. | 00:30:14 | |
| Brand new within the last two years, I would say yes. | 00:30:17 | |
| OK, I know it affected. | 00:30:23 | |
| At least one person. | 00:30:25 | |
| In this office here. | 00:30:27 | |
| In Juneau. | 00:30:28 | |
| I'm not sure about Fond du Lac. | 00:30:30 | |
| I also know that. | 00:30:32 | |
| An engineer they recently hired that used to work for DACCAP out of our office out of Juno. | 00:30:34 | |
| He was terminated. | 00:30:41 | |
| I know for area office we lost five people out of this. All the engineers are gone because they were all new. | 00:30:43 | |
| Some of the wildlife biologists that we hired were gone. | 00:30:50 | |
| And some of the support staff is gone. | 00:30:53 | |
| So I have a question. | 00:30:56 | |
| How did you employees respond to Mrs. Mr. Musk? | 00:30:58 | |
| Request for every employee to state what they did last week. | 00:31:02 | |
| That is currently under review. | 00:31:06 | |
| So John, John Pars, you know, we've got people that depend on these services in our county. | 00:31:11 | |
| And the county's name is associated with. | 00:31:18 | |
| With it, even though it's not us directly. | 00:31:21 | |
| When you have knowledge of something, we have to let everybody know you know what I mean? I don't want someone depending on. | 00:31:25 | |
| Something and then it's not there. | 00:31:32 | |
| Like if you were used to something happening every year and now it's not going to happen. | 00:31:35 | |
| I just don't know how. | 00:31:39 | |
| Is there any discussion among that about people like yourself and the county? From the county's point of view, I just don't want | 00:31:42 | |
| anyone to blame the county for. | 00:31:45 | |
| Federal services cut and they said, well, we didn't know when we depended on it. | 00:31:49 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:31:53 | |
| I know we've worked well with Corey in the past and will continue to work with him as his staff gets cut short. If he needs | 00:31:55 | |
| assistance we'll we'll provide what we can form. | 00:32:00 | |
| I have not talked to Corey lately on this. That's something I intend to do. | 00:32:06 | |
| As far as? | 00:32:12 | |
| The state goes and programs. | 00:32:14 | |
| I got a. | 00:32:18 | |
| A memo from National Association Conservation districts The IRA funds. The Inflation Reduction Act funds. | 00:32:19 | |
| They're going to be honoring existing contracts, but any new contracts, they'll continue to assess them as they come in. | 00:32:29 | |
| Nationwide there was over what they say, 200,000 federal position employees that were terminated. | 00:32:38 | |
| 1000 with NRCS and then they go into the Forest Service and the. | 00:32:47 | |
| Department of Interior with with some more. | 00:32:52 | |
| I I suspect. | 00:32:59 | |
| That this and this is just strictly me. | 00:33:02 | |
| Guessing here. | 00:33:05 | |
| This is an initial knee jerk reaction. We're doing this. | 00:33:08 | |
| But then as these positions fall away. | 00:33:13 | |
| Somebody will come in, start reevaluating like the engineers we rely heavily on those engineers with some of our projects, They're | 00:33:16 | |
| needed, needed positions. | 00:33:21 | |
| But they got cut because they were just recently filled. Had they been there past a certain timeline, they'd still be there. | 00:33:26 | |
| So I suspect going down the road that some of these positions are going to be refilled back. | 00:33:33 | |
| But I don't know when. | 00:33:38 | |
| OK. Any other questions from committee? Matt, have you heard anything? | 00:33:43 | |
| Or get any feelings from our new egg secretary. | 00:33:47 | |
| Is she gonna be? | 00:33:51 | |
| Giving you any indication. | 00:33:52 | |
| On conservation or like these NRCS employees? | 00:33:54 | |
| Is she going to do some reconsiderations, you think, or? | 00:33:58 | |
| I haven't given any indications at all. | 00:34:01 | |
| Umm, if it's any reconsideration at all. And the first round of firings. | 00:34:03 | |
| FSA had a handful of people in the state that were subject. | 00:34:10 | |
| Once approached by the administration, they rescinded that and those people were brought back the next day. | 00:34:15 | |
| FSA. Now this is just FSA, not NRCS. At the national level we have become very divided. | 00:34:22 | |
| FSA has received. | 00:34:28 | |
| Confirmation from administration that we will be temporarily exempt from future firings because we're deemed essential for the | 00:34:31 | |
| administration's. | 00:34:35 | |
| Mission of executing farm programs. | 00:34:39 | |
| The current ones that we have and then some that are subject coming down the road. | 00:34:43 | |
| I I kind of on the same thought as John in regards to NRCS. I think they will. | 00:34:49 | |
| Be more subject to the cuts, but again, due to evaluation down the road they will bring back people. | 00:34:55 | |
| That are in positions that are needed. | 00:35:01 | |
| Because, again, they're just making broad, sweeping cuts right now. | 00:35:04 | |
| And then they'll see what? | 00:35:08 | |
| Comes out of it and they'll come back and fill in what should not have been released. | 00:35:10 | |
| I think their primary. | 00:35:16 | |
| Concern right now with NRCS is the ARPA funding that got put towards the DEA stuff. | 00:35:18 | |
| And making sure that that does not go through. | 00:35:26 | |
| And then they'll reevaluate. | 00:35:29 | |
| Like you said, the funds that are going towards true conservation and staff that was not hired. | 00:35:31 | |
| For the DEA stuff. | 00:35:39 | |
| Ultimately in positions that are needed for the other administration. | 00:35:42 | |
| Theoretically should be brought back. So again, that's all speculation on my part. | 00:35:46 | |
| Don't really know there is. | 00:35:51 | |
| From our standpoint, you guys have just as much information as they give us other than we actually get the e-mail in our inbox | 00:35:53 | |
| that says responder leave. | 00:35:58 | |
| So. | 00:36:03 | |
| That's probably the biggest frustration right now. There is no guidance or. | 00:36:05 | |
| Direction on any of it? | 00:36:09 | |
| Well, the state in communication with John, I mean there may we only meet once a month and we just want to be upfront, honest with | 00:36:11 | |
| all the people we deal with the best, the best we can. I think that's I think what this committee would like. You know, we want to | 00:36:15 | |
| keep the flow of communication going. If you don't have an engineer, you got to tell me we don't have one now. I mean, just be | 00:36:19 | |
| honest. | 00:36:23 | |
| You know, let's just go through this, but I think we need to be honest and communicate. | 00:36:29 | |
| Because there's going to be some. | 00:36:32 | |
| Yeah, well, it's going to be train times and I will pass that along to Corey. Like I said, he wasn't in a hole today bar. | 00:36:34 | |
| The people we deal with, our understanding, it's not us, it's, you know, we're. | 00:36:41 | |
| Part of this, but we want to communicate. | 00:36:45 | |
| Yeah. Well, I know from the producers that we have coming in. | 00:36:48 | |
| All of them are. | 00:36:53 | |
| Very supportive of the work that we do and very appreciative that we have the doors open and. | 00:36:55 | |
| Do the work that we do for them with them. | 00:37:00 | |
| Because of them so. | 00:37:03 | |
| Again. | 00:37:05 | |
| It's going to be trying time going forward. Nobody knows for how long or for what. | 00:37:07 | |
| But we will keep you guys up to speed of the best we can of what's going on. So if we need to help make political arguments and | 00:37:11 | |
| we're the political part of the county government. | 00:37:16 | |
| And it is our job to argue for those things we need, you know what I mean? Advocate for, like you said, engineer. | 00:37:22 | |
| We would be the one that said, hey guys, we need engineers otherwise we cannot deliver the services. I mean, I so I would be. | 00:37:30 | |
| And I suspect we'll learn that at the water conference next week. But Oh yeah, and everyone's gonna be thinking the same thing we | 00:37:36 | |
| are, I can guarantee it. Was constant land, water or all OK? | 00:37:40 | |
| So. | 00:37:46 | |
| Any other questions for me? | 00:37:48 | |
| OK. | 00:37:52 | |
| Thank you. | 00:37:53 | |
| OK. | 00:37:56 | |
| Video. | 00:37:58 | |
| OK. | 00:38:06 | |
| Great. | 00:38:07 | |
| Hello, my name is Matt Krueger. I'm the executive director of Wisconsin Land and Water. This video is part of an informative | 00:38:14 | |
| series for new Land Conservation Committee for LCC members. A refresher for committee members that continue to serve. | 00:38:21 | |
| And will hopefully be beneficial for conservation staff as well. | 00:38:27 | |
| With me today are three seasoned county conservationists who will share their experiences with us as they answer a few questions | 00:38:31 | |
| that I will ask them. | 00:38:34 | |
| Before we begin, I'd like to invite our county cons to please introduce themselves. | 00:38:38 | |
| Hi, I'm Carolyn Scholl. I've been with Vilas County for 18 years. | 00:38:43 | |
| 13 of those years I've served as the. | 00:38:48 | |
| County conservationist and department head. | 00:38:51 | |
| Hello, I'm Paul Daigle. | 00:38:54 | |
| I'm with Marathon County. I've been the land and water program director for. | 00:38:56 | |
| About 10 years. | 00:39:00 | |
| And I've been in the conservation. | 00:39:01 | |
| Field my entire 35 year career. | 00:39:03 | |
| My name is Dan Masterpool. I'm approaching the end of my career. | 00:39:07 | |
| And have had the pleasure to serve as the County Conservationist in Chippewa County for around 37 years. | 00:39:12 | |
| Thank you all for being willing to share your experiences and perspectives with us today. | 00:39:18 | |
| So the first question I'd like to ask you all is what is the single most important piece of advice that you can provide to a new | 00:39:22 | |
| Land conservation Committee or LCC member? | 00:39:27 | |
| Listen to your county conservation staff. | 00:39:32 | |
| And if you don't understand something, be sure to ask questions. | 00:39:35 | |
| Either at the meetings or make an appointment to stop by their office. | 00:39:40 | |
| They're your county's experts in all things conservation. | 00:39:46 | |
| The staff not only have educational backgrounds that coincide with conservation and natural resource management. | 00:39:50 | |
| But they likely have many years of hands on experience and institutional knowledge in their positions. | 00:39:57 | |
| So heed their advice when making your policy decisions. | 00:40:03 | |
| I encourage you to sit down. | 00:40:08 | |
| Get to know your concert pony conservationist. | 00:40:10 | |
| Be curious. | 00:40:13 | |
| Find out their passion what what they want to accomplish. | 00:40:14 | |
| But also find out a way to share your passion. | 00:40:18 | |
| And what you, as a supervisor want to accomplish while you were on the committee and in a position to enact positive change. | 00:40:21 | |
| Schedule time to meet with them on a quarterly basis to check the pace. | 00:40:28 | |
| Find out what's working well. | 00:40:33 | |
| What needs improvement? | 00:40:35 | |
| And how you can help. | 00:40:36 | |
| Each committee member has an important responsibility as assigned. | 00:40:39 | |
| To local effect, local elective officials by Wisconsin Stats, chapter 92. | 00:40:43 | |
| The work you do on the Land Conservation Committee will have a strong bearing. | 00:40:49 | |
| On the local economy and on the quality of the environment where you live now. | 00:40:54 | |
| And it will extend well into the future. | 00:40:58 | |
| In Wisconsin we have a great deal of diversity based upon our local geology and physical setting. | 00:41:01 | |
| Land conservation committees were created to assure that local conservation efforts. | 00:41:08 | |
| Are designed and implemented to meet local needs. | 00:41:13 | |
| In Wisconsin, we use the land and water to produce food, fuel and fiber. | 00:41:18 | |
| Your job, as assigned by the legislature, is to assure the local policies. | 00:41:24 | |
| Programs and rules are in place to provide for sustainable production. | 00:41:29 | |
| And a high quality environment. | 00:41:34 | |
| The local issues of concern and the associated policy and programs. | 00:41:37 | |
| That you use. | 00:41:41 | |
| Are outlined in your county land and water resource management plan. | 00:41:43 | |
| The plan provides A framework and activity schedule. | 00:41:47 | |
| For the county's efforts. | 00:41:51 | |
| And is routinely reviewed and updated every 5 to 10 years. | 00:41:52 | |
| The committee is responsibility is for addressing the policy issues. | 00:41:58 | |
| And preparing budget recommendations. | 00:42:02 | |
| They have a policy rule. | 00:42:05 | |
| The department staff's role. | 00:42:07 | |
| Is for day-to-day operations. They're responsible. | 00:42:09 | |
| For the operations of the department. | 00:42:14 | |
| Working together, it's possible to identify and resolve local issues. | 00:42:18 | |
| To make a difference that will be of direct value to your local community. | 00:42:22 | |
| Thank you for those answers. | 00:42:28 | |
| Moving on to our second question. | 00:42:29 | |
| What is the best way for LCC members to constructively get engaged in the work of the Land Conservation Department? | 00:42:31 | |
| First of all, get engaged. | 00:42:38 | |
| And stay engaged. | 00:42:40 | |
| Nothing motivates staff like having engaged supervisors. | 00:42:42 | |
| They feel support. | 00:42:45 | |
| And that their work matters. | 00:42:47 | |
| Even if you don't agree on every topic. | 00:42:49 | |
| What you want? | 00:42:52 | |
| Let them know you are there for them. | 00:42:53 | |
| Also learn the high points of the long range strategies in the department. | 00:42:56 | |
| And in the county for conservation. | 00:43:00 | |
| Understand the broad initiatives and work. | 00:43:03 | |
| To set and attain those goals. | 00:43:06 | |
| Try not to get involved in the day-to-day operations of your office. | 00:43:09 | |
| We have professional staff that are paid to run an efficient office, effective department. | 00:43:13 | |
| Let them do their jobs. | 00:43:19 | |
| To be constructively engaged in the work of the department, a committee member needs to 1st come up to speed. | 00:43:22 | |
| Generally by way of committee orientation. | 00:43:29 | |
| To learn what the local natural resource management issues are. | 00:43:32 | |
| As defined in your county land and water plan. | 00:43:36 | |
| And how your county is allocating its available resources. | 00:43:38 | |
| To address those issues. | 00:43:42 | |
| The plan is largely operational and defines the services. | 00:43:45 | |
| That are being provided and the work that is being done. | 00:43:49 | |
| As the committee and staff approached the issues. | 00:43:53 | |
| Local resources are always going to be limiting. | 00:43:57 | |
| Staff hours. Skill sets. | 00:44:00 | |
| Time. Umm. | 00:44:03 | |
| Money and good energy. | 00:44:04 | |
| Are what you have to work with. | 00:44:06 | |
| It's up to the staff to conduct the day-to-day operations and to determine how to best. | 00:44:09 | |
| Managing manage the resources and get the job done. | 00:44:14 | |
| Ideally, the committee should be fully engaged. | 00:44:18 | |
| And understand what the department is doing and what services it's providing. | 00:44:22 | |
| It should try to help to advance the scheduled objectives. | 00:44:27 | |
| By way of the committee's budget. | 00:44:33 | |
| And track progress towards achieving scheduled objectives, planned activities. | 00:44:35 | |
| And product deliverables. | 00:44:42 | |
| The routine staff reports. | 00:44:44 | |
| In short, committee members can best be engaged by being informed and being supportive. | 00:44:46 | |
| And then through their engagement to provide a level of public oversight and accountability. | 00:44:52 | |
| By way of constructive feedback. | 00:44:58 | |
| Or suggestions for improvement? | 00:45:00 | |
| I would say expand your network as much as possible. | 00:45:03 | |
| All counties are essentially working towards similar conservation goals. | 00:45:06 | |
| But many times we go about meeting them very differently. | 00:45:10 | |
| By talking to and networking with other people in other counties. | 00:45:14 | |
| You can gain really valuable insight. | 00:45:19 | |
| As to the different conservation topics. | 00:45:21 | |
| Networking is best accomplished by. | 00:45:26 | |
| Participating in regional land and water association meetings. | 00:45:29 | |
| Or volunteering to serve in your Resource Conservation and Development Council. | 00:45:33 | |
| Otherwise known as RC and DS. | 00:45:39 | |
| And last but not least, be sure to attend the annual Wisconsin Land and Water Conference. | 00:45:41 | |
| Because the networking possibilities are endless. | 00:45:47 | |
| Thank you for those answers. | 00:45:52 | |
| And for our final question. | 00:45:54 | |
| What is the best way for an LCC member to develop a functional working relationship with the Land Conservation Department staff? | 00:45:55 | |
| A good functional working relationship between an LCC member and the LCD staff. | 00:46:04 | |
| Should be built upon a foundation of mutual respect. | 00:46:09 | |
| Trust umm. | 00:46:13 | |
| And a solid understanding of the roles and responsibilities of each party. | 00:46:14 | |
| The functional relationship should be used to meet shared public. | 00:46:19 | |
| Goals and objectives. | 00:46:23 | |
| And that of addressing the policy needs of the committee. | 00:46:25 | |
| And the operational needs of the department. | 00:46:29 | |
| In my opinion, this relationship can best be based. | 00:46:32 | |
| Upon a formal professional approach using kind of a. | 00:46:36 | |
| Business based protocol. | 00:46:41 | |
| That's applied to pursue a common set of public objectives. | 00:46:44 | |
| Versus trying to form a personal friendship based relationship. | 00:46:49 | |
| Verbal and written communication should be professional. | 00:46:54 | |
| Cordial and based upon the business needs at hand. | 00:46:58 | |
| They should be short. | 00:47:02 | |
| Clear, uh. | 00:47:03 | |
| Direct and concise. | 00:47:04 | |
| At times, you may experience disagreements with county staff about an issue. | 00:47:07 | |
| Or issues. | 00:47:12 | |
| When this happens, listen to both sides of the issue and respect others points of views. | 00:47:13 | |
| If you find that you do have fundamental differences of opinion about something. | 00:47:20 | |
| Learn how to work together on issues that you can. | 00:47:25 | |
| And agree to respectfully disagree in a friendly way on those other matters. | 00:47:29 | |
| I would encourage you to listen, to understand. | 00:47:35 | |
| Not necessarily reply. | 00:47:38 | |
| Understand the needs of your staff. | 00:47:41 | |
| And how you can help to remove barriers to being efficient and effective. | 00:47:43 | |
| Don't feel like you have to be buddies with staff. | 00:47:48 | |
| But also make sure they know you care. | 00:47:51 | |
| That you want to understand. | 00:47:54 | |
| That you realize they're in conservation because of the passion you have. | 00:47:56 | |
| To conserve the natural resources, not for the money. | 00:48:01 | |
| I want to thank each of you for your participation and thoughtful responses today. | 00:48:05 | |
| For sharing your wisdom with others, and for most of all for your long standing commitment to conservation. | 00:48:08 | |
| I hope that viewers will have learned as much from our brief discussion today as I have. | 00:48:14 | |
| And this concludes the advice for new LCCS from Season County Conservationist Video. | 00:48:18 | |
| Thank you for watching and for the work that you all do is conservation. | 00:48:23 | |
| These videos are several years old. | 00:48:38 | |
| Umm, Carol and Paul are now retired. Dan's the only one still working, and he's not too far away. | 00:48:42 | |
| So. | 00:48:50 | |
| Move on to Chapter 92. | 00:49:00 | |
| 14 Staffing allocation for counties. | 00:49:04 | |
| OK. | 00:49:09 | |
| This this refers to that handout that you sent Andrew. | 00:49:11 | |
| How kind of the this one and the next one, the resource management staffing grant kind of go together. So I'm going to try to | 00:49:15 | |
| explain the staffing grant. | 00:49:19 | |
| I sent a copy to you in the mail. | 00:49:25 | |
| When I get that. | 00:49:29 | |
| There's two parts to it, the actual application and a worksheet that I put together. | 00:49:30 | |
| The worksheet. | 00:49:35 | |
| Goes starts out with each staff member. | 00:49:37 | |
| What their salaries and their benefits are. | 00:49:41 | |
| And chapter 92 states that. | 00:49:45 | |
| The state will attempt. | 00:49:48 | |
| To fund. | 00:49:51 | |
| The first staff 100%. | 00:49:53 | |
| The second one at 75. | 00:49:55 | |
| The third at 50% and all the rest of the staff at 50%. | 00:49:57 | |
| That's what they state. | 00:50:03 | |
| To get that. | 00:50:05 | |
| The state is not getting enough money. | 00:50:07 | |
| Currently in 25. | 00:50:12 | |
| We got 11,240 eleven $1,214,000 for staffing in that. | 00:50:14 | |
| And they should be a little over 15,000,000 to be able to fill them first three positions. | 00:50:21 | |
| So in 2025. | 00:50:27 | |
| We receive a staffing grant of $157,000. | 00:50:30 | |
| If they funded the first three positions the way Chapter 92 states. | 00:50:35 | |
| We were getting beginning somewhere around $230,000. | 00:50:40 | |
| If they funded all the positions. | 00:50:45 | |
| It would be like $325,000 is what we would be getting. | 00:50:48 | |
| Wisconsin Land and Water has been advocating for them that funding. | 00:50:54 | |
| For as long as I can remember. | 00:50:59 | |
| Excuse me? | 00:51:02 | |
| And it changes every year. | 00:51:03 | |
| From in 2023 we got 176,000. | 00:51:06 | |
| And 24 it dropped down to 151,000. | 00:51:11 | |
| The main reason for that change is. | 00:51:15 | |
| I dropped my health insurance. I'm on Tricare through the military. | 00:51:18 | |
| And one of my other. | 00:51:22 | |
| Past employees went from family insurance to a single insurance. | 00:51:24 | |
| So. | 00:51:29 | |
| Next year when I when I fill out my application I am. | 00:51:31 | |
| Using. | 00:51:36 | |
| Last year's salaries and benefits. | 00:51:37 | |
| Filling it out today. | 00:51:41 | |
| For funding. | 00:51:43 | |
| For 2026. | 00:51:44 | |
| So that's kind of how this works. | 00:51:47 | |
| So on 26. | 00:51:49 | |
| This should go up a little bit. | 00:51:52 | |
| But in 27. | 00:51:55 | |
| It's going to change. | 00:51:57 | |
| Because we have a new staff member, had one leave and we had a new staff member. | 00:51:58 | |
| And you're going to have my replacement. | 00:52:02 | |
| So. | 00:52:04 | |
| Salary and insurance is going to play. | 00:52:05 | |
| Difference in it, so it changes every year. | 00:52:09 | |
| Would it be OK if I stop for a moment and talk politics? OK the WCA? | 00:52:12 | |
| We we lobby for different things over the counties on the top five. | 00:52:17 | |
| Five things is this conservation? That's all. It's like the top of our lobbying list of what we're doing. So I lobbied. | 00:52:21 | |
| About. | 00:52:28 | |
| I was about 3 weeks ago for the county. I had Johnson give me preparation. What does this mean? | 00:52:30 | |
| In our county, what he was saying for 25, the state will reimburse us 157,000 and we kind of note about this over the years. | 00:52:36 | |
| OK. But they're supposed to reimburse us 321,000. That's what they're supposed to do according to the statute? | 00:52:44 | |
| So what that means is that our county board is covering the difference. | 00:52:50 | |
| By a lot. | 00:52:55 | |
| And I just wanted you to be aware of that, that our county board is paying like the difference between 1:57 and 3:21. | 00:52:56 | |
| In the state is supposed to be paying these positions. | 00:53:03 | |
| And so I just want to make sure you were aware that. So our position is the WCA is, hey, you guys need to fund what the statute | 00:53:07 | |
| says you're supposed to fund. That is our position so that the county board would put less of our. | 00:53:14 | |
| You know our local tax levy in it and it would come from the state. | 00:53:21 | |
| And and what that also kind of and I also included the WCA lobby sheets and that's what he referred to. | 00:53:27 | |
| That right now it's only like 11 for the whole state. It's like $11 million. | 00:53:34 | |
| They're putting in and I think it's closer to 20 is what, almost twice as much, right, What they really want. | 00:53:39 | |
| Yeah, that's what they that's what we're asking for. So that just so you kind of so if you hear WCA and lobbying and there's this | 00:53:45 | |
| is one of our top issues. This is what what we're talking about. | 00:53:50 | |
| And when you're talking, you know, I was talking to, so I talked to Mark, we have. | 00:53:56 | |
| I think there was 6 or 7 legislatures and when I go to Madison with Dave Proline and with our, with our team with Kim and then the | 00:54:01 | |
| legislators all line up and then we say like, like, like this year we want more court funding, you know, because like the courts | 00:54:07 | |
| don't, we're not funded all the way to the state like we're supposed to. Then I would present, I presented this argument then to | 00:54:12 | |
| these guys just so you just so you kind of know about our county and said, hey. | 00:54:18 | |
| We really need you to step up and start following the statute. So I just want you to I thought you'd like to be aware that's like | 00:54:24 | |
| this is particularly what. | 00:54:28 | |
| What we're doing and I had, John had prepared this for me, so I knew to the dollar what I was asking for. It was pretty good. So | 00:54:32 | |
| thank you, John for doing that. | 00:54:36 | |
| But just so you kind of know that the county board is covering that. And then I know John in another comment. | 00:54:40 | |
| With upcoming decisions. | 00:54:46 | |
| With people that want to get funds from us and you said our budget outside of Labor is really only like. | 00:54:49 | |
| $30,000 of discretion or it's really small, isn't it? Correct. That's how small her budget is. It's like third grade. | 00:54:54 | |
| It's that small. | 00:55:02 | |
| Yeah, so pay for supplies, fuel, maintenance. | 00:55:03 | |
| Registrations to conferences, yeah, that it's. | 00:55:08 | |
| So if anyone asks us for money beyond. | 00:55:12 | |
| What we have, we really have to go to the county board. We don't have like, umm. | 00:55:16 | |
| A bunch of extra money around. I just wanted you to be aware that we would not have that ability. | 00:55:22 | |
| After the meeting, after it was very discouraging After, after the meeting. | 00:55:28 | |
| Mark Bourne came up to me and. | 00:55:33 | |
| Said Andrew. You gave a great arguments. | 00:55:35 | |
| Of course he's on that. You know, he's the the Co chairman of the Finance Committee and he said it would. | 00:55:37 | |
| Not to your surprises, but unlikely that we would get funded. | 00:55:43 | |
| Letter of state statute. Just a guide. | 00:55:48 | |
| That is a. | 00:55:50 | |
| You got it man. | 00:55:53 | |
| OK, you got what we're thinking. Yeah, I. | 00:55:56 | |
| The language says shall attempt, say, will. | 00:55:59 | |
| And says shall attend. Are they getting by? And I've looked back. | 00:56:03 | |
| In history. | 00:56:07 | |
| From previous versions of it, and it's said that for quite a while. | 00:56:09 | |
| So they said, they did say at the end of the. | 00:56:14 | |
| When I went, my lobbying turned. They did say they would try to give more for the courts. | 00:56:18 | |
| But you know, you hear all this bickering in in. | 00:56:23 | |
| You know about money and they're talking, you know? | 00:56:26 | |
| Hundreds of millions of dollars and for the whole state of Wisconsin we only need like 8,000,000 more or something. It's not like | 00:56:29 | |
| a huge amount for every conservation department in this state. | 00:56:33 | |
| It's not a big amount of money in the context of our state budget. You know, I know this is a reach, but you know what the turmoil | 00:56:38 | |
| go on in NRCS. | 00:56:41 | |
| There could be a void there that. | 00:56:46 | |
| Was there previously, it may not be there in the future. | 00:56:48 | |
| There may be a slight possibility that. | 00:56:51 | |
| The feds would rather give the money to the state for conservation. | 00:56:54 | |
| I mean, I just want them to be ready if that does. | 00:56:58 | |
| Happen. | 00:57:01 | |
| Yeah, we just keep the communication lines open in. | 00:57:05 | |
| But the point I wanted to bring this up to date, have John explained this because he had the worksheet and we're going to fill it | 00:57:10 | |
| out, but I wanted to explain it to you so you understood. So when someone comes here and says I want money from you. | 00:57:15 | |
| So you realize that the county board is covering us right now? | 00:57:22 | |
| We're not. We don't have like extra money or hanging around here. | 00:57:26 | |
| John runs a really I know, but you need to but I just want the county this committee to realize that it's not new recently, but it | 00:57:29 | |
| but I wanted you to know how short it was. | 00:57:34 | |
| How short it was and how small our budget really is. I just wanted you to be aware I wasn't. I've been on the committee for | 00:57:39 | |
| several years. I didn't realize it was that much. | 00:57:43 | |
| So that that that's, that's what I wanted to communicate with you guys. So. | 00:57:48 | |
| All right. Thank you, John. Yeah. The only other thing I have is, like I said, for funding for 2025. | 00:57:53 | |
| Currently statewide it's 11.2 million. | 00:57:59 | |
| In the governor's proposed budget. | 00:58:02 | |
| It's 15.1 million and 26 and 15.6 million and 27. | 00:58:05 | |
| But. | 00:58:11 | |
| That was very similar to last year and it got cut out, so we'll see what happens. | 00:58:11 | |
| OK. | 00:58:18 | |
| So move on to the we'll need a motion for the next one to approve the Soil and Water Resource Management grant applications. So. | 00:58:20 | |
| You want to tell us then what you did here and. | 00:58:27 | |
| OK, Andrew has the grant application. Like I said I fill out the worksheet that pre populates part of the application. | 00:58:31 | |
| And then the other part, I got to go in and I got to look at total county expenditures. | 00:58:38 | |
| And. | 00:58:44 | |
| Tony. | 00:58:45 | |
| Revenues that come in. | 00:58:49 | |
| And then the very last page. | 00:58:52 | |
| Yeah yes we have 6 full time employees, so 6FT ES. | 00:58:55 | |
| And then I calculate. | 00:59:00 | |
| How much FTE is actually paid through this grant that we're applying for, and I can't remember offhand. It's 1.4 something's on | 00:59:02 | |
| the very last page. | 00:59:08 | |
| 1.44. | 00:59:14 | |
| Debt cap in total of 6 Yeah 4.6 for the county. | 00:59:16 | |
| Yeah. And then the annual work plan is also part of that application. We have to fill that out every year and I included that in | 00:59:20 | |
| your packet. | 00:59:25 | |
| That kind of shows our priorities and our goals that we're going to be doing in different areas. | 00:59:29 | |
| For 2025. | 00:59:35 | |
| OK. Any questions on this application? | 00:59:38 | |
| Because we need to vote on it. | 00:59:42 | |
| OK, I need a motion to approve. | 00:59:44 | |
| The Soil and water resource management grant application in any work plan. | 00:59:47 | |
| Also move. | 00:59:51 | |
| OK, John. | 00:59:52 | |
| John, first, we need a second. OK, Dale, second. | 00:59:53 | |
| Any further discussion on the? | 00:59:57 | |
| Application. | 00:59:59 | |
| Hearing none, those favor say aye aye and those opposed. | 01:00:01 | |
| OK, passes and I'll sign this then and we'll get that going. Then we've got one other thing. Go ahead and the cancellation notice. | 01:00:05 | |
| John, this next one, Yeah, this individual last name is Conrad. | 01:00:12 | |
| They got out of the farmland preservation program. | 01:00:17 | |
| And now want to get back into it. So we've checked things over and they meet the requirements for it. | 01:00:20 | |
| So this is a cancellation of their notice of non compliance. | 01:00:28 | |
| So I need board approval to. | 01:00:33 | |
| To be approval to send that into the state, do we need a motion to? | 01:00:35 | |
| Issue a cancellation notice of non compliance to farmland preservation program. So reinstate this person right state them. | 01:00:39 | |
| I'll make a motion. OK. Ken makes a motion. We need a second. | 01:00:47 | |
| I'll second, OK. | 01:00:50 | |
| Then second. | 01:00:52 | |
| Any discussion on this? | 01:00:53 | |
| Hearing none, those in favor signify by saying aye. | 01:00:56 | |
| Aye, unanimously passed. | 01:01:00 | |
| OK. We have update on the Rock River Flood group occasionally there's communications to John and. | 01:01:06 | |
| Yeah, what we've been doing is. | 01:01:13 | |
| They came here a few months ago asking for money and you guys put it off until. | 01:01:17 | |
| May I think it is up for the agenda to make a final decision. | 01:01:21 | |
| So I've been talking to other organizations. | 01:01:25 | |
| NRCS is one of them. | 01:01:29 | |
| To try to find out. | 01:01:31 | |
| Other than giving them money. | 01:01:34 | |
| To their initial ask was for engineering and lawyer fees. | 01:01:37 | |
| Is there something else our department can do on a larger watershed scale that will have an effect? | 01:01:42 | |
| On on their concerns down there. | 01:01:50 | |
| In talking with NRCS. | 01:01:54 | |
| They have programs. | 01:01:57 | |
| That are available. | 01:01:59 | |
| After the fact. | 01:02:01 | |
| You get a flood. It has destruction on fields, buildings, whatever. They have programs to help cost share some of the repairs for | 01:02:03 | |
| that. | 01:02:07 | |
| I talked to. | 01:02:13 | |
| Dat cap Department of AG and he's going to be. | 01:02:14 | |
| Checking with a couple other state DNR water. | 01:02:18 | |
| People. Umm. | 01:02:22 | |
| And hopefully we'll be meeting here in the next few weeks. | 01:02:23 | |
| To find out on their side, is there something on the larger water scale that we can do? | 01:02:28 | |
| I know. | 01:02:33 | |
| There are two. | 01:02:36 | |
| Interns with UW Madison that will be helping this group. | 01:02:37 | |
| And they'll be doing more like on on hydrology studies in the watershed, looking at things like that. | 01:02:42 | |
| So I've been out talking to other people trying to figure out. | 01:02:49 | |
| What is there that? | 01:02:52 | |
| Our department and things that we do that we can actually help them with. | 01:02:54 | |
| So I'm looking at that. | 01:02:58 | |
| We have another meeting set for April 9th. | 01:03:00 | |
| To kind of bring everybody up to speed and to introduce the two interns from UW Madison. | 01:03:05 | |
| Andrew called me the other day. He had a meeting with the Lake Sissippi District. | 01:03:12 | |
| And there are some things said there. So I did call Shane back and talk to him. | 01:03:18 | |
| In fact, the. | 01:03:23 | |
| Engineer Rob Montgomery for that group that gave you presentation a couple months ago. | 01:03:25 | |
| He's coming here. | 01:03:31 | |
| Wednesday this week and he and I are going to go out. | 01:03:32 | |
| Every lake has a. | 01:03:37 | |
| Elevation they play within. | 01:03:39 | |
| And historically, Lake Ms. would do a drawdown to that low level. | 01:03:41 | |
| In late February, March. | 01:03:48 | |
| But this year, because of the conversations with the farmer group, they started doing it the first part of December. | 01:03:51 | |
| They've had a lot of major ice. He's. | 01:03:59 | |
| On the West side. | 01:04:03 | |
| That has. | 01:04:05 | |
| Pushed all their. | 01:04:06 | |
| RIP rap. | 01:04:08 | |
| Shoreline protection. | 01:04:09 | |
| Up in the lawns. | 01:04:10 | |
| That. | 01:04:12 | |
| Typically would not have happened if they hadn't done the drawdown soon. | 01:04:13 | |
| That soon, So Rob's coming out on Wednesday and he and I are going to go out and take a look at that to see. | 01:04:17 | |
| Exactly what the extent of it really is. | 01:04:23 | |
| So that we can go back to that group and say OK. | 01:04:26 | |
| We, we started doing this because that's what you requested. Well. | 01:04:29 | |
| Now these are the effects that's taking place on on all these houses. | 01:04:34 | |
| Around the lake. | 01:04:38 | |
| Umm, this is not. | 01:04:39 | |
| Going to be an easy fix by any means. I think there's a lot more involved here than just the control of dams. | 01:04:43 | |
| And unfortunately. | 01:04:51 | |
| The individuals that started this group. | 01:04:53 | |
| Don't really want to look at anything other than the dams. | 01:04:57 | |
| So I get a question is I'm kind of new to this because this just looks like it's going to be a mess, yeah, or is a mess and it's | 01:05:01 | |
| going to be a bigger mess. | 01:05:04 | |
| So the. | 01:05:09 | |
| The people that. | 01:05:10 | |
| Belong to the Rock River flood group that you know the the people that were here. | 01:05:13 | |
| What land is flooding? Is that actually in the floodplain of the Rock River? Is it over and above the floodplain of the Rock | 01:05:18 | |
| River? | 01:05:21 | |
| It's both. | 01:05:25 | |
| It's both. | 01:05:26 | |
| The issue isn't the flooding. The flooding has always occurred. | 01:05:28 | |
| The issue is the duration of the flooding. | 01:05:34 | |
| Instead of flooding for two weeks. | 01:05:37 | |
| It might be flooded for 2 1/2 three months. | 01:05:39 | |
| I've seen the Rock River on Hwy. 60 by Houston's Ford. | 01:05:42 | |
| Out of its banks almost all summer long at times. | 01:05:47 | |
| So it's the duration of the flooding that's occurring. | 01:05:51 | |
| When we get normal rainfalls. | 01:05:55 | |
| Majority that will infiltrate into the ground. | 01:05:58 | |
| But when you get them. | 01:06:01 | |
| Intense rains where you get 2 inches in an hour or five inches. | 01:06:02 | |
| In half a day. | 01:06:08 | |
| Majority that water is going to run off. | 01:06:10 | |
| And it's not going to infiltrate in, it just can't. | 01:06:13 | |
| And when you continue to get that rain after rain after rain, that ground is saturated, it's not going anywhere but running off. | 01:06:16 | |
| Every time you put up a House of pole barn, a parking lot. | 01:06:24 | |
| You got water running off versus infiltrating. | 01:06:30 | |
| And there is a ton of tile lines that have gone in. | 01:06:34 | |
| That. | 01:06:39 | |
| Extends the duration of that water flow. | 01:06:40 | |
| Because the water is high at tile lines doing nothing, but as that water line goes down, now it's draining all this field that was | 01:06:45 | |
| totally saturated. | 01:06:49 | |
| So that's extending it. | 01:06:54 | |
| So there's a lot of things going into this. It's not one thing. | 01:06:56 | |
| OK, yeah, I just. | 01:07:02 | |
| Because it just seems to me it's just like the flooding. Well, you know, we can't control A5 inch rain in two hours, no. | 01:07:04 | |
| I mean, I can see other watersheds and I you normally have flood and. | 01:07:10 | |
| Cropland gets flooded out and everything gets flooded. It'll stay for two or three weeks, I mean. | 01:07:14 | |
| 5 inches of rain and 1/2 hour it's 5 inches of rain. You know it's. | 01:07:18 | |
| So I was just kind of curious, that's all. | 01:07:23 | |
| There's a little confusion on my partner exactly what the issue is. So thank you for do they ever mention, you know, do they have | 01:07:25 | |
| crop insurance and. | 01:07:30 | |
| If they have prevent plant and I know if you do that what 3 out of five then you're ineligible anymore, you can't apply anymore. | 01:07:35 | |
| So as anybody said that. | 01:07:40 | |
| That was an issue for any farmers. I have not heard that conversation at all. | 01:07:44 | |
| I know they continually talk about. | 01:07:50 | |
| Mature trees that are dying because of the flooding. | 01:07:52 | |
| In their in their lower lands. | 01:07:56 | |
| I've gotten phone calls from a guy that bought land for deer hunting and he can't hunt it because it's always in water. | 01:08:00 | |
| You know it's better off for duck hunt and deer, Hun. | 01:08:06 | |
| But you know. | 01:08:09 | |
| When you buy land that are in those areas. | 01:08:10 | |
| You got to understand that risk. I guess that's where it's coming from my question. I mean it, you know. | 01:08:14 | |
| Yeah, and. | 01:08:20 | |
| I've been here for 30 years. The the. | 01:08:22 | |
| The other main farmer that's and I'm not sure he's really a farmer, He's a, he owns land there. | 01:08:25 | |
| That side Rd. | 01:08:31 | |
| Has had farm gates on it ever since I've been here to. When the water gets high the road is closed off. | 01:08:33 | |
| You know, and he lives on that road. | 01:08:40 | |
| So he. | 01:08:42 | |
| Bought a house knowing that initially. | 01:08:43 | |
| In the first place. | 01:08:45 | |
| But I am looking, I am having conversations, I am looking at other things that that our department can do that. | 01:08:48 | |
| Will help mitigate it, but it's not going to fix it just like that. | 01:08:56 | |
| No, you mentioned the ice and Beaver Dam is a dangerous ice conditions. Now it'll go from a foot in one area to zero and others 10 | 01:09:02 | |
| vehicles, ATVs and. | 01:09:07 | |
| Somerville's grind through the ice this year. | 01:09:13 | |
| I'm not sure what happened this weekend. So we've seen is the January winds, prevailing winds of South, southwest. | 01:09:15 | |
| The Mill. | 01:09:23 | |
| From Beaver from Fox Lake is still flowing water on. | 01:09:25 | |
| Yeah, and we're seeing a freeze thaw. | 01:09:28 | |
| Half dozen times, January and February. | 01:09:31 | |
| So every time that happens, it jacks up the ice. | 01:09:33 | |
| And then also we're seeing. | 01:09:36 | |
| The open water. | 01:09:38 | |
| It never gets a chance to freeze even it's very, very cold weather. We've had the wind pressure keeps that moving to the north, | 01:09:39 | |
| so. | 01:09:43 | |
| Those north and northeast shores on that lake. | 01:09:46 | |
| Have impacted by that fetch. | 01:09:50 | |
| So it's really a interesting season, let's say. | 01:09:53 | |
| I thought Dave out there at the one property. | 01:09:56 | |
| The North and idle hour. | 01:09:59 | |
| Yeah, yeah. We had a resident call us that had some. | 01:10:01 | |
| Ripper app destroyed and he wants to redo it. | 01:10:06 | |
| And I think Dave worked with him. | 01:10:10 | |
| Years ago on the Beaver Dam watershed, too. | 01:10:12 | |
| OK. | 01:10:18 | |
| Thank you for the update and I have a little more to say about it my report for LSID. | 01:10:20 | |
| All right, discussed possible research on the county's airport farm update. I know there's not much on this, but. | 01:10:27 | |
| No, I'm gonna keep this on as an item on every agenda until we figure out what exactly what's gonna happen. | 01:10:32 | |
| The farmer LED group had a soil health Expo here in town the first part of this month, February. | 01:10:39 | |
| And they always hand out a survey. | 01:10:46 | |
| One of the questions on that survey was. | 01:10:49 | |
| If we were to start a research plot on this farm, what would you be interested in? | 01:10:52 | |
| So I'm waiting for the results to come that back come back from that I should be getting them. | 01:10:57 | |
| Tomorrow we have a. | 01:11:03 | |
| Annual meeting that. | 01:11:06 | |
| One member of the farm of that group and a collaborator, which is Dodge County. | 01:11:08 | |
| Has to go to an annual meeting every year. | 01:11:12 | |
| So, umm. | 01:11:14 | |
| The group that. | 01:11:16 | |
| They have hired. | 01:11:19 | |
| To facilitate all these questionnaires will be. | 01:11:21 | |
| Turning all that stuff over to us tomorrow. | 01:11:24 | |
| Well, yeah, it said. Because they're they're no longer hired with them anymore, but. | 01:11:29 | |
| She said it was going to be on a flash drive, so. | 01:11:33 | |
| OK, Now probably the most important business of the day. | 01:11:40 | |
| Yes, we have a new county. | 01:11:44 | |
| Administrative support specialist for the department. | 01:11:46 | |
| Cheryl Lowery. | 01:11:49 | |
| Started with us a couple weeks ago. | 01:11:51 | |
| She's getting her feet wet. She's learning things that she's never done before and is doing. | 01:11:55 | |
| Doing their job. | 01:12:01 | |
| Welcome, Cheryl. | 01:12:03 | |
| Thank you. | 01:12:04 | |
| Look forward to working with you. | 01:12:06 | |
| Look forward to it too. | 01:12:08 | |
| We'll try to be clear. | 01:12:09 | |
| And don't feel, don't be afraid to instruct us as Becky did and give us instruction as to what we need to do and. | 01:12:12 | |
| Sounds good, all right. | 01:12:19 | |
| Because I know she had me like send my water, my reports to her at a time because she said. | 01:12:21 | |
| You know, like our, you know, like the reports we do for the Lake District. She always wanted me to e-mail on the head. | 01:12:26 | |
| To her so that maybe that's something you want to do. You have a do you have a different e-mail? I suppose it's different right | 01:12:31 | |
| slightly. | 01:12:33 | |
| Maybe get it to us or her E Nos just she Lowry at Dodge County, OK. | 01:12:36 | |
| All right, LO H ry. | 01:12:43 | |
| You want to tell us a little bit about yourself? | 01:12:46 | |
| If you can right, is that OK Committee? Is that OK we ever? | 01:12:48 | |
| OK. | 01:13:04 | |
| Hi, so I actually am from Marcozan. | 01:13:04 | |
| So grew up raised there. | 01:13:09 | |
| Have a lot of office experience. | 01:13:13 | |
| Probably well over. | 01:13:16 | |
| 20 years of office experience. | 01:13:17 | |
| I have knowledge of meetings and how they ran as well I worked. | 01:13:20 | |
| Actually. | 01:13:25 | |
| The deputy city clerk for the city of Beaver Dam for 3 1/2 years. So that's where somebody may have recognized me from, but. | 01:13:26 | |
| Yeah, other than that. | 01:13:34 | |
| Interesting to learn about the land and water conservation and learning some more. I have a little bit of farm experience. My | 01:13:36 | |
| parents were farmers growing up. | 01:13:40 | |
| My husband. | 01:13:44 | |
| Is actually a male caller, so. | 01:13:46 | |
| I have a little knowledge there as well. | 01:13:49 | |
| If I tend to listen to him. | 01:13:51 | |
| You know. | 01:13:53 | |
| But other than that, we have one daughter. | 01:13:54 | |
| So yeah, she's going to college already and. | 01:13:59 | |
| Yeah, very proud of her. She's going in for a radiology. | 01:14:03 | |
| Becky is helping you a little bit far as Becky still comes back and helps a little bit of training and that's really helpful. | 01:14:07 | |
| There's a lot of it'll take us like a couple cycles to go through to. | 01:14:11 | |
| You know when things happen in the details and. | 01:14:16 | |
| There's a lot to it. | 01:14:20 | |
| Yeah, and I'm really looking forward to learning more about the land and water conservations, the different programs and there's | 01:14:21 | |
| busy times and slow times and you got to figure that out. That's I know it's it's just incredibly different all of a sudden, like | 01:14:28 | |
| you don't feel like you have any to do. And then it'll come like there'll be so much do you can't believe it. | 01:14:35 | |
| Just the end portion of the trees though. | 01:14:43 | |
| Well, welcome and. | 01:14:46 | |
| It's a critical position be I mean our department is so small that you, you are the face of the department. You know, we talked | 01:14:48 | |
| earlier about. | 01:14:52 | |
| Doing surveys but. | 01:14:55 | |
| Think it's going to be you're the 1 John John's there too, but you're the one that people see walk in the door. You're the you're | 01:14:57 | |
| the one that helps coordinate the. | 01:15:00 | |
| All the guys on the road and. | 01:15:04 | |
| So very, very critical position from our point of view. So thank you so much for coming. | 01:15:06 | |
| You're welcome. I'm very happy to be here. All right. Any other questions from the committee? | 01:15:11 | |
| All right. Thank you. | 01:15:16 | |
| You're welcome. | 01:15:18 | |
| All right, update on the well testing that's. | 01:15:23 | |
| Up and coming and yeah. | 01:15:26 | |
| The results are in. I don't have the results back. I'm going to pull up something. I did get the final bill on it. | 01:15:29 | |
| And I want to tell you. | 01:15:36 | |
| How we lined up as compared to the original. | 01:15:38 | |
| Agreement. | 01:15:42 | |
| Actually of the five year agreement we came in under. | 01:15:46 | |
| Under what was originally budgeted. | 01:15:49 | |
| The original budget was $174,820 and with the final bill that came in at 164,372. | 01:15:57 | |
| So just over. | 01:16:08 | |
| Just over $10,000. | 01:16:11 | |
| Less than what we originally planned. | 01:16:13 | |
| And next month? | 01:16:17 | |
| The. | 01:16:20 | |
| Wednesday the 19th at 7:00 PM. | 01:16:21 | |
| We'll have a. | 01:16:25 | |
| Presentation Kevin will be here for presentation. | 01:16:27 | |
| To the owners that have been going through this program, you're more than welcome to attend that if you'd like to. | 01:16:30 | |
| At that meeting when that's. | 01:16:37 | |
| Before or after? Then I'll talk to him as far as when he thinks he'll have his. | 01:16:39 | |
| Final summary done to present to you guys so that we can make decisions on what we want to do for in the future. | 01:16:45 | |
| So the timeline. | 01:16:54 | |
| Umm, so this is the this is your 5, right? Your 5. | 01:16:56 | |
| So the timeline to. | 01:17:01 | |
| They'll come and talk to us and then if we decide as a committee we want the program to continue for another. | 01:17:03 | |
| Five years or whatever. | 01:17:09 | |
| Then we would have to bring this. You're thinking a county board like July is that we're thinking maybe or OK, and then we would | 01:17:11 | |
| have him come give his report. | 01:17:16 | |
| And and then. | 01:17:21 | |
| They'll have to decide whether they they wouldn't necessarily make a resolution at that time, but it would be for consideration in | 01:17:23 | |
| the in the budget for 26, right, right, right. That's how that would. | 01:17:28 | |
| Does that come then within this department? Is that how the money so or is it a separate line? | 01:17:34 | |
| Yeah, it's just appropriate through our department. | 01:17:40 | |
| OK, yeah. Umm. | 01:17:43 | |
| We I put it in the budget and it's there, but it comes from the tax levy. | 01:17:44 | |
| OK. | 01:17:49 | |
| All right. | 01:17:51 | |
| All right, poster contest. | 01:17:54 | |
| Although he had the area judging, I sent 4 posters to the area judging. | 01:17:57 | |
| One of them placed third and only the first place will go on to state at the conference next week. So. | 01:18:04 | |
| So we did OK. | 01:18:11 | |
| You know, they had some really nice ones there. | 01:18:13 | |
| So we had So how many are going to be there? Like when they hang up the posters? How many are from Dodge County then? Just not. | 01:18:16 | |
| They don't have any at the state this year. Well, we don't have any. Its name. | 01:18:20 | |
| OK. | 01:18:26 | |
| OK, down to committee reports and I'll do LSID. | 01:18:29 | |
| We are far as a native plant sale. We work with the whole friends of Oregon Marsh, the LSID and we met, yeah, we met on. | 01:18:34 | |
| 2/11/25 this month. | 01:18:44 | |
| And our first order of business was we do a native plant sale and this year we're going to increase. | 01:18:48 | |
| To households that participate in this will give them up to 40 bucks. So if they buy a flat of plants, the LSID will give them 40 | 01:18:53 | |
| bucks towards those plants. | 01:18:58 | |
| As far as lake management plan. | 01:19:04 | |
| We had five company, we had a meeting where five companies came expressed interest in in the proposal for the feasibility study | 01:19:07 | |
| for the dredging project up near Oxbow Marine. | 01:19:11 | |
| What's going to happen is. | 01:19:18 | |
| In the next couple, I think next week or two, the. | 01:19:21 | |
| The proposals are due and at our next month's meeting we will be reviewing the proposals and an approving 1. | 01:19:24 | |
| They'll probably be somewhere between 20 and $50,000 in that in that range. | 01:19:31 | |
| And that'll be they'll be ready for annual meeting that for this coming August. And that's. | 01:19:35 | |
| A proposal to make a plan to do the dredging project. The dredging project is in the millions of dollars, but it's going to show | 01:19:40 | |
| us like a pathway or how to do this. | 01:19:44 | |
| We did not get the $10,000 grant that we applied for for for the project. | 01:19:49 | |
| And then Shane. | 01:19:56 | |
| Kamer is is. He's a leader at LSA and LSID. | 01:19:59 | |
| He's an effective leader, and he and Chad Butler, LSA president, they talked at our meeting about the issue. | 01:20:05 | |
| With the. | 01:20:15 | |
| The flood group and. | 01:20:17 | |
| Interestingly, they thought. | 01:20:20 | |
| Mistakenly, Chad and I had called John to tell him this. Immediately, Chad assumed that the county was part of in supporting the | 01:20:23 | |
| position of this group. | 01:20:26 | |
| Because they had a meeting in this room and John was here and so they said, we assume that the county is fully supporting them. | 01:20:31 | |
| In their political position and I corrected them there and said that is not true. We allow them to use our building and we will do | 01:20:37 | |
| what we can, but does not mean that the county is supportive of their political position. So I just pay that crystal clear. | 01:20:45 | |
| Shane advocates that the county should be a neutral position that we should not be supporting to land owners. | 01:20:53 | |
| Against the 700 LSID. | 01:20:59 | |
| Because that's the way they view it. There's 700 members of the people on the lake there and they feel that. | 01:21:02 | |
| Their opposite ends. | 01:21:08 | |
| It got rather heated. | 01:21:10 | |
| And I told John that if if necessary, we should invite Shane to come and speak. | 01:21:12 | |
| Umm, when we hear arguments in May so that you hear another's point of view, so. | 01:21:22 | |
| And I don't know whether he will or not, but their position is, is that the county should be neutral. | 01:21:27 | |
| On this. | 01:21:32 | |
| And then just for your information, on Saturday, April 12th, there's the Mud and Chubb Tourney. | 01:21:34 | |
| From the Wisconsin Bowman Fishing Association. I don't know if they go on Beaver Dam Lee. | 01:21:42 | |
| Or Fox Lake, I don't know if they go. That's where they bring the big air boats and they go in the middle of the night. | 01:21:46 | |
| With they sound like jet engines and they have the big lights and then the bowlmen do their Boeing and everyone's calling the | 01:21:52 | |
| Sheriff's Department like what in the world is going on because it. | 01:21:57 | |
| They put their big lights on people's houses that live, you know. Anyway, just give everyone warning that'll happen on April 12th | 01:22:02 | |
| last year. | 01:22:05 | |
| A lot of commotion. | 01:22:10 | |
| So just to let everyone know. | 01:22:11 | |
| That's it for my report. | 01:22:13 | |
| So go ahead. | 01:22:15 | |
| I guess Bill. | 01:22:16 | |
| We did receive the surface water grants at $20,000. | 01:22:18 | |
| We were 12 and 13 out of 40, so that's very. | 01:22:23 | |
| Highly sought after. | 01:22:26 | |
| We'll use those funds to support the UW WR program. | 01:22:28 | |
| And their objectives are to perform a. | 01:22:32 | |
| Water quality analysis for the past 10 years. | 01:22:34 | |
| And look at the shoreline and the westward side of the lake. | 01:22:38 | |
| That is primarily a native shoreline. | 01:22:42 | |
| And see what we need to do to protect it so stays in that condition. | 01:22:45 | |
| We received the report from the DNR for their Electro fishing in October on Trestle Bay. | 01:22:50 | |
| They found that that Bay had 606 lbs of rough fish per acre. | 01:22:56 | |
| Fish and Wildlife identified that the target should be £89 per acre. | 01:23:02 | |
| And over £268 per acre. | 01:23:07 | |
| Is considered severe damage to a habitat. | 01:23:09 | |
| So we're twice as much for severe habitat damage. | 01:23:12 | |
| And six times, of course, 7 times. | 01:23:17 | |
| For the target amount. | 01:23:19 | |
| We've been working with the in our fishery now for better part of six years to put a plan together. | 01:23:22 | |
| To manage. | 01:23:28 | |
| And that began back in 2020. | 01:23:30 | |
| And we thought we had a pretty good Beaver Creek targeted watershed assessment of prepared. | 01:23:33 | |
| And approved by DNR. | 01:23:39 | |
| What we found in 2022. | 01:23:41 | |
| That the DNR fishery doesn't have to follow that plan. | 01:23:44 | |
| So in 2023, the fish biologists in Horican. | 01:23:48 | |
| Prepared an independent plan that could be executed. | 01:23:52 | |
| That spring and summer. | 01:23:55 | |
| And with her departure to another county, that fell apart. | 01:23:58 | |
| So in 2024 we started working with the DNR again to have an agreement put together. | 01:24:02 | |
| To have a comprehensive roughfish plan across Beaver Dam, lake and watershed. | 01:24:07 | |
| December we completed that and they told us in January. | 01:24:14 | |
| They want to change the agreement into a plan again. | 01:24:18 | |
| So we're starting over to have a plan. | 01:24:21 | |
| For Beaver Dam Blake for roughness control. | 01:24:23 | |
| So. | 01:24:26 | |
| It's an interesting process. | 01:24:28 | |
| You know, I feel sorry for the NRCS and FSA people. | 01:24:31 | |
| Here you have a case where we've done these. | 01:24:35 | |
| Plans and agreements 4 times. Not very efficient. | 01:24:37 | |
| And we could use our services and their services. | 01:24:41 | |
| For doing different projects, not redoing. | 01:24:44 | |
| What we did in 20 and 22 and 23. | 01:24:47 | |
| So just. | 01:24:50 | |
| Comment Opinion. | 01:24:51 | |
| The BDLA will have a healthy lakes. | 01:24:54 | |
| Presentation March 1st at 9:00 AM. | 01:24:57 | |
| At the Village of Randolph meeting room. | 01:25:00 | |
| Tracy Arnold and Nick Holman. | 01:25:02 | |
| From Portage County will be there as a presenters. | 01:25:05 | |
| And they'll be going over the different native plantings and practices to be used. | 01:25:07 | |
| And talk about the Healthy Lakes program. | 01:25:12 | |
| Where homeowners could receive $1000 to help them do their healthy lake plots. | 01:25:14 | |
| So. | 01:25:20 | |
| Feel free to join if you want to. | 01:25:21 | |
| March 1st. | 01:25:23 | |
| 9:00 AM Randolph. | 01:25:24 | |
| Villager, Randolph. | 01:25:26 | |
| That's all for today. | 01:25:29 | |
| What a deal. OK, Although we did not meet in person this month, we did have a virtual meeting. | 01:25:33 | |
| With. | 01:25:39 | |
| You are on their plant inventory survey. | 01:25:41 | |
| Uh is the company that we have hired to do. | 01:25:45 | |
| Our lake management plan that's. | 01:25:50 | |
| Edmonds and Oliver resources, which I think are in Minnesota, right? | 01:25:52 | |
| They were up to Madison still, I think. | 01:25:57 | |
| OK, so anyway. | 01:25:59 | |
| It was led by Jay Michaels from EOR. He's a replacement for the previous guy who took a job. | 01:26:02 | |
| Elsewhere. | 01:26:08 | |
| But I was most impressed with a young man, Drew Harry, who works for You are. | 01:26:10 | |
| He was the actual technician that was on Fox Lake to do the study. | 01:26:15 | |
| And he was. | 01:26:19 | |
| Very interesting to listen to. | 01:26:21 | |
| He kind of explained what they did. There is 881 points on the lake that they visit. They got them all. | 01:26:24 | |
| GPS located. | 01:26:31 | |
| They do 3 draws at each point. | 01:26:33 | |
| And many points had nose vegetation, so that went kind of fast when they get in those areas. | 01:26:35 | |
| And as a result of the survey, they gave a coefficient of conservation. | 01:26:41 | |
| Which where one is there's nothing and tennis the best you could hope for. | 01:26:48 | |
| And they found 17 different species. | 01:26:53 | |
| And awarded the lake a coefficient of 5.4, which is just slightly above average. | 01:26:57 | |
| And then they did another. | 01:27:03 | |
| Pluralistic quality index, which I think is the flooring from that mistaken. | 01:27:05 | |
| And five, six was above the high quality threshold for that coefficient. | 01:27:12 | |
| So. | 01:27:18 | |
| Drew Harry, he said they found a large amount of water celery, which is water celery and plant stem pond weed. | 01:27:20 | |
| What's your very desirable native species? So that's a good thing, Umm. | 01:27:28 | |
| He did state that most of the weeds are at the four to five foot lake level, where it's deeper. They didn't find much vegetation | 01:27:33 | |
| at all. | 01:27:37 | |
| As far as the invasive go there EUR Asian water mill file, we already had a high amount of that. | 01:27:42 | |
| But he's he made a. | 01:27:48 | |
| Comment that it can be confused with the Northern Water milfoil, which is a native. | 01:27:50 | |
| And sometimes he thought there might be some misidentification problems where they said it was the EUR Asian milfoil and it really | 01:27:55 | |
| wasn't. | 01:28:00 | |
| But he didn't think that we had us. | 01:28:04 | |
| Had a problem with that as they had thought in the past. | 01:28:06 | |
| Then you also showed a chart showing the milligrams of phosphorus in the lake has the last 20 years of showed a steady decline. | 01:28:11 | |
| So there's actually. | 01:28:18 | |
| A decline of phosphorus in Fox Lake. | 01:28:20 | |
| In the last 20 years. | 01:28:22 | |
| So in the end. | 01:28:25 | |
| Tamika, who is the committee chair, expressed A sentiment that the state requires this study every five years and it's quite | 01:28:28 | |
| expensive. | 01:28:32 | |
| And that we don't do anything with it except just look at it so. | 01:28:37 | |
| He's wondering whether we should do it again in the future if we don't get a grantees of the opinion that we shouldn't do it. | 01:28:41 | |
| So after the meeting, then he kind of went into the nano bubbler discussion again and. | 01:28:49 | |
| Try lakes through you are had done a nano bubbler. | 01:28:56 | |
| Trial in 2024. | 01:29:01 | |
| They did get a DNR permit, but they didn't really give the permit. | 01:29:04 | |
| Last part of September when the season was almost over, so they installed them. | 01:29:08 | |
| Then. | 01:29:13 | |
| But there was very little, you know, because it was so late in the season, there wasn't. | 01:29:14 | |
| Nothing that could be. | 01:29:18 | |
| Learned from this study at. | 01:29:22 | |
| In 24. | 01:29:25 | |
| So. | 01:29:28 | |
| What was impressive for Tri Lakes is that. | 01:29:29 | |
| The borrowing they were going to borrow money to do the nano bubblers and. | 01:29:35 | |
| It was. | 01:29:40 | |
| A very large amount of money, something like $30 million. | 01:29:41 | |
| But they did approve spending 3,000,000, which I thought was quite a bit of money to approve to borrow to do the nano bubbler | 01:29:45 | |
| study. I'm not even sure where trial eggs is. Where is trial eggs? | 01:29:49 | |
| The DNR will require a lot of very expensive data collection. | 01:29:59 | |
| For their grant money and. | 01:30:03 | |
| And that's where a lot of the money will be spent, the data collection. | 01:30:07 | |
| Not so much the installation of the nano bubblers. | 01:30:11 | |
| There was an attempt to get UW Stevens Point involved to do some monitoring to save money. | 01:30:14 | |
| Whether that will happen or not, they don't know yet. | 01:30:20 | |
| 3,000,000 for data collection. | 01:30:22 | |
| Well, that's the whole project, but data collection is a large part of it. | 01:30:24 | |
| OK. | 01:30:28 | |
| Just to clarify, Nana Bubbers is a concentrated. | 01:30:31 | |
| 02 but it also. | 01:30:35 | |
| Is ozone, which is over 3. | 01:30:38 | |
| Which the DNR considers a pesticide. | 01:30:40 | |
| But umm. | 01:30:43 | |
| Whether it really is or not, I don't know. | 01:30:44 | |
| Anyway, so anyway, any data that they gather will prove beneficial for anybody moving forward with nano bubblers, so. | 01:30:46 | |
| Does the plant study allow you to do an AES plant invasive species plan? | 01:30:55 | |
| For weed removal. | 01:31:00 | |
| I don't think really because. | 01:31:04 | |
| They didn't think our invasive species was that. | 01:31:06 | |
| OK. | 01:31:09 | |
| They thought we are. They're misidentifying Eurasian before. | 01:31:11 | |
| That they said there was more than there really was. That's what this. | 01:31:14 | |
| Technician had said so. | 01:31:18 | |
| So your weed removal will be for nuisance, not a S primarily. | 01:31:21 | |
| Primarily, yes. Yes. | 01:31:25 | |
| What day did you meet Dale? | 01:31:28 | |
| What's that? What day did you meet? | 01:31:30 | |
| It was on the 11th. | 01:31:32 | |
| OK. | 01:31:34 | |
| And we got that same event invitation that the healthy soils and they give Eastern Standard Time. So one guy got there when the | 01:31:38 | |
| meeting was over. | 01:31:41 | |
| All right. | 01:31:55 | |
| Any questions on the committee reports? | 01:31:56 | |
| OK if not. | 01:32:00 | |
| John, you want to update us on the conference? I think we're pretty much yeah. I got you all registered that are gone. Your rooms | 01:32:01 | |
| are taken care of. | 01:32:05 | |
| This year. | 01:32:10 | |
| I am going to make. | 01:32:12 | |
| All the check insurance for the rooms. | 01:32:13 | |
| So you look for me to get your cards? | 01:32:16 | |
| I had so much problems last year. | 01:32:19 | |
| With it was a hotel issue, you know, I'm not going to go through that again, so I'm gonna check everybody in. I'll have your room | 01:32:22 | |
| cards. | 01:32:26 | |
| You look me up. | 01:32:30 | |
| And I'll get them to you. | 01:32:32 | |
| What time about I? | 01:32:34 | |
| But it starts after lunch, right? It starts. Yeah, Conferences start after lunch. I mean, I'll be there. | 01:32:36 | |
| Probably by 10:00 myself, you know. | 01:32:42 | |
| OK, I think I that's entirely up to you. | 01:32:48 | |
| If you guys want a carpool. | 01:32:53 | |
| Now I'm taking my personal truck. | 01:32:55 | |
| I got room. | 01:32:57 | |
| I would. | 01:33:00 | |
| Carpool, OK. | 01:33:02 | |
| Ken, I'm probably just going to drive myself, OK? I know Lisa is only going for one day. | 01:33:04 | |
| So I'll let you know what time I'll leave and I'll send you guys an e-mail. | 01:33:10 | |
| And then and then for me, like I'm bringing my wife. Then you'll just bill me afterwards for the Yep. | 01:33:14 | |
| The whole telling me, the hotel and the conference, OK, that's fine. | 01:33:19 | |
| OK. Next meeting of this committee is March 24th, 8:30. Is that OK with everybody? | 01:33:25 | |
| All right. | 01:33:33 | |
| Future agenda items, do we need to put a notice that we're going to be together or at this conference? Yeah, I'll put something | 01:33:35 | |
| out. | 01:33:38 | |
| And then what about and what about? What about this coming Friday? | 01:33:42 | |
| For our extension, you know what I mean. I wonder if I should. | 01:33:49 | |
| We'd include that too in there that we. | 01:33:52 | |
| There may be. | 01:33:55 | |
| She did. | 01:33:57 | |
| Because they don't want it. | 01:34:01 | |
| It is OK. So make sure we don't have any negative quorum issues, OK. And the other question I have for future agenda. | 01:34:02 | |
| I went back and tried. I replayed a video of our meeting here. I don't know if you've ever done that through the video county | 01:34:10 | |
| system. I don't know if you've ever done that. | 01:34:15 | |
| I think and I don't know. | 01:34:20 | |
| Umm, I think there could be an improvement on how you act like, like like if there was a date on it and John and I looked that | 01:34:23 | |
| member, you know what I mean? OK. What happens is that they record all the committee meetings of the county. | 01:34:28 | |
| And they are in order of when they're recorded, but there's no. | 01:34:34 | |
| So like was there 100 meetings or something you look at and say you wanted to find this meeting? | 01:34:38 | |
| You think that you would say I want the conservation meeting on February 24th? You think that's what? | 01:34:43 | |
| I know, I know, but but but it can't be that hard do that took me a long time the first time. Went back to lookout to figure out | 01:34:49 | |
| what you mean. It took me a long to figure out how to get to the place to get to the meeting. So shame. So I had to call him and | 01:34:56 | |
| he's telling me step by step how to find her because Shane wanted to review one of the meetings and I was like. | 01:35:02 | |
| And I had you had to. | 01:35:09 | |
| And he, John made it pretty easy to be honest with you, but it shouldn't be that hard. | 01:35:11 | |
| Now you got to actually open it up before you find out what day it is. | 01:35:16 | |
| So I think I don't we. | 01:35:20 | |
| Should we make a? | 01:35:23 | |
| A future agenda item to make a recommendation to it. You guys need to, I can just call it and because really it's ridiculous. It | 01:35:24 | |
| should be like really easy to find a meeting. | 01:35:29 | |
| Yeah, so. | 01:35:35 | |
| OK, well. | 01:35:36 | |
| Yeah. | 01:35:38 | |
| OK. All right. I will will do you know what I'm talking about, Dave? OK, OK. | 01:35:42 | |
| All right, sounds good. | 01:35:49 | |
| And your question earlier about if somebody got on the ledge admin meeting? | 01:35:52 | |
| Per diem in that. | 01:35:57 | |
| I know Lisa's on the Southern Area Association and when she goes to them. | 01:35:58 | |
| She gets per diem in mileage. | 01:36:03 | |
| So I don't see why it would be an issue unless if the county said no. | 01:36:05 | |
| Richland County. | 01:36:10 | |
| They've actually said no. | 01:36:12 | |
| And the Southern Area Association. | 01:36:14 | |
| Budgeted funds to help offset that. | 01:36:18 | |
| But then the person never claimed reimbursement on him anyway, said she didn't want it so. | 01:36:21 | |
| But I don't think it would be an issue if somebody wanted to get on one of them as far as. | 01:36:26 | |
| Putting it in in my budget for. | 01:36:31 | |
| Mileage and per diem's. Both per diems are paid for through the county and the mileage that would all go on county board side. | 01:36:34 | |
| OK. I unless there's any other discussion, I will call this meeting adjourned by the completion of the agenda. | 01:36:42 | |
| Thank everybody. | 01:36:50 | |
| They got to sign these things. | 01:36:55 |