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County website. 00:00:00
Is there anyone that would like to speak at the? 00:00:02
Public hearing. 00:00:04
I had a I have this one. 00:00:07
OK, we do have one. 00:00:09
Correspondence. 00:00:13
My office did receive receive a correspondence correspondence to be read during the public hearing. 00:00:17
It did come in e-mail, so bear with me. 00:00:24
It says good morning regarding your post a comprehensive update draft. I had a couple of concerns as I brought up during our phone 00:00:28
conversation. 00:00:32
That wasn't with me. 00:00:37
That was with. 00:00:40
A member of Land Resources and Parks. 00:00:42
But the concern is map 5.1. 00:00:44
Page 142. 00:00:48
Fire emergency has listed climbing instead of Clr group. 00:00:51
As the provider for the Kleiman, Lowell and Reeseville area. 00:00:55
Map 8-2, page 234. 00:01:00
Future land map shows CCI property near the 1:51. 00:01:03
Slash 73 area as commercial red. 00:01:09
When it is currently zoned industrial purple. 00:01:13
On county zoning indicating more restrictive than current zoning question. 00:01:16
Major minor collector CTHS. 00:01:22
Page 85. 00:01:26
Does not include TT, only mentioning on page 102 under Addressing critical safety projects being considered as letter C. 00:01:28
To potentially remove a segment of TT after bridge placement. 00:01:38
Turning TT into a non. 00:01:43
Through Rd. would no longer serve as a collector. 00:01:45
But in an entrance for Dodge County Park. 00:01:49
Well, I understand the document is for future possibilities. 00:01:52
The wording in both sections appears to support an easy safety fix that creates more public safety. 00:01:56
Off the highway intersection. Thank you for your time. 00:02:03
Submitted by Jane. 00:02:07
Par part. 00:02:10
OK. Anyone else that would like to speak at the public hearing? 00:02:12
On the comp plan. 00:02:18
Anyone else that would like to speak on the public hearing? 00:02:25
At this point, I will close the public hearing on the recommended Dodge County. 00:02:31
Comprehensive plan 2045. 00:02:35
What's your pleasure of the minutes? 00:02:38
From the December 16th County Board meeting. 00:02:41
I have a motion by Supervisor Miller, second by Supervisor Kane. 00:02:50
Any additions or corrections? 00:02:55
Seeing none all in favor signify by aye. 00:03:00
Aye, opposed. 00:03:04
That is carried. Thank you. 00:03:05
Communications on file? Anything else? 00:03:09
I have no other communications on file. 00:03:12
OK, you know we're at the regular public comment. 00:03:16
Did anyone sign up for public comment? 00:03:19
OK. 00:03:21
Anyone here for regular public comment? 00:03:24
Special order of business confirm appointment. 00:03:29
By county Administrator of Melissa Knipple. 00:03:32
County Conservationist. 00:03:36
I do I have a motion. 00:03:39
Motion by Supervisor Miller, second by Supervisor Stager. 00:03:43
And this can be a. 00:03:49
You got to vote this one. 00:03:51
No, OK. 00:03:52
Just. 00:03:54
Yeah, OK. 00:03:55
Supervisor Houchin. 00:03:57
Just a question. 00:04:00
It says there's no date, so is this a permanent? Is this a job as opposed to? 00:04:01
Like the next one says when? 00:04:06
When it'll expire? This is a job and she will start on February 19th. OK, thank you. 00:04:07
OK. 00:04:15
OK. All right. 00:04:20
You ready to vote if you agree with the appointment? 00:04:22
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:04:24
I need to get it up here. 00:04:32
I thought you said you had it in OK. 00:04:33
Just a voice vote. 00:04:36
All in favor signify by. 00:04:37
Opposed. That is carried. 00:04:39
All right, the next one is Cindy Robbie to fill a vacancy on the Nutrition Advisory Council of the term to expire July 1st, 2028. 00:04:42
Have a motion by Supervisor Hedrick, second by Supervisor Miller. 00:04:50
Any questions? 00:04:56
Hearing none, all in favor signify by aye. 00:04:58
Aye, opposed. 00:05:01
That is carried. 00:05:02
At this time, I'd like to introduce Nate Olson and. 00:05:06
From our zoning department and to come up and. 00:05:10
Have Cedar Corp. 00:05:13
Presentation on the comp plan. 00:05:15
That's up. 00:05:27
We up ready roll. 00:05:37
All right, as Dave said, my name is Nate Olson. I'm the Community Development Administrator who are in the Land Resource and Parks 00:05:39
Department. 00:05:42
Thank you for giving us the opportunity tonight to present on the Dodge County's recommended comprehensive plan and to share with 00:05:45
you the process. And you know how we got to it. Up here is Ken Jaworski, who represents Cedar Corp. 00:05:51
Before he jumps in and gives a little more thorough up. 00:05:58
Not only update, but review of the process. 00:06:01
I wanted just to provide a little intro and a little context of how we got to a rat and what really why we're here. 00:06:04
So this project began back in mid to later 2024. 00:06:10
Ever since then, there's been a substantial amount of outreach, public input, a lot of engagement with different communities, 00:06:14
businesses, and so forth. 00:06:18
And we've arrived at this recommended comprehensive plan, which really I think is a good product, OK. I think this is something 00:06:22
that Dodge County can be proud of and should be proud of. 00:06:26
You know, if you historically look at what we've done in planning. 00:06:31
In Dodge County over the years is very significant. 00:06:34
You know, we go all the way back to the 1960s of doing land use planning, comprehensive planning, once a comprehensive planning 00:06:37
law came into effect in 2000. 00:06:41
Matter of fact, this is my third goal around of doing a county comprehensive plan under that law. I've been here 24 years. 00:06:45
This is my third round, might be my last, you never know. We'll see what happens. 00:06:51
But. 00:06:55
You know, comprehensive plans are just that. They're comprehensive, inclusive, OK, You pull it in together 9 elements that are 00:06:56
very wide-ranging and pull in a lot of your demographics, your trends, your opportunities, your issues and bring it all together 00:07:03
in one central location. That's pretty significant. It's very significant, especially when you look at the size of Dodge County. 00:07:10
We are a very large rural county where 43 local units of government spread across 900 square miles. 00:07:17
So as you can imagine, pulling that all together into a central county document is very extensive. But the very cool. 00:07:22
Part about that is you get to really help to understand your county a lot better and if you really look into the county. 00:07:28
Comprehensive plan, you really start to see that you're going to see the issues, but you're going to see the opportunities, and 00:07:34
there's a lot of really good opportunities, a lot of really good things going on here, something that you as a county board should 00:07:38
be really proud of. 00:07:41
There's a lot of good community members out there doing good work. 00:07:45
Programming out there, and it's evident in this plan. 00:07:48
So before I start talking too much and take away Ken's Thunder on the whole project, I'll step aside. But this is Ken Jaworski 00:07:51
with Cedar Corp. He does have extensive history in Dodge County now that the county herself, but a lot of your communities as 00:07:57
well. So he brings good knowledge and a good base to this project. 00:08:02
So they'll turn to Ken. 00:08:08
Thanks, Nate. Yeah, he was. 00:08:12
Right when the smart growth law got got passed. 00:08:15
Back in the. 00:08:19
After year 2000, the first time you did your plan. 00:08:21
I was with that team back then, it was Dave Carpenter and we developed the first smart growth plan. So I've been involved in the 00:08:24
county for for a long time. Just the fact that, you know, Cedar Corporation was a consultant, but we work very closely with the 00:08:29
your planning and. 00:08:34
And, and land resources and parks team, Bill and Nate and and Morgan, we're, we're very key and, and bringing this process 00:08:39
together. We had our own team as part of the process, myself as a project manager and Eric and Krista and Nicole all work very 00:08:44
closely on a lot of the data. 00:08:50
That was. 00:08:56
Part of this effort and as Nate mentioned, there was a lot of that. Basically what I want to go through is a Nate did mention what 00:08:58
a plan is. I'll go in a little bit more detail there. 00:09:03
What our process was. I'll hit some of the highlights. 00:09:08
I'll try to keep it, you know, really high level. 00:09:12
But. 00:09:15
You know, there were a lot of parts in motion here, a lot of new trends and so forth that we had to address and then we'll talk 00:09:17
about the adoption procedures. 00:09:21
Basically why update the plan? As I mentioned the SMART broke law 66 by 1001 is a requirement. You have to need to have a plan if 00:09:26
you have any land use regulations. 00:09:31
You need to update the plan about every 10 years. 00:09:37
OK. When when you do that, you incorporate new demographic information you looked at, you know, some of the past. 00:09:41
Experiences that you had, some good, some bad. 00:09:48
What are the future trends that are out there? 00:09:51
And it also stresses the need for consistency. Like I said, you have zoning, county zoning, you have to base those zoning 00:09:54
decisions on a statutory compliant comprehensive plan. And that is the reason that you do that. That's not the only reason. That's 00:09:59
the law reason, but there's a lot of good. 00:10:05
Benefits locally that come from going through this effort. There are 9 elements. I've got them listed there. So we go on to goals, 00:10:10
objectives of policies. Under each of these are all kind of intertwined. And each of those are a chapter in that report. And as 00:10:16
Nate mentioned, it requires public participation. 00:10:21
And there was a lot of it in this particular process. 00:10:27
The methods we use we had a, a website, a hub site. 00:10:31
I'll talk a little bit more about some of those numbers. The LRPC, we had meetings with them. We created it had ad hoc working 00:10:35
group. I'll go into a little bit more detail there. We had a survey, we coordinated with towns. 00:10:42
On review of materials, we even went to Wisconsin Towns Association county meetings and gave them updates there. We had two public 00:10:48
involvement meetings where the public came out and kind of looked at our maps and gave us some. 00:10:54
Some input there. The future land use map was reviewed by all the towns that sent back to us and of course a public hearing which 00:10:59
is tonight, and that was all captured in a. 00:11:03
Public participation plan that was adopted when we started this particular process. So here's a little bit more detail about this 00:11:08
public outreach. When we had the the ad hoc working group meetings, there were six of them. 00:11:14
The town unit meetings, involvement meetings, the LRPC meetings, tonight's county board meeting, just some other highlights. A 00:11:21
web-based project hub got 9500 views OK, and there were 9 submitted comments throughout the course of the process. 00:11:28
We even did department head interviews. So department heads that are out there, we went and talked to your individual departments 00:11:36
and. 00:11:39
Although some of their services don't directly relate to the plan. 00:11:42
They came up with some pretty good ideas and we wanted to input that. The resident opinion survey, we had 367 responses there. We 00:11:46
sent out surveys to the towns. 00:11:51
About the administration of land use programs between the county and their town and what could improve. And we got 13 responses 00:11:56
out of the out of 18 towns and and then we sent letters to all towns to review that future land use map. So again, this slide 00:12:02
demonstrates the level of public participation that we had. 00:12:08
We did have the ad hoc working group I'm not going to list. 00:12:14
Everyone there, but thank you very much for if anybody's out there that participated in this with a what a vibrant group this was 00:12:18
and and really put the cards on the table in terms of what they saw were the opportunities and some of the issues. So it was a 00:12:23
very good cross section of folks, the two from education, four people from the private sector, business sector, state agency and 00:12:28
non profit. 00:12:34
About 14 hours each review and discussion. About 168 collective hours with this group that they ping pong back and forth with 00:12:39
ideas. 00:12:43
Was nice here was a project hub that we had out there. Was listed on the. 00:13:14
The the website, sometimes people can't sleep at night so they want to kind of see what's going on. That was always available 24/7 00:13:17
and that it was always out there so anybody could get the resources that they need. As I mentioned, you know about 9500 views on 00:13:23
that the resident survey, just some. 00:13:28
A numbers there we had 97.8 of the respondents were residents or land owners. 00:13:35
51% from rural towns, 65% lived in the county for 20 plus years and 23% own a business. So we got a pretty good cross reference of 00:13:42
of input from from that group. So we're pretty happy. 00:13:48
With that. 00:13:55
What are some of the highlights? While not going into the goals and objectives, but that's a very strong element of a 00:13:56
comprehensive plan. 00:13:59
Roles are a little bit broader based. Objectives are a little bit more measurable. You're going to increase something, you're 00:14:02
going to decrease something, going to maintain something. Policy is a little bit more stern. They're the. 00:14:07
The shells and the shoulds and. 00:14:12
And so forth. So we went through all those and reviewed those and and made changes. This also has recommendations. We talked about 00:14:14
some hot topics that came up in our ad hoc committee meeting. Of course, then it all kind of comes together in the. 00:14:20
And the future land use map and that incorporates all the. 00:14:27
The unincorporated areas of the town and we use so approach here actually that kind of evolved from Dodge County's first planning 00:14:30
effort back at. 00:14:34
At the year 2000 called planning from the outside in and I'm going to explain that a little bit of why Dodge County. 00:14:38
Really kind of set the tone about the way you would plan. 00:14:44
Using this approach. 00:14:48
In a minute here. So the goals and objectives, like I said, we modified the statements, we remove statements, we added statements. 00:14:50
We have over 100 recommendations in this plan. Some came from the ad hoc group. 00:14:55
Landed Resource and Parks Committee and. 00:15:00
Some selected department heads had some recommendations as well that made it through all the filters and to the end of the the 00:15:02
plan that got endorsement. We took those recommendations and we've prioritized them. 00:15:07
Either next one to two years, maybe the next three to 10. 00:15:13
And then anything over 11. 00:15:18
A long term. 00:15:20
Long term. 00:15:21
Recommendations. So we wanted to give it a sense of. 00:15:23
A little bit of a barometer in terms of where the energy should be. 00:15:26
Focused on some of these. 00:15:29
Recommendations. 00:15:31
As I mentioned, the plane from the outside and approach is really tailor made. 00:15:33
For the Dodge County environment because. 00:15:36
All my experience here working with the towns and working with the county and seeing all that public input is the fact that. 00:15:39
You love your natural resources. 00:15:45
You love your working lands. 00:15:47
It's the base of your county, and that's something that the public feels very strongly about protecting. 00:15:49
OK. So what we wanted to do in this particular process? 00:15:55
Was look at your valuable natural resources and try to map them and show them graphically as to where. 00:15:59
Development should be steered away from and allow these types of activities to occur so the productive farmland. 00:16:06
Based on your farming economy, you've got the Niagara Escarpment here on the eastern side of the town. We'll show a little bit 00:16:13
about that. You've got some fantastic freshwater. 00:16:17
Resource, of course, a Horicon Marsh being one of the the biggest in the United States, and of course you've got significant state 00:16:22
and federal lands throughout your county as well. So let's just kind of take a look at them here. This is a fantastic map. This is 00:16:28
from the American Farmland Trust. 00:16:33
OK. A study that they did that shows. 00:16:38
And I'm saying this nationally significant agricultural land. So this is land. 00:16:42
That's been documented. 00:16:47
By its characteristics, its ability to go good crops and so forth. And this is the map that's been generated so your county has 00:16:48
some of the best. 00:16:52
Farmland in the entire United States, and this map shows that. And Dodge County takes that seriously because you've been in the 00:16:56
farmland preservation program for a long time. So this is your farmland preservation map. So anything in green you see there? 00:17:02
OK, our areas that we want to continue to see. 00:17:09
In some form of farmland preservation, OK, doesn't mean it couldn't be amended down the road. But as of right now these are 00:17:12
significant areas that we feel contribute to the farming economy. Those areas in Orange then are those areas that are either 00:17:19
currently developed or maybe developed in the next 10 to 15 years. But you can see a pretty, pretty significant. 00:17:26
Impact in terms of your farmland and it's just not. 00:17:34
A pretty map, OK, there's some financial. 00:17:37
Dollars at play here too, because Dodge counties in the farmland preservation program, which allows. 00:17:40
Farmers to claim tax credits at $12.50 per acre. 00:17:45
OK. 00:17:50
Your county. 00:17:52
Last year alone. 00:17:53
In tax credits. 00:17:55
What do we have 900,000? 00:17:57
99 That's money. 00:17:59
That would. 00:18:02
Typically leave the county through taxes. It gets to stay here so. 00:18:02
It's there's a financial. 00:18:06
Gain here to the county as well to be in this program. 00:18:08
And it's as you can see, it's. 00:18:11
Very, very well embraced. 00:18:14
Also, as I mentioned, I showed you your natural resources, your county owned land, federal owned land, state lands. Those are 00:18:17
areas that we want to. 00:18:20
Continue to preserve and add the quality of life here. 00:18:23
We added this to this. 00:18:27
Round of planning, and that's the Niagara Escarpment outcroppings. Trying to give them some some significance and some buffering. 00:18:29
Folks in the town of Leroy, they've, they've, they've taken really embraced that fact. They've got some. 00:18:37
Buffers along those regions that they want to preserve and of course that trickles down through the escarpment. So that was kind 00:18:42
of added. And then it all kind of comes together into the, you know, the future land use map. OK, so basically anything green on 00:18:47
that map is significantly impacted by those maps I just showed you. 00:18:52
OK, these are resources you want to protect. 00:18:57
The light colors that you see here kind of coincide with those. 00:19:00
With those orange areas that we see on this particular map, so. 00:19:04
There's that planning from the outside in as we look at what we want to preserve first. 00:19:08
OK. And we make sure that agriculture just isn't place? 00:19:13
To hold land until development comes, it has an economic impact here county and it needs to be weighed. 00:19:17
At the same level as other uses and protected OK transitions can occur obviously as communities grow, but we wanted to make sure 00:19:23
that the resource. 00:19:27
Got the protection that it needed in the county on that on that map. This one's hard to to read and that's actually kind of a good 00:19:32
thing in a sense because. 00:19:37
This map shows all the changes that occurred on the future land use map for Dodge County. 00:19:42
As we went through this process, so each of these towns. 00:19:47
Got their map. 00:19:50
Back they were able to review it. 00:19:52
So we had about 11174 parcels that were reclassified. 00:19:54
886 of those are due to the. 00:19:59
The village of Kakoski, Williamstown becoming becoming a village so. 00:20:02
There's really that. There was really only 228. 00:20:07
Classification changes that were made to. 00:20:10
Remaining parcels and that's because your department over here. 00:20:13
Entertains amendments to your plan on a continuous basis. 00:20:16
So that's a good thing. Which means there isn't. 00:20:20
This big shock and awe when you update it. 00:20:23
Like we did just now so, but we we did have changes and. 00:20:27
And those are the communities that requested changes. So those have been. 00:20:30
Have been captured and I know there's been a few other. 00:20:35
Comments that have been made. I'll get to here in a second. 00:20:38
What were some of the hot topics that came up in this planning process? 00:20:41
Agriculture preservation, still, I would say #1 in terms of the dedication. 00:20:44
That the county wants to see at this program. 00:20:49
That comes sometimes. 00:20:52
You know, conflicts a little bit with surface water quality. So, you know, the need for nutrient management, responsible farming, 00:20:55
and those types of things kind of go hand in hand because surface water quality was still something that people wanted to see. 00:21:01
Big support for your recreation and tourism, the trail systems that you have and so forth. 00:21:07
Then we start getting down to some of the. 00:21:13
Some of the things that I think are a little bit more far reaching in terms of your economy in this county, OK, and that's 00:21:15
resident attraction. 00:21:19
OK, we need to keep. 00:21:23
Young people in the county, for your workforce we need to attract. 00:21:26
People to your county to be part of the workforce. 00:21:31
So that's what we heard a lot from the business community is that. 00:21:34
You know, somehow, someway. 00:21:38
We need to. 00:21:41
Allow for. 00:21:43
Affordable housing development, trying to keep a diversity of age groups in the county to support the the economy. You've got a 00:21:45
lot of assets here and hopefully. 00:21:50
That'll be useful in attracting that. So that lays right into workforce and economic development you need people to generate. 00:21:55
Economic development and be part of your workforce. Child care provisions a big thing too that was looked at as a little bit of a 00:22:03
barrier. 00:22:07
Fire department EMS coordination. 00:22:11
OK. It's been a hot topic. There been a lot of talk about consolidations and so forth, not necessarily in the county here, but I'm 00:22:14
just saying throughout the state that's a, that's a, that's a big issue in trying to make that process a little bit more cost 00:22:20
effective. And then some of our favorites, right, utility scale solar energy systems and of course. 00:22:26
The big buzz of late, you know, being being the data centers and and their impact. Some of these we didn't. 00:22:32
Like data Centers for example, that information is just coming in daily. In terms of what? 00:22:39
Individual communities can do and so forth. Solar, we've got a little bit more information on and we actually created I think some 00:22:44
real strong policies in your plan. 00:22:48
The deal with solar developers. 00:22:53
Who want to be supposedly good neighbors. OK, So we really straightened this plan to get the county better at the bargaining 00:22:55
table, the negotiating table if any of these systems were ever to show up again to put you, the county in a better position, not 00:23:00
just financially. 00:23:05
But also. 00:23:10
Of some of the. 00:23:11
The other externalities that these systems could. 00:23:12
Can have whether it's visual. 00:23:16
Or loss of farmland or such. 00:23:17
So steps for adoption, we'll have the hearing tonight and we'll take the comments you had some earlier. I'm going to address a 00:23:20
couple of them that kind of filtered in. 00:23:23
While we were putting this together. 00:23:27
And this plan, as you'll see later in your agenda is to be adopted by an ordinance, OK. I think that's like. 00:23:30
#11 or something on here. 00:23:36
On your. 00:23:38
Agenda. So we had the elbow comments. Actually they were, they were read. 00:23:40
Prior at the public hearing. 00:23:44
So I just kind of broke those down quickly. The map 51, the 1:42. 00:23:47
This was. 00:23:52
This was, this was a reference, an improper reference, so. 00:23:53
Staff is going to correct that reference. That's not a. 00:23:57
A huge issue. 00:24:00
The the comments about the commercial versus the industrial parcel. 00:24:03
The CCI property. 00:24:07
Whether it's commercial or industrial, it does meet the. 00:24:10
The consistency requirements of the zoning district. 00:24:14
OK, so. 00:24:17
It's it's it's. 00:24:18
We could have it either way, I guess. Right now it's what? 00:24:20
It's commercial. 00:24:23
Yeah. 00:24:25
OK. OK. Yeah, so. 00:24:26
Yeah. OK. So that's that's consistent with what we have. 00:24:29
There was an oversight on page 85 and that that'll be corrected by. 00:24:33
By staff and then there was a little bit more discussion here about. 00:24:37
The future of TT and whether or not the the road and the bridge and so forth and. 00:24:42
And these were just ideas. 00:24:48
The plan discussion is not a recommendation anything. 00:24:50
That was brought up in this testimony. 00:24:55
Is just discussing potential solutions. They are not recommendations. It's just a list of options at this time, so. 00:24:57
Really nothing there to change that's going to have any significant. 00:25:06
Impact on on the overall plan. 00:25:11
We did the in this. The slide is cloudy for a reason. I'll get to that here in a little bit. But there there were some comments 00:25:15
about. 00:25:18
The City of Watertown and Emmett have an intergovernmental agreement on the Northside of OF. 00:25:22
Of the city and how that was to be addressed. 00:25:28
This is your current map of Emmett that they agreed to. This was the same. 00:25:32
Basically the same arrangement that. 00:25:36
Emmett had adopted back in 2015. 00:25:39
And then the city, you know, showed their future land use map and showed that there was some differences, OK, and that. 00:25:42
These need to be. 00:25:50
Kind of resolve all right, so they provided. 00:25:52
Some comments in terms of what those uses should be. 00:25:55
On the county map. 00:25:59
OK, so and that's fine. We welcome. 00:26:00
All that type of discussion. 00:26:04
But when we were looking at it in terms of OK, whether or not this is. 00:26:06
A reason for a change tonight? 00:26:10
Before you adopt that. 00:26:13
Look back at their map. 00:26:15
To what they submitted. 00:26:17
And that really wasn't consistent with their own map, so. 00:26:19
The the bottom line here is there's some work to be done between the two local units of government within their agreement area in 00:26:23
terms of what uses should be there. 00:26:28
So our position as as staff is to. 00:26:33
Let that. 00:26:36
Play out. 00:26:37
And then when they come forward, address that and. 00:26:38
And I'll talk a little bit more about here at my closing slide, but some things for you to consider tonight. 00:26:41
As you make. 00:26:47
Take action on the ordinance. 00:26:49
Number one, this process. 00:26:52
Casted a real wide net. 00:26:54
To incorporate public comments, OK, this was a very transparent public. 00:26:56
Driven process throughout. 00:27:01
OK, like I said, the website alone out there 24/7. 00:27:03
Anybody could make comments? 00:27:07
The door was always open for comment. 00:27:09
Future land use map for. 00:27:11
This plan. 00:27:13
OK, applies to unincorporated areas. 00:27:14
Only. 00:27:18
All right, so that's the 23 towns and in, in in Dodge County. 00:27:20
Right, it did not. 00:27:24
Take uh. 00:27:26
Your your future land use map does not include lands within villages and cities as they're an exporter. That's their 00:27:27
responsibility. That's that's what they're responsible for. So. 00:27:32
Again, the plan contains over 100 recommendations covered into 9 required elements, and it sets them by priority. 00:27:38
All towns, including Emmett reviewed their individual future land use maps would be part of the county's future land use map 00:27:44
during the update process. So every town, I want to stress that every town had numerous chances to lay in on that map and provide 00:27:50
their input. So relative to this, this agreement between Emmett. 00:27:57
And in Watertown. 00:28:03
SAS recommendation is for both governments to meet, resolve the land use designations and jointly propose a future comprehensive 00:28:05
plan amendment back to Dodge County for inclusion on the future land use map. So basically what Emmett has proposed right now 00:28:10
would be what you would be. 00:28:15
Adopting tonight, but we leave the door open for Emmett and Watertown to review their intergovernmental agreement area and propose 00:28:20
something new down the road which could come back to you to amend that plan. 00:28:25
At at another, at another time and that's and there will be numerous opportunities, right so. 00:28:31
It's a working document. 00:28:37
Yeah, you can be amended periodically and your policy here is about twice a year that you entertain comp plan amendments. So 00:28:38
there's time to to for the two parties to meet and and get that done and that could include some other amendments too If, if, if 00:28:43
things crop up over the next. 00:28:49
Year or so. 00:28:54
So that pretty much concludes it. 00:28:56
That was. 00:28:58
15 minutes that we took 15 months to do so anyway. 00:29:00
If you if you want to take questions now it's, it's, it's, it's totally up to you. Yeah, we'll take questions at this time, so. 00:29:04
Are there questions? 00:29:11
Supervisor cameras on Jen. 00:29:14
Yeah, you, you mentioned that. 00:29:17
I first of all, I think it's a great document. There are a lot of really good recommendations, he said. There are over 100 00:29:19
recommendations. 00:29:22
And I wonder if you have some? 00:29:25
Recommendations for tracking those? 00:29:28
Goals and recommendations that are laid out here, not just saying, hey, we're doing a good job here and there, but. 00:29:31
Can we actually get those recommendations, maybe in a spreadsheet and track them? 00:29:37
Well, we certainly hope. 00:29:42
You know, the, the, the department, the planning department does that. 00:29:43
You know, the first step is obviously to make the recommendations and get them out there. 00:29:48
So you know. 00:29:53
Technically, yeah, you should be reviewing your plan every couple years and doing a little bit of an audit to see if there's been 00:29:55
the needles been moved on any of the recommendations, but. 00:29:59
You know. 00:30:04
It's it's going to be kind of. 00:30:05
The responsibility of the county and your departments to monitor that that's. 00:30:07
I mean. 00:30:11
My job is going to be done after it's passed, but the the carried the torch is hopefully through the through the planning 00:30:13
department. 00:30:16
To measure those metrics. 00:30:20
Supervisor Belk. 00:30:24
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:30:26
And on the basis of? 00:30:28
Farm preservation as it relates to solar. 00:30:31
How do you coordinate them two together? Isn't it a contradiction? I mean, if we're going to have solar, it's gonna take up a lot 00:30:34
of good farmland. At least that's what we've seen over the years in Dodge County. 00:30:39
And how is that? Is that more of a contradiction? And how do we address that Well. 00:30:44
I'm gonna blame Nate because I had some slides in there to talk about that. 00:30:49
There has been progress. I mentioned the data centers and and and solar. 00:30:55
There's been some summits that have been occurring because that comment has been probably the number one comment and how to 00:30:59
accommodate solar and there has been some really nice strides that have been made in the area of dual use. 00:31:05
OK. So it's just not going to be a system strictly to energy development. There's been some great strides in. 00:31:12
The changes in how solar arrays are designed now. 00:31:19
To let farming occur underneath their race. So this whole concept of dual use. 00:31:23
Is is really starting to take traction? 00:31:29
Where designers of the systems, agriculture, the agriculture community, soil scientists and so forth are meeting and trying to 00:31:32
crack that nut. And we're starting to see some pretty innovative. 00:31:38
Dual use systems out there and your plan does include. 00:31:44
A policy that says any proposed system over 50 MW must have a dual use component to it. 00:31:49
So we're going to hold your plan gives you some evidence to hold the developer responsible for just not. 00:31:56
Slamming in the solar. 00:32:02
Throwing grass on the need it and and goodbye. No there your your plan now has a policy that says. 00:32:04
You must. 00:32:09
Are we prefer? 00:32:11
A dual use system. 00:32:13
When you're citing a system of anything 50 megawatts or greater. 00:32:15
Supervisor Houchin. 00:32:21
Thank you. 00:32:23
There were two things that I. 00:32:25
When I look through this at I. 00:32:26
Wondered about. 00:32:28
You said there were nine different categories, but. 00:32:30
You put the Gold Star trail under. 00:32:33
Transportation. 00:32:36
And I would think that was recreation, but I didn't see recreation or the camping. 00:32:38
In any of that. 00:32:42
And then the second thing I wondered about was. 00:32:44
You talk about if we. 00:32:47
Decide to do something with. 00:32:50
Henry dodge and tear it down that we're going to use it for a renewable energy. 00:32:52
Project maybe? 00:32:56
What is that? 00:32:57
Nate, you want to take that one? 00:33:00
The Gold Star trail was listed under transportation just that's typically where you put trails. Non motorized trails do can go 00:33:06
underneath that category. 00:33:10
The second point you made, I believe that came out of conversation with department heads as something to look at with the reuse. 00:33:14
If something happens out there. 00:33:21
Is to consider that on that site. 00:33:23
So. 00:33:25
I believe that's where that came out was with department conversations on that. 00:33:26
So because it was in the pot, it's in the plan. 00:33:30
Yep. So department heads, as Ken mentioned before, our department heads were were interviewed. 00:33:33
They did put some input into the plan and I'm pretty sure that's where one of those came from is. 00:33:38
Is a possibility as. 00:33:43
If that building comes down, could that be looked at? 00:33:44
So, umm. 00:33:47
Supervisor Hedrick. 00:33:50
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:33:52
And thank you so much for this very comprehensive plan and and discussion of the plan. 00:33:54
You're welcome. Thank you. 00:34:00
Also for highlighting the the Emmett Watertown. 00:34:03
Conundrum challenge there and and the process forward with that. 00:34:07
Much appreciated. 00:34:11
And your explanation of the solar fields, you mentioned data centers. 00:34:13
Were they? 00:34:17
Addressed as well. I know that's that's much newer than the solar fields, but it's a topic here in the county. 00:34:18
Addressed in the fact that. 00:34:24
You know there's a concern and need For more information. 00:34:26
And, you know, it's been getting a lot of press and. 00:34:31
Big companies I know like Microsoft and Google who are. 00:34:35
You know this is all being spawned by. 00:34:38
A lot of this by AI, OK, that's, that's creating the demand for for the for these centers. 00:34:41
And, you know, they're trying to be, as you can imagine, better neighbors, so they're trying to. 00:34:47
As part of their projects, you know, take care of all the infrastructure costs if there's. 00:34:52
Wells or towers or anything that needs to be produced but. 00:34:57
What's going on right now, and all we could really say in this plan right now, because we didn't have a lot of answers as we're 00:35:00
developing this, is there's just a hunger For more information about how this works and what the demands are and what role. 00:35:07
That company is going to play. 00:35:13
Versus the local government. 00:35:15
I can tell you this. And when it comes to data centers, it's going to be a little bit different than solar arrays that you can put 00:35:17
on the rural landscape. We're talking data centers. It's got to have water, it's got to have electricity. I mean, that's deep. 00:35:22
We're talking big demand. So if, if, if any of those proposals were to come, the Dodge County is probably going to come to your 00:35:28
incorporated areas because they have the the infrastructure to to handle that. 00:35:33
But so, as I told a lot of the audience, when. 00:35:40
We put this together. 00:35:44
Data centers are tracking like 2 years behind solar in terms of the information. So we've got a lot more information on. 00:35:45
How to manage solar, what the ask for and that sort of thing. 00:35:52
Now, because you know, the big hit was about 3-4 years ago and everybody was, was scurrying to try to find answers for how's it 00:35:55
going to impact the soil and, and what is the impacts on, on rental costs for farming if you're taking it out of production. All 00:36:00
that information starting to trickle in a lot better now. I would expect the same for data centers in the next two years. So you 00:36:05
know, if we want to strengthen that language, that might be an amendment in a couple years if we get some good resources and 00:36:11
information to do that. 00:36:16
Any other questions? 00:36:23
Anyone else? 00:36:26
Thank you, Ken. Yeah, I want to thank the folks in Dodge County. It's always a pleasure working with you folks. I I love the rural 00:36:29
communities. I grew up on a farm and, and trying to help folks out in rural areas is something that's really dear to me. And I 00:36:33
want to thank everybody who was part of this effort at the town level and the county level because it was, I think it's a good 00:36:38
plan. 00:36:42
Thank you. 00:36:49
OK. 00:36:52
Resolutions on file. 00:36:55
Resolution 2561. 00:36:57
Commendation of David Addison. 00:37:01
Whereas. 00:37:04
David Addison has contributed 32 years of dedicated service to Dodge County and the citizens of Dodge County. 00:37:06
And whereas Dodge County and its citizens have benefited from the services he has provided. 00:37:12
And whereas David Addison has chosen to retire from his present position of manager. 00:37:18
Of land information in the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department. 00:37:23
Now, therefore, be it resolved that we, the Dodge County Board of Supervisors, pause and its deliberations to recognize and 00:37:28
commend David Addison. 00:37:33
For 32 years of meritorious service. 00:37:37
And be it further resolved, that on behalf of the citizens of Dodge County. 00:37:40
This board does year with extend to his appreciation for his many accomplishments and success successes. 00:37:45
Over 32 years of service. 00:37:51
And be it finally resolved that a copy of this resolution be entered into the official records. 00:37:54
Of the Dodge County Board of Supervisors and that a copy of this resolution be forwarded to David Addison is a token. 00:38:00
Of appreciation on the part of this board. 00:38:06
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th. 00:38:09
Day of February 2026. 00:38:13
Signed by four members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:38:16
Please rise for a standing vote of acceptance. 00:38:20
Thank you. 00:38:31
Commendation. 00:38:36
Of Rose Newman. 00:38:37
Whereas Rose Newman has contributed almost. 00:38:41
23 years of dedicated service to Dodge County and the citizens of Dodge County. 00:38:45
And whereas Dodge County and its citizens. 00:38:50
Have benefited from the service she has provided. 00:38:52
And whereas. 00:38:55
Rose Newman has chosen to retire from her present position of dining Site coordinator. 00:38:56
At the Human Services and Health Department. 00:39:02
And now, therefore, be it resolved that we, the Dodge County Board of Supervisors, pause in its deliberations. 00:39:04
To recognize and commend Rose Newman. 00:39:11
For her almost 23 years of meritorious service. 00:39:13
And be it further resolved. 00:39:16
That on behalf of the citizens of Dodge County, this board does herewith extend to her appreciation. 00:39:18
For her many accomplishments and successes over. 00:39:24
The almost 23 years of service. 00:39:28
And be it finally resolved that a copy of this resolution be entered into the official records of the Dodge County Board of 00:39:30
Supervisors. 00:39:34
And then a copy of this resolution be forwarded to Rose Newman as a token. 00:39:38
Of appreciation on the part of this board. 00:39:42
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 00:39:45
Signed by four members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:39:51
Please rise for. 00:39:55
Standing vote of acceptance. 00:39:57
Thank you. 00:40:06
Do you want to ask if there was? 00:40:07
Miss Rose here. 00:40:11
She rose. Is Rose here? No. 00:40:13
Resolution 25. 00:40:28
63. 00:40:30
A resolution recognizing Dodge County Medical Examiner's Office and observing. 00:40:35
Medica Legal death investigation professionals Week. 00:40:40
January 25th, 2026 through January 31st, 2026. 00:40:45
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 00:40:50
Signed by six members of the Dodge County Executive Committee. 00:40:56
I have a motion. 00:41:02
We're doing a rising bullet, OK? We're just doing this one, the rising vote also. 00:41:06
Please please rise for. 00:41:11
To any vote of acceptance. 00:41:13
Resolution 2564. 00:41:27
A resolution to establish salaries for the 2027 to 2030 term for the elected positions of Clerk of Circuit Court and Sheriff. 00:41:32
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 00:41:42
Signed by four members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:41:47
I have a motion by supervisor Beal. 00:41:51
And a second by Supervisor Klobuchar. 00:41:54
Supervisor Belk. 00:41:58
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:42:01
I'd like to divide the question into two separate. 00:42:03
Resolutions. 00:42:09
And I submitted this earlier to the. 00:42:11
Clerk. 00:42:13
Reading. 00:42:14
OK, the motion is to divide the question into suit 2 separate. 00:42:16
Votes. Is there a second? 00:42:20
Is there a second? 00:42:24
So we have a second by Supervisor Breslow. 00:42:28
Yep, we're getting it under. 00:42:31
Can I speak on the? 00:42:45
Is it coming up? 00:42:49
It'll OK. 00:42:51
Well, I see that, you know. 00:42:53
The sheriff's Sheriff's position is going to be a 32% raise over 4 years and the. 00:42:54
Clerk of Courts is 20%. 00:43:00
I think it's just. 00:43:02
Right to separate the. 00:43:04
Or divide the question. I'm not comfortable. 00:43:06
Voting as one group. 00:43:08
OK, the motion to divide is not debatable. 00:43:16
Are we ready to vote? 00:43:20
Yep, and then you can vote. 00:43:21
OK, if you agree with the. 00:43:28
The motion to divide the question please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:43:31
All having voted it. 00:43:43
Passes 22 to 6. 00:43:44
Now we just need a minute to enter the two items. 00:43:47
And then? 00:44:18
OK. And discuss. 00:44:45
We can take up the clerk, of course, So we will take the clerk of courts. 00:44:48
Resolution first. 00:44:53
So so they. 00:44:55
This is divided, so we still have the. 00:44:58
Go ahead, Kim. 00:45:02
I just want to point out. 00:45:03
When you divide the question. 00:45:06
Just consider the resolution. 00:45:08
For each. 00:45:10
Clerk of courts separate from the sheriff. 00:45:12
The only difference in the resolved clause I think you should be aware of. 00:45:14
Is the resolve clause with regard to WRS. 00:45:18
It's different for the clerk of court. 00:45:22
Than the sheriff. 00:45:24
So. 00:45:26
I just wanted to point that out. 00:45:27
WRS is a little different classification in that system. 00:45:29
So. 00:45:32
Just for the records, when you take up the Clerk of court, which you're going to do first, she's classified as an elected official 00:45:34
or that position is classified as an elected official. 00:45:38
Under WRS. 00:45:42
OK. 00:45:45
It's a different rating, so it's a different WRS contribution. 00:45:49
And the reason I just point that out is you know what? While the the. 00:45:52
I understand the reason for dividing the question. 00:45:57
When you ultimately. 00:46:00
What will be different? 00:46:02
Is when you approve for clerk of court, you're approving. 00:46:04
That her classification in WRS is for elected official when you vote. 00:46:07
For sheriff, you're voting. 00:46:11
Whatever the the percentage. 00:46:14
You vote on for either of these. 00:46:16
Is fine. 00:46:19
But the classification for WRS for the sheriff is protected with Social Security. 00:46:20
Just a little nuance, just understand the difference there. 00:46:26
That there's different. That's the only other difference. 00:46:29
Of course the. 00:46:32
The salary is going to be different for each. 00:46:33
All right. Thank you. 00:46:35
OK. 00:46:38
Jim Dewey. 00:46:41
Use the original. 00:46:42
1st and 2nd. 00:46:47
To go ahead. 00:46:48
OK. 00:46:50
OK. So the motion that is on the floor is for the. 00:46:54
Clerk of Courts. 00:46:59
OK. 00:47:06
Rob, do I speak again or sure? 00:47:08
I think you. 00:47:15
That's right there. You should. Hello. All right, Thank you. 00:47:17
I guess I need some clarification from one of the committee members. Is is? 00:47:22
How did you come up with the 20%? 00:47:26
For the clerk. 00:47:29
And also. 00:47:30
To 32%. 00:47:31
You know what? 00:47:33
For. 00:47:34
The sheriff, I mean, wouldn't it be more unified if we all came up with the same percentages rather than ones higher than the 00:47:35
other? And. 00:47:39
And not to mention, how is that to relate to the other? 00:47:42
Elected. 00:47:45
Positions in. 00:47:46
County as well. 00:47:47
Supervisor Beal, do you want to? 00:47:51
Sure, that was done by looking at. 00:47:55
Comparables of other counties. 00:47:58
And also by using the McGrath study. 00:48:01
And also looking at market? 00:48:05
And. 00:48:09
The wages that that were currently set. 00:48:10
Four years ago were much lower because we didn't know. 00:48:14
That, uh. 00:48:17
The increases that occurred the last few years. 00:48:19
With everybody else's wages were. 00:48:22
Going to happen. 00:48:24
You know, and when you start looking at. 00:48:26
The back history when there was 1 1/2 and 2%. 00:48:29
Increases given. 00:48:33
These elected. 00:48:35
Positions. 00:48:37
Fell behind. 00:48:39
And this was meant. 00:48:42
To do a catch up. 00:48:44
Knowing that then in future years. 00:48:46
That you wouldn't have to give that type of an increase. 00:48:50
But to get him closer to market. 00:48:53
That is why these. 00:48:56
Bigger increases were. 00:48:57
Put into place for the. 00:49:00
Upcoming election cycle. 00:49:01
Any other? 00:49:07
Questions. Comments. 00:49:08
Supervisor Hochen. 00:49:13
Thank you when I look at. 00:49:15
The background that you. 00:49:17
You put on this resolution. 00:49:18
It shows that the. 00:49:20
County Clerk. 00:49:22
The county treasurer and the registered deeds. 00:49:24
They did get a big jump in 25, but then it's 33 and 3. 00:49:27
And so. 00:49:31
If we give. 00:49:32
5. 00:49:33
Then that sort of puts that off. 00:49:35
And I, I think we're looking for compression here. 00:49:37
So I. 00:49:40
I just don't understand the five compared to the three and I understand that market argument. 00:49:43
But I think we need to have some consistency. 00:49:50
Thank you. 00:49:53
I'm going to take Supervisor Conway first before we go the second round. 00:49:58
Just thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a question regarding the the. 00:50:05
Current salaries. 00:50:09
Comparable to anyone of the other counties for the clerk. 00:50:11
Or for the sheriff at this point in time, I guess. Well, let's stay on the clerk. What is the? 00:50:14
Are they at the beginning of the top of the scale or are they at the bottom of the scale if we use them against the other 72 00:50:21
counties? 00:50:24
I think at this one where you just take the clerk who wants. 00:50:28
The answer, Cameron, are you? 00:50:32
Or John. 00:50:34
I wanted to give time to. 00:50:37
HR Director. 00:50:39
Yeah. 00:50:42
So comparable information was provided to the HR committee. Of all the counties that we have access to information for, we don't 00:50:51
have all of them. We have identified that there are comparable counties. We use that not only for the employee wages that we have 00:50:58
on the Dodge County compensation structure, we also use that in negotiations with our sworn association. Those comparables are 00:51:05
Green Lake, Columbia, Fond du Lac, Jefferson and. 00:51:12
Washington So those are the comparables that have been used. None of them have. 00:51:20
Rates out yet for. 00:51:26
That they have for the next four years. 00:51:28
So we're basing it on the information that they have as of 2026. And since we're talking about the Clerk of Courts, the Clerk of 00:51:31
Court position, if we look at an average of those counties, that's 88,964 compared to the Clerk of court right now at 87,795. 00:51:42
So it's about a 1.3% difference, but that's not including an increase that they're going to give going into 2027. 00:51:53
And into. 00:52:01
20 to 2030. So those are all the things that we look at. 00:52:02
Am I allowed to address? 00:52:08
The other question So. 00:52:10
I just want to point out that in the packet in the the cover letter, we included a compensation structure and for comparisons 00:52:12
wanted to show the difference between where the county clerk, register of deeds and county treasurer are in comparison of where. 00:52:20
McGrath would place these positions into our component structure. 00:52:29
Comp structure if they were employees. 00:52:33
As managers or department heads here at Dodge County and McGrath has placed those positions in pay grade N like Nancy. 00:52:36
And the clerk of Courts is in P. And I know we're not talking about the sheriff right now, but that's in V. 00:52:44
And in the. 00:52:49
Visual that had been provided. 00:52:52
The county clerk, register of deeds and county treasurer. 00:52:54
Are very close. 00:52:58
To being at what would be considered the equivalent of Step 4. 00:52:59
Which is one step away from market in our current pay structure. 00:53:03
And if you look at the clerk of court and the sheriff, they are both. 00:53:07
Below step one. 00:53:11
That is why there's a bigger difference between like a 3% raise versus a 5% raise because those two positions have some catch up 00:53:12
to do according to our compensation structure. 00:53:18
We don't use just one piece to look at. We're looking at all things we're looking at. 00:53:24
Our comp structure. 00:53:30
We're looking at other counties, so there are multiple things that are being considered. 00:53:31
OK. You want to follow up supervisor? 00:53:43
So that I just want to be clear so that there. 00:53:46
They are currently at. 00:53:48
Step one. 00:53:50
They're below. They're below step one. 00:53:52
They're below the equivalent. 00:53:54
What we have is 1. 00:53:56
So then, this is truly. 00:53:58
Yeah, trying to do a. 00:54:00
So it's not. 00:54:01
Correct. 00:54:13
Supervisor Belk. 00:54:15
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:54:18
One thing about market. 00:54:20
These are elected positions is really not about market. 00:54:23
Market is if you want the job, you're going to run for an election and you're going to win. 00:54:26
That's market. 00:54:30
McGrath Study. 00:54:31
Well, sometimes we use it and sometimes I we don't. 00:54:32
So I think it's kind of funny all of a sudden. Now we're gonna. 00:54:35
Look at some of those McGrath study stuff when we haven't used it in the past for other employees. 00:54:38
That's all I got. 00:54:43
Supervisor Breslow. 00:54:48
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:54:50
So from what I've gathered here from our. 00:54:53
Head of HR that we are currently 1.3%. 00:54:55
Behind. 00:54:59
And we want to. 00:55:00
Add 5%. 00:55:02
For that. 00:55:04
I mean, it seems like. 00:55:05
Little bit more than. 00:55:07
Necessary for a chomp. 00:55:08
I I have a hard time. 00:55:11
Giving these kind of raises that we continually are giving in this county. 00:55:13
That are paid for. 00:55:17
By people. 00:55:19
That are lucky to get 2 and 3% annual increases. 00:55:20
On their jobs. 00:55:23
Thank you. 00:55:26
Supervisor Guber. 00:55:28
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:55:31
I just want to clarify. 00:55:33
That the elected positions. 00:55:34
Are not. 00:55:37
In the wage scale. 00:55:39
And therefore you cannot say they are. 00:55:40
Below step one because they do not exist. 00:55:43
In the wage scale. 00:55:46
Am I correct? 00:55:47
These positions are not in our wage scale. 00:55:49
Yeah. 00:55:52
Correct, these positions are not on our wage scale, but so you can't say they're below step one because they don't even exist. 00:55:55
In the wage scale, right, we use a comparable based on what McGrath would recommend, where they would be if they were, as far as 00:56:03
their level of expertise that's needed to do their position, do their job, it's an equivalent. 00:56:10
So I'm gonna echo. 00:56:17
Supervisor Belks comment that it's interesting that we want to use McGrath at times and then we want to use comparables to other 00:56:20
counties. 00:56:23
And that's where this. 00:56:27
Shift is happening today. 00:56:28
You know, uh. 00:56:30
What we're gonna. 00:56:31
We're going to put them in the wage scale. 00:56:33
And. 00:56:36
I'm not sure what job descriptions were all used for. 00:56:37
The sheriff and the clerk of courts. 00:56:41
In order to create this. 00:56:44
Perceived V and. 00:56:46
And P classifications. 00:56:48
But uh. 00:56:50
I'm deeply. 00:56:51
Troubled by the fact that. 00:56:52
You you can look at a cost of living. 00:56:55
Over the last. 00:56:59
Umpteen years. 00:57:02
Certainly over the last 2-3 years. 00:57:03
And I don't think you'll see anything where it says the cost of living is 8%. 00:57:06
At least 8%. 00:57:10
Over the next four years. 00:57:13
Each and every year. 00:57:15
I I think we would all be crying. 00:57:19
If if everything went up 8%. 00:57:21
For each of the next four years. 00:57:26
I jeez, we, we, we, we kind of exhibited some of that. 00:57:29
Just about 12 months ago. 00:57:33
You know, Provisor Guckenberger, we're on the. 00:57:36
Clerk of Courts, which is. 00:57:40
Not it's whether it's 5 or it's 8%. It it it doesn't match. 00:57:42
Cost of living. 00:57:47
And that's, that's what bothers me about these proposals. I, I. 00:57:49
I don't know where the justification came. 00:57:56
From HR committee to say. 00:57:59
Our crystal ball says we need 5% and our crystal ball says we need 8%. 00:58:02
That I I don't understand that. 00:58:07
Can't support it either. 00:58:12
Thank you. 00:58:13
Anyone else? 00:58:15
Are we ready? OK, so, so just to be clear here. 00:58:21
We looked at the information we had available. 00:58:25
We looked at comparable counties. We looked at. 00:58:28
Comparable with McGrath if they were. 00:58:31
And we're not saying they are, but we're just comparing. We looked at a lot of information. 00:58:34
This is to. 00:58:40
Catch them up. 00:58:41
Because they. 00:58:42
If you look at the past increases, they haven't been. 00:58:44
You know, we want to talk about cost of living. They haven't even been at cost of living at times. 00:58:48
So we don't anticipate. 00:58:53
Having this continue. 00:58:55
Once they're caught up. 00:58:57
And if we? 00:58:59
Compare. 00:59:00
The other elected officials. 00:59:01
They're either. They're either. 00:59:03
At or, they're ahead of. 00:59:05
Where they would be, comparably speaking. 00:59:07
Which is, you know, I'm not complaining about that. 00:59:09
But then we have these two elected officials that are. 00:59:12
Behind. So what we're trying to do is we're trying to fix something. 00:59:14
And if you. 00:59:18
Don't feel comfortable voting for it? Then don't vote for it. 00:59:20
You know, we're just trying to do the best that we can. 00:59:23
As a committee. 00:59:26
Because. 00:59:27
Like we all are here. None of us are here to do a bad job. We're all here to do a good job. 00:59:28
The best job we can. And so we're just trying to do the best that we can so. 00:59:32
You know, vote with your conscience. Do. 00:59:36
You know. 00:59:38
Represent your district the best you can, just like we're all trying to do. 00:59:39
Supervisor Sigmund. 00:59:44
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:59:46
Yeah, it feels good to be a most generous county, most counties. 00:59:48
Gave a 3% cola. 00:59:53
For 2026 and we did a 5.25. 00:59:55
Why do we do that? We have a lot of spending going on. Are we planning on getting? 01:00:00
Going bankrupt in the next 5 years here. 01:00:04
Declining population. 01:00:08
There's different circumstances here that we have to take into consideration. 01:00:10
That other counties don't have to worry about. 01:00:15
And we better start just minding our. 01:00:18
Our money here a little better. 01:00:20
Or we are going to run into trouble. I I just think we should just back it down a little bit too. 01:00:23
Thank you. 01:00:28
Anyone else? 01:00:32
Supervisor Houchin. 01:00:35
Thank you. When budget was made was. 01:00:37
What was put in for these wages? 01:00:41
Were you planning on a bigger like? 01:00:44
And I have a problem. 01:00:48
I do have a problem. There we go. 01:00:50
I have a problem that. 01:00:52
We can't find money for Rose. 01:00:54
And that involves all people, but yet we can find money for these wages. 01:00:57
Thank you. 01:01:02
OK. Thank you. 01:01:04
Mr. Clapper, thank you. 01:01:06
I'm sorry, I was taking a. 01:01:08
Clarification I had asked Tanya for, but to the point about the budget. So this. 01:01:10
Change in wages. 01:01:15
Is effective in. 01:01:16
Next year. 01:01:18
2027. 01:01:19
So this year's budget does not include this. This is something that would be part of future budgets. 01:01:20
But if I may for just a couple. 01:01:28
Things that have been mentioned for clarification. 01:01:31
In the sake for the sake of. 01:01:34
Clarity with McGrath, we've used McGrath. 01:01:37
For any and every market. 01:01:40
Evaluation of a position as long as I've been here. 01:01:43
That is something that is standard for us. 01:01:46
No matter what position we're looking at, if we're evaluating a reclassification of the position. 01:01:50
Part built into that process is. 01:01:56
Utilizing the graph. 01:01:59
For doing their analysis of the market analysis, so they look at the position, the job duties and give us a market analysis, the 01:02:00
reason why we did that this time. 01:02:04
As well. 01:02:09
Beyond any. 01:02:10
Feedback or direction from from committee internally as staff to thinking about. 01:02:11
What does Dodge County? 01:02:17
Want to attract 4 elections and positions and. 01:02:21
What would be the way that? 01:02:24
That, if at all, people would be. 01:02:26
Able to hold accountable the individuals in those positions. 01:02:28
One of the ways to do that is make sure that you're paying a rate of pay. 01:02:31
That is equitable. 01:02:36
To the market rate for. 01:02:37
Similar duties or responsibilities elsewhere? 01:02:39
So that's one of the drivers for us talking about market at all. 01:02:42
From a staff perspective, even though they're not included on the wage. 01:02:46
Schedule. 01:02:50
And appreciate very much the concerns that are being brought up. 01:02:51
But one of the reasons for that is. 01:02:55
We also want to make sure that, you know someday when our sheriff or our clerk of courts move on to other things. 01:02:57
Are we an organization that is providing A sufficient level compensation to attract? 01:03:04
Others. 01:03:10
That are qualified to fill those roles. 01:03:10
Thank you. 01:03:14
Supervisor Gutenberg. 01:03:15
I'm make a motion to amend line 38. 01:03:17
Under. 01:03:23
2028 to three percent, 2029 to 3% in. 01:03:24
20-30 to. 01:03:28
3%. 01:03:29
OK, the the motion is to amend. 01:04:47
Line 38. 01:04:50
Changing the 5% to 3% across the board. 01:04:52
No, only 28. 01:04:57
29 and 30. 01:04:59
OK, 5% the first year? 01:05:01
And it's OK. 01:05:04
5333. 01:05:06
It's because it doesn't leave enough room. 01:05:10
OK, discussion on the amendment. 01:05:13
Yeah, Supervisor Bell expect seconded. 01:05:19
Supervisor band is in. 01:05:24
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:05:27
I was just gonna ask somebody to. 01:05:29
About. 01:05:32
Amending it to the same thing because if this is about catching up. 01:05:33
That's what it does if you put the 5% next year. 01:05:37
Then it catches them up and then everybody's. 01:05:40
Back to the 3%. 01:05:43
Then that's just for the clerk of courts here. 01:05:44
I think a lot of times we. 01:05:47
We get ourselves in a bind because we always talk about compression. 01:05:49
And we do it to ourself. 01:05:53
So, uh. 01:05:55
It's all got. Thank you. 01:05:56
Anyone else? 01:05:58
Anyone else? 01:06:03
OK, Supervisor Hedrick. 01:06:04
Thank you. 01:06:09
Could I ask someone from the committee to? 01:06:10
Speak to this the the catching up factor. Does 5% catch up? 01:06:13
Truly. And then? 01:06:18
3% maintain. 01:06:19
Are we speaking apples to apples? I I appreciate the effort you put into creating these tables. 01:06:22
Supervisor Bill or Supervisor Fray vote. 01:06:30
Well, I mean. 01:06:34
When we looked at this like 20 different ways. 01:06:37
You know. 01:06:40
And. 01:06:41
If we would have thought. 01:06:42
Based on the information we had that. 01:06:44
This. 01:06:46
Amendment was a good idea. 01:06:47
This is what we would have came with. 01:06:48
I mean, we wouldn't have. 01:06:51
Suggested 55 and five if. 01:06:53
Five and three would have done the job. 01:06:56
We're not. 01:06:58
Trying to spend more money than we have to. We're just trying to get things. 01:06:59
Caught up? 01:07:03
And we actually. 01:07:04
Kind of had an inkling this wouldn't be super popular. 01:07:05
You know, with like party streamers when we got here. 01:07:09
But we knew. 01:07:12
Like we we know this isn't. 01:07:14
Like fun. 01:07:16
Like I'm. 01:07:17
Probably the most conservative person on this board. I know some of you would like to argue with that, but. 01:07:18
I'm super conservative. I. 01:07:22
Pinched the Buffalo till it. 01:07:23
Oops. OK, on the on the nickel. 01:07:25
You know so. 01:07:27
We're just trying to get things caught up so they're good. 01:07:30
That's all we're trying to do, so. 01:07:33
Based on the information we had. 01:07:35
If we would have thought this would have been good, it would have already been like this so. 01:07:37
Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:07:45
Yeah, in defense of the motion. 01:07:48
The ketchup would exist. 01:07:52
So the perceived location below step one. 01:07:56
Would be resolved. 01:08:00
And then the raises would be comparable with what we do to the county clerk, the treasurer, and the register of deeds. 01:08:03
I know it's difficult. 01:08:10
To figure this stuff out because you got to lay these. 01:08:13
These salaries out four years in advance. 01:08:16
But by the same token, whoever runs for position like. 01:08:19
Much like all of us run for position. 01:08:22
And we're all elected. 01:08:25
We know what we're in for. 01:08:27
And you have to decide whether you're doing it for the money or you're doing it for the job. 01:08:30
I I I'm not sure. 01:08:34
Where these people decide? 01:08:37
When they put their name on the ballot. 01:08:40
But but certainly I'm not doing it for the money. 01:08:43
But. 01:08:48
I I think it's fair and reasonable. 01:08:50
And it's the same thing we're. 01:08:57
We're doing to our other elected officials. 01:08:59
In the county. 01:09:03
If if you want to take this one individual. 01:09:05
Or, you know, when we get to the second one and take that individual and treat them different than everybody else. 01:09:08
Then that's the policy that we're going to have. Otherwise we just treat everybody the same. 01:09:14
And that's what I think we're trying to do here. 01:09:19
Thank you. 01:09:21
Supervisor Bobbles. 01:09:23
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:09:26
When? 01:09:27
Everybody is thinking that we're going to catch up by doing. 01:09:28
The 533. 01:09:32
What HR. 01:09:35
Gave us was the 2026 comp. 01:09:36
Apprehension structure. 01:09:39
What we saw at our meeting. 01:09:44
Was. 01:09:46
What it should be for? 01:09:48
27. 01:09:50
What the recommendation? What it goes up to for 2829 and 30? 01:09:51
So sure, we're going to catch up. 01:09:56
In 27 for what? 01:09:58
26 is seen. 01:10:00
But if if we could get the information for all those other ones? 01:10:04
They could see that. 01:10:10
We're still not. We're still going to be quite a ways behind. 01:10:12
If we don't do. 01:10:17
By doing. 01:10:19
What we're? 01:10:21
What we were recommending at 55. 01:10:22
55. 01:10:25
It still is going to be. 01:10:27
A small. 01:10:29
Portion. 01:10:31
Short. 01:10:33
Of what the recommendation and to be perfectly honest with you, when I went into this meeting. 01:10:33
I had way lower. 01:10:40
Where we still would never have made it. 01:10:42
Close to market. 01:10:46
So if we could. 01:10:49
Maybe somehow give? 01:10:52
Those numbers? 01:10:54
I'm going to go ahead with. 01:11:00
With Supervisor Conway and then we'll come back. 01:11:02
Supervisor Connery, Thank you, Mr. Chair, I just. 01:11:05
You know the Clerk of Courts will be retiring shortly, so. 01:11:09
I understand that people when they decide to. 01:11:13
Run for a position, they they know what that's going to be and they make their decisions. 01:11:16
However, I also know that when I ran for this position, it wasn't. 01:11:22
I didn't consider the money because it wasn't putting bread on the table. I don't make a living off this position. 01:11:26
And these folks do. 01:11:33
So, umm. 01:11:34
To me it was just something to consider. Thank you. 01:11:36
Supervisor Frivol. 01:11:40
Yeah, I just wanted to address we were talking about wanting. 01:11:42
Treat all the elected officials the same. And that's exactly. 01:11:45
Why we came with the recommendations we came with because the other elected officials, when we run this same comparisons on them. 01:11:49
Are in much. 01:11:56
Much more favorable positions on the comparisons and that's why we're trying to do what we're trying to do is to treat everybody 01:11:57
equally. 01:12:01
Period. 01:12:06
Supervisor Belk. 01:12:07
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:12:10
I'm just wondering if anybody on the committee actually went out and called any other counties or they just slowly relied on the 01:12:12
HR provide them with the five counties that. 01:12:16
They had. 01:12:20
Supervisor Beal. 01:12:26
To answer that question, no, I did not call other counties. If I can trust the people that we employ here, there's a big issue. 01:12:28
But. 01:12:37
As far as comparables from. 01:12:37
Other counties I have Columbia County who is a comparable to Dodge. 01:12:40
And. 01:12:45
They're recommending. 01:12:46
An increase in their Their. 01:12:50
Clerk of Courts for the First year 95. 01:12:52
645189851454. 01:12:56
10146997 and then the final year 10454. 01:13:00
Teen, 07. 01:13:06
When you look at what we're. 01:13:08
Recommending what? The 5%? 01:13:12
We're still. 01:13:15
Below umm. 01:13:16
It's up for in the final year, then we finally catch up. 01:13:18
And it's seated by $2000. 01:13:24
Here anyone else? 01:13:31
Cameron. 01:13:36
If I may, Mr. Chair, just one more point to add to what Supervisor Bill had shared. So in the. 01:13:38
In the material for the packet. 01:13:43
And now that I want to share that I'm. 01:13:47
Not not finding my e-mail with it. 01:13:50
With that information. 01:13:53
And in any case, the one of the illustrations it's the color table. 01:13:54
Of information regarding where. 01:13:58
It shows 5 different steps. 01:14:01
And then it shows. 01:14:03
In blue with a circle it shows. 01:14:05
The. 01:14:08
The rate for. 01:14:09
The where our current. 01:14:10
Standing for registered of deeds. 01:14:13
Treasurer. 01:14:16
County Clerk. 01:14:17
Sit with the wage schedule and you'll note that they are at Step 4. 01:14:18
So Step 4 is still one step below what the actual market rate is for a position, which is what we were mentioning before. 01:14:23
So keeping someone in the pay schedule in the pay scale. 01:14:30
By moving as has been proposed as. 01:14:34
Great. 01:14:37
The the difference that was aimed for when we started. 01:14:38
At least from staff providing information to the HR committee was. 01:14:43
What do we do to make sure that? 01:14:47
And of course, now thinking of the clerk of Courts. 01:14:50
Bring that position also in line with the registered deeds, the county clerk and the. 01:14:53
Treasure. That's kind of what we were thinking so. 01:14:58
If that's the case, that's I think. 01:15:01
Part of the. 01:15:03
The issue to help with what? 01:15:04
Supervisor Bubbles was saying. 01:15:07
It's over the course of the entire span of years to arrive at a. 01:15:10
At a spot that is above step one. 01:15:13
And. 01:15:16
Is moving those positions. 01:15:18
Kind of the same direction as the. 01:15:20
The other three I mentioned. 01:15:21
Supervisor Clarkov. 01:15:24
My understanding is that the sheriff makes. 01:15:27
Just to put this in perspective, but he's making captain's wages and I think his chief deputy is actually making more than the 01:15:31
sheriff. We're we're only on the. 01:15:34
On the clerk of court right now, my point is those. 01:15:38
If we're trying to. 01:15:41
Do a catch up. 01:15:43
Don't we also want to make it? 01:15:44
Fair, you can't. 01:15:46
There would be no department head that. 01:15:48
In our county, that would make. 01:15:50
Less than a subordinate. 01:15:52
OK. Anyone else? 01:16:00
If you agree. 01:16:03
With the amendment. 01:16:05
To go 5333. 01:16:06
You vote yes. 01:16:08
If you do not agree with the amendment, you vote no. 01:16:09
Thank you. 01:16:13
All having voted. 01:16:24
It fails 10 yes, 18 no. 01:16:26
We are back to the original. 01:16:31
Resolution. 01:16:34
As presented. 01:16:38
Brittany, come here. 01:16:47
OK, I think we're back. 01:16:59
Supervisor Clarker, do you want to speak on? 01:17:01
The original. 01:17:04
OK, super stagger. 01:17:07
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:17:11
I just wanted to say that these these raises are substantial. 01:17:13
And non elected officials were not giving raises like that to them. So I. 01:17:17
Can't go along with this. Thank you. 01:17:21
OK. 01:17:29
OK. Anyone else? 01:17:33
Supervisor Beal. 01:17:37
I just want to point out that when you talk about. 01:17:39
The other elected officials in in Dodge County here. 01:17:42
Their wages are not being considered at this time because it's not their election cycle. 01:17:46
The only reason that that. 01:17:52
The clerk of courts and the sheriff is being considered as their next election cycle is coming up. 01:17:55
For 2027. 01:18:02
The other. 01:18:05
Four positions. 01:18:06
Are due to be reviewed. 01:18:08
So that's that's why the other. 01:18:12
Officials aren't being looked at at this time. 01:18:14
OK. 01:18:20
The resolution on the floor is it as it was originally with the 5555. 01:18:21
If you agree, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:18:28
All having voted, it passes 16 to 12. 01:18:42
Now we will be taking up the. 01:18:57
Divided question. 01:18:59
And the sheriff's salary. 01:19:03
The motion that's on the floor. 01:19:06
Is as it is printed. 01:19:08
With the 8%? 01:19:10
Any comments or questions? 01:19:24
On this resolution. 01:19:26
Supervisor Belk. 01:19:30
All right. Thank you. 01:19:32
I did some research today actually. 01:19:34
Pretty extensive research. 01:19:36
On to share a salary. 01:19:38
And the average in the state for sheriff's. 01:19:40
According to zip, required was $112,000 and that's more or that's a little bit. 01:19:43
Less than what our sheriff currently makes. 01:19:48
The national average is. 01:19:50
100 and. 01:19:52
13,000. 01:19:55
And then I actually called the city of Madison today and asked what their police chief makes and. 01:19:57
The He's right around 114,000 when our. 01:20:02
Makes and. 01:20:05
That's a population of 250,000. 01:20:06
Milwaukee's even less than what our current sheriff's position is right now. 01:20:09
I mean. 01:20:14
We got some problems here at the colony. 01:20:15
Obviously we're broke if we're using sales tax money to. 01:20:19
To the fund operational costs for certain departments. 01:20:22
You know, for our sheriff, I mean, by statute, he's only in charge of the jail. 01:20:27
We've given Max your powers that. 01:20:31
To be in charge of other things. 01:20:33
But if something happened, if he was indicted or or or left. 01:20:36
And we had to get a position. 01:20:40
Filled from a From a sheriff's perspective, as a. 01:20:42
Appointment or another special election? 01:20:45
I think they would. Anybody would want to take this job for the amount of money they're making. Compared to what? 01:20:48
The average residence in Dodge County make. 01:20:52
Other staff. 01:20:55
I just don't understand. 01:20:56
A 32% raise. 01:20:59
Over 4 years. 01:21:00
It just, it just blows my mind. 01:21:02
Supervisor Gukinberger. 01:21:07
I have an amendment moved to amend line 38. 01:21:10
2829 and 30 to 3%. 01:21:15
The motion is by Supervisor Gurkenberger. We have a second by Supervisor Breslow. 01:21:24
OK. Thank you. 01:21:30
They don't have it in yet. 01:21:56
OK. Any comments, questions, comments on the amendment? 01:22:18
Supervisor Houchin. 01:22:25
Thank you. I I. 01:22:26
Do you like the amendment? 01:22:28
I did some research too and. 01:22:30
Found out that. 01:22:33
The governor only makes 160. 01:22:34
In four years, our sheriff. 01:22:37
But because that. 01:22:39
A DA averages anywhere from. 01:22:41
90 something to 119. 01:22:45
And I just think that. 01:22:48
This 3% is more in line. 01:22:51
I think. 01:22:54
One thing we need to remember an elected official. 01:22:55
Does not have to come to work anytime they don't want to come to work. 01:22:58
They don't have a signed. 01:23:02
Days they have to be. If they want to take a vacation, they can take a vacation. 01:23:05
They can do. 01:23:08
That whenever. So that's something else when we look at some of these others. 01:23:10
And one of my problems is there's going to be compression. 01:23:14
So I think we need to stick with the 3%. 01:23:18
Because everybody else is going to want 80% if we don't. 01:23:21
Thank you. 01:23:24
Supervisor Hedrick. 01:23:27
Thank you. 01:23:29
I have a question of clarification. Corp council mentioned earlier about WRS contributions and for the Sheriff it's different. 01:23:30
Just out of curiosity, what are the? 01:23:39
For the elected position. 01:23:43
I. 01:23:53
So WRS has various. 01:23:56
Percentages. 01:23:59
And so they vary by elected official, they vary by general employee. 01:24:00
And I can look up WRS. 01:24:05
The state sets these every year. 01:24:07
The range between like 6 and 8%. 01:24:11
But I can look it up if you give me one minute please. 01:24:14
All of that sort of thing, all of the other. 01:24:20
Associated. 01:24:22
Yeah, so for elected officials? 01:24:24
Supervisor Houchin mentioned it. There's no vacation. 01:24:26
There's not like a vacation bank, There's no PTO, there's no sick time. Umm. 01:24:30
But what what you would see would be regular payroll expenses like WRS. It would be. 01:24:35
Like FICA? 01:24:41
Federal and state withholding. 01:24:42
Your standard withholdings and payroll, but there's no like fringe benefits if you will. 01:24:44
Other than the WRS. 01:24:49
Yes, and the the electives are eligible for. 01:24:52
The county health insurance. 01:24:55
If they wish to. 01:24:57
Participate in that. 01:24:58
So. 01:25:00
Employer costs so for the general employees. 01:25:09
And elected. 01:25:13
The employer cost would be 7.2%. 01:25:14
And for the protective, which would be Sheriff? 01:25:18
Protective with Social Security it's 14.7. 01:25:20
Percent. 01:25:24
With the duty disability, which is another. 01:25:26
.1%. 01:25:29
So I misspoke. 01:25:30
Because I thought it was between 6 and 8%. 01:25:32
But the protective for sheriff is is higher. 01:25:35
And So what I meant to say before and I probably wasn't really clear. 01:25:38
When when you divided the question. 01:25:41
You could consider. 01:25:44
The resolution as written. 01:25:45
But when you vote on clerk of court, for instance, you would omit that section. 01:25:47
Regarding the sheriff. 01:25:52
In protective status and then when you vote on sheriff, you're going to omit the clerk of court section on page 2 resolved clause 01:25:53
for WRS. Just so you know all those WRS rates are set by the state and. 01:25:59
It's actually set by statute as well. 01:26:05
Employers are going to pay that no matter what. You you can't opt out, which is not an option to say oh I I want to pay the 01:26:08
sheriff the general employee WRS rate. 01:26:13
It is what it is and that's what you're going to pay. 01:26:17
Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:26:24
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:26:26
You know, I, I have to go back to this McGrath comparison because I, I find it absolutely ludicrous. 01:26:29
Because the requirements for a sheriff. 01:26:37
In the state of Wisconsin is. 01:26:40
A high school degree. 01:26:42
18 years of age. 01:26:44
And not have committed a felony. 01:26:46
Pretty much. 01:26:51
You don't have to have a. 01:26:52
A masters degree or a. 01:26:54
A PhD. 01:27:00
OK, so to say. 01:27:01
Hey, this guy's way down here on the scale of like the V. 01:27:04
Almost like he's a doctor or something. 01:27:07
I don't get it. 01:27:10
OK, it doesn't make sense to me. 01:27:12
So to try to put him in the skill there. 01:27:14
Or her. 01:27:17
Her in this scale there or that title in the skill it just. 01:27:17
Doesn't make sense. 01:27:20
So. 01:27:23
All I'm saying is. 01:27:25
You, you know we're going to. 01:27:26
Give this guy. 01:27:28
This position an 8%. 01:27:31
Bump and then. 01:27:34
3% per year after that. 01:27:36
And much like any other position, if. 01:27:39
If, if if I go to. 01:27:42
Apply for a job and I don't like the terms and conditions of the employment. 01:27:45
Don't apply. 01:27:51
It's very simple. 01:27:53
OK. 01:27:55
And and that's what we're here to do. We're we're here to lay out the the salary. 01:27:57
And the benefits? 01:28:02
For the next 4 years for this position. 01:28:03
And we do that well enough in advance so that. 01:28:06
Anybody can decide whether or not they want that position. 01:28:09
It's not a matter of comparing this position to everybody else. 01:28:13
It's it's merely the sheriff. 01:28:17
That's the position. 01:28:20
It's not the sheriff against the deputy, it's not the sheriff against the captains, it's just that position which has very 01:28:21
specific responsibilities. 01:28:26
Remember, he keeps telling us he's a constitutional officer. He knows. 01:28:31
What jobs and duties he's got to perform. 01:28:35
But much like what said earlier, he doesn't have to show up for work any day. 01:28:38
He's got unlimited PTO. 01:28:42
Right. 01:28:45
We provide him. 01:28:45
A personal vehicle to use however he wants. 01:28:47
So. 01:28:51
I think. 01:28:54
Supervisor Breslow. 01:28:56
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I. 01:28:58
I feel that the amendments. 01:29:00
More than reasonable. 01:29:02
It's, you know, we can talk about vacation PTO. 01:29:04
PTO and all that business well. 01:29:08
The annual salary is divided by the number of pay periods. 01:29:10
And that. 01:29:14
Pay is the same for every pay period. 01:29:15
Whether the? 01:29:18
Sheriff is in the office. 01:29:20
Out of the office. 01:29:21
Or wherever they are. 01:29:22
That paycheck is the same. 01:29:24
Every time it comes. 01:29:26
So. 01:29:28
I don't. 01:29:30
Think we should be looking and saying well geez, he doesn't get vacation, he does get vacation. 01:29:31
That that position gets vacation based on. 01:29:36
Getting the same pay every pay period. 01:29:39
If we're going to compare. 01:29:41
To deputies and things of that nature, while we also have to consider those positions probably or. 01:29:43
Getting a fair amount of overtime. 01:29:48
So I agree that. 01:29:51
If a person doesn't feel that the income is going to be enough for the position, don't run. 01:29:54
And I can tell you what I've been around here for a couple election cycles and I don't think the wages. 01:29:58
Are what's going to hold candidates back. 01:30:04
Thank you. 01:30:06
Supervisor Frivol. 01:30:09
Hey, I just again, I just want to say the same criteria that we used. 01:30:11
To for this recommendation is the exact same criteria we used. 01:30:15
For the clerk of court. 01:30:20
The only difference? 01:30:23
Why this is was recommended at 8 instead of 5 was because it's further behind. 01:30:24
Just to be clear. 01:30:30
OK, it's the exact same criteria. 01:30:31
So if you thought the clerk of courts. 01:30:34
Was fair. 01:30:36
Just know that this is this was done the exact. 01:30:38
Same way. 01:30:41
Supervisor Belk. 01:30:45
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:30:47
I don't think that he's behind at all. 01:30:50
I think that he's right where he should be. 01:30:52
I mean. 01:30:54
Madison, you're gonna be me. He's gonna be making more than. 01:30:55
The City of Madison police chief with 250,000 people. 01:30:59
Milwaukee. 01:31:02
County Sheriff. He's gonna make more in him. 01:31:03
What are we doing? 01:31:06
Come on. 01:31:07
Wake up, we're broke. 01:31:08
We got no money. 01:31:09
This is why we have operational costs and we're using sales tax funds. This is ridiculous. 01:31:11
Supervisor Bill. 01:31:17
Just want to point out. 01:31:18
For comparables, Columbia County. 01:31:20
For their sheriff for the upcoming. 01:31:23
Term. 01:31:25
They're going to start out at one 39649. 01:31:26
And $0.37. 01:31:31
Move up to 14687. 01:31:33
Eight in 36 sons. 01:31:36
3rd year $155,656.29 and on the. 01:31:40
4th Year 164,350. 01:31:46
43. 01:31:50
When you look at our comparable that we put. 01:31:51
Out there at 8%. 01:31:55
We're still not coming close to other counties, and that wasn't in 10. 01:31:57
The intent was to to at least bring them somewhat. 01:32:02
Close. 01:32:06
Without. 01:32:08
Even. 01:32:11
We're not. 01:32:12
Do the comparables, we're not going to do the market. 01:32:13
We're not there. 01:32:18
And this was only meant to. 01:32:20
Get the wages brought up. 01:32:22
So that when people do run for that office. 01:32:24
You attract qualified people. 01:32:29
You gotta remember that. 01:32:32
We gotta remove them. 01:32:34
Kern Person. 01:32:35
That holds this office out of. 01:32:37
He may not win reelection. 01:32:39
For all you know, I could win that election next time. 01:32:42
And and. 01:32:45
So we got to just. 01:32:46
Make sure that we. 01:32:47
Look at this. 01:32:50
For the position. 01:32:52
And not for the person that. 01:32:54
Currently holds that office. 01:32:55
Supervisor. 01:32:59
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I. 01:33:01
I know there's a lot of numbers being tossed around here, but. 01:33:03
I'm somewhat familiar with the city of Milwaukee, and I know that the police chief there makes 243. 01:33:06
So if we're looking at comparables, Madison police chief is 151, the 204. 01:33:11
And I think I I have to kind of agree with. 01:33:18
Chairman Guggener, it's really about what our sheriff is. 01:33:21
And where? 01:33:25
We expect them. 01:33:27
This pay scale to be in the county. 01:33:28
I also agree with. 01:33:31
Supervisor. 01:33:34
Trivolt. 01:33:35
If it was. 01:33:38
The same. 01:33:39
Thought process went into both positions. 01:33:42
And we just approved the one. 01:33:44
Because we felt it was correct. 01:33:47
Just seems. 01:33:50
Realistic to. 01:33:52
Think of this one the same. 01:33:54
Thank you. 01:33:55
Supervisor Sigmund. 01:33:57
Alright, thank you very much. 01:33:59
I'm just amazed how we're letting other counties spend our money. For us, that just is. 01:34:01
Just it boggles my mind because. 01:34:06
We're here to do our accounting business. We're not here to just try to keep up with everybody. We're here to do what's best for 01:34:08
this county and what's best for our. 01:34:12
The people that voted us in here and we sort of forget about that. 01:34:15
We're afraid that if somebody leaves, we're not going to find anybody qualified. 01:34:20
As we heard, qualified to do what? 01:34:24
Run a jail. 01:34:27
That's qualifications, that's what he has to do. 01:34:28
How many lawsuits has our jail been in the last year? 01:34:32
Two years? Three years. Anybody ever checked that out? 01:34:35
You should sometime. 01:34:37
Why did we have to raise our Emergency Management fund by $200,000 this year for legal fees? Nobody said why, but we were supposed 01:34:40
to just do it. 01:34:44
Mr. Mr. Sigmund, I wouldn't go there if I was you. 01:34:48
OK, I won't then. 01:34:51
#3. 01:34:54
Dodge County is very rural. 01:34:57
So we are a really nice place. 01:35:00
To be a sheriff. 01:35:03
We aren't like Milwaukee like we've heard there. 01:35:05
We'll leave it at that. 01:35:13
Thank you. 01:35:14
OK. 01:35:18
Supervisor Klobuchar. 01:35:20
I'm one of the newest members to the HR committee, so sometimes I don't feel like. 01:35:22
I'm caught up on everything that they've known for, all the terms they have been on here. 01:35:27
But when we heard in our last meeting. 01:35:32
That the sheriff. 01:35:35
Position was like 32% lower than surrounding counties, never mind Milwaukee, Rhinelander, you know throughout the whole state. But 01:35:36
around here that if you want to find somebody, they can easily look around here to get what they want if it's not Dodge County. 01:35:45
And I think by giving the sheriff's position 8%, we work in the next 4 years to bringing it up to the 32%. 01:35:53
That that position is behind it doesn't catch that position up. 01:36:02
To give a token 8% the first year and then drop it down to 3, three and three, which is only a total percentage of 17%. 01:36:07
So I think it's. 01:36:17
I would be voting. 01:36:19
For the 8% for four years. 01:36:20
Supervisor Brezza. 01:36:25
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:36:27
8% is a far cry. 01:36:28
From a token. 01:36:31
Thank you. 01:36:32
One last time, Supervisor Guckenburg. 01:36:37
This is the only second time on my motion but. 01:36:40
Thank you. 01:36:43
Just because I had requested and received. 01:36:45
Some of the documents that the HR committee had received. 01:36:49
Comparables. 01:36:52
Strictly for the sheriff position. 01:36:55
The the sheriff's wages for 2026. 01:36:59
At present. 01:37:02
Would rank him 31 out of. 01:37:04
Of 1449. 01:37:06
That would be. 01:37:09
Actually in the wrong direction. I would say there's there's 30. 01:37:15
Sheriffs that make less. 01:37:20
Than our current sheriff in 18 that make more than him. 01:37:22
For the chart that I had received. 01:37:27
I think. 01:37:30
Somebody had mentioned that it's. 01:37:32
The average salary for sheriff's in the state. 01:37:34
I I, I think we pay. 01:37:38
Of Fair wage to the to the. 01:37:40
Current position. 01:37:43
And. 01:37:45
Targeting an 8%. 01:37:46
Raise would create a lot of ketchup. 01:37:48
And. 01:37:53
Providing a 3% for each of the next three years is very comparable. 01:37:54
To what everybody else has. 01:37:59
In the state. 01:38:01
And it matches the cost of living. 01:38:02
That has been exhibited over the last 2-3 years. 01:38:05
Thank you. 01:38:08
OK, if you agree with the amendment. 01:38:14
5333. 01:38:18
Please vote yes. 01:38:21
8333. 01:38:24
8333. 01:38:26
Please vote yes if you do not. 01:38:29
Please vote no. 01:38:31
All having voted, that passes 15 to 13. 01:38:41
So we are now back to the original. 01:38:48
As amended. 01:38:51
So will we be voting? 01:38:53
On the resolution as. 01:38:55
8333. 01:38:57
Can you explain that one more time? What are we voting on right now? We now are voting on the. 01:39:06
Resolution as amended. 01:39:11
So that the amendment. 01:39:15
Made the resolution 8333. 01:39:17
We voted on the amendment when you have to vote on the. 01:39:21
Resolution as amended. 01:39:24
Are you ready? 01:39:35
OK. Any questions? 01:39:37
OK. And as you if you understand it, we're voting on the resolution as amended. 01:39:40
The salary would be 8333. 01:39:46
If you agree. 01:39:49
Vote yes if you do not vote no. 01:39:50
All having voted, it passes 21 to 7. 01:40:02
Resolution 2565. 01:40:10
Resolution authorizing the engagement of enterprise fleet management for fleet management and maintenance services. 01:40:18
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February 2026. Signed by. 01:40:28
Five members of the executive committee. 01:40:37
Finance Committee review. 01:40:41
February 2nd, 2026. Initialed by Finance Committee Chair. 01:40:43
Fiscal Note This item will have no fiscal impact, enterprise management fees and auxiliary costs. 01:40:48
Will be processed within the 2026 budget of. 01:40:55
700. 01:40:58
$700,168 for new vehicles. 01:40:59
Including approximately 8250 for management fees and proceeds from the auctioning of old and replace county vehicles. 01:41:04
Have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger and a second by Supervisor Miller. 01:41:13
Questions or comments to praise the Gruenberger you want to speak on your? 01:41:20
Motion. 01:41:25
This is coming as if it came from me. 01:41:29
Is that what you're saying? 01:41:31
Because it was signed by the entire executive committee. 01:41:33
OK. 01:41:36
This this came several times to exec. 01:41:38
First it it appeared to be that we were going to lease our vehicles, but ultimately it's just merely. 01:41:44
A fleet management program that would be. 01:41:49
Put through by Enterprise. 01:41:53
Enter. 01:41:56
A high end company. 01:41:58
Has a lot of experience I I truly believe this is a good. 01:42:00
A move for Dodge County. 01:42:04
In as much as the number of vehicles that we. 01:42:09
Buy and sell. 01:42:12
Every year. 01:42:14
There's a a cost associated. 01:42:17
With each. 01:42:20
Vehicle. 01:42:21
And it is our intent to. 01:42:23
Engage Enterprise for one year. 01:42:26
With roughly, I believe it's 15 to 20 vehicles. 01:42:30
Total cost would be around $8000. 01:42:35
And then after one year, we would evaluate. 01:42:39
How this program is working for Dodge County and we would either expand it or get rid of it. 01:42:43
Personally, I believe it's it's a good thing we we have. 01:42:51
Employees that spend a fair amount of time dealing with old vehicles. 01:42:55
And all they need to do once we get the. 01:42:59
Of fleet management once we get enterprise engages just make one phone call and the vehicle be picked up and. 01:43:02
Taken care of. 01:43:08
So. 01:43:11
Thank you. 01:43:13
Anyone else? 01:43:14
Supervisor Johnson. 01:43:15
Yeah, to add a little bit to supervisor Guckenberger, it's the the main thing and we debated this quite a bit at executive as he 01:43:17
had mentioned, this is a professionally managed fleet right now we. 01:43:22
We have different department heads that buy the car. They're not professional people. Yes, they get government pricing, but for 01:43:28
example, this year on the sheriff's cars, I think. 01:43:32
I think the number is about 5200 right off the top savings, so. 01:43:36
Our $8700 cost is already down to just a few $1000. It'll some years I think this will be just for one year. But I think as we 01:43:40
studied this some years it's possible it could cost us a little and other years we could come out on the head. But what the big 01:43:45
benefit of this is. 01:43:49
Is a professionally managed. 01:43:54
Fleet that we are getting the optimum purchasing price, the optimum selling price, the optimum timing of both. 01:43:56
And the optimum of detailed maintenance and follow up right now the way we do it, we just. 01:44:04
I mean, I suppose there are some counties that have a system, but this is very efficient the way the quality of our fleet would be 01:44:10
managed. 01:44:13
So I am very much for this and we have a chance to reevaluate it in a year and see how the numbers come out. 01:44:17
And. 01:44:23
I I think it is going to be good, so I am voting in favor of this. 01:44:24
Supervisor Conway. 01:44:28
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to add that the Executive Committee debated this. 01:44:30
Strongly. 01:44:35
Over several discussions and. 01:44:38
It came to the board because in the long run we did realize that it is what we do. 01:44:42
Would be best for the county and it's best for the different. 01:44:47
Divisions within the county. 01:44:50
That we will have a professionally. 01:44:52
Run fleet maintenance program. 01:44:55
And fleet. 01:44:58
Thank you, Sir. 01:44:59
Supervisor. 01:45:06
Thank you. 01:45:08
Hope all of you got a chance to. 01:45:10
Watch the exec committee debate. It was very enlightening. A lot of. 01:45:12
Points brought up. That's why we record these meetings, so you can. 01:45:16
Get a view of it. The only question that. 01:45:20
Wasn't answered. I thought was. 01:45:22
How can you determine what? 01:45:24
The profit is. 01:45:26
If you just compare. 01:45:29
Savings based upon what was budgeted for the vehicle versus what you actually paid because as was brought up at that meeting. 01:45:31
When a budget goes in place, they kind of figure 5010 thousand extra just to make sure they have enough budgeted. 01:45:38
But when you figure that number against what it costs, that might be a. 01:45:46
Savings, that is sort of. 01:45:51
Not realistic, so I didn't know if there was an answer to that question or not. I didn't see one. 01:45:53
At that meeting and it looked like the next meeting wasn't requ. 01:45:59
Wasn't recorded and if I may have been answered then or not I don't know. So I didn't know if anybody. 01:46:03
Knew anything about that? 01:46:08
Supervisor Houchin. 01:46:12
I just wondered, are we doing? 01:46:15
We're only doing a. 01:46:17
Some vehicles. 01:46:18
Time. Am I correct, Annette? 01:46:20
Yeah, they're the. 01:46:21
The actual is. 01:46:23
Basically, it's based on 15 vehicles that the Sheriff's Department. 01:46:24
For a total cost of $9000 if. 01:46:29
For one year. 01:46:31
So highway is not involved at all? Highway is not involved. Thank you. 01:46:32
Mr. Clapper, just for clarification, so of those vehicles, there are 15. They're not all exclusively sheriff. They are. 01:46:39
So there are vehicles I believe also from highway. 01:46:47
But. 01:46:50
For certain, there are more than just the. 01:46:51
Sheriff, we have vehicles. 01:46:54
Elsewhere in Dodge County that that would also be included. 01:46:58
In the program, but I can't speak to the specific amount or a specific number of and from which department. I just know that it's. 01:47:01
10 are squad cars. 01:47:08
The rest are. 01:47:09
Not necessarily sheriff's. 01:47:11
Just to clarify. Thank you. 01:47:15
I think you still correct it. 01:47:16
We're talking about non CDL vehicles so. 01:47:19
Not much going on in the highway department. 01:47:21
For non CDL vehicles. 01:47:24
Super Fraser Brill. 01:47:27
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:47:28
So just clarify now this. 01:47:30
The amount of money that we're spending that is just for management of our maintenance or is that including? 01:47:33
Maintenance. 01:47:40
It is management. 01:47:41
Thank you. 01:47:48
Anyone else? 01:47:50
OK, if you if you agree with the with the recommendation of the committee, please vote yes if you do not. 01:47:53
Please vote no. 01:47:59
All having voted, it passes 27 to 1. 01:48:07
Resolution. 01:48:13
2566. 01:48:14
Resolution supporting legislation to enact. 01:48:16
Sustainable transportation funding. 01:48:20
All but just respectfully submitted this 11th day of February 2026. 01:48:23
Signed by six members of the Dodge County Executive Committee. 01:48:28
And there is no fiscal note. 01:48:34
I have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger, second by Supervisor Burnett. 01:48:37
Any questions on this? 01:48:43
This is. 01:48:46
Basically. 01:48:47
So go ahead, Supervisor Johnson. Yeah, we would just got back from the ledge conference. Dave and I were in at. I believe there's 01:48:49
40. Is there about 40 counties, Dave, on this? About 40 counties have passed this already. 01:48:55
And that our top. 01:49:00
Our top leaders of our government in Wisconsin said you know that that really impacts their decision making today. They told us 01:49:02
they know this is a priority coming up. 01:49:07
We're not the only county that has this need. 01:49:11
And they're trying really hard to get all, all the counties and that'll make a very strong, powerful statement as they approach 01:49:14
the next budget cycle so that that we're in the context of working with already 40 counties. And now we'll be, I think the 41st or 01:49:19
second county doing this. So we do want to send that strong statement because us lobbying alone is not, is not going to be enough 01:49:25
that that's a, it's a big, it's a big problem. 01:49:30
The the the amount they have been giving us and to all the counties has not kept up with inflation and the the cost of roads is 01:49:37
far exceeded. 01:49:41
So the problem we're feeling here in our county is a bigger problem than just. 01:49:45
Trained to squeeze another dollar out of. 01:49:50
Some other department or something It's it's a much bigger problem that the real problem and the scope of this problem is. 01:49:53
Roads costs have a higher. 01:49:59
You know, higher costs over the last several years if you look at a chart compared to the roads the actual expenses were 01:50:01
incurring. So I strongly support this and and I and I do think we're going to make some progress on the legislative front. Thank 01:50:06
you. 01:50:11
Anyone else? 01:50:18
If you agree with the. 01:50:21
Recommendation. 01:50:22
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:50:24
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 01:50:33
Resolution. 01:50:43
2567. 01:50:44
Resolution supporting legislation creating a state individual disaster relief assistance program. 01:50:47
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 01:50:54
Signed by six members of the Dodge Party Executive Committee. And there's no fiscal loan. 01:51:00
By Supervisor Guckenberger. Second by Supervisor Burnett. 01:51:07
Any comments on this one? 01:51:12
Any comments? 01:51:18
If you agree with the resolution, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:51:20
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 01:51:29
Resolution 2568. 01:51:35
2026 Dodge County Highway Department budget amendment. Wisconsin Department of Transportation funding brine system replacement. 01:51:39
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 01:51:50
Signed by five members of the Dodge County Highway Committee. 01:51:55
Fiscal note. 01:51:59
Wisconsin Department of Transportation is funding the purchase of a state owned brine maker. 01:52:02
And Brian Holding takes. 01:52:08
The 2026 Dodge County budget will increase by revenues and expenses in the amount of $200,000. 01:52:10
No county funds will be used for the purchase. 01:52:17
Finance Committee review date February 2nd, 2026. 01:52:21
Initialed by Finance Committee chair. 01:52:25
OK. I have a motion by Supervisor Gutenberger's, second by Supervisor Kraus. 01:52:27
Any questions on? 01:52:32
This. 01:52:34
Any questions? 01:52:37
If you. 01:52:42
Supervisor clock. Oh sorry I just wanted some clarification. What was the 200,000 for? 01:52:43
Of brine maker. 01:52:48
But she said there was no cost. 01:52:50
To the county states going to pay for it. 01:52:52
All OK. Thank you. 01:52:55
OK. And. 01:52:58
Supervisor, Brazil. 01:53:00
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, it's. 01:53:01
$200,000 we're getting from the state it's gonna fully fund. 01:53:03
A new Brian system replacement. 01:53:06
And we, I believe, also are allowed to keep whatever is leftover. 01:53:09
The cost doesn't get up to 200,000 so. 01:53:14
OK. If you agree with the committee's recommendation, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:53:23
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 01:53:34
Resolution 25-69. 01:53:41
A resolution of the Dodge County land. 01:53:47
Resources and Parks Committee. 01:53:50
Recommendation to adopt A 2045 Dodge County Comprehensive Plan update. 01:53:52
All of which is respectfully submitted the 16th day of December, 2025. 01:53:59
Signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks Committee. 01:54:04
Have a motion by Supervisor Burnett, the second by Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:54:08
This this motion is to bring. 01:54:14
It to the board. 01:54:16
And any amendments would be when we do. 01:54:19
The ordinance. 01:54:23
Supervisor Gavis Einstein. 01:54:28
I did have one question and maybe we need to do it when we bring the ordinance on page 22. 01:54:31
Of the document. 01:54:38
Section 1.3 it says that the. 01:54:40
Dodge County, 2045 Comprehensive. 01:54:43
Plan was recommended to the county board. 01:54:46
Via resolution on December 8th, 2025. 01:54:49
Except the right date and then it says it was a. 01:54:54
A public hearing. 01:54:57
On February 17th of 2025. 01:54:59
Are those the correct dates? 01:55:02
The public hearing is not because it got moved up because we changed the county board meeting. I know that well. It says 20252025. 01:55:04
It's 2026 and and. 01:55:10
So and the other one says December 8th I think. 01:55:16
Yeah, so that. 01:55:19
Obviously needs to change. 01:55:20
The question back there native is. 01:55:29
And made I'm sorry I told you. 01:55:32
Page 22. 01:55:34
24 it's page 20. 01:55:35
Two of the document 24 when you look. 01:55:37
Yeah. So the December 8th was committee meeting, I believe. 01:55:41
So that was. 01:55:44
Yeah, that was the resolution. 01:55:48
That they recommended. 01:55:50
Recommended the county board. 01:55:51
So the resolution was recommended to the board. 01:55:56
On that date. 01:56:00
So when they recommended it. 01:56:01
That's when they that's when their meeting was recommended to come here. 01:56:03
That was, that was wrong. 01:56:09
Yes, that was a mistake. So. 01:56:10
One of the things that there are some. 01:56:13
We don't need amendments for. 01:56:16
Clerical. 01:56:18
Errors within when they're pointed out, we'll take care of those. 01:56:20
Supervisor Belk. 01:56:27
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:56:29
So is this comprehensive? 01:56:31
Plan ready for prime time, meaning that. 01:56:33
You know, with those changes that were brought up tonight. 01:56:36
For some cheap. 01:56:39
You know reviews and changes. 01:56:40
I mean, would it be more appropriate that? 01:56:42
Postponed us until next meeting. 01:56:45
The downside would be we'd probably have to have another public hearing. 01:56:48
Post that. 01:56:53
Why would we have another public hearing? Just have 1:00 tonight because it. 01:56:54
6 for any significant changes. 01:56:57
That would be in the original document. At that point we can amend during the year. 01:57:01
Couple times a year if we need to. 01:57:07
If you guys want to follow up on that back there. 01:57:12
Go ahead, Bill. 01:57:16
Yeah, if there's significant change, if if you make an amendment to make significant changes. 01:57:19
You would need to go to another public hearing again. 01:57:25
Because. 01:57:27
We can't just. 01:57:28
The map, The map and document have been out there in the public purview. 01:57:32
They're expecting it to be the way it is. 01:57:36
And so we can't just go ahead and change something at the last minute. 01:57:40
Without going through another public hearing process. 01:57:44
For that. 01:57:48
What was? 01:58:00
Any comment on that or Kim, do you want to weigh in or? 01:58:04
If there is going to be a significant change, that was brought up at the public hearing. 01:58:09
Tonight. 01:58:13
The method to do that would be to refer back to the committee, but it is true that you would need when you bring it back to the 01:58:15
board. 01:58:18
A public hearing on the night of that meeting. 01:58:22
As Bill mentioned or somebody mentioned. 01:58:25
If there are changes. 01:58:29
That are amendments to the plan over the course of the year that can be done and that would. 01:58:31
Reside or. 01:58:37
Be started at the committee level. 01:58:38
So those suggested changes could be done starting at the committee level throughout the year. 01:58:40
So I would also add that. 01:58:48
That there could be tweaks, you could make amendments to this. 01:58:51
As long as they're. 01:58:54
Deemed to be insignificant. 01:58:55
Tonight, uh. 01:58:57
To clarify, I guess, but if you're doing something significant. 01:58:58
Then you'd have to kick it back and potentially another county or another public hearing. 01:59:03
But I I would just. 01:59:08
Add that if there are. 01:59:10
Insignificant changes, if you will. 01:59:13
They should be made when the ordinance comes up. 01:59:16
For consideration. 01:59:19
This resolution is your recommendation. 01:59:20
That you're hearing from the Land, Resources and Parks Committee. 01:59:23
To move the plan forward. So that's the purpose of the resolution when you get to the ordinance then if there are. 01:59:27
Minor changes. 01:59:35
That would be the appropriate time to do that. 01:59:36
And supervisor. 01:59:41
I just want to. 01:59:44
Clarify on the Emmett Watertown. 01:59:45
Map issue. 01:59:49
They're both fully aware, is that correct? They're both fully aware that they need to take action and and meet. 01:59:53
To work this out. 02:00:00
Because I know we saw the e-mail some of us received from Mayor Stocks concerning this. 02:00:02
I I just want to make sure that they actually. 02:00:10
Do their part. 02:00:13
And not put it back onto our shoulders and and. 02:00:14
Make it our problem when it's. 02:00:17
Really issue between. 02:00:19
The town and the city. 02:00:21
Can I speak? 02:00:28
Sure, go ahead. Yes, so actually. 02:00:29
City of Watertown mayor is here. He's in the back. There's been conversations between the city of Watertown and the town of 02:00:33
Emmett. 02:00:36
And they are aware of our recommendation as staff that. 02:00:40
They need to go back to the table and address the future land use area around the city because there's inconsistencies. 02:00:44
With what's been proposed, with what's in their plan and the agreement. 02:00:51
And to be honest with you, it's not something the the county can help the conversation, but it's really something that the town of 02:00:55
Emmett and the city of Watertown need to work together on and come up with a collaborative solution and jointly then. 02:01:01
Propose something to Dodge County. 02:01:07
To be honest with you, it's it's a bigger item down there for them. 02:01:09
And it really deserves its own time, it's its own project, its own merit. 02:01:13
To come up with a solution that works for both which I. 02:01:18
Perfectly think they can. 02:01:21
That I don't think that's going to be issues coming up with a solution. I think they can. They just need to individually look at 02:01:23
some of these parcels that are of concern. 02:01:26
As well as with the land owners. 02:01:30
The land owners need to be consulted on some of this too. 02:01:31
I think they need to get together. 02:01:34
Hash this out. It's going to take some time. It's going to take some months. It's not going to be. 02:01:36
They give something to the LRP committee next, you know, next month and we bring it back. This is going to take a little bit of 02:01:40
time to hash this out, so. 02:01:43
Our recommendation is. 02:01:47
The the plan is good right now how we have it. 02:01:49
This item that came up with Emmett Water Watertown let them hash it out and then jointly propose. 02:01:51
A solution that Dodge County that we can then bring. 02:01:58
Forward as an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan. 02:02:01
Just remember, we do amendments to the comprehensive plan throughout the year. We allow it. 02:02:04
Twice. And it's very routine for this to go through the committee and have amendments to a comp plan, especially with rezoning. 02:02:08
You guys actually see that? 02:02:12
Somewhat often. 02:02:16
Supervisor Houchin. 02:02:19
Thank you. When? 02:02:20
Are we required to have this? 02:02:22
Done for the state. 02:02:24
What is the date that this has to be done by? 02:02:26
Yep. What's that? 02:02:29
Last year. 02:02:32
So, but we're still no Kathy, we're still good. Don't worry. So what? Dodge County has a comprehensive plan. Any community that 02:02:33
has a land division ordinance or zoning ordinance or official mapping is just required to update their plan every 10 years. 02:02:39
So. 02:02:46
We began the process, you know, in advance of that. We're good. It's just you have to amend it every 10 years, give it a good 02:02:47
thorough. 02:02:51
Review uh. 02:02:55
So we're right in there with it. 02:02:55
Anyone else? 02:03:01
OK. The the motion, the resolution is to bring it to the board so we can go forward. 02:03:04
If you agree with that. 02:03:11
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:03:12
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:03:17
Resolution 25. 02:03:24
70. 02:03:28
Rec Amend town zoning ordinance Town of Beaver Dam. 02:03:33
David P Schmidt and Catherine Eastman, Property. 02:03:38
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of August, 2025. 02:03:43
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report favorably on the petition of David D of David Beachman and 02:03:48
Catherine Eastmont. 02:03:53
Signed by. 02:03:59
Five members of the Land resources in Parks City. 02:04:01
And there is no fiscal note. 02:04:06
OK, I have a motion by supervisor Bubbles and second by supervisor Cavazanjan. 02:04:09
Supervisor my now. 02:04:17
Am I correct in assuming that this is of? 02:04:20
Greater weight than these normal rubber stamps. 02:04:24
Are that this is AR-1 residential rezoning where we're normally doing? 02:04:27
A1 to A2. 02:04:32
Bill or. 02:04:37
Oh yeah, attorney. 02:04:40
So. So it's a town rezone. 02:04:48
It's not a county rezone. 02:04:50
So. 02:04:52
You know, that's that's ultimately their decision. All we do is make sure that they're following procedure. 02:04:56
Properly in which they are in this case so. 02:05:01
That would actually have been a question for the town itself. 02:05:05
OK. 02:05:14
Question. OK. 02:05:17
Supervisor Clock Hall. 02:05:19
So if that's a question for the town. 02:05:21
How do we vote on that? 02:05:25
We don't have the answer to that. 02:05:27
May just confuse. I could just be confused too so. 02:05:29
The. 02:05:32
All we all we are doing is saying that the town. 02:05:33
Followed their correct procedures. 02:05:36
That's what we're voting on. 02:05:38
OK. And we know that they did. 02:05:39
Is that correct? 02:05:43
Thank you. 02:05:46
Anything else? 02:05:49
If you agree with the recommendation of the committee, please vote yes. 02:05:51
If you do not, please vote no. 02:05:55
All having voted, it passes 27 to 1. 02:06:05
Ordinance. 02:06:10
Number 1188. 02:06:11
An ordinance to adopt the Dodge County 2045 Comprehensive Plan. 02:06:14
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 02:06:23
Signed by 1 member of the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Committee. 02:06:28
OK, I have a motion by Supervisor Beal, second by Supervisor Burnett. 02:06:36
Supervisor segment. 02:06:42
Thank you. I'd like to make an amendment right now. 02:06:44
On the future land use map, that's map 8 dash. 02:06:47
A change. 02:06:52
The future land use designation for Parcel. 02:06:53
036-0913-1242. 02:06:56
Dash 000 in the town of Portland, from the single family residential designation to the agricultural designation. 02:07:00
It was just discovered this morning I received a call that the landowner noticed it was. 02:07:08
Listed wrong de. 02:07:14
Their parcel was yellow instead of green. 02:07:16
And I spoke with the landowner, obviously, and the town. 02:07:19
Chairman. 02:07:23
And they are all in favor of this change. It was an oversight on their part somewhere along the line. 02:07:24
Any other? 02:07:33
Questions on the amendment. 02:07:35
Are you ready? OK. 02:07:40
But OK. 02:07:43
We are ready to vote on the amendment if there are no other questions. 02:07:45
OK, If you agree with the amendment, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:07:50
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:08:00
And now we're back to the. 02:08:04
Ordinance as amended. 02:08:06
And that ordinance is on the. 02:08:12
In on the floor, is there any other discussion on the ordinance? 02:08:15
Supervisor Belk. All right, thank. 02:08:25
Mr. Chairman. 02:08:28
Hey, just to go back quick on. 02:08:29
City of Watertown and the town. 02:08:31
What what they have to what the city have to amend their comp plan too before it comes back to this body? 02:08:34
Having looked at it, I think so. 02:08:44
I would think. 02:08:46
But that's their. That's their. 02:08:48
Once they have it resolved and they have their they would have to update. 02:08:51
Correct, that's up to them. That's Dodge County has no say in that. That's play up to the city of Watertown. 02:08:54
I would definitely recommend though that they really look at it. 02:08:59
Supervisor. 02:09:04
No. 02:09:08
OK. Any other questions? 02:09:13
If you agree with the ordinance as amended. 02:09:17
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:09:20
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:09:27
Claim one. 02:09:33
Can the recommendation of the Dodge County Corporation Council in consultation with Wisconsin Municipal Mutual Insurance Company? 02:09:35
We, the Dodge County Executive Committee, recommend that the Dodge County Board of Supervisors disallow the claim. 02:09:44
Made by. 02:09:50
Cindy. Cindy. 02:09:51
Liked Fuss dated November 4th 2025 alleging damage to a 2026 black GMC media. 02:09:54
Dated this fifth day of January 2026. Signed by seven members of the Executive Committee. 02:10:03
Have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger and second by Supervisor Beal. 02:10:10
Any questions this is. 02:10:16
A motion to deny the claim based on the. 02:10:18
Insurance companies recommendation. 02:10:21
Any questions? 02:10:24
If you agree with the recommendation to deny, please vote yes if you do not. 02:10:26
Please vote no. 02:10:31
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:10:35
Claim 2. 02:10:41
On the recommendation of Dodge County Corporation Council and consultation with Wisconsin Municipal Mutual Insurance Company. 02:10:44
We, the Dodge County Executive Committee, recommend that the Dodge County Board of Supervisors disallow the claim made by Miles 02:10:51
Hussey. 02:10:55
Dated November 14th, 2025. Alleging damage to a 1994 red Dodge Dakota. 02:10:59
Dated the second day of February 2026. 02:11:05
Signed by six members of the Dodge County Executive Committee. 02:11:09
I have a motion by Supervisor Beal, second by Supervisor Grukenberger. 02:11:13
Any questions on this one? 02:11:18
If you agree with the with the. 02:11:21
Recommendation of the Committee to deny please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:11:24
Supervisor Keel. 02:11:39
I need you to. 02:11:42
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:11:44
What do we have on the desk tonight? 02:11:48
On your desks, you have a flyer or reminder for the Dodge County apparel sale. 02:11:51
Also, and there's a nice QR code on the back. 02:11:59
To easily scan. 02:12:02
And then also. 02:12:04
Umm, a postcard. 02:12:07
About the admin insight. 02:12:11
E-mail that will be coming out. 02:12:15
And also the Dodge County parks. 02:12:18
Newsletter. 02:12:20
Super Razor Johnson. 02:12:25
Make a motion to adjourn to the next meeting on Tuesday, March 17th. 02:12:26
2026 at 6:00 PM. 02:12:30
Have a second by Supervisor Miller. All in favor signify by aye. 02:12:33
Aye, opposed that is carried. 02:12:37
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Event transcript
County website. 00:00:00
Is there anyone that would like to speak at the? 00:00:02
Public hearing. 00:00:04
I had a I have this one. 00:00:07
OK, we do have one. 00:00:09
Correspondence. 00:00:13
My office did receive receive a correspondence correspondence to be read during the public hearing. 00:00:17
It did come in e-mail, so bear with me. 00:00:24
It says good morning regarding your post a comprehensive update draft. I had a couple of concerns as I brought up during our phone 00:00:28
conversation. 00:00:32
That wasn't with me. 00:00:37
That was with. 00:00:40
A member of Land Resources and Parks. 00:00:42
But the concern is map 5.1. 00:00:44
Page 142. 00:00:48
Fire emergency has listed climbing instead of Clr group. 00:00:51
As the provider for the Kleiman, Lowell and Reeseville area. 00:00:55
Map 8-2, page 234. 00:01:00
Future land map shows CCI property near the 1:51. 00:01:03
Slash 73 area as commercial red. 00:01:09
When it is currently zoned industrial purple. 00:01:13
On county zoning indicating more restrictive than current zoning question. 00:01:16
Major minor collector CTHS. 00:01:22
Page 85. 00:01:26
Does not include TT, only mentioning on page 102 under Addressing critical safety projects being considered as letter C. 00:01:28
To potentially remove a segment of TT after bridge placement. 00:01:38
Turning TT into a non. 00:01:43
Through Rd. would no longer serve as a collector. 00:01:45
But in an entrance for Dodge County Park. 00:01:49
Well, I understand the document is for future possibilities. 00:01:52
The wording in both sections appears to support an easy safety fix that creates more public safety. 00:01:56
Off the highway intersection. Thank you for your time. 00:02:03
Submitted by Jane. 00:02:07
Par part. 00:02:10
OK. Anyone else that would like to speak at the public hearing? 00:02:12
On the comp plan. 00:02:18
Anyone else that would like to speak on the public hearing? 00:02:25
At this point, I will close the public hearing on the recommended Dodge County. 00:02:31
Comprehensive plan 2045. 00:02:35
What's your pleasure of the minutes? 00:02:38
From the December 16th County Board meeting. 00:02:41
I have a motion by Supervisor Miller, second by Supervisor Kane. 00:02:50
Any additions or corrections? 00:02:55
Seeing none all in favor signify by aye. 00:03:00
Aye, opposed. 00:03:04
That is carried. Thank you. 00:03:05
Communications on file? Anything else? 00:03:09
I have no other communications on file. 00:03:12
OK, you know we're at the regular public comment. 00:03:16
Did anyone sign up for public comment? 00:03:19
OK. 00:03:21
Anyone here for regular public comment? 00:03:24
Special order of business confirm appointment. 00:03:29
By county Administrator of Melissa Knipple. 00:03:32
County Conservationist. 00:03:36
I do I have a motion. 00:03:39
Motion by Supervisor Miller, second by Supervisor Stager. 00:03:43
And this can be a. 00:03:49
You got to vote this one. 00:03:51
No, OK. 00:03:52
Just. 00:03:54
Yeah, OK. 00:03:55
Supervisor Houchin. 00:03:57
Just a question. 00:04:00
It says there's no date, so is this a permanent? Is this a job as opposed to? 00:04:01
Like the next one says when? 00:04:06
When it'll expire? This is a job and she will start on February 19th. OK, thank you. 00:04:07
OK. 00:04:15
OK. All right. 00:04:20
You ready to vote if you agree with the appointment? 00:04:22
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:04:24
I need to get it up here. 00:04:32
I thought you said you had it in OK. 00:04:33
Just a voice vote. 00:04:36
All in favor signify by. 00:04:37
Opposed. That is carried. 00:04:39
All right, the next one is Cindy Robbie to fill a vacancy on the Nutrition Advisory Council of the term to expire July 1st, 2028. 00:04:42
Have a motion by Supervisor Hedrick, second by Supervisor Miller. 00:04:50
Any questions? 00:04:56
Hearing none, all in favor signify by aye. 00:04:58
Aye, opposed. 00:05:01
That is carried. 00:05:02
At this time, I'd like to introduce Nate Olson and. 00:05:06
From our zoning department and to come up and. 00:05:10
Have Cedar Corp. 00:05:13
Presentation on the comp plan. 00:05:15
That's up. 00:05:27
We up ready roll. 00:05:37
All right, as Dave said, my name is Nate Olson. I'm the Community Development Administrator who are in the Land Resource and Parks 00:05:39
Department. 00:05:42
Thank you for giving us the opportunity tonight to present on the Dodge County's recommended comprehensive plan and to share with 00:05:45
you the process. And you know how we got to it. Up here is Ken Jaworski, who represents Cedar Corp. 00:05:51
Before he jumps in and gives a little more thorough up. 00:05:58
Not only update, but review of the process. 00:06:01
I wanted just to provide a little intro and a little context of how we got to a rat and what really why we're here. 00:06:04
So this project began back in mid to later 2024. 00:06:10
Ever since then, there's been a substantial amount of outreach, public input, a lot of engagement with different communities, 00:06:14
businesses, and so forth. 00:06:18
And we've arrived at this recommended comprehensive plan, which really I think is a good product, OK. I think this is something 00:06:22
that Dodge County can be proud of and should be proud of. 00:06:26
You know, if you historically look at what we've done in planning. 00:06:31
In Dodge County over the years is very significant. 00:06:34
You know, we go all the way back to the 1960s of doing land use planning, comprehensive planning, once a comprehensive planning 00:06:37
law came into effect in 2000. 00:06:41
Matter of fact, this is my third goal around of doing a county comprehensive plan under that law. I've been here 24 years. 00:06:45
This is my third round, might be my last, you never know. We'll see what happens. 00:06:51
But. 00:06:55
You know, comprehensive plans are just that. They're comprehensive, inclusive, OK, You pull it in together 9 elements that are 00:06:56
very wide-ranging and pull in a lot of your demographics, your trends, your opportunities, your issues and bring it all together 00:07:03
in one central location. That's pretty significant. It's very significant, especially when you look at the size of Dodge County. 00:07:10
We are a very large rural county where 43 local units of government spread across 900 square miles. 00:07:17
So as you can imagine, pulling that all together into a central county document is very extensive. But the very cool. 00:07:22
Part about that is you get to really help to understand your county a lot better and if you really look into the county. 00:07:28
Comprehensive plan, you really start to see that you're going to see the issues, but you're going to see the opportunities, and 00:07:34
there's a lot of really good opportunities, a lot of really good things going on here, something that you as a county board should 00:07:38
be really proud of. 00:07:41
There's a lot of good community members out there doing good work. 00:07:45
Programming out there, and it's evident in this plan. 00:07:48
So before I start talking too much and take away Ken's Thunder on the whole project, I'll step aside. But this is Ken Jaworski 00:07:51
with Cedar Corp. He does have extensive history in Dodge County now that the county herself, but a lot of your communities as 00:07:57
well. So he brings good knowledge and a good base to this project. 00:08:02
So they'll turn to Ken. 00:08:08
Thanks, Nate. Yeah, he was. 00:08:12
Right when the smart growth law got got passed. 00:08:15
Back in the. 00:08:19
After year 2000, the first time you did your plan. 00:08:21
I was with that team back then, it was Dave Carpenter and we developed the first smart growth plan. So I've been involved in the 00:08:24
county for for a long time. Just the fact that, you know, Cedar Corporation was a consultant, but we work very closely with the 00:08:29
your planning and. 00:08:34
And, and land resources and parks team, Bill and Nate and and Morgan, we're, we're very key and, and bringing this process 00:08:39
together. We had our own team as part of the process, myself as a project manager and Eric and Krista and Nicole all work very 00:08:44
closely on a lot of the data. 00:08:50
That was. 00:08:56
Part of this effort and as Nate mentioned, there was a lot of that. Basically what I want to go through is a Nate did mention what 00:08:58
a plan is. I'll go in a little bit more detail there. 00:09:03
What our process was. I'll hit some of the highlights. 00:09:08
I'll try to keep it, you know, really high level. 00:09:12
But. 00:09:15
You know, there were a lot of parts in motion here, a lot of new trends and so forth that we had to address and then we'll talk 00:09:17
about the adoption procedures. 00:09:21
Basically why update the plan? As I mentioned the SMART broke law 66 by 1001 is a requirement. You have to need to have a plan if 00:09:26
you have any land use regulations. 00:09:31
You need to update the plan about every 10 years. 00:09:37
OK. When when you do that, you incorporate new demographic information you looked at, you know, some of the past. 00:09:41
Experiences that you had, some good, some bad. 00:09:48
What are the future trends that are out there? 00:09:51
And it also stresses the need for consistency. Like I said, you have zoning, county zoning, you have to base those zoning 00:09:54
decisions on a statutory compliant comprehensive plan. And that is the reason that you do that. That's not the only reason. That's 00:09:59
the law reason, but there's a lot of good. 00:10:05
Benefits locally that come from going through this effort. There are 9 elements. I've got them listed there. So we go on to goals, 00:10:10
objectives of policies. Under each of these are all kind of intertwined. And each of those are a chapter in that report. And as 00:10:16
Nate mentioned, it requires public participation. 00:10:21
And there was a lot of it in this particular process. 00:10:27
The methods we use we had a, a website, a hub site. 00:10:31
I'll talk a little bit more about some of those numbers. The LRPC, we had meetings with them. We created it had ad hoc working 00:10:35
group. I'll go into a little bit more detail there. We had a survey, we coordinated with towns. 00:10:42
On review of materials, we even went to Wisconsin Towns Association county meetings and gave them updates there. We had two public 00:10:48
involvement meetings where the public came out and kind of looked at our maps and gave us some. 00:10:54
Some input there. The future land use map was reviewed by all the towns that sent back to us and of course a public hearing which 00:10:59
is tonight, and that was all captured in a. 00:11:03
Public participation plan that was adopted when we started this particular process. So here's a little bit more detail about this 00:11:08
public outreach. When we had the the ad hoc working group meetings, there were six of them. 00:11:14
The town unit meetings, involvement meetings, the LRPC meetings, tonight's county board meeting, just some other highlights. A 00:11:21
web-based project hub got 9500 views OK, and there were 9 submitted comments throughout the course of the process. 00:11:28
We even did department head interviews. So department heads that are out there, we went and talked to your individual departments 00:11:36
and. 00:11:39
Although some of their services don't directly relate to the plan. 00:11:42
They came up with some pretty good ideas and we wanted to input that. The resident opinion survey, we had 367 responses there. We 00:11:46
sent out surveys to the towns. 00:11:51
About the administration of land use programs between the county and their town and what could improve. And we got 13 responses 00:11:56
out of the out of 18 towns and and then we sent letters to all towns to review that future land use map. So again, this slide 00:12:02
demonstrates the level of public participation that we had. 00:12:08
We did have the ad hoc working group I'm not going to list. 00:12:14
Everyone there, but thank you very much for if anybody's out there that participated in this with a what a vibrant group this was 00:12:18
and and really put the cards on the table in terms of what they saw were the opportunities and some of the issues. So it was a 00:12:23
very good cross section of folks, the two from education, four people from the private sector, business sector, state agency and 00:12:28
non profit. 00:12:34
About 14 hours each review and discussion. About 168 collective hours with this group that they ping pong back and forth with 00:12:39
ideas. 00:12:43
Was nice here was a project hub that we had out there. Was listed on the. 00:13:14
The the website, sometimes people can't sleep at night so they want to kind of see what's going on. That was always available 24/7 00:13:17
and that it was always out there so anybody could get the resources that they need. As I mentioned, you know about 9500 views on 00:13:23
that the resident survey, just some. 00:13:28
A numbers there we had 97.8 of the respondents were residents or land owners. 00:13:35
51% from rural towns, 65% lived in the county for 20 plus years and 23% own a business. So we got a pretty good cross reference of 00:13:42
of input from from that group. So we're pretty happy. 00:13:48
With that. 00:13:55
What are some of the highlights? While not going into the goals and objectives, but that's a very strong element of a 00:13:56
comprehensive plan. 00:13:59
Roles are a little bit broader based. Objectives are a little bit more measurable. You're going to increase something, you're 00:14:02
going to decrease something, going to maintain something. Policy is a little bit more stern. They're the. 00:14:07
The shells and the shoulds and. 00:14:12
And so forth. So we went through all those and reviewed those and and made changes. This also has recommendations. We talked about 00:14:14
some hot topics that came up in our ad hoc committee meeting. Of course, then it all kind of comes together in the. 00:14:20
And the future land use map and that incorporates all the. 00:14:27
The unincorporated areas of the town and we use so approach here actually that kind of evolved from Dodge County's first planning 00:14:30
effort back at. 00:14:34
At the year 2000 called planning from the outside in and I'm going to explain that a little bit of why Dodge County. 00:14:38
Really kind of set the tone about the way you would plan. 00:14:44
Using this approach. 00:14:48
In a minute here. So the goals and objectives, like I said, we modified the statements, we remove statements, we added statements. 00:14:50
We have over 100 recommendations in this plan. Some came from the ad hoc group. 00:14:55
Landed Resource and Parks Committee and. 00:15:00
Some selected department heads had some recommendations as well that made it through all the filters and to the end of the the 00:15:02
plan that got endorsement. We took those recommendations and we've prioritized them. 00:15:07
Either next one to two years, maybe the next three to 10. 00:15:13
And then anything over 11. 00:15:18
A long term. 00:15:20
Long term. 00:15:21
Recommendations. So we wanted to give it a sense of. 00:15:23
A little bit of a barometer in terms of where the energy should be. 00:15:26
Focused on some of these. 00:15:29
Recommendations. 00:15:31
As I mentioned, the plane from the outside and approach is really tailor made. 00:15:33
For the Dodge County environment because. 00:15:36
All my experience here working with the towns and working with the county and seeing all that public input is the fact that. 00:15:39
You love your natural resources. 00:15:45
You love your working lands. 00:15:47
It's the base of your county, and that's something that the public feels very strongly about protecting. 00:15:49
OK. So what we wanted to do in this particular process? 00:15:55
Was look at your valuable natural resources and try to map them and show them graphically as to where. 00:15:59
Development should be steered away from and allow these types of activities to occur so the productive farmland. 00:16:06
Based on your farming economy, you've got the Niagara Escarpment here on the eastern side of the town. We'll show a little bit 00:16:13
about that. You've got some fantastic freshwater. 00:16:17
Resource, of course, a Horicon Marsh being one of the the biggest in the United States, and of course you've got significant state 00:16:22
and federal lands throughout your county as well. So let's just kind of take a look at them here. This is a fantastic map. This is 00:16:28
from the American Farmland Trust. 00:16:33
OK. A study that they did that shows. 00:16:38
And I'm saying this nationally significant agricultural land. So this is land. 00:16:42
That's been documented. 00:16:47
By its characteristics, its ability to go good crops and so forth. And this is the map that's been generated so your county has 00:16:48
some of the best. 00:16:52
Farmland in the entire United States, and this map shows that. And Dodge County takes that seriously because you've been in the 00:16:56
farmland preservation program for a long time. So this is your farmland preservation map. So anything in green you see there? 00:17:02
OK, our areas that we want to continue to see. 00:17:09
In some form of farmland preservation, OK, doesn't mean it couldn't be amended down the road. But as of right now these are 00:17:12
significant areas that we feel contribute to the farming economy. Those areas in Orange then are those areas that are either 00:17:19
currently developed or maybe developed in the next 10 to 15 years. But you can see a pretty, pretty significant. 00:17:26
Impact in terms of your farmland and it's just not. 00:17:34
A pretty map, OK, there's some financial. 00:17:37
Dollars at play here too, because Dodge counties in the farmland preservation program, which allows. 00:17:40
Farmers to claim tax credits at $12.50 per acre. 00:17:45
OK. 00:17:50
Your county. 00:17:52
Last year alone. 00:17:53
In tax credits. 00:17:55
What do we have 900,000? 00:17:57
99 That's money. 00:17:59
That would. 00:18:02
Typically leave the county through taxes. It gets to stay here so. 00:18:02
It's there's a financial. 00:18:06
Gain here to the county as well to be in this program. 00:18:08
And it's as you can see, it's. 00:18:11
Very, very well embraced. 00:18:14
Also, as I mentioned, I showed you your natural resources, your county owned land, federal owned land, state lands. Those are 00:18:17
areas that we want to. 00:18:20
Continue to preserve and add the quality of life here. 00:18:23
We added this to this. 00:18:27
Round of planning, and that's the Niagara Escarpment outcroppings. Trying to give them some some significance and some buffering. 00:18:29
Folks in the town of Leroy, they've, they've, they've taken really embraced that fact. They've got some. 00:18:37
Buffers along those regions that they want to preserve and of course that trickles down through the escarpment. So that was kind 00:18:42
of added. And then it all kind of comes together into the, you know, the future land use map. OK, so basically anything green on 00:18:47
that map is significantly impacted by those maps I just showed you. 00:18:52
OK, these are resources you want to protect. 00:18:57
The light colors that you see here kind of coincide with those. 00:19:00
With those orange areas that we see on this particular map, so. 00:19:04
There's that planning from the outside in as we look at what we want to preserve first. 00:19:08
OK. And we make sure that agriculture just isn't place? 00:19:13
To hold land until development comes, it has an economic impact here county and it needs to be weighed. 00:19:17
At the same level as other uses and protected OK transitions can occur obviously as communities grow, but we wanted to make sure 00:19:23
that the resource. 00:19:27
Got the protection that it needed in the county on that on that map. This one's hard to to read and that's actually kind of a good 00:19:32
thing in a sense because. 00:19:37
This map shows all the changes that occurred on the future land use map for Dodge County. 00:19:42
As we went through this process, so each of these towns. 00:19:47
Got their map. 00:19:50
Back they were able to review it. 00:19:52
So we had about 11174 parcels that were reclassified. 00:19:54
886 of those are due to the. 00:19:59
The village of Kakoski, Williamstown becoming becoming a village so. 00:20:02
There's really that. There was really only 228. 00:20:07
Classification changes that were made to. 00:20:10
Remaining parcels and that's because your department over here. 00:20:13
Entertains amendments to your plan on a continuous basis. 00:20:16
So that's a good thing. Which means there isn't. 00:20:20
This big shock and awe when you update it. 00:20:23
Like we did just now so, but we we did have changes and. 00:20:27
And those are the communities that requested changes. So those have been. 00:20:30
Have been captured and I know there's been a few other. 00:20:35
Comments that have been made. I'll get to here in a second. 00:20:38
What were some of the hot topics that came up in this planning process? 00:20:41
Agriculture preservation, still, I would say #1 in terms of the dedication. 00:20:44
That the county wants to see at this program. 00:20:49
That comes sometimes. 00:20:52
You know, conflicts a little bit with surface water quality. So, you know, the need for nutrient management, responsible farming, 00:20:55
and those types of things kind of go hand in hand because surface water quality was still something that people wanted to see. 00:21:01
Big support for your recreation and tourism, the trail systems that you have and so forth. 00:21:07
Then we start getting down to some of the. 00:21:13
Some of the things that I think are a little bit more far reaching in terms of your economy in this county, OK, and that's 00:21:15
resident attraction. 00:21:19
OK, we need to keep. 00:21:23
Young people in the county, for your workforce we need to attract. 00:21:26
People to your county to be part of the workforce. 00:21:31
So that's what we heard a lot from the business community is that. 00:21:34
You know, somehow, someway. 00:21:38
We need to. 00:21:41
Allow for. 00:21:43
Affordable housing development, trying to keep a diversity of age groups in the county to support the the economy. You've got a 00:21:45
lot of assets here and hopefully. 00:21:50
That'll be useful in attracting that. So that lays right into workforce and economic development you need people to generate. 00:21:55
Economic development and be part of your workforce. Child care provisions a big thing too that was looked at as a little bit of a 00:22:03
barrier. 00:22:07
Fire department EMS coordination. 00:22:11
OK. It's been a hot topic. There been a lot of talk about consolidations and so forth, not necessarily in the county here, but I'm 00:22:14
just saying throughout the state that's a, that's a, that's a big issue in trying to make that process a little bit more cost 00:22:20
effective. And then some of our favorites, right, utility scale solar energy systems and of course. 00:22:26
The big buzz of late, you know, being being the data centers and and their impact. Some of these we didn't. 00:22:32
Like data Centers for example, that information is just coming in daily. In terms of what? 00:22:39
Individual communities can do and so forth. Solar, we've got a little bit more information on and we actually created I think some 00:22:44
real strong policies in your plan. 00:22:48
The deal with solar developers. 00:22:53
Who want to be supposedly good neighbors. OK, So we really straightened this plan to get the county better at the bargaining 00:22:55
table, the negotiating table if any of these systems were ever to show up again to put you, the county in a better position, not 00:23:00
just financially. 00:23:05
But also. 00:23:10
Of some of the. 00:23:11
The other externalities that these systems could. 00:23:12
Can have whether it's visual. 00:23:16
Or loss of farmland or such. 00:23:17
So steps for adoption, we'll have the hearing tonight and we'll take the comments you had some earlier. I'm going to address a 00:23:20
couple of them that kind of filtered in. 00:23:23
While we were putting this together. 00:23:27
And this plan, as you'll see later in your agenda is to be adopted by an ordinance, OK. I think that's like. 00:23:30
#11 or something on here. 00:23:36
On your. 00:23:38
Agenda. So we had the elbow comments. Actually they were, they were read. 00:23:40
Prior at the public hearing. 00:23:44
So I just kind of broke those down quickly. The map 51, the 1:42. 00:23:47
This was. 00:23:52
This was, this was a reference, an improper reference, so. 00:23:53
Staff is going to correct that reference. That's not a. 00:23:57
A huge issue. 00:24:00
The the comments about the commercial versus the industrial parcel. 00:24:03
The CCI property. 00:24:07
Whether it's commercial or industrial, it does meet the. 00:24:10
The consistency requirements of the zoning district. 00:24:14
OK, so. 00:24:17
It's it's it's. 00:24:18
We could have it either way, I guess. Right now it's what? 00:24:20
It's commercial. 00:24:23
Yeah. 00:24:25
OK. OK. Yeah, so. 00:24:26
Yeah. OK. So that's that's consistent with what we have. 00:24:29
There was an oversight on page 85 and that that'll be corrected by. 00:24:33
By staff and then there was a little bit more discussion here about. 00:24:37
The future of TT and whether or not the the road and the bridge and so forth and. 00:24:42
And these were just ideas. 00:24:48
The plan discussion is not a recommendation anything. 00:24:50
That was brought up in this testimony. 00:24:55
Is just discussing potential solutions. They are not recommendations. It's just a list of options at this time, so. 00:24:57
Really nothing there to change that's going to have any significant. 00:25:06
Impact on on the overall plan. 00:25:11
We did the in this. The slide is cloudy for a reason. I'll get to that here in a little bit. But there there were some comments 00:25:15
about. 00:25:18
The City of Watertown and Emmett have an intergovernmental agreement on the Northside of OF. 00:25:22
Of the city and how that was to be addressed. 00:25:28
This is your current map of Emmett that they agreed to. This was the same. 00:25:32
Basically the same arrangement that. 00:25:36
Emmett had adopted back in 2015. 00:25:39
And then the city, you know, showed their future land use map and showed that there was some differences, OK, and that. 00:25:42
These need to be. 00:25:50
Kind of resolve all right, so they provided. 00:25:52
Some comments in terms of what those uses should be. 00:25:55
On the county map. 00:25:59
OK, so and that's fine. We welcome. 00:26:00
All that type of discussion. 00:26:04
But when we were looking at it in terms of OK, whether or not this is. 00:26:06
A reason for a change tonight? 00:26:10
Before you adopt that. 00:26:13
Look back at their map. 00:26:15
To what they submitted. 00:26:17
And that really wasn't consistent with their own map, so. 00:26:19
The the bottom line here is there's some work to be done between the two local units of government within their agreement area in 00:26:23
terms of what uses should be there. 00:26:28
So our position as as staff is to. 00:26:33
Let that. 00:26:36
Play out. 00:26:37
And then when they come forward, address that and. 00:26:38
And I'll talk a little bit more about here at my closing slide, but some things for you to consider tonight. 00:26:41
As you make. 00:26:47
Take action on the ordinance. 00:26:49
Number one, this process. 00:26:52
Casted a real wide net. 00:26:54
To incorporate public comments, OK, this was a very transparent public. 00:26:56
Driven process throughout. 00:27:01
OK, like I said, the website alone out there 24/7. 00:27:03
Anybody could make comments? 00:27:07
The door was always open for comment. 00:27:09
Future land use map for. 00:27:11
This plan. 00:27:13
OK, applies to unincorporated areas. 00:27:14
Only. 00:27:18
All right, so that's the 23 towns and in, in in Dodge County. 00:27:20
Right, it did not. 00:27:24
Take uh. 00:27:26
Your your future land use map does not include lands within villages and cities as they're an exporter. That's their 00:27:27
responsibility. That's that's what they're responsible for. So. 00:27:32
Again, the plan contains over 100 recommendations covered into 9 required elements, and it sets them by priority. 00:27:38
All towns, including Emmett reviewed their individual future land use maps would be part of the county's future land use map 00:27:44
during the update process. So every town, I want to stress that every town had numerous chances to lay in on that map and provide 00:27:50
their input. So relative to this, this agreement between Emmett. 00:27:57
And in Watertown. 00:28:03
SAS recommendation is for both governments to meet, resolve the land use designations and jointly propose a future comprehensive 00:28:05
plan amendment back to Dodge County for inclusion on the future land use map. So basically what Emmett has proposed right now 00:28:10
would be what you would be. 00:28:15
Adopting tonight, but we leave the door open for Emmett and Watertown to review their intergovernmental agreement area and propose 00:28:20
something new down the road which could come back to you to amend that plan. 00:28:25
At at another, at another time and that's and there will be numerous opportunities, right so. 00:28:31
It's a working document. 00:28:37
Yeah, you can be amended periodically and your policy here is about twice a year that you entertain comp plan amendments. So 00:28:38
there's time to to for the two parties to meet and and get that done and that could include some other amendments too If, if, if 00:28:43
things crop up over the next. 00:28:49
Year or so. 00:28:54
So that pretty much concludes it. 00:28:56
That was. 00:28:58
15 minutes that we took 15 months to do so anyway. 00:29:00
If you if you want to take questions now it's, it's, it's, it's totally up to you. Yeah, we'll take questions at this time, so. 00:29:04
Are there questions? 00:29:11
Supervisor cameras on Jen. 00:29:14
Yeah, you, you mentioned that. 00:29:17
I first of all, I think it's a great document. There are a lot of really good recommendations, he said. There are over 100 00:29:19
recommendations. 00:29:22
And I wonder if you have some? 00:29:25
Recommendations for tracking those? 00:29:28
Goals and recommendations that are laid out here, not just saying, hey, we're doing a good job here and there, but. 00:29:31
Can we actually get those recommendations, maybe in a spreadsheet and track them? 00:29:37
Well, we certainly hope. 00:29:42
You know, the, the, the department, the planning department does that. 00:29:43
You know, the first step is obviously to make the recommendations and get them out there. 00:29:48
So you know. 00:29:53
Technically, yeah, you should be reviewing your plan every couple years and doing a little bit of an audit to see if there's been 00:29:55
the needles been moved on any of the recommendations, but. 00:29:59
You know. 00:30:04
It's it's going to be kind of. 00:30:05
The responsibility of the county and your departments to monitor that that's. 00:30:07
I mean. 00:30:11
My job is going to be done after it's passed, but the the carried the torch is hopefully through the through the planning 00:30:13
department. 00:30:16
To measure those metrics. 00:30:20
Supervisor Belk. 00:30:24
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:30:26
And on the basis of? 00:30:28
Farm preservation as it relates to solar. 00:30:31
How do you coordinate them two together? Isn't it a contradiction? I mean, if we're going to have solar, it's gonna take up a lot 00:30:34
of good farmland. At least that's what we've seen over the years in Dodge County. 00:30:39
And how is that? Is that more of a contradiction? And how do we address that Well. 00:30:44
I'm gonna blame Nate because I had some slides in there to talk about that. 00:30:49
There has been progress. I mentioned the data centers and and and solar. 00:30:55
There's been some summits that have been occurring because that comment has been probably the number one comment and how to 00:30:59
accommodate solar and there has been some really nice strides that have been made in the area of dual use. 00:31:05
OK. So it's just not going to be a system strictly to energy development. There's been some great strides in. 00:31:12
The changes in how solar arrays are designed now. 00:31:19
To let farming occur underneath their race. So this whole concept of dual use. 00:31:23
Is is really starting to take traction? 00:31:29
Where designers of the systems, agriculture, the agriculture community, soil scientists and so forth are meeting and trying to 00:31:32
crack that nut. And we're starting to see some pretty innovative. 00:31:38
Dual use systems out there and your plan does include. 00:31:44
A policy that says any proposed system over 50 MW must have a dual use component to it. 00:31:49
So we're going to hold your plan gives you some evidence to hold the developer responsible for just not. 00:31:56
Slamming in the solar. 00:32:02
Throwing grass on the need it and and goodbye. No there your your plan now has a policy that says. 00:32:04
You must. 00:32:09
Are we prefer? 00:32:11
A dual use system. 00:32:13
When you're citing a system of anything 50 megawatts or greater. 00:32:15
Supervisor Houchin. 00:32:21
Thank you. 00:32:23
There were two things that I. 00:32:25
When I look through this at I. 00:32:26
Wondered about. 00:32:28
You said there were nine different categories, but. 00:32:30
You put the Gold Star trail under. 00:32:33
Transportation. 00:32:36
And I would think that was recreation, but I didn't see recreation or the camping. 00:32:38
In any of that. 00:32:42
And then the second thing I wondered about was. 00:32:44
You talk about if we. 00:32:47
Decide to do something with. 00:32:50
Henry dodge and tear it down that we're going to use it for a renewable energy. 00:32:52
Project maybe? 00:32:56
What is that? 00:32:57
Nate, you want to take that one? 00:33:00
The Gold Star trail was listed under transportation just that's typically where you put trails. Non motorized trails do can go 00:33:06
underneath that category. 00:33:10
The second point you made, I believe that came out of conversation with department heads as something to look at with the reuse. 00:33:14
If something happens out there. 00:33:21
Is to consider that on that site. 00:33:23
So. 00:33:25
I believe that's where that came out was with department conversations on that. 00:33:26
So because it was in the pot, it's in the plan. 00:33:30
Yep. So department heads, as Ken mentioned before, our department heads were were interviewed. 00:33:33
They did put some input into the plan and I'm pretty sure that's where one of those came from is. 00:33:38
Is a possibility as. 00:33:43
If that building comes down, could that be looked at? 00:33:44
So, umm. 00:33:47
Supervisor Hedrick. 00:33:50
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:33:52
And thank you so much for this very comprehensive plan and and discussion of the plan. 00:33:54
You're welcome. Thank you. 00:34:00
Also for highlighting the the Emmett Watertown. 00:34:03
Conundrum challenge there and and the process forward with that. 00:34:07
Much appreciated. 00:34:11
And your explanation of the solar fields, you mentioned data centers. 00:34:13
Were they? 00:34:17
Addressed as well. I know that's that's much newer than the solar fields, but it's a topic here in the county. 00:34:18
Addressed in the fact that. 00:34:24
You know there's a concern and need For more information. 00:34:26
And, you know, it's been getting a lot of press and. 00:34:31
Big companies I know like Microsoft and Google who are. 00:34:35
You know this is all being spawned by. 00:34:38
A lot of this by AI, OK, that's, that's creating the demand for for the for these centers. 00:34:41
And, you know, they're trying to be, as you can imagine, better neighbors, so they're trying to. 00:34:47
As part of their projects, you know, take care of all the infrastructure costs if there's. 00:34:52
Wells or towers or anything that needs to be produced but. 00:34:57
What's going on right now, and all we could really say in this plan right now, because we didn't have a lot of answers as we're 00:35:00
developing this, is there's just a hunger For more information about how this works and what the demands are and what role. 00:35:07
That company is going to play. 00:35:13
Versus the local government. 00:35:15
I can tell you this. And when it comes to data centers, it's going to be a little bit different than solar arrays that you can put 00:35:17
on the rural landscape. We're talking data centers. It's got to have water, it's got to have electricity. I mean, that's deep. 00:35:22
We're talking big demand. So if, if, if any of those proposals were to come, the Dodge County is probably going to come to your 00:35:28
incorporated areas because they have the the infrastructure to to handle that. 00:35:33
But so, as I told a lot of the audience, when. 00:35:40
We put this together. 00:35:44
Data centers are tracking like 2 years behind solar in terms of the information. So we've got a lot more information on. 00:35:45
How to manage solar, what the ask for and that sort of thing. 00:35:52
Now, because you know, the big hit was about 3-4 years ago and everybody was, was scurrying to try to find answers for how's it 00:35:55
going to impact the soil and, and what is the impacts on, on rental costs for farming if you're taking it out of production. All 00:36:00
that information starting to trickle in a lot better now. I would expect the same for data centers in the next two years. So you 00:36:05
know, if we want to strengthen that language, that might be an amendment in a couple years if we get some good resources and 00:36:11
information to do that. 00:36:16
Any other questions? 00:36:23
Anyone else? 00:36:26
Thank you, Ken. Yeah, I want to thank the folks in Dodge County. It's always a pleasure working with you folks. I I love the rural 00:36:29
communities. I grew up on a farm and, and trying to help folks out in rural areas is something that's really dear to me. And I 00:36:33
want to thank everybody who was part of this effort at the town level and the county level because it was, I think it's a good 00:36:38
plan. 00:36:42
Thank you. 00:36:49
OK. 00:36:52
Resolutions on file. 00:36:55
Resolution 2561. 00:36:57
Commendation of David Addison. 00:37:01
Whereas. 00:37:04
David Addison has contributed 32 years of dedicated service to Dodge County and the citizens of Dodge County. 00:37:06
And whereas Dodge County and its citizens have benefited from the services he has provided. 00:37:12
And whereas David Addison has chosen to retire from his present position of manager. 00:37:18
Of land information in the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Department. 00:37:23
Now, therefore, be it resolved that we, the Dodge County Board of Supervisors, pause and its deliberations to recognize and 00:37:28
commend David Addison. 00:37:33
For 32 years of meritorious service. 00:37:37
And be it further resolved, that on behalf of the citizens of Dodge County. 00:37:40
This board does year with extend to his appreciation for his many accomplishments and success successes. 00:37:45
Over 32 years of service. 00:37:51
And be it finally resolved that a copy of this resolution be entered into the official records. 00:37:54
Of the Dodge County Board of Supervisors and that a copy of this resolution be forwarded to David Addison is a token. 00:38:00
Of appreciation on the part of this board. 00:38:06
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th. 00:38:09
Day of February 2026. 00:38:13
Signed by four members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:38:16
Please rise for a standing vote of acceptance. 00:38:20
Thank you. 00:38:31
Commendation. 00:38:36
Of Rose Newman. 00:38:37
Whereas Rose Newman has contributed almost. 00:38:41
23 years of dedicated service to Dodge County and the citizens of Dodge County. 00:38:45
And whereas Dodge County and its citizens. 00:38:50
Have benefited from the service she has provided. 00:38:52
And whereas. 00:38:55
Rose Newman has chosen to retire from her present position of dining Site coordinator. 00:38:56
At the Human Services and Health Department. 00:39:02
And now, therefore, be it resolved that we, the Dodge County Board of Supervisors, pause in its deliberations. 00:39:04
To recognize and commend Rose Newman. 00:39:11
For her almost 23 years of meritorious service. 00:39:13
And be it further resolved. 00:39:16
That on behalf of the citizens of Dodge County, this board does herewith extend to her appreciation. 00:39:18
For her many accomplishments and successes over. 00:39:24
The almost 23 years of service. 00:39:28
And be it finally resolved that a copy of this resolution be entered into the official records of the Dodge County Board of 00:39:30
Supervisors. 00:39:34
And then a copy of this resolution be forwarded to Rose Newman as a token. 00:39:38
Of appreciation on the part of this board. 00:39:42
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 00:39:45
Signed by four members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:39:51
Please rise for. 00:39:55
Standing vote of acceptance. 00:39:57
Thank you. 00:40:06
Do you want to ask if there was? 00:40:07
Miss Rose here. 00:40:11
She rose. Is Rose here? No. 00:40:13
Resolution 25. 00:40:28
63. 00:40:30
A resolution recognizing Dodge County Medical Examiner's Office and observing. 00:40:35
Medica Legal death investigation professionals Week. 00:40:40
January 25th, 2026 through January 31st, 2026. 00:40:45
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 00:40:50
Signed by six members of the Dodge County Executive Committee. 00:40:56
I have a motion. 00:41:02
We're doing a rising bullet, OK? We're just doing this one, the rising vote also. 00:41:06
Please please rise for. 00:41:11
To any vote of acceptance. 00:41:13
Resolution 2564. 00:41:27
A resolution to establish salaries for the 2027 to 2030 term for the elected positions of Clerk of Circuit Court and Sheriff. 00:41:32
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 00:41:42
Signed by four members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:41:47
I have a motion by supervisor Beal. 00:41:51
And a second by Supervisor Klobuchar. 00:41:54
Supervisor Belk. 00:41:58
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:42:01
I'd like to divide the question into two separate. 00:42:03
Resolutions. 00:42:09
And I submitted this earlier to the. 00:42:11
Clerk. 00:42:13
Reading. 00:42:14
OK, the motion is to divide the question into suit 2 separate. 00:42:16
Votes. Is there a second? 00:42:20
Is there a second? 00:42:24
So we have a second by Supervisor Breslow. 00:42:28
Yep, we're getting it under. 00:42:31
Can I speak on the? 00:42:45
Is it coming up? 00:42:49
It'll OK. 00:42:51
Well, I see that, you know. 00:42:53
The sheriff's Sheriff's position is going to be a 32% raise over 4 years and the. 00:42:54
Clerk of Courts is 20%. 00:43:00
I think it's just. 00:43:02
Right to separate the. 00:43:04
Or divide the question. I'm not comfortable. 00:43:06
Voting as one group. 00:43:08
OK, the motion to divide is not debatable. 00:43:16
Are we ready to vote? 00:43:20
Yep, and then you can vote. 00:43:21
OK, if you agree with the. 00:43:28
The motion to divide the question please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:43:31
All having voted it. 00:43:43
Passes 22 to 6. 00:43:44
Now we just need a minute to enter the two items. 00:43:47
And then? 00:44:18
OK. And discuss. 00:44:45
We can take up the clerk, of course, So we will take the clerk of courts. 00:44:48
Resolution first. 00:44:53
So so they. 00:44:55
This is divided, so we still have the. 00:44:58
Go ahead, Kim. 00:45:02
I just want to point out. 00:45:03
When you divide the question. 00:45:06
Just consider the resolution. 00:45:08
For each. 00:45:10
Clerk of courts separate from the sheriff. 00:45:12
The only difference in the resolved clause I think you should be aware of. 00:45:14
Is the resolve clause with regard to WRS. 00:45:18
It's different for the clerk of court. 00:45:22
Than the sheriff. 00:45:24
So. 00:45:26
I just wanted to point that out. 00:45:27
WRS is a little different classification in that system. 00:45:29
So. 00:45:32
Just for the records, when you take up the Clerk of court, which you're going to do first, she's classified as an elected official 00:45:34
or that position is classified as an elected official. 00:45:38
Under WRS. 00:45:42
OK. 00:45:45
It's a different rating, so it's a different WRS contribution. 00:45:49
And the reason I just point that out is you know what? While the the. 00:45:52
I understand the reason for dividing the question. 00:45:57
When you ultimately. 00:46:00
What will be different? 00:46:02
Is when you approve for clerk of court, you're approving. 00:46:04
That her classification in WRS is for elected official when you vote. 00:46:07
For sheriff, you're voting. 00:46:11
Whatever the the percentage. 00:46:14
You vote on for either of these. 00:46:16
Is fine. 00:46:19
But the classification for WRS for the sheriff is protected with Social Security. 00:46:20
Just a little nuance, just understand the difference there. 00:46:26
That there's different. That's the only other difference. 00:46:29
Of course the. 00:46:32
The salary is going to be different for each. 00:46:33
All right. Thank you. 00:46:35
OK. 00:46:38
Jim Dewey. 00:46:41
Use the original. 00:46:42
1st and 2nd. 00:46:47
To go ahead. 00:46:48
OK. 00:46:50
OK. So the motion that is on the floor is for the. 00:46:54
Clerk of Courts. 00:46:59
OK. 00:47:06
Rob, do I speak again or sure? 00:47:08
I think you. 00:47:15
That's right there. You should. Hello. All right, Thank you. 00:47:17
I guess I need some clarification from one of the committee members. Is is? 00:47:22
How did you come up with the 20%? 00:47:26
For the clerk. 00:47:29
And also. 00:47:30
To 32%. 00:47:31
You know what? 00:47:33
For. 00:47:34
The sheriff, I mean, wouldn't it be more unified if we all came up with the same percentages rather than ones higher than the 00:47:35
other? And. 00:47:39
And not to mention, how is that to relate to the other? 00:47:42
Elected. 00:47:45
Positions in. 00:47:46
County as well. 00:47:47
Supervisor Beal, do you want to? 00:47:51
Sure, that was done by looking at. 00:47:55
Comparables of other counties. 00:47:58
And also by using the McGrath study. 00:48:01
And also looking at market? 00:48:05
And. 00:48:09
The wages that that were currently set. 00:48:10
Four years ago were much lower because we didn't know. 00:48:14
That, uh. 00:48:17
The increases that occurred the last few years. 00:48:19
With everybody else's wages were. 00:48:22
Going to happen. 00:48:24
You know, and when you start looking at. 00:48:26
The back history when there was 1 1/2 and 2%. 00:48:29
Increases given. 00:48:33
These elected. 00:48:35
Positions. 00:48:37
Fell behind. 00:48:39
And this was meant. 00:48:42
To do a catch up. 00:48:44
Knowing that then in future years. 00:48:46
That you wouldn't have to give that type of an increase. 00:48:50
But to get him closer to market. 00:48:53
That is why these. 00:48:56
Bigger increases were. 00:48:57
Put into place for the. 00:49:00
Upcoming election cycle. 00:49:01
Any other? 00:49:07
Questions. Comments. 00:49:08
Supervisor Hochen. 00:49:13
Thank you when I look at. 00:49:15
The background that you. 00:49:17
You put on this resolution. 00:49:18
It shows that the. 00:49:20
County Clerk. 00:49:22
The county treasurer and the registered deeds. 00:49:24
They did get a big jump in 25, but then it's 33 and 3. 00:49:27
And so. 00:49:31
If we give. 00:49:32
5. 00:49:33
Then that sort of puts that off. 00:49:35
And I, I think we're looking for compression here. 00:49:37
So I. 00:49:40
I just don't understand the five compared to the three and I understand that market argument. 00:49:43
But I think we need to have some consistency. 00:49:50
Thank you. 00:49:53
I'm going to take Supervisor Conway first before we go the second round. 00:49:58
Just thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a question regarding the the. 00:50:05
Current salaries. 00:50:09
Comparable to anyone of the other counties for the clerk. 00:50:11
Or for the sheriff at this point in time, I guess. Well, let's stay on the clerk. What is the? 00:50:14
Are they at the beginning of the top of the scale or are they at the bottom of the scale if we use them against the other 72 00:50:21
counties? 00:50:24
I think at this one where you just take the clerk who wants. 00:50:28
The answer, Cameron, are you? 00:50:32
Or John. 00:50:34
I wanted to give time to. 00:50:37
HR Director. 00:50:39
Yeah. 00:50:42
So comparable information was provided to the HR committee. Of all the counties that we have access to information for, we don't 00:50:51
have all of them. We have identified that there are comparable counties. We use that not only for the employee wages that we have 00:50:58
on the Dodge County compensation structure, we also use that in negotiations with our sworn association. Those comparables are 00:51:05
Green Lake, Columbia, Fond du Lac, Jefferson and. 00:51:12
Washington So those are the comparables that have been used. None of them have. 00:51:20
Rates out yet for. 00:51:26
That they have for the next four years. 00:51:28
So we're basing it on the information that they have as of 2026. And since we're talking about the Clerk of Courts, the Clerk of 00:51:31
Court position, if we look at an average of those counties, that's 88,964 compared to the Clerk of court right now at 87,795. 00:51:42
So it's about a 1.3% difference, but that's not including an increase that they're going to give going into 2027. 00:51:53
And into. 00:52:01
20 to 2030. So those are all the things that we look at. 00:52:02
Am I allowed to address? 00:52:08
The other question So. 00:52:10
I just want to point out that in the packet in the the cover letter, we included a compensation structure and for comparisons 00:52:12
wanted to show the difference between where the county clerk, register of deeds and county treasurer are in comparison of where. 00:52:20
McGrath would place these positions into our component structure. 00:52:29
Comp structure if they were employees. 00:52:33
As managers or department heads here at Dodge County and McGrath has placed those positions in pay grade N like Nancy. 00:52:36
And the clerk of Courts is in P. And I know we're not talking about the sheriff right now, but that's in V. 00:52:44
And in the. 00:52:49
Visual that had been provided. 00:52:52
The county clerk, register of deeds and county treasurer. 00:52:54
Are very close. 00:52:58
To being at what would be considered the equivalent of Step 4. 00:52:59
Which is one step away from market in our current pay structure. 00:53:03
And if you look at the clerk of court and the sheriff, they are both. 00:53:07
Below step one. 00:53:11
That is why there's a bigger difference between like a 3% raise versus a 5% raise because those two positions have some catch up 00:53:12
to do according to our compensation structure. 00:53:18
We don't use just one piece to look at. We're looking at all things we're looking at. 00:53:24
Our comp structure. 00:53:30
We're looking at other counties, so there are multiple things that are being considered. 00:53:31
OK. You want to follow up supervisor? 00:53:43
So that I just want to be clear so that there. 00:53:46
They are currently at. 00:53:48
Step one. 00:53:50
They're below. They're below step one. 00:53:52
They're below the equivalent. 00:53:54
What we have is 1. 00:53:56
So then, this is truly. 00:53:58
Yeah, trying to do a. 00:54:00
So it's not. 00:54:01
Correct. 00:54:13
Supervisor Belk. 00:54:15
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:54:18
One thing about market. 00:54:20
These are elected positions is really not about market. 00:54:23
Market is if you want the job, you're going to run for an election and you're going to win. 00:54:26
That's market. 00:54:30
McGrath Study. 00:54:31
Well, sometimes we use it and sometimes I we don't. 00:54:32
So I think it's kind of funny all of a sudden. Now we're gonna. 00:54:35
Look at some of those McGrath study stuff when we haven't used it in the past for other employees. 00:54:38
That's all I got. 00:54:43
Supervisor Breslow. 00:54:48
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:54:50
So from what I've gathered here from our. 00:54:53
Head of HR that we are currently 1.3%. 00:54:55
Behind. 00:54:59
And we want to. 00:55:00
Add 5%. 00:55:02
For that. 00:55:04
I mean, it seems like. 00:55:05
Little bit more than. 00:55:07
Necessary for a chomp. 00:55:08
I I have a hard time. 00:55:11
Giving these kind of raises that we continually are giving in this county. 00:55:13
That are paid for. 00:55:17
By people. 00:55:19
That are lucky to get 2 and 3% annual increases. 00:55:20
On their jobs. 00:55:23
Thank you. 00:55:26
Supervisor Guber. 00:55:28
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:55:31
I just want to clarify. 00:55:33
That the elected positions. 00:55:34
Are not. 00:55:37
In the wage scale. 00:55:39
And therefore you cannot say they are. 00:55:40
Below step one because they do not exist. 00:55:43
In the wage scale. 00:55:46
Am I correct? 00:55:47
These positions are not in our wage scale. 00:55:49
Yeah. 00:55:52
Correct, these positions are not on our wage scale, but so you can't say they're below step one because they don't even exist. 00:55:55
In the wage scale, right, we use a comparable based on what McGrath would recommend, where they would be if they were, as far as 00:56:03
their level of expertise that's needed to do their position, do their job, it's an equivalent. 00:56:10
So I'm gonna echo. 00:56:17
Supervisor Belks comment that it's interesting that we want to use McGrath at times and then we want to use comparables to other 00:56:20
counties. 00:56:23
And that's where this. 00:56:27
Shift is happening today. 00:56:28
You know, uh. 00:56:30
What we're gonna. 00:56:31
We're going to put them in the wage scale. 00:56:33
And. 00:56:36
I'm not sure what job descriptions were all used for. 00:56:37
The sheriff and the clerk of courts. 00:56:41
In order to create this. 00:56:44
Perceived V and. 00:56:46
And P classifications. 00:56:48
But uh. 00:56:50
I'm deeply. 00:56:51
Troubled by the fact that. 00:56:52
You you can look at a cost of living. 00:56:55
Over the last. 00:56:59
Umpteen years. 00:57:02
Certainly over the last 2-3 years. 00:57:03
And I don't think you'll see anything where it says the cost of living is 8%. 00:57:06
At least 8%. 00:57:10
Over the next four years. 00:57:13
Each and every year. 00:57:15
I I think we would all be crying. 00:57:19
If if everything went up 8%. 00:57:21
For each of the next four years. 00:57:26
I jeez, we, we, we, we kind of exhibited some of that. 00:57:29
Just about 12 months ago. 00:57:33
You know, Provisor Guckenberger, we're on the. 00:57:36
Clerk of Courts, which is. 00:57:40
Not it's whether it's 5 or it's 8%. It it it doesn't match. 00:57:42
Cost of living. 00:57:47
And that's, that's what bothers me about these proposals. I, I. 00:57:49
I don't know where the justification came. 00:57:56
From HR committee to say. 00:57:59
Our crystal ball says we need 5% and our crystal ball says we need 8%. 00:58:02
That I I don't understand that. 00:58:07
Can't support it either. 00:58:12
Thank you. 00:58:13
Anyone else? 00:58:15
Are we ready? OK, so, so just to be clear here. 00:58:21
We looked at the information we had available. 00:58:25
We looked at comparable counties. We looked at. 00:58:28
Comparable with McGrath if they were. 00:58:31
And we're not saying they are, but we're just comparing. We looked at a lot of information. 00:58:34
This is to. 00:58:40
Catch them up. 00:58:41
Because they. 00:58:42
If you look at the past increases, they haven't been. 00:58:44
You know, we want to talk about cost of living. They haven't even been at cost of living at times. 00:58:48
So we don't anticipate. 00:58:53
Having this continue. 00:58:55
Once they're caught up. 00:58:57
And if we? 00:58:59
Compare. 00:59:00
The other elected officials. 00:59:01
They're either. They're either. 00:59:03
At or, they're ahead of. 00:59:05
Where they would be, comparably speaking. 00:59:07
Which is, you know, I'm not complaining about that. 00:59:09
But then we have these two elected officials that are. 00:59:12
Behind. So what we're trying to do is we're trying to fix something. 00:59:14
And if you. 00:59:18
Don't feel comfortable voting for it? Then don't vote for it. 00:59:20
You know, we're just trying to do the best that we can. 00:59:23
As a committee. 00:59:26
Because. 00:59:27
Like we all are here. None of us are here to do a bad job. We're all here to do a good job. 00:59:28
The best job we can. And so we're just trying to do the best that we can so. 00:59:32
You know, vote with your conscience. Do. 00:59:36
You know. 00:59:38
Represent your district the best you can, just like we're all trying to do. 00:59:39
Supervisor Sigmund. 00:59:44
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:59:46
Yeah, it feels good to be a most generous county, most counties. 00:59:48
Gave a 3% cola. 00:59:53
For 2026 and we did a 5.25. 00:59:55
Why do we do that? We have a lot of spending going on. Are we planning on getting? 01:00:00
Going bankrupt in the next 5 years here. 01:00:04
Declining population. 01:00:08
There's different circumstances here that we have to take into consideration. 01:00:10
That other counties don't have to worry about. 01:00:15
And we better start just minding our. 01:00:18
Our money here a little better. 01:00:20
Or we are going to run into trouble. I I just think we should just back it down a little bit too. 01:00:23
Thank you. 01:00:28
Anyone else? 01:00:32
Supervisor Houchin. 01:00:35
Thank you. When budget was made was. 01:00:37
What was put in for these wages? 01:00:41
Were you planning on a bigger like? 01:00:44
And I have a problem. 01:00:48
I do have a problem. There we go. 01:00:50
I have a problem that. 01:00:52
We can't find money for Rose. 01:00:54
And that involves all people, but yet we can find money for these wages. 01:00:57
Thank you. 01:01:02
OK. Thank you. 01:01:04
Mr. Clapper, thank you. 01:01:06
I'm sorry, I was taking a. 01:01:08
Clarification I had asked Tanya for, but to the point about the budget. So this. 01:01:10
Change in wages. 01:01:15
Is effective in. 01:01:16
Next year. 01:01:18
2027. 01:01:19
So this year's budget does not include this. This is something that would be part of future budgets. 01:01:20
But if I may for just a couple. 01:01:28
Things that have been mentioned for clarification. 01:01:31
In the sake for the sake of. 01:01:34
Clarity with McGrath, we've used McGrath. 01:01:37
For any and every market. 01:01:40
Evaluation of a position as long as I've been here. 01:01:43
That is something that is standard for us. 01:01:46
No matter what position we're looking at, if we're evaluating a reclassification of the position. 01:01:50
Part built into that process is. 01:01:56
Utilizing the graph. 01:01:59
For doing their analysis of the market analysis, so they look at the position, the job duties and give us a market analysis, the 01:02:00
reason why we did that this time. 01:02:04
As well. 01:02:09
Beyond any. 01:02:10
Feedback or direction from from committee internally as staff to thinking about. 01:02:11
What does Dodge County? 01:02:17
Want to attract 4 elections and positions and. 01:02:21
What would be the way that? 01:02:24
That, if at all, people would be. 01:02:26
Able to hold accountable the individuals in those positions. 01:02:28
One of the ways to do that is make sure that you're paying a rate of pay. 01:02:31
That is equitable. 01:02:36
To the market rate for. 01:02:37
Similar duties or responsibilities elsewhere? 01:02:39
So that's one of the drivers for us talking about market at all. 01:02:42
From a staff perspective, even though they're not included on the wage. 01:02:46
Schedule. 01:02:50
And appreciate very much the concerns that are being brought up. 01:02:51
But one of the reasons for that is. 01:02:55
We also want to make sure that, you know someday when our sheriff or our clerk of courts move on to other things. 01:02:57
Are we an organization that is providing A sufficient level compensation to attract? 01:03:04
Others. 01:03:10
That are qualified to fill those roles. 01:03:10
Thank you. 01:03:14
Supervisor Gutenberg. 01:03:15
I'm make a motion to amend line 38. 01:03:17
Under. 01:03:23
2028 to three percent, 2029 to 3% in. 01:03:24
20-30 to. 01:03:28
3%. 01:03:29
OK, the the motion is to amend. 01:04:47
Line 38. 01:04:50
Changing the 5% to 3% across the board. 01:04:52
No, only 28. 01:04:57
29 and 30. 01:04:59
OK, 5% the first year? 01:05:01
And it's OK. 01:05:04
5333. 01:05:06
It's because it doesn't leave enough room. 01:05:10
OK, discussion on the amendment. 01:05:13
Yeah, Supervisor Bell expect seconded. 01:05:19
Supervisor band is in. 01:05:24
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:05:27
I was just gonna ask somebody to. 01:05:29
About. 01:05:32
Amending it to the same thing because if this is about catching up. 01:05:33
That's what it does if you put the 5% next year. 01:05:37
Then it catches them up and then everybody's. 01:05:40
Back to the 3%. 01:05:43
Then that's just for the clerk of courts here. 01:05:44
I think a lot of times we. 01:05:47
We get ourselves in a bind because we always talk about compression. 01:05:49
And we do it to ourself. 01:05:53
So, uh. 01:05:55
It's all got. Thank you. 01:05:56
Anyone else? 01:05:58
Anyone else? 01:06:03
OK, Supervisor Hedrick. 01:06:04
Thank you. 01:06:09
Could I ask someone from the committee to? 01:06:10
Speak to this the the catching up factor. Does 5% catch up? 01:06:13
Truly. And then? 01:06:18
3% maintain. 01:06:19
Are we speaking apples to apples? I I appreciate the effort you put into creating these tables. 01:06:22
Supervisor Bill or Supervisor Fray vote. 01:06:30
Well, I mean. 01:06:34
When we looked at this like 20 different ways. 01:06:37
You know. 01:06:40
And. 01:06:41
If we would have thought. 01:06:42
Based on the information we had that. 01:06:44
This. 01:06:46
Amendment was a good idea. 01:06:47
This is what we would have came with. 01:06:48
I mean, we wouldn't have. 01:06:51
Suggested 55 and five if. 01:06:53
Five and three would have done the job. 01:06:56
We're not. 01:06:58
Trying to spend more money than we have to. We're just trying to get things. 01:06:59
Caught up? 01:07:03
And we actually. 01:07:04
Kind of had an inkling this wouldn't be super popular. 01:07:05
You know, with like party streamers when we got here. 01:07:09
But we knew. 01:07:12
Like we we know this isn't. 01:07:14
Like fun. 01:07:16
Like I'm. 01:07:17
Probably the most conservative person on this board. I know some of you would like to argue with that, but. 01:07:18
I'm super conservative. I. 01:07:22
Pinched the Buffalo till it. 01:07:23
Oops. OK, on the on the nickel. 01:07:25
You know so. 01:07:27
We're just trying to get things caught up so they're good. 01:07:30
That's all we're trying to do, so. 01:07:33
Based on the information we had. 01:07:35
If we would have thought this would have been good, it would have already been like this so. 01:07:37
Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:07:45
Yeah, in defense of the motion. 01:07:48
The ketchup would exist. 01:07:52
So the perceived location below step one. 01:07:56
Would be resolved. 01:08:00
And then the raises would be comparable with what we do to the county clerk, the treasurer, and the register of deeds. 01:08:03
I know it's difficult. 01:08:10
To figure this stuff out because you got to lay these. 01:08:13
These salaries out four years in advance. 01:08:16
But by the same token, whoever runs for position like. 01:08:19
Much like all of us run for position. 01:08:22
And we're all elected. 01:08:25
We know what we're in for. 01:08:27
And you have to decide whether you're doing it for the money or you're doing it for the job. 01:08:30
I I I'm not sure. 01:08:34
Where these people decide? 01:08:37
When they put their name on the ballot. 01:08:40
But but certainly I'm not doing it for the money. 01:08:43
But. 01:08:48
I I think it's fair and reasonable. 01:08:50
And it's the same thing we're. 01:08:57
We're doing to our other elected officials. 01:08:59
In the county. 01:09:03
If if you want to take this one individual. 01:09:05
Or, you know, when we get to the second one and take that individual and treat them different than everybody else. 01:09:08
Then that's the policy that we're going to have. Otherwise we just treat everybody the same. 01:09:14
And that's what I think we're trying to do here. 01:09:19
Thank you. 01:09:21
Supervisor Bobbles. 01:09:23
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:09:26
When? 01:09:27
Everybody is thinking that we're going to catch up by doing. 01:09:28
The 533. 01:09:32
What HR. 01:09:35
Gave us was the 2026 comp. 01:09:36
Apprehension structure. 01:09:39
What we saw at our meeting. 01:09:44
Was. 01:09:46
What it should be for? 01:09:48
27. 01:09:50
What the recommendation? What it goes up to for 2829 and 30? 01:09:51
So sure, we're going to catch up. 01:09:56
In 27 for what? 01:09:58
26 is seen. 01:10:00
But if if we could get the information for all those other ones? 01:10:04
They could see that. 01:10:10
We're still not. We're still going to be quite a ways behind. 01:10:12
If we don't do. 01:10:17
By doing. 01:10:19
What we're? 01:10:21
What we were recommending at 55. 01:10:22
55. 01:10:25
It still is going to be. 01:10:27
A small. 01:10:29
Portion. 01:10:31
Short. 01:10:33
Of what the recommendation and to be perfectly honest with you, when I went into this meeting. 01:10:33
I had way lower. 01:10:40
Where we still would never have made it. 01:10:42
Close to market. 01:10:46
So if we could. 01:10:49
Maybe somehow give? 01:10:52
Those numbers? 01:10:54
I'm going to go ahead with. 01:11:00
With Supervisor Conway and then we'll come back. 01:11:02
Supervisor Connery, Thank you, Mr. Chair, I just. 01:11:05
You know the Clerk of Courts will be retiring shortly, so. 01:11:09
I understand that people when they decide to. 01:11:13
Run for a position, they they know what that's going to be and they make their decisions. 01:11:16
However, I also know that when I ran for this position, it wasn't. 01:11:22
I didn't consider the money because it wasn't putting bread on the table. I don't make a living off this position. 01:11:26
And these folks do. 01:11:33
So, umm. 01:11:34
To me it was just something to consider. Thank you. 01:11:36
Supervisor Frivol. 01:11:40
Yeah, I just wanted to address we were talking about wanting. 01:11:42
Treat all the elected officials the same. And that's exactly. 01:11:45
Why we came with the recommendations we came with because the other elected officials, when we run this same comparisons on them. 01:11:49
Are in much. 01:11:56
Much more favorable positions on the comparisons and that's why we're trying to do what we're trying to do is to treat everybody 01:11:57
equally. 01:12:01
Period. 01:12:06
Supervisor Belk. 01:12:07
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:12:10
I'm just wondering if anybody on the committee actually went out and called any other counties or they just slowly relied on the 01:12:12
HR provide them with the five counties that. 01:12:16
They had. 01:12:20
Supervisor Beal. 01:12:26
To answer that question, no, I did not call other counties. If I can trust the people that we employ here, there's a big issue. 01:12:28
But. 01:12:37
As far as comparables from. 01:12:37
Other counties I have Columbia County who is a comparable to Dodge. 01:12:40
And. 01:12:45
They're recommending. 01:12:46
An increase in their Their. 01:12:50
Clerk of Courts for the First year 95. 01:12:52
645189851454. 01:12:56
10146997 and then the final year 10454. 01:13:00
Teen, 07. 01:13:06
When you look at what we're. 01:13:08
Recommending what? The 5%? 01:13:12
We're still. 01:13:15
Below umm. 01:13:16
It's up for in the final year, then we finally catch up. 01:13:18
And it's seated by $2000. 01:13:24
Here anyone else? 01:13:31
Cameron. 01:13:36
If I may, Mr. Chair, just one more point to add to what Supervisor Bill had shared. So in the. 01:13:38
In the material for the packet. 01:13:43
And now that I want to share that I'm. 01:13:47
Not not finding my e-mail with it. 01:13:50
With that information. 01:13:53
And in any case, the one of the illustrations it's the color table. 01:13:54
Of information regarding where. 01:13:58
It shows 5 different steps. 01:14:01
And then it shows. 01:14:03
In blue with a circle it shows. 01:14:05
The. 01:14:08
The rate for. 01:14:09
The where our current. 01:14:10
Standing for registered of deeds. 01:14:13
Treasurer. 01:14:16
County Clerk. 01:14:17
Sit with the wage schedule and you'll note that they are at Step 4. 01:14:18
So Step 4 is still one step below what the actual market rate is for a position, which is what we were mentioning before. 01:14:23
So keeping someone in the pay schedule in the pay scale. 01:14:30
By moving as has been proposed as. 01:14:34
Great. 01:14:37
The the difference that was aimed for when we started. 01:14:38
At least from staff providing information to the HR committee was. 01:14:43
What do we do to make sure that? 01:14:47
And of course, now thinking of the clerk of Courts. 01:14:50
Bring that position also in line with the registered deeds, the county clerk and the. 01:14:53
Treasure. That's kind of what we were thinking so. 01:14:58
If that's the case, that's I think. 01:15:01
Part of the. 01:15:03
The issue to help with what? 01:15:04
Supervisor Bubbles was saying. 01:15:07
It's over the course of the entire span of years to arrive at a. 01:15:10
At a spot that is above step one. 01:15:13
And. 01:15:16
Is moving those positions. 01:15:18
Kind of the same direction as the. 01:15:20
The other three I mentioned. 01:15:21
Supervisor Clarkov. 01:15:24
My understanding is that the sheriff makes. 01:15:27
Just to put this in perspective, but he's making captain's wages and I think his chief deputy is actually making more than the 01:15:31
sheriff. We're we're only on the. 01:15:34
On the clerk of court right now, my point is those. 01:15:38
If we're trying to. 01:15:41
Do a catch up. 01:15:43
Don't we also want to make it? 01:15:44
Fair, you can't. 01:15:46
There would be no department head that. 01:15:48
In our county, that would make. 01:15:50
Less than a subordinate. 01:15:52
OK. Anyone else? 01:16:00
If you agree. 01:16:03
With the amendment. 01:16:05
To go 5333. 01:16:06
You vote yes. 01:16:08
If you do not agree with the amendment, you vote no. 01:16:09
Thank you. 01:16:13
All having voted. 01:16:24
It fails 10 yes, 18 no. 01:16:26
We are back to the original. 01:16:31
Resolution. 01:16:34
As presented. 01:16:38
Brittany, come here. 01:16:47
OK, I think we're back. 01:16:59
Supervisor Clarker, do you want to speak on? 01:17:01
The original. 01:17:04
OK, super stagger. 01:17:07
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:17:11
I just wanted to say that these these raises are substantial. 01:17:13
And non elected officials were not giving raises like that to them. So I. 01:17:17
Can't go along with this. Thank you. 01:17:21
OK. 01:17:29
OK. Anyone else? 01:17:33
Supervisor Beal. 01:17:37
I just want to point out that when you talk about. 01:17:39
The other elected officials in in Dodge County here. 01:17:42
Their wages are not being considered at this time because it's not their election cycle. 01:17:46
The only reason that that. 01:17:52
The clerk of courts and the sheriff is being considered as their next election cycle is coming up. 01:17:55
For 2027. 01:18:02
The other. 01:18:05
Four positions. 01:18:06
Are due to be reviewed. 01:18:08
So that's that's why the other. 01:18:12
Officials aren't being looked at at this time. 01:18:14
OK. 01:18:20
The resolution on the floor is it as it was originally with the 5555. 01:18:21
If you agree, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:18:28
All having voted, it passes 16 to 12. 01:18:42
Now we will be taking up the. 01:18:57
Divided question. 01:18:59
And the sheriff's salary. 01:19:03
The motion that's on the floor. 01:19:06
Is as it is printed. 01:19:08
With the 8%? 01:19:10
Any comments or questions? 01:19:24
On this resolution. 01:19:26
Supervisor Belk. 01:19:30
All right. Thank you. 01:19:32
I did some research today actually. 01:19:34
Pretty extensive research. 01:19:36
On to share a salary. 01:19:38
And the average in the state for sheriff's. 01:19:40
According to zip, required was $112,000 and that's more or that's a little bit. 01:19:43
Less than what our sheriff currently makes. 01:19:48
The national average is. 01:19:50
100 and. 01:19:52
13,000. 01:19:55
And then I actually called the city of Madison today and asked what their police chief makes and. 01:19:57
The He's right around 114,000 when our. 01:20:02
Makes and. 01:20:05
That's a population of 250,000. 01:20:06
Milwaukee's even less than what our current sheriff's position is right now. 01:20:09
I mean. 01:20:14
We got some problems here at the colony. 01:20:15
Obviously we're broke if we're using sales tax money to. 01:20:19
To the fund operational costs for certain departments. 01:20:22
You know, for our sheriff, I mean, by statute, he's only in charge of the jail. 01:20:27
We've given Max your powers that. 01:20:31
To be in charge of other things. 01:20:33
But if something happened, if he was indicted or or or left. 01:20:36
And we had to get a position. 01:20:40
Filled from a From a sheriff's perspective, as a. 01:20:42
Appointment or another special election? 01:20:45
I think they would. Anybody would want to take this job for the amount of money they're making. Compared to what? 01:20:48
The average residence in Dodge County make. 01:20:52
Other staff. 01:20:55
I just don't understand. 01:20:56
A 32% raise. 01:20:59
Over 4 years. 01:21:00
It just, it just blows my mind. 01:21:02
Supervisor Gukinberger. 01:21:07
I have an amendment moved to amend line 38. 01:21:10
2829 and 30 to 3%. 01:21:15
The motion is by Supervisor Gurkenberger. We have a second by Supervisor Breslow. 01:21:24
OK. Thank you. 01:21:30
They don't have it in yet. 01:21:56
OK. Any comments, questions, comments on the amendment? 01:22:18
Supervisor Houchin. 01:22:25
Thank you. I I. 01:22:26
Do you like the amendment? 01:22:28
I did some research too and. 01:22:30
Found out that. 01:22:33
The governor only makes 160. 01:22:34
In four years, our sheriff. 01:22:37
But because that. 01:22:39
A DA averages anywhere from. 01:22:41
90 something to 119. 01:22:45
And I just think that. 01:22:48
This 3% is more in line. 01:22:51
I think. 01:22:54
One thing we need to remember an elected official. 01:22:55
Does not have to come to work anytime they don't want to come to work. 01:22:58
They don't have a signed. 01:23:02
Days they have to be. If they want to take a vacation, they can take a vacation. 01:23:05
They can do. 01:23:08
That whenever. So that's something else when we look at some of these others. 01:23:10
And one of my problems is there's going to be compression. 01:23:14
So I think we need to stick with the 3%. 01:23:18
Because everybody else is going to want 80% if we don't. 01:23:21
Thank you. 01:23:24
Supervisor Hedrick. 01:23:27
Thank you. 01:23:29
I have a question of clarification. Corp council mentioned earlier about WRS contributions and for the Sheriff it's different. 01:23:30
Just out of curiosity, what are the? 01:23:39
For the elected position. 01:23:43
I. 01:23:53
So WRS has various. 01:23:56
Percentages. 01:23:59
And so they vary by elected official, they vary by general employee. 01:24:00
And I can look up WRS. 01:24:05
The state sets these every year. 01:24:07
The range between like 6 and 8%. 01:24:11
But I can look it up if you give me one minute please. 01:24:14
All of that sort of thing, all of the other. 01:24:20
Associated. 01:24:22
Yeah, so for elected officials? 01:24:24
Supervisor Houchin mentioned it. There's no vacation. 01:24:26
There's not like a vacation bank, There's no PTO, there's no sick time. Umm. 01:24:30
But what what you would see would be regular payroll expenses like WRS. It would be. 01:24:35
Like FICA? 01:24:41
Federal and state withholding. 01:24:42
Your standard withholdings and payroll, but there's no like fringe benefits if you will. 01:24:44
Other than the WRS. 01:24:49
Yes, and the the electives are eligible for. 01:24:52
The county health insurance. 01:24:55
If they wish to. 01:24:57
Participate in that. 01:24:58
So. 01:25:00
Employer costs so for the general employees. 01:25:09
And elected. 01:25:13
The employer cost would be 7.2%. 01:25:14
And for the protective, which would be Sheriff? 01:25:18
Protective with Social Security it's 14.7. 01:25:20
Percent. 01:25:24
With the duty disability, which is another. 01:25:26
.1%. 01:25:29
So I misspoke. 01:25:30
Because I thought it was between 6 and 8%. 01:25:32
But the protective for sheriff is is higher. 01:25:35
And So what I meant to say before and I probably wasn't really clear. 01:25:38
When when you divided the question. 01:25:41
You could consider. 01:25:44
The resolution as written. 01:25:45
But when you vote on clerk of court, for instance, you would omit that section. 01:25:47
Regarding the sheriff. 01:25:52
In protective status and then when you vote on sheriff, you're going to omit the clerk of court section on page 2 resolved clause 01:25:53
for WRS. Just so you know all those WRS rates are set by the state and. 01:25:59
It's actually set by statute as well. 01:26:05
Employers are going to pay that no matter what. You you can't opt out, which is not an option to say oh I I want to pay the 01:26:08
sheriff the general employee WRS rate. 01:26:13
It is what it is and that's what you're going to pay. 01:26:17
Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:26:24
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:26:26
You know, I, I have to go back to this McGrath comparison because I, I find it absolutely ludicrous. 01:26:29
Because the requirements for a sheriff. 01:26:37
In the state of Wisconsin is. 01:26:40
A high school degree. 01:26:42
18 years of age. 01:26:44
And not have committed a felony. 01:26:46
Pretty much. 01:26:51
You don't have to have a. 01:26:52
A masters degree or a. 01:26:54
A PhD. 01:27:00
OK, so to say. 01:27:01
Hey, this guy's way down here on the scale of like the V. 01:27:04
Almost like he's a doctor or something. 01:27:07
I don't get it. 01:27:10
OK, it doesn't make sense to me. 01:27:12
So to try to put him in the skill there. 01:27:14
Or her. 01:27:17
Her in this scale there or that title in the skill it just. 01:27:17
Doesn't make sense. 01:27:20
So. 01:27:23
All I'm saying is. 01:27:25
You, you know we're going to. 01:27:26
Give this guy. 01:27:28
This position an 8%. 01:27:31
Bump and then. 01:27:34
3% per year after that. 01:27:36
And much like any other position, if. 01:27:39
If, if if I go to. 01:27:42
Apply for a job and I don't like the terms and conditions of the employment. 01:27:45
Don't apply. 01:27:51
It's very simple. 01:27:53
OK. 01:27:55
And and that's what we're here to do. We're we're here to lay out the the salary. 01:27:57
And the benefits? 01:28:02
For the next 4 years for this position. 01:28:03
And we do that well enough in advance so that. 01:28:06
Anybody can decide whether or not they want that position. 01:28:09
It's not a matter of comparing this position to everybody else. 01:28:13
It's it's merely the sheriff. 01:28:17
That's the position. 01:28:20
It's not the sheriff against the deputy, it's not the sheriff against the captains, it's just that position which has very 01:28:21
specific responsibilities. 01:28:26
Remember, he keeps telling us he's a constitutional officer. He knows. 01:28:31
What jobs and duties he's got to perform. 01:28:35
But much like what said earlier, he doesn't have to show up for work any day. 01:28:38
He's got unlimited PTO. 01:28:42
Right. 01:28:45
We provide him. 01:28:45
A personal vehicle to use however he wants. 01:28:47
So. 01:28:51
I think. 01:28:54
Supervisor Breslow. 01:28:56
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I. 01:28:58
I feel that the amendments. 01:29:00
More than reasonable. 01:29:02
It's, you know, we can talk about vacation PTO. 01:29:04
PTO and all that business well. 01:29:08
The annual salary is divided by the number of pay periods. 01:29:10
And that. 01:29:14
Pay is the same for every pay period. 01:29:15
Whether the? 01:29:18
Sheriff is in the office. 01:29:20
Out of the office. 01:29:21
Or wherever they are. 01:29:22
That paycheck is the same. 01:29:24
Every time it comes. 01:29:26
So. 01:29:28
I don't. 01:29:30
Think we should be looking and saying well geez, he doesn't get vacation, he does get vacation. 01:29:31
That that position gets vacation based on. 01:29:36
Getting the same pay every pay period. 01:29:39
If we're going to compare. 01:29:41
To deputies and things of that nature, while we also have to consider those positions probably or. 01:29:43
Getting a fair amount of overtime. 01:29:48
So I agree that. 01:29:51
If a person doesn't feel that the income is going to be enough for the position, don't run. 01:29:54
And I can tell you what I've been around here for a couple election cycles and I don't think the wages. 01:29:58
Are what's going to hold candidates back. 01:30:04
Thank you. 01:30:06
Supervisor Frivol. 01:30:09
Hey, I just again, I just want to say the same criteria that we used. 01:30:11
To for this recommendation is the exact same criteria we used. 01:30:15
For the clerk of court. 01:30:20
The only difference? 01:30:23
Why this is was recommended at 8 instead of 5 was because it's further behind. 01:30:24
Just to be clear. 01:30:30
OK, it's the exact same criteria. 01:30:31
So if you thought the clerk of courts. 01:30:34
Was fair. 01:30:36
Just know that this is this was done the exact. 01:30:38
Same way. 01:30:41
Supervisor Belk. 01:30:45
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:30:47
I don't think that he's behind at all. 01:30:50
I think that he's right where he should be. 01:30:52
I mean. 01:30:54
Madison, you're gonna be me. He's gonna be making more than. 01:30:55
The City of Madison police chief with 250,000 people. 01:30:59
Milwaukee. 01:31:02
County Sheriff. He's gonna make more in him. 01:31:03
What are we doing? 01:31:06
Come on. 01:31:07
Wake up, we're broke. 01:31:08
We got no money. 01:31:09
This is why we have operational costs and we're using sales tax funds. This is ridiculous. 01:31:11
Supervisor Bill. 01:31:17
Just want to point out. 01:31:18
For comparables, Columbia County. 01:31:20
For their sheriff for the upcoming. 01:31:23
Term. 01:31:25
They're going to start out at one 39649. 01:31:26
And $0.37. 01:31:31
Move up to 14687. 01:31:33
Eight in 36 sons. 01:31:36
3rd year $155,656.29 and on the. 01:31:40
4th Year 164,350. 01:31:46
43. 01:31:50
When you look at our comparable that we put. 01:31:51
Out there at 8%. 01:31:55
We're still not coming close to other counties, and that wasn't in 10. 01:31:57
The intent was to to at least bring them somewhat. 01:32:02
Close. 01:32:06
Without. 01:32:08
Even. 01:32:11
We're not. 01:32:12
Do the comparables, we're not going to do the market. 01:32:13
We're not there. 01:32:18
And this was only meant to. 01:32:20
Get the wages brought up. 01:32:22
So that when people do run for that office. 01:32:24
You attract qualified people. 01:32:29
You gotta remember that. 01:32:32
We gotta remove them. 01:32:34
Kern Person. 01:32:35
That holds this office out of. 01:32:37
He may not win reelection. 01:32:39
For all you know, I could win that election next time. 01:32:42
And and. 01:32:45
So we got to just. 01:32:46
Make sure that we. 01:32:47
Look at this. 01:32:50
For the position. 01:32:52
And not for the person that. 01:32:54
Currently holds that office. 01:32:55
Supervisor. 01:32:59
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I. 01:33:01
I know there's a lot of numbers being tossed around here, but. 01:33:03
I'm somewhat familiar with the city of Milwaukee, and I know that the police chief there makes 243. 01:33:06
So if we're looking at comparables, Madison police chief is 151, the 204. 01:33:11
And I think I I have to kind of agree with. 01:33:18
Chairman Guggener, it's really about what our sheriff is. 01:33:21
And where? 01:33:25
We expect them. 01:33:27
This pay scale to be in the county. 01:33:28
I also agree with. 01:33:31
Supervisor. 01:33:34
Trivolt. 01:33:35
If it was. 01:33:38
The same. 01:33:39
Thought process went into both positions. 01:33:42
And we just approved the one. 01:33:44
Because we felt it was correct. 01:33:47
Just seems. 01:33:50
Realistic to. 01:33:52
Think of this one the same. 01:33:54
Thank you. 01:33:55
Supervisor Sigmund. 01:33:57
Alright, thank you very much. 01:33:59
I'm just amazed how we're letting other counties spend our money. For us, that just is. 01:34:01
Just it boggles my mind because. 01:34:06
We're here to do our accounting business. We're not here to just try to keep up with everybody. We're here to do what's best for 01:34:08
this county and what's best for our. 01:34:12
The people that voted us in here and we sort of forget about that. 01:34:15
We're afraid that if somebody leaves, we're not going to find anybody qualified. 01:34:20
As we heard, qualified to do what? 01:34:24
Run a jail. 01:34:27
That's qualifications, that's what he has to do. 01:34:28
How many lawsuits has our jail been in the last year? 01:34:32
Two years? Three years. Anybody ever checked that out? 01:34:35
You should sometime. 01:34:37
Why did we have to raise our Emergency Management fund by $200,000 this year for legal fees? Nobody said why, but we were supposed 01:34:40
to just do it. 01:34:44
Mr. Mr. Sigmund, I wouldn't go there if I was you. 01:34:48
OK, I won't then. 01:34:51
#3. 01:34:54
Dodge County is very rural. 01:34:57
So we are a really nice place. 01:35:00
To be a sheriff. 01:35:03
We aren't like Milwaukee like we've heard there. 01:35:05
We'll leave it at that. 01:35:13
Thank you. 01:35:14
OK. 01:35:18
Supervisor Klobuchar. 01:35:20
I'm one of the newest members to the HR committee, so sometimes I don't feel like. 01:35:22
I'm caught up on everything that they've known for, all the terms they have been on here. 01:35:27
But when we heard in our last meeting. 01:35:32
That the sheriff. 01:35:35
Position was like 32% lower than surrounding counties, never mind Milwaukee, Rhinelander, you know throughout the whole state. But 01:35:36
around here that if you want to find somebody, they can easily look around here to get what they want if it's not Dodge County. 01:35:45
And I think by giving the sheriff's position 8%, we work in the next 4 years to bringing it up to the 32%. 01:35:53
That that position is behind it doesn't catch that position up. 01:36:02
To give a token 8% the first year and then drop it down to 3, three and three, which is only a total percentage of 17%. 01:36:07
So I think it's. 01:36:17
I would be voting. 01:36:19
For the 8% for four years. 01:36:20
Supervisor Brezza. 01:36:25
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:36:27
8% is a far cry. 01:36:28
From a token. 01:36:31
Thank you. 01:36:32
One last time, Supervisor Guckenburg. 01:36:37
This is the only second time on my motion but. 01:36:40
Thank you. 01:36:43
Just because I had requested and received. 01:36:45
Some of the documents that the HR committee had received. 01:36:49
Comparables. 01:36:52
Strictly for the sheriff position. 01:36:55
The the sheriff's wages for 2026. 01:36:59
At present. 01:37:02
Would rank him 31 out of. 01:37:04
Of 1449. 01:37:06
That would be. 01:37:09
Actually in the wrong direction. I would say there's there's 30. 01:37:15
Sheriffs that make less. 01:37:20
Than our current sheriff in 18 that make more than him. 01:37:22
For the chart that I had received. 01:37:27
I think. 01:37:30
Somebody had mentioned that it's. 01:37:32
The average salary for sheriff's in the state. 01:37:34
I I, I think we pay. 01:37:38
Of Fair wage to the to the. 01:37:40
Current position. 01:37:43
And. 01:37:45
Targeting an 8%. 01:37:46
Raise would create a lot of ketchup. 01:37:48
And. 01:37:53
Providing a 3% for each of the next three years is very comparable. 01:37:54
To what everybody else has. 01:37:59
In the state. 01:38:01
And it matches the cost of living. 01:38:02
That has been exhibited over the last 2-3 years. 01:38:05
Thank you. 01:38:08
OK, if you agree with the amendment. 01:38:14
5333. 01:38:18
Please vote yes. 01:38:21
8333. 01:38:24
8333. 01:38:26
Please vote yes if you do not. 01:38:29
Please vote no. 01:38:31
All having voted, that passes 15 to 13. 01:38:41
So we are now back to the original. 01:38:48
As amended. 01:38:51
So will we be voting? 01:38:53
On the resolution as. 01:38:55
8333. 01:38:57
Can you explain that one more time? What are we voting on right now? We now are voting on the. 01:39:06
Resolution as amended. 01:39:11
So that the amendment. 01:39:15
Made the resolution 8333. 01:39:17
We voted on the amendment when you have to vote on the. 01:39:21
Resolution as amended. 01:39:24
Are you ready? 01:39:35
OK. Any questions? 01:39:37
OK. And as you if you understand it, we're voting on the resolution as amended. 01:39:40
The salary would be 8333. 01:39:46
If you agree. 01:39:49
Vote yes if you do not vote no. 01:39:50
All having voted, it passes 21 to 7. 01:40:02
Resolution 2565. 01:40:10
Resolution authorizing the engagement of enterprise fleet management for fleet management and maintenance services. 01:40:18
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February 2026. Signed by. 01:40:28
Five members of the executive committee. 01:40:37
Finance Committee review. 01:40:41
February 2nd, 2026. Initialed by Finance Committee Chair. 01:40:43
Fiscal Note This item will have no fiscal impact, enterprise management fees and auxiliary costs. 01:40:48
Will be processed within the 2026 budget of. 01:40:55
700. 01:40:58
$700,168 for new vehicles. 01:40:59
Including approximately 8250 for management fees and proceeds from the auctioning of old and replace county vehicles. 01:41:04
Have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger and a second by Supervisor Miller. 01:41:13
Questions or comments to praise the Gruenberger you want to speak on your? 01:41:20
Motion. 01:41:25
This is coming as if it came from me. 01:41:29
Is that what you're saying? 01:41:31
Because it was signed by the entire executive committee. 01:41:33
OK. 01:41:36
This this came several times to exec. 01:41:38
First it it appeared to be that we were going to lease our vehicles, but ultimately it's just merely. 01:41:44
A fleet management program that would be. 01:41:49
Put through by Enterprise. 01:41:53
Enter. 01:41:56
A high end company. 01:41:58
Has a lot of experience I I truly believe this is a good. 01:42:00
A move for Dodge County. 01:42:04
In as much as the number of vehicles that we. 01:42:09
Buy and sell. 01:42:12
Every year. 01:42:14
There's a a cost associated. 01:42:17
With each. 01:42:20
Vehicle. 01:42:21
And it is our intent to. 01:42:23
Engage Enterprise for one year. 01:42:26
With roughly, I believe it's 15 to 20 vehicles. 01:42:30
Total cost would be around $8000. 01:42:35
And then after one year, we would evaluate. 01:42:39
How this program is working for Dodge County and we would either expand it or get rid of it. 01:42:43
Personally, I believe it's it's a good thing we we have. 01:42:51
Employees that spend a fair amount of time dealing with old vehicles. 01:42:55
And all they need to do once we get the. 01:42:59
Of fleet management once we get enterprise engages just make one phone call and the vehicle be picked up and. 01:43:02
Taken care of. 01:43:08
So. 01:43:11
Thank you. 01:43:13
Anyone else? 01:43:14
Supervisor Johnson. 01:43:15
Yeah, to add a little bit to supervisor Guckenberger, it's the the main thing and we debated this quite a bit at executive as he 01:43:17
had mentioned, this is a professionally managed fleet right now we. 01:43:22
We have different department heads that buy the car. They're not professional people. Yes, they get government pricing, but for 01:43:28
example, this year on the sheriff's cars, I think. 01:43:32
I think the number is about 5200 right off the top savings, so. 01:43:36
Our $8700 cost is already down to just a few $1000. It'll some years I think this will be just for one year. But I think as we 01:43:40
studied this some years it's possible it could cost us a little and other years we could come out on the head. But what the big 01:43:45
benefit of this is. 01:43:49
Is a professionally managed. 01:43:54
Fleet that we are getting the optimum purchasing price, the optimum selling price, the optimum timing of both. 01:43:56
And the optimum of detailed maintenance and follow up right now the way we do it, we just. 01:44:04
I mean, I suppose there are some counties that have a system, but this is very efficient the way the quality of our fleet would be 01:44:10
managed. 01:44:13
So I am very much for this and we have a chance to reevaluate it in a year and see how the numbers come out. 01:44:17
And. 01:44:23
I I think it is going to be good, so I am voting in favor of this. 01:44:24
Supervisor Conway. 01:44:28
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to add that the Executive Committee debated this. 01:44:30
Strongly. 01:44:35
Over several discussions and. 01:44:38
It came to the board because in the long run we did realize that it is what we do. 01:44:42
Would be best for the county and it's best for the different. 01:44:47
Divisions within the county. 01:44:50
That we will have a professionally. 01:44:52
Run fleet maintenance program. 01:44:55
And fleet. 01:44:58
Thank you, Sir. 01:44:59
Supervisor. 01:45:06
Thank you. 01:45:08
Hope all of you got a chance to. 01:45:10
Watch the exec committee debate. It was very enlightening. A lot of. 01:45:12
Points brought up. That's why we record these meetings, so you can. 01:45:16
Get a view of it. The only question that. 01:45:20
Wasn't answered. I thought was. 01:45:22
How can you determine what? 01:45:24
The profit is. 01:45:26
If you just compare. 01:45:29
Savings based upon what was budgeted for the vehicle versus what you actually paid because as was brought up at that meeting. 01:45:31
When a budget goes in place, they kind of figure 5010 thousand extra just to make sure they have enough budgeted. 01:45:38
But when you figure that number against what it costs, that might be a. 01:45:46
Savings, that is sort of. 01:45:51
Not realistic, so I didn't know if there was an answer to that question or not. I didn't see one. 01:45:53
At that meeting and it looked like the next meeting wasn't requ. 01:45:59
Wasn't recorded and if I may have been answered then or not I don't know. So I didn't know if anybody. 01:46:03
Knew anything about that? 01:46:08
Supervisor Houchin. 01:46:12
I just wondered, are we doing? 01:46:15
We're only doing a. 01:46:17
Some vehicles. 01:46:18
Time. Am I correct, Annette? 01:46:20
Yeah, they're the. 01:46:21
The actual is. 01:46:23
Basically, it's based on 15 vehicles that the Sheriff's Department. 01:46:24
For a total cost of $9000 if. 01:46:29
For one year. 01:46:31
So highway is not involved at all? Highway is not involved. Thank you. 01:46:32
Mr. Clapper, just for clarification, so of those vehicles, there are 15. They're not all exclusively sheriff. They are. 01:46:39
So there are vehicles I believe also from highway. 01:46:47
But. 01:46:50
For certain, there are more than just the. 01:46:51
Sheriff, we have vehicles. 01:46:54
Elsewhere in Dodge County that that would also be included. 01:46:58
In the program, but I can't speak to the specific amount or a specific number of and from which department. I just know that it's. 01:47:01
10 are squad cars. 01:47:08
The rest are. 01:47:09
Not necessarily sheriff's. 01:47:11
Just to clarify. Thank you. 01:47:15
I think you still correct it. 01:47:16
We're talking about non CDL vehicles so. 01:47:19
Not much going on in the highway department. 01:47:21
For non CDL vehicles. 01:47:24
Super Fraser Brill. 01:47:27
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:47:28
So just clarify now this. 01:47:30
The amount of money that we're spending that is just for management of our maintenance or is that including? 01:47:33
Maintenance. 01:47:40
It is management. 01:47:41
Thank you. 01:47:48
Anyone else? 01:47:50
OK, if you if you agree with the with the recommendation of the committee, please vote yes if you do not. 01:47:53
Please vote no. 01:47:59
All having voted, it passes 27 to 1. 01:48:07
Resolution. 01:48:13
2566. 01:48:14
Resolution supporting legislation to enact. 01:48:16
Sustainable transportation funding. 01:48:20
All but just respectfully submitted this 11th day of February 2026. 01:48:23
Signed by six members of the Dodge County Executive Committee. 01:48:28
And there is no fiscal note. 01:48:34
I have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger, second by Supervisor Burnett. 01:48:37
Any questions on this? 01:48:43
This is. 01:48:46
Basically. 01:48:47
So go ahead, Supervisor Johnson. Yeah, we would just got back from the ledge conference. Dave and I were in at. I believe there's 01:48:49
40. Is there about 40 counties, Dave, on this? About 40 counties have passed this already. 01:48:55
And that our top. 01:49:00
Our top leaders of our government in Wisconsin said you know that that really impacts their decision making today. They told us 01:49:02
they know this is a priority coming up. 01:49:07
We're not the only county that has this need. 01:49:11
And they're trying really hard to get all, all the counties and that'll make a very strong, powerful statement as they approach 01:49:14
the next budget cycle so that that we're in the context of working with already 40 counties. And now we'll be, I think the 41st or 01:49:19
second county doing this. So we do want to send that strong statement because us lobbying alone is not, is not going to be enough 01:49:25
that that's a, it's a big, it's a big problem. 01:49:30
The the the amount they have been giving us and to all the counties has not kept up with inflation and the the cost of roads is 01:49:37
far exceeded. 01:49:41
So the problem we're feeling here in our county is a bigger problem than just. 01:49:45
Trained to squeeze another dollar out of. 01:49:50
Some other department or something It's it's a much bigger problem that the real problem and the scope of this problem is. 01:49:53
Roads costs have a higher. 01:49:59
You know, higher costs over the last several years if you look at a chart compared to the roads the actual expenses were 01:50:01
incurring. So I strongly support this and and I and I do think we're going to make some progress on the legislative front. Thank 01:50:06
you. 01:50:11
Anyone else? 01:50:18
If you agree with the. 01:50:21
Recommendation. 01:50:22
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:50:24
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 01:50:33
Resolution. 01:50:43
2567. 01:50:44
Resolution supporting legislation creating a state individual disaster relief assistance program. 01:50:47
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 01:50:54
Signed by six members of the Dodge Party Executive Committee. And there's no fiscal loan. 01:51:00
By Supervisor Guckenberger. Second by Supervisor Burnett. 01:51:07
Any comments on this one? 01:51:12
Any comments? 01:51:18
If you agree with the resolution, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:51:20
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 01:51:29
Resolution 2568. 01:51:35
2026 Dodge County Highway Department budget amendment. Wisconsin Department of Transportation funding brine system replacement. 01:51:39
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 01:51:50
Signed by five members of the Dodge County Highway Committee. 01:51:55
Fiscal note. 01:51:59
Wisconsin Department of Transportation is funding the purchase of a state owned brine maker. 01:52:02
And Brian Holding takes. 01:52:08
The 2026 Dodge County budget will increase by revenues and expenses in the amount of $200,000. 01:52:10
No county funds will be used for the purchase. 01:52:17
Finance Committee review date February 2nd, 2026. 01:52:21
Initialed by Finance Committee chair. 01:52:25
OK. I have a motion by Supervisor Gutenberger's, second by Supervisor Kraus. 01:52:27
Any questions on? 01:52:32
This. 01:52:34
Any questions? 01:52:37
If you. 01:52:42
Supervisor clock. Oh sorry I just wanted some clarification. What was the 200,000 for? 01:52:43
Of brine maker. 01:52:48
But she said there was no cost. 01:52:50
To the county states going to pay for it. 01:52:52
All OK. Thank you. 01:52:55
OK. And. 01:52:58
Supervisor, Brazil. 01:53:00
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, it's. 01:53:01
$200,000 we're getting from the state it's gonna fully fund. 01:53:03
A new Brian system replacement. 01:53:06
And we, I believe, also are allowed to keep whatever is leftover. 01:53:09
The cost doesn't get up to 200,000 so. 01:53:14
OK. If you agree with the committee's recommendation, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:53:23
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 01:53:34
Resolution 25-69. 01:53:41
A resolution of the Dodge County land. 01:53:47
Resources and Parks Committee. 01:53:50
Recommendation to adopt A 2045 Dodge County Comprehensive Plan update. 01:53:52
All of which is respectfully submitted the 16th day of December, 2025. 01:53:59
Signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks Committee. 01:54:04
Have a motion by Supervisor Burnett, the second by Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:54:08
This this motion is to bring. 01:54:14
It to the board. 01:54:16
And any amendments would be when we do. 01:54:19
The ordinance. 01:54:23
Supervisor Gavis Einstein. 01:54:28
I did have one question and maybe we need to do it when we bring the ordinance on page 22. 01:54:31
Of the document. 01:54:38
Section 1.3 it says that the. 01:54:40
Dodge County, 2045 Comprehensive. 01:54:43
Plan was recommended to the county board. 01:54:46
Via resolution on December 8th, 2025. 01:54:49
Except the right date and then it says it was a. 01:54:54
A public hearing. 01:54:57
On February 17th of 2025. 01:54:59
Are those the correct dates? 01:55:02
The public hearing is not because it got moved up because we changed the county board meeting. I know that well. It says 20252025. 01:55:04
It's 2026 and and. 01:55:10
So and the other one says December 8th I think. 01:55:16
Yeah, so that. 01:55:19
Obviously needs to change. 01:55:20
The question back there native is. 01:55:29
And made I'm sorry I told you. 01:55:32
Page 22. 01:55:34
24 it's page 20. 01:55:35
Two of the document 24 when you look. 01:55:37
Yeah. So the December 8th was committee meeting, I believe. 01:55:41
So that was. 01:55:44
Yeah, that was the resolution. 01:55:48
That they recommended. 01:55:50
Recommended the county board. 01:55:51
So the resolution was recommended to the board. 01:55:56
On that date. 01:56:00
So when they recommended it. 01:56:01
That's when they that's when their meeting was recommended to come here. 01:56:03
That was, that was wrong. 01:56:09
Yes, that was a mistake. So. 01:56:10
One of the things that there are some. 01:56:13
We don't need amendments for. 01:56:16
Clerical. 01:56:18
Errors within when they're pointed out, we'll take care of those. 01:56:20
Supervisor Belk. 01:56:27
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:56:29
So is this comprehensive? 01:56:31
Plan ready for prime time, meaning that. 01:56:33
You know, with those changes that were brought up tonight. 01:56:36
For some cheap. 01:56:39
You know reviews and changes. 01:56:40
I mean, would it be more appropriate that? 01:56:42
Postponed us until next meeting. 01:56:45
The downside would be we'd probably have to have another public hearing. 01:56:48
Post that. 01:56:53
Why would we have another public hearing? Just have 1:00 tonight because it. 01:56:54
6 for any significant changes. 01:56:57
That would be in the original document. At that point we can amend during the year. 01:57:01
Couple times a year if we need to. 01:57:07
If you guys want to follow up on that back there. 01:57:12
Go ahead, Bill. 01:57:16
Yeah, if there's significant change, if if you make an amendment to make significant changes. 01:57:19
You would need to go to another public hearing again. 01:57:25
Because. 01:57:27
We can't just. 01:57:28
The map, The map and document have been out there in the public purview. 01:57:32
They're expecting it to be the way it is. 01:57:36
And so we can't just go ahead and change something at the last minute. 01:57:40
Without going through another public hearing process. 01:57:44
For that. 01:57:48
What was? 01:58:00
Any comment on that or Kim, do you want to weigh in or? 01:58:04
If there is going to be a significant change, that was brought up at the public hearing. 01:58:09
Tonight. 01:58:13
The method to do that would be to refer back to the committee, but it is true that you would need when you bring it back to the 01:58:15
board. 01:58:18
A public hearing on the night of that meeting. 01:58:22
As Bill mentioned or somebody mentioned. 01:58:25
If there are changes. 01:58:29
That are amendments to the plan over the course of the year that can be done and that would. 01:58:31
Reside or. 01:58:37
Be started at the committee level. 01:58:38
So those suggested changes could be done starting at the committee level throughout the year. 01:58:40
So I would also add that. 01:58:48
That there could be tweaks, you could make amendments to this. 01:58:51
As long as they're. 01:58:54
Deemed to be insignificant. 01:58:55
Tonight, uh. 01:58:57
To clarify, I guess, but if you're doing something significant. 01:58:58
Then you'd have to kick it back and potentially another county or another public hearing. 01:59:03
But I I would just. 01:59:08
Add that if there are. 01:59:10
Insignificant changes, if you will. 01:59:13
They should be made when the ordinance comes up. 01:59:16
For consideration. 01:59:19
This resolution is your recommendation. 01:59:20
That you're hearing from the Land, Resources and Parks Committee. 01:59:23
To move the plan forward. So that's the purpose of the resolution when you get to the ordinance then if there are. 01:59:27
Minor changes. 01:59:35
That would be the appropriate time to do that. 01:59:36
And supervisor. 01:59:41
I just want to. 01:59:44
Clarify on the Emmett Watertown. 01:59:45
Map issue. 01:59:49
They're both fully aware, is that correct? They're both fully aware that they need to take action and and meet. 01:59:53
To work this out. 02:00:00
Because I know we saw the e-mail some of us received from Mayor Stocks concerning this. 02:00:02
I I just want to make sure that they actually. 02:00:10
Do their part. 02:00:13
And not put it back onto our shoulders and and. 02:00:14
Make it our problem when it's. 02:00:17
Really issue between. 02:00:19
The town and the city. 02:00:21
Can I speak? 02:00:28
Sure, go ahead. Yes, so actually. 02:00:29
City of Watertown mayor is here. He's in the back. There's been conversations between the city of Watertown and the town of 02:00:33
Emmett. 02:00:36
And they are aware of our recommendation as staff that. 02:00:40
They need to go back to the table and address the future land use area around the city because there's inconsistencies. 02:00:44
With what's been proposed, with what's in their plan and the agreement. 02:00:51
And to be honest with you, it's not something the the county can help the conversation, but it's really something that the town of 02:00:55
Emmett and the city of Watertown need to work together on and come up with a collaborative solution and jointly then. 02:01:01
Propose something to Dodge County. 02:01:07
To be honest with you, it's it's a bigger item down there for them. 02:01:09
And it really deserves its own time, it's its own project, its own merit. 02:01:13
To come up with a solution that works for both which I. 02:01:18
Perfectly think they can. 02:01:21
That I don't think that's going to be issues coming up with a solution. I think they can. They just need to individually look at 02:01:23
some of these parcels that are of concern. 02:01:26
As well as with the land owners. 02:01:30
The land owners need to be consulted on some of this too. 02:01:31
I think they need to get together. 02:01:34
Hash this out. It's going to take some time. It's going to take some months. It's not going to be. 02:01:36
They give something to the LRP committee next, you know, next month and we bring it back. This is going to take a little bit of 02:01:40
time to hash this out, so. 02:01:43
Our recommendation is. 02:01:47
The the plan is good right now how we have it. 02:01:49
This item that came up with Emmett Water Watertown let them hash it out and then jointly propose. 02:01:51
A solution that Dodge County that we can then bring. 02:01:58
Forward as an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan. 02:02:01
Just remember, we do amendments to the comprehensive plan throughout the year. We allow it. 02:02:04
Twice. And it's very routine for this to go through the committee and have amendments to a comp plan, especially with rezoning. 02:02:08
You guys actually see that? 02:02:12
Somewhat often. 02:02:16
Supervisor Houchin. 02:02:19
Thank you. When? 02:02:20
Are we required to have this? 02:02:22
Done for the state. 02:02:24
What is the date that this has to be done by? 02:02:26
Yep. What's that? 02:02:29
Last year. 02:02:32
So, but we're still no Kathy, we're still good. Don't worry. So what? Dodge County has a comprehensive plan. Any community that 02:02:33
has a land division ordinance or zoning ordinance or official mapping is just required to update their plan every 10 years. 02:02:39
So. 02:02:46
We began the process, you know, in advance of that. We're good. It's just you have to amend it every 10 years, give it a good 02:02:47
thorough. 02:02:51
Review uh. 02:02:55
So we're right in there with it. 02:02:55
Anyone else? 02:03:01
OK. The the motion, the resolution is to bring it to the board so we can go forward. 02:03:04
If you agree with that. 02:03:11
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:03:12
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:03:17
Resolution 25. 02:03:24
70. 02:03:28
Rec Amend town zoning ordinance Town of Beaver Dam. 02:03:33
David P Schmidt and Catherine Eastman, Property. 02:03:38
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of August, 2025. 02:03:43
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report favorably on the petition of David D of David Beachman and 02:03:48
Catherine Eastmont. 02:03:53
Signed by. 02:03:59
Five members of the Land resources in Parks City. 02:04:01
And there is no fiscal note. 02:04:06
OK, I have a motion by supervisor Bubbles and second by supervisor Cavazanjan. 02:04:09
Supervisor my now. 02:04:17
Am I correct in assuming that this is of? 02:04:20
Greater weight than these normal rubber stamps. 02:04:24
Are that this is AR-1 residential rezoning where we're normally doing? 02:04:27
A1 to A2. 02:04:32
Bill or. 02:04:37
Oh yeah, attorney. 02:04:40
So. So it's a town rezone. 02:04:48
It's not a county rezone. 02:04:50
So. 02:04:52
You know, that's that's ultimately their decision. All we do is make sure that they're following procedure. 02:04:56
Properly in which they are in this case so. 02:05:01
That would actually have been a question for the town itself. 02:05:05
OK. 02:05:14
Question. OK. 02:05:17
Supervisor Clock Hall. 02:05:19
So if that's a question for the town. 02:05:21
How do we vote on that? 02:05:25
We don't have the answer to that. 02:05:27
May just confuse. I could just be confused too so. 02:05:29
The. 02:05:32
All we all we are doing is saying that the town. 02:05:33
Followed their correct procedures. 02:05:36
That's what we're voting on. 02:05:38
OK. And we know that they did. 02:05:39
Is that correct? 02:05:43
Thank you. 02:05:46
Anything else? 02:05:49
If you agree with the recommendation of the committee, please vote yes. 02:05:51
If you do not, please vote no. 02:05:55
All having voted, it passes 27 to 1. 02:06:05
Ordinance. 02:06:10
Number 1188. 02:06:11
An ordinance to adopt the Dodge County 2045 Comprehensive Plan. 02:06:14
All of which is respectfully submitted this 11th day of February, 2026. 02:06:23
Signed by 1 member of the Dodge County Land Resources and Parks Committee. 02:06:28
OK, I have a motion by Supervisor Beal, second by Supervisor Burnett. 02:06:36
Supervisor segment. 02:06:42
Thank you. I'd like to make an amendment right now. 02:06:44
On the future land use map, that's map 8 dash. 02:06:47
A change. 02:06:52
The future land use designation for Parcel. 02:06:53
036-0913-1242. 02:06:56
Dash 000 in the town of Portland, from the single family residential designation to the agricultural designation. 02:07:00
It was just discovered this morning I received a call that the landowner noticed it was. 02:07:08
Listed wrong de. 02:07:14
Their parcel was yellow instead of green. 02:07:16
And I spoke with the landowner, obviously, and the town. 02:07:19
Chairman. 02:07:23
And they are all in favor of this change. It was an oversight on their part somewhere along the line. 02:07:24
Any other? 02:07:33
Questions on the amendment. 02:07:35
Are you ready? OK. 02:07:40
But OK. 02:07:43
We are ready to vote on the amendment if there are no other questions. 02:07:45
OK, If you agree with the amendment, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:07:50
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:08:00
And now we're back to the. 02:08:04
Ordinance as amended. 02:08:06
And that ordinance is on the. 02:08:12
In on the floor, is there any other discussion on the ordinance? 02:08:15
Supervisor Belk. All right, thank. 02:08:25
Mr. Chairman. 02:08:28
Hey, just to go back quick on. 02:08:29
City of Watertown and the town. 02:08:31
What what they have to what the city have to amend their comp plan too before it comes back to this body? 02:08:34
Having looked at it, I think so. 02:08:44
I would think. 02:08:46
But that's their. That's their. 02:08:48
Once they have it resolved and they have their they would have to update. 02:08:51
Correct, that's up to them. That's Dodge County has no say in that. That's play up to the city of Watertown. 02:08:54
I would definitely recommend though that they really look at it. 02:08:59
Supervisor. 02:09:04
No. 02:09:08
OK. Any other questions? 02:09:13
If you agree with the ordinance as amended. 02:09:17
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:09:20
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:09:27
Claim one. 02:09:33
Can the recommendation of the Dodge County Corporation Council in consultation with Wisconsin Municipal Mutual Insurance Company? 02:09:35
We, the Dodge County Executive Committee, recommend that the Dodge County Board of Supervisors disallow the claim. 02:09:44
Made by. 02:09:50
Cindy. Cindy. 02:09:51
Liked Fuss dated November 4th 2025 alleging damage to a 2026 black GMC media. 02:09:54
Dated this fifth day of January 2026. Signed by seven members of the Executive Committee. 02:10:03
Have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger and second by Supervisor Beal. 02:10:10
Any questions this is. 02:10:16
A motion to deny the claim based on the. 02:10:18
Insurance companies recommendation. 02:10:21
Any questions? 02:10:24
If you agree with the recommendation to deny, please vote yes if you do not. 02:10:26
Please vote no. 02:10:31
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:10:35
Claim 2. 02:10:41
On the recommendation of Dodge County Corporation Council and consultation with Wisconsin Municipal Mutual Insurance Company. 02:10:44
We, the Dodge County Executive Committee, recommend that the Dodge County Board of Supervisors disallow the claim made by Miles 02:10:51
Hussey. 02:10:55
Dated November 14th, 2025. Alleging damage to a 1994 red Dodge Dakota. 02:10:59
Dated the second day of February 2026. 02:11:05
Signed by six members of the Dodge County Executive Committee. 02:11:09
I have a motion by Supervisor Beal, second by Supervisor Grukenberger. 02:11:13
Any questions on this one? 02:11:18
If you agree with the with the. 02:11:21
Recommendation of the Committee to deny please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 02:11:24
Supervisor Keel. 02:11:39
I need you to. 02:11:42
All having voted, it passes 28 to 0. 02:11:44
What do we have on the desk tonight? 02:11:48
On your desks, you have a flyer or reminder for the Dodge County apparel sale. 02:11:51
Also, and there's a nice QR code on the back. 02:11:59
To easily scan. 02:12:02
And then also. 02:12:04
Umm, a postcard. 02:12:07
About the admin insight. 02:12:11
E-mail that will be coming out. 02:12:15
And also the Dodge County parks. 02:12:18
Newsletter. 02:12:20
Super Razor Johnson. 02:12:25
Make a motion to adjourn to the next meeting on Tuesday, March 17th. 02:12:26
2026 at 6:00 PM. 02:12:30
Have a second by Supervisor Miller. All in favor signify by aye. 02:12:33
Aye, opposed that is carried. 02:12:37