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Under God, indivisible. 00:00:00
With liberty and justice for all. 00:00:02
All right, Please remember to. 00:00:09
Punch in. 00:00:12
Supervisor Breslow, Supervisor Sigmund, Supervisor Yarrick are excused. 00:00:15
Supervisor Frivolt is on the phone. 00:00:21
All right, what's your pleasure? The minutes from October 21st, 28th and 30th. 00:00:34
Motion. 00:00:46
Supervisor. 00:00:47
Kane. 00:00:48
Nothing coming up. 00:00:55
Not coming up on my screen. 00:00:58
OK. We have a motion by Supervisor Kane, second by Supervisor Guckenberger. 00:01:04
Any additions or corrections? 00:01:09
Seeing none all in favor signify by aye. 00:01:14
Opposed. 00:01:18
That is carried. 00:01:19
Communications on file. 00:01:21
Communications on file. 00:01:26
There is copies on your. 00:01:29
Desk to refer to. 00:01:32
There is. 00:01:34
One from the Land, Resources and Parks Department. 00:01:36
Regarding the Dodge County Con. 00:01:39
Apprehensive plan update. 00:01:43
And also there is a communication from retired Highway Commissioner Fields. 00:01:45
OK. 00:01:55
Public comment Is there anything out there? No public comment. 00:02:00
#7 is a special order of business to confirm reappointments by County Board Chair. 00:02:05
Of Jeff Dukach, Marianne Zastrow, Tom Schaefer, Mary Schaefer and Lori Courts the Friends of Clearview for a two year term. 00:02:10
To expire December 31st, 2027. 00:02:18
Have a motion by Supervisor Hendricks, second by Supervisor Stager. 00:02:22
Any questions or comments? 00:02:27
Seeing none all in favor signify by aye. 00:02:31
Aye, opposed. 00:02:34
That is carried. 00:02:36
All right. 00:02:39
#8. 00:02:42
Is a motion to use the. 00:02:43
Unused levy from previous year. 00:02:46
To in an amount of 58,000 and 30 dollars. 00:02:50
I need do I have a motion? 00:02:57
All right. I have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger, second by Supervisor Keel. 00:03:02
Any questions? 00:03:07
Seeing none. 00:03:12
All I'm that one. This is a 2/3 vote, so we need to. 00:03:13
Have you vote if you agree? 00:03:18
With the. 00:03:20
Recommendation to use the amount of unused levy of 58-O30. Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:03:21
Supervisor Free Vault. 00:03:36
Yes. 00:03:39
All having passes it. 00:03:41
All having voted, it passes 30 to 0. 00:03:43
#9. 00:03:49
Commendation for Brian Field. 00:03:51
Resolutions on file. 00:03:54
25. 00:03:58
45 Commendation of Brian Field. 00:03:59
Whereas Brian Field has contributed. 00:04:04
20 years of dedicated service to Dodge County and the citizens of Dodge County. 00:04:07
And whereas. 00:04:11
Dodge County and its citizens have benefited from the services he has provided. 00:04:13
And whereas Brian Field has chosen to retire from his present position of Hwy. Commissioner. 00:04:17
With the Dodge County Highway Department. 00:04:22
And now there be it. Resolved that we, the Dodge County Board of Supervisors, pause in its deliberations. 00:04:25
To recognize and commend Brian Field for his 20 years of meritorious service. 00:04:32
And be it further resolved. 00:04:37
That on behalf of the citizens of Dodge County, and this board does herewith extend. 00:04:39
To his appreciation for his money, accomplishments and successes over the 20 years of service. 00:04:44
And be it finally resolved that a copy of this resolution be entered into the official records of the Dodge County Board of 00:04:50
Supervisors. 00:04:54
And that a copy of this resolution be forwarded to Brian Field as a token of appreciation and. 00:04:57
Part of this board. 00:05:03
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 00:05:04
Signed by five members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:05:09
Please rise for a standing vote of acceptance. 00:05:13
Thank you. 00:05:24
Resolution. 00:05:30
2546. 00:05:32
A resolution authorizing the acquisition of easements for the Gold Star Memorial Trail, Phase 2. 00:05:40
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 00:05:47
Signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks Committee. 00:05:52
Fiscal note. 00:05:56
Friends of Dodge County Park Inc has pledged funds to cover the. 00:05:57
Of the acquisition of easements contingent upon the approval of this resolution. 00:06:02
And will be documented accordingly once approved. 00:06:08
Due to confidentiality concerns regarding the committed funds, we are unable to disclose the specific amount at this time. 00:06:11
Finance Committee Review date November 3rd, 2025 Signed by Finance Committee Chair. 00:06:19
I have a motion by supervisor Grukenberger and second by supervisor Molly. 00:06:26
Any questions, comments? 00:06:31
On this resolution. 00:06:33
Any questions? 00:06:37
Seeing none if you agree with the resolution to. 00:06:40
Purchase the easements. 00:06:44
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:06:46
Free Vault. 00:06:54
Yes. 00:06:56
All having voted, it passes 30 to 0. 00:06:59
OK. 00:07:06
So before I read. 00:07:09
The next resolution title. 00:07:12
I just want to remind everybody. 00:07:14
That the amendments that are already currently on file. 00:07:17
When we put, when we get to those. 00:07:21
We have to enter the motion of who submitted those amendment. 00:07:24
And then somebody can second so. 00:07:28
Please wait until we enter the motion first. 00:07:30
Perfect. 00:07:35
25472026 Dodge County budget appropriation. 00:07:38
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 00:07:47
Signed by four members of the Finance Committee. 00:07:52
Fiscal Note This resolution constitutes the proposed 2026 Dodge County budget with a proposed property tax levy of. 00:07:56
$37,139,222. 00:08:07
Finance Committee Meeting date November 3rd, 2025 in. 00:08:11
Initialed by Finance Committee chair. 00:08:16
OK, we have a motion by Supervisor Kane. 00:08:18
And they? 00:08:22
2nd. 00:08:24
Second by supervisor Keel. 00:08:27
So the. 00:08:30
Budget is now on the floor and. 00:08:31
We can go to. 00:08:35
Discussion or amendments? Supervisor Kavazanjan. 00:08:37
I'll I'll wait on my amendment. 00:08:42
My my comments, I'm sorry. 00:08:45
OK, Supervisor Guckenberger. 00:08:48
I make a motion to amend the budget. 00:08:51
Based on amendment #3 as shown in the. 00:08:54
Agenda. 00:08:58
To include one highway project resurfacing currently unfunded county highway P. 00:08:59
From Coney Hwy. 60 to County Highway 30, three 7.4 miles. 00:09:03
OK. Is that amendment out there? 00:09:09
I believe based on what Danielle said that that amendment. 00:09:14
Needs to be. 00:09:20
Submitted by Supervisor segment as the motion right. 00:09:21
Yeah, yeah. 00:09:25
So he's not here. 00:09:28
I'm I'm, I'm taking the same words and I'm proposing as as an amendment. 00:09:31
Now I'd be happy to bring this up and put my name on the bottom. 00:09:36
No, that's OK. 00:09:41
We will just when we get to that amendment, we'll put it in with you as the motion. 00:09:42
I understand. I I'm bringing this amendment to the floor right now. 00:09:47
So is this a motion to amend? Yes, there's a motion to amend the budget. 00:09:51
As outlined in amendment #3. 00:09:55
I'm sorry. 00:09:58
Is this a motion to amend the agenda to allow that to be first? 00:09:59
It's just an amendment to the budget it's being presented by. 00:10:03
Supervisor Gutenberger. 00:10:07
OK, understood. 00:10:08
That's OK. So we're going to. 00:10:11
But then we're going to edit it. 00:10:18
F1 and you can do. 00:10:29
Can you please hit motion? 00:10:33
We Yeah. 00:10:35
Are on it. Can you hit motions who? Thank you Sir. 00:10:36
OK, and now we just need a second. 00:10:40
Have a second by Supervisor Burnett. 00:10:46
OK. Mr. Guckenberger, do you want to speak to your? 00:10:52
Amendment. 00:10:56
Sure. 00:10:57
So. 00:10:59
Being a member of Exec committee. 00:11:01
As well as the Finance Committee of this, this was the first motion that was presented. 00:11:03
To to the budget the 1st Amendment proposed. 00:11:09
And despite the fact that. 00:11:12
These four amendments that we see on this piece of paper on our agenda. 00:11:16
It's it's only fair. 00:11:21
That this one be evaluated in terms of its. 00:11:24
Presentation. 00:11:30
Needs to be presented first. 00:11:31
And I wanted to make sure that it was first. 00:11:33
Because. 00:11:36
Once we start dealing with these amendments, if if one does pass, then it's going to preclude the ability to do any of the other 00:11:38
ones. 00:11:41
So. 00:11:46
That's my justification for bringing it forward. 00:11:48
And as you would know by the minutes of the exec meeting, the clerk brought it up as an agenda item. 00:11:51
And the agenda was approved at that time. 00:11:58
So. 00:12:01
Supervisor. 00:12:04
Thank you. I want to agree with. 00:12:08
Supervisor. 00:12:11
Guggenberger, I feel like these amendments were listed. 00:12:14
And they should be listed in the order they were received. 00:12:17
And we know that the one that you were doing first was not. 00:12:20
And I feel like it was that the administrator wanted to go first because it's basically what the administrators. 00:12:24
Suggested at the Exact and Finance Committee. 00:12:29
So I think. 00:12:32
Mr. Sigmund should go first. Thank you. 00:12:33
I will respond to that. In it, it was not the administrator, it was my call and it is not the same as what it was at the Finance 00:12:37
Committee. 00:12:41
Mr. Conway. 00:12:46
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:12:48
Just because I want to clarify for myself. 00:12:50
This motion was. 00:12:54
Or this amendment was brought up first? 00:12:55
But this new. 00:13:01
Amendment. 00:13:03
Is not. 00:13:04
The same because it's brought by Supervisor Gutenberg. 00:13:06
I just want to get a clarification on it. 00:13:09
So we don't have an issue sometime later on. 00:13:12
That's all. 00:13:14
So to me I look and go if this is new. 00:13:16
Brought by Supervisor Cuckoo Berger. Wouldn't this be? 00:13:18
The last amendment. 00:13:21
Or would this be? 00:13:23
Moving this other amendment to. 00:13:25
Top of the. 00:13:28
Line because it was brought forward. 00:13:29
1st. 00:13:31
I'm just again, I don't. 00:13:32
Have the rules down pad enough? I'm looking for a clarification. 00:13:33
Thank you. And that is why I asked if it was a motion to amend the agenda and. 00:13:36
Mr. Grukenberger said it was not. 00:13:42
So. 00:13:45
Corp Council, do you want to weigh in? 00:13:48
No, I actually don't. 00:13:53
Want to want to weigh in on this. I I mean it. It really is a procedural matter. 00:13:55
So to Supervisor Conway's point. 00:14:01
It probably would be the 5th Amendment, but what I understand Supervisor Gutenberger wanting to do is bring the. 00:14:04
Amendments forward in the order in which they were received. 00:14:12
As probably everyone knows, Supervisor Sigmund's amendment was. 00:14:16
It presented. 00:14:21
Even to the Finance Committee. 00:14:23
And in the Finance Committee decided to pass it along to the board. 00:14:25
Without an endorsement because they didn't take any action. 00:14:29
So I mean. 00:14:32
We can be technical about it, or we can be. 00:14:35
Common sense about it Supervisor Gutenberger is simply bringing forward. 00:14:37
First supervisor segments amendment. 00:14:42
So I understand what you're saying, Supervisor Conway, but. 00:14:44
Let's let's not stumble over the procedure. 00:14:47
I bringing amendment number. 00:14:51
3. 00:14:53
Forward first, I think the Board needs to speak to that amendment and deal with that amendment in. 00:14:54
Dispose of it how? 00:15:00
It wishes. 00:15:02
Yeah, I am good. 00:15:04
So am I so. 00:15:06
Super a group member you want to speak again or. 00:15:08
I don't know if I'm still on, but I think it would be appropriate for the amendment. 00:15:14
To be explained to the board. 00:15:18
Walk through it so that. 00:15:20
Everyone understands the impact of it. 00:15:22
And the the. 00:15:25
Obviously the road project that's being proposed and how it's being funded. 00:15:27
According to this amendment. 00:15:31
So, and if Supervisor Sigmund would would be here, he would be the first to speak to it. So I I guess I would just defer to 00:15:33
Supervisor Gutenberger to give that explanation. 00:15:38
OK, here we go. OK, so the desire is to include highway P for a section of a 7.4 miles. Basically it's. 00:15:44
From a highway. 00:15:52
33 to. 00:15:53
County highway, or I mean state highway 60. 00:15:56
The total expected cost was 4 point. 00:16:01
$3,000,000. 00:16:04
And the source of the funding would be a sales tax fund balance in the amount of 500,000. 00:16:07
$2,000,000 again from the sales tax that's been earmarked for economic development. So that would be an adjustment there. 00:16:13
A reduction of that 2 1/2 percent. 00:16:21
In salaries. 00:16:26
Or expected raises. 00:16:28
And these are the people above Step 5. 00:16:30
In the merit range. 00:16:34
Which we were told would be about $113,000. 00:16:35
And then I'll transfer the general fund balance which we were told. 00:16:39
The available fund balance was around $10 million. 00:16:44
That the grant money is grant. 00:16:49
That's available if we do this road. 00:16:52
So really what we're trying to do is capture that $1,000,000 in grants available for that project. 00:16:55
And. 00:17:02
Do the rest of the funding. 00:17:03
This would bring the total miles. 00:17:05
Completed in 26 to. 00:17:08
Just under 16 miles. 00:17:12
Supervisor Durer. 00:17:17
Thank you. 00:17:22
Mr. Chair. 00:17:23
I have some real. 00:17:26
Concerns about. 00:17:28
Not just the substance, but. 00:17:30
How this board is going? 00:17:32
To conduct. 00:17:34
Policy. 00:17:35
So in one amendment. 00:17:37
We're going to change the entire planning. 00:17:39
Of. 00:17:42
Wages. 00:17:42
Across the county. 00:17:44
Right, which is its own really significant entity and package. 00:17:45
Which had. 00:17:51
Really many, many months, maybe even years right into looking at the market, looking how you. 00:17:52
Want to give compensation but you don't want to give away the boat? And yet you can't. 00:17:59
Supervisor, you can't provide too much, right? 00:18:03
To initial people because the people above would get caught up. So there's this entire very well thought out step process that's 00:18:06
already been approved by this county board and we are not. 00:18:12
Human. 00:18:18
Resource. 00:18:19
Professionals. 00:18:20
And none of us. 00:18:21
Even those of us like me who read it a long time ago are really, really familiar. 00:18:23
Maybe I shouldn't speak for you, I'm not really familiar. 00:18:28
With the most recent McGrath study which I read years ago, right? So this is not the way to change. 00:18:31
Policy. 00:18:38
On such an important topic as wages, it's like. 00:18:39
2nd, it's not the way to do policy for a comprehensive plan for roads. 00:18:43
It's a multi multi multi $1,000,000. 00:18:50
It decision mm. 00:18:53
And you can't just grab pieces here and there, right and stuff it in and say, good, now we're covered for this year. What are we 00:18:55
doing next year? 00:18:59
Right. So this administrator has put forth a plan that includes long term funding and planning for roads into the future and if 00:19:03
people are worried that it has to be paid back. 00:19:10
Remember too that if the taxpayers in five years are paying back. 00:19:17
Right. Those who are 18 now or 17 and they're gonna be 25, they're the ones using the good roads. 00:19:22
So it makes sense. 00:19:27
That that folks can pay into the future. 00:19:30
And future boards will thank us for having done something. 00:19:33
On highways that is thoughtful and comprehensive. 00:19:37
And then the third policy that's getting upended is for two. 00:19:41
Years we've been listening. 00:19:45
To the importance of economic development. 00:19:47
Our board approved $2,000,000 that would be thoughtfully spent not in one big crack like 4 million for roads, but. 00:19:50
Little tiny pieces so that a. 00:19:58
10 million or $15 million development. 00:20:01
That's just $1,000,000 short. 00:20:03
And needs that little bounce from the county can go over the line. 00:20:06
And that's a lot of projects. 00:20:09
So those projects have a lot of things and then we are just helping get it over the line and that's the best use of money I can 00:20:11
imagine. So taking this beast meal. 00:20:17
Just to wrap in for. 00:20:22
How many roads, 40 miles and then upending all these other policies? 00:20:24
Is not. 00:20:29
The way to do thoughtful planning. 00:20:30
And it completely upends. 00:20:33
What I think has been the most thoughtful budget planning process that I've seen. 00:20:34
Ever. 00:20:38
Nothing further. 00:20:39
Supervisor Hedrick. 00:20:42
Oh, thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:20:46
I with in regards to what supervisor Durr just shared. 00:20:50
I was wondering if if it would be possible to hear from. 00:20:55
Our finance director, he presented because he presented about. 00:20:59
Long term budgeting at the Exec Committee meeting. 00:21:02
And that. 00:21:05
That was really eye opening to me. 00:21:06
The the concept of. 00:21:09
Of of thinking long term and why that is so important. 00:21:12
Does the board have any issue with that? 00:21:20
How is he going to tie it into this amendment? Because I, I think it, it does very much tie into kind of along the lines of what 00:21:23
Supervisor Durges said it ties into. 00:21:28
The benefits of looking at. 00:21:33
Roads from a long term perspective and budgeting for roads. 00:21:36
For example. 00:21:41
Not just roads, but. 00:21:42
In this case. 00:21:43
From a long term perspective. 00:21:45
Supervisor helps anyone speak to that. 00:21:50
Yes, I don't think we need to hear it. We've heard it from Mr. Clapper. 00:21:54
Already we had a whole board meeting where they. 00:21:58
Presented all this, I don't think that. 00:22:01
That will help us at this time, so I would be against it. 00:22:02
OK, That requires us to have a vote. Is that correct, Kim? 00:22:06
Thanks SO staff member. 00:22:11
Pardon Supervisor Grukenberger. 00:22:15
He's a staff member. We don't need to have a vote. 00:22:18
The rules were updated that we no longer need to vote for a staff member to address the board. 00:22:20
OK. 00:22:27
OK, can I just? 00:22:28
What but one point of clarification? 00:22:29
Despite the fact that the administrator may have put this fantastic plan together for roads. 00:22:32
There are three amendments of the four that are proposed, 3 out of the four. 00:22:37
Want to address Highway P. 00:22:41
So obviously it's missing in the budget. 00:22:43
Several. 00:22:46
Different members of this body have decided that hey, Highway P is an important part of this. 00:22:47
Whole planning process. 00:22:52
So, uh. 00:22:54
That's why. 00:22:56
That's why. 00:22:57
I I agree that. 00:22:58
Highway P should be done and I put it on the table. 00:23:00
But if you need some clarification on. 00:23:05
From, you know, how we might finance things in the future and all of that stuff if that's necessary. 00:23:08
The the amendment as proposed. 00:23:16
Fully funds. 00:23:19
Highway P. 00:23:21
The the the amendment is balanced. 00:23:22
Without any borrowing. Additional borrowing as presented. 00:23:26
You know, by the finance director. 00:23:29
And. 00:23:43
There you go. I think you. Yeah, OK. 00:23:44
Good SO. 00:23:47
To the, to the. 00:23:49
Question or request? 00:23:50
The information that was shared with the Finance Committee, I would defer to our finance Director to assist me in answering the 00:23:51
question. 00:23:54
He, we, we together shared information. 00:23:58
For my part. 00:24:02
I will just state the. 00:24:03
Components shared. 00:24:05
Really, we're talking about. 00:24:06
How to fund? 00:24:09
Projects. 00:24:10
And. 00:24:11
This the strategy that is very common and typically used for long term projects is to. 00:24:12
Fund with. 00:24:18
Issuing debt. 00:24:19
But there was additional detail. 00:24:21
That. 00:24:22
Nathan would be better equipped. Our finance director would be better equipped to share at this time. 00:24:24
I will try to be brief. 00:24:32
A lot of the information we shared at the the. 00:24:35
The Finance Committee and also at the Executive Committee. 00:24:37
I had already been presented or in part had been presented. 00:24:42
To this body. 00:24:46
We tried to present it just with a little bit more detail. 00:24:47
To the specific question, though, regarding financial planning and thinking forward into the future. 00:24:51
As you evaluate the amendment. 00:24:58
That you're. 00:25:00
Try again as you're evaluating the amendments that you have before you today. 00:25:04
It is important to think about. 00:25:09
Whether these funds are one time funds? 00:25:12
Or whether these will assist us moving forward? 00:25:14
And. 00:25:18
A lot of the. 00:25:20
One comment that I was not here to make at I believe you're the meeting on the 30th was regarding bond ratings. 00:25:22
Specifically, you want to show. 00:25:29
Good financial planning that you're not just looking at the short term trying to fill holes. 00:25:33
And so draining down fund balance. 00:25:38
At a significant amount. 00:25:41
Can actually be detrimental. 00:25:42
To your. 00:25:44
Bond ratings in the future? 00:25:46
That. 00:25:49
Really, what you're wanting to show and you're wanting to demonstrate is that you're thinking. 00:25:49
Forward, and not just in the current, the now. 00:25:54
Into today. 00:25:57
And so. 00:26:00
I think that sums up. 00:26:01
And I'm willing to answer more questions if there are specific questions regarding that. 00:26:03
But in general, what we've tried to show is we've tried to show the history. 00:26:09
And of the past. 00:26:14
Generally speaking, your capital projects that you're doing this year even in the base budget? 00:26:15
Is similar to what you did last year and in 2024. 00:26:21
It just. 00:26:25
You're limited on your ability. A large portion of what you're funding this year is through grants. 00:26:26
And in prior years, you had ARPA to support you? 00:26:33
With that drying up. 00:26:36
It's made it more difficult and so. 00:26:38
I hopefully I addressed. 00:26:40
What you're looking for? 00:26:43
Could you just share the perception? 00:26:44
Share the presents again, remind everybody I'm talking about and how much the supervisor stager are you wanting to talk about 00:26:46
this? 00:26:49
Amendment or? 00:26:54
I have one more, one more comment actually. 00:26:55
If I for the. 00:26:58
For the detail that was requested, I'm just asking for the the current budget scenario. 00:27:00
Talking about when we're discussing wages, the impact that wages have overall, which I know. 00:27:05
Is very limited. 00:27:10
But could you just share those percentages to wrap up that comment? 00:27:11
Yes, so. 00:27:15
We, we shared with you revenues and the percentage that the revenues cover operating costs. So currently right now. 00:27:16
Your highest portion of of revenue coverage. 00:27:24
Is in your charges for services at almost 50 percent 49. 00:27:27
.5% of your expenses are covered by charges for services. 00:27:32
Your property tax. 00:27:38
I showed the history 10 years ago was closer to 30%. It's now. 00:27:40
Down at 2222.5%. 00:27:45
Your grants. 00:27:49
At its peak like 3 years ago, primarily because of ARPA was at 21% but now is at 14.1%. 00:27:51
And sales tax covers about 6%. 00:27:59
Of your operating budget. 00:28:02
And so one of the comments that I've I made in the past is that. 00:28:04
Whenever you cut expenses to try to cover. 00:28:08
You know, try to shift dollars. 00:28:13
That, uh. 00:28:15
It's really only impacting. 00:28:17
Property tax. 00:28:19
20%. 00:28:20
It's it's $0.20 on the dollar. 00:28:21
And so when we look at reducing salaries or wages. 00:28:24
While we can say the total dollar amount, we could apply. 00:28:28
Really, when it comes down to it, a lot of your wages are covered because of charges for services. 00:28:31
Grants and sales tax and those other funding sources. 00:28:37
Supervisor Steger. 00:28:43
Thank you. Mr. Chairman. What is the current? 00:28:46
Interest rate on borrowing. 00:28:49
That was an estimate the other night, then was arranged from 2.4 to. 00:28:52
For roughly I. 00:28:58
Supervisor Hedrick. 00:29:04
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and also. 00:29:06
Administrator and. 00:29:09
Our finance director. One other thing I would like to add, I was had the the. 00:29:11
Opportunity to be at groundbreaking for Habitat for Humanity and Watertown. 00:29:16
They're going to build a. 00:29:21
12 duplexes, 6 duplexes, 12 units. 00:29:24
Bringing. 00:29:28
Bringing people into water town, families into Watertown, students into the schools. 00:29:29
And this was. 00:29:35
Partially possible because of the Community grant. 00:29:37
Granting that Dodge County did. There was a road that has to be put through and they needed that extra push over the top. 00:29:40
And. 00:29:48
So Dodge County helped make that happen. 00:29:49
As they have with a lot of other projects this year. 00:29:52
Thank you. 00:29:55
Supervisor. 00:29:57
Thank you. 00:29:59
I would just like to. 00:29:59
Go a little farther with. 00:30:02
Supervisor jurors comment with a. 00:30:03
The. 00:30:06
Pay issue here where they're reducing salaries. 00:30:07
I'd like to say that this is. 00:30:11
Clarity. 00:30:13
Is that? 00:30:14
This is. 00:30:15
Only for certain groups. 00:30:15
The ones that are longer term in the open range. 00:30:17
So it isn't. 00:30:20
All of the. 00:30:22
People. 00:30:23
Employees. Excuse me. 00:30:24
Getting the 2 1/2% step increase, is that correct? 00:30:26
That is correct. 00:30:29
Super Major Hochen. 00:30:33
Thank you. 00:30:34
I was at the. 00:30:36
The county convention. 00:30:38
I talked to several. 00:30:40
Counties. 00:30:41
Like about 8. 00:30:43
And they are not giving their employees more than two point something percent. 00:30:44
Under 3. 00:30:48
And I want us to remember we are not giving our. 00:30:49
We are giving our employees. 00:30:52
A race, They're all getting a raise. A cost of giving a raise. 00:30:54
Also. 00:30:58
When they you also have to remember that next year, whatever we give them in this step, it continues. So is that like you take it 00:31:00
away the next year, so. 00:31:04
We are adding to. 00:31:09
What we need to fund? 00:31:11
In future years. 00:31:12
So we have to. 00:31:14
We have to consider that. 00:31:15
And our employees are great and I do think we treat them very well. 00:31:17
We're picking up an extra half percent of their health care. 00:31:21
When they go to their doctor, we have put money in their Hsas. 00:31:25
Or. 00:31:29
Those accounts? 00:31:30
Pay for their deductible. 00:31:32
So we we pay. 00:31:33
Marched further to. 00:31:36
Deductible to have. 00:31:37
Insurance, then we pay when they go to the doctor, we pay that deductible. 00:31:39
So. 00:31:43
We are treating our employees. 00:31:44
Quite well. 00:31:46
Thank you. 00:31:47
OK, looks like we are. 00:31:49
Ready to vote? 00:31:51
And if you agree with the amendment to fund Highway P. 00:31:53
With as. 00:31:58
In in the. 00:32:00
Amended. 00:32:01
Paper. 00:32:03
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:32:04
Supervisor Freebault. 00:32:16
Yes. 00:32:18
All having voted it. 00:32:21
Fails 5 to 25. 00:32:23
OK. 00:32:27
We're back on the amendments in order, starting with #1. 00:32:30
Nope, that's now #2 no #2 OK. 00:32:33
So it's number one on the agenda #1 on the agenda now #2 which is. 00:32:37
That's. 00:32:42
County Trunk Highway P7. 00:32:45
.4 miles. 00:32:47
I'm not going to read the entire thing. 00:32:51
But that will be a motion by Krause and a second by Kiel, which we will enter. 00:32:54
OK, so those are entered. 00:33:18
Supervisor Krause, as the maker, would you like to speak? 00:33:21
There we go. Should be on. 00:33:28
I'm not going to read through the whole amendment, we've all had it for quite some time. 00:33:31
You see what roads that? 00:33:35
Myself and Karen are proposing to do and how many lane miles, the length of the project and where the where we anticipate the 00:33:36
money coming from. 00:33:39
And my Co sponsor this amendment because it's time to address our Rd. needs. 00:33:43
I believe we have come. 00:33:46
Have become complacent. They're not looking down the road. 00:33:47
To the future and impact of our highway infrastructure. 00:33:51
We have a goal to do 20 miles a year of road work. 00:33:54
If we do nothing and just do what is in the current budget, we are falling way behind. 00:33:56
I know borrowing money right now doesn't sit well with all of us. 00:34:01
We have other projects that communications and facilities that need to be addressed. 00:34:04
And the possibility of having. 00:34:08
The possibility of. 00:34:10
Having to borrow money for those projects is a reality down the road. 00:34:11
I realized that some of you would like to see a long range plan for Broward. 00:34:16
And I do too. 00:34:19
But I don't think pushing Rd. Brian off to get that done first is. 00:34:20
The reason I say that is I believe that I believe we all know that Road Browing will be in that plan. 00:34:24
If you don't think Rd. borrowing is necessary to maintain our roads at the goals we have said, I would like to hear your ideas. 00:34:30
We relied on ARPA money to take care of some of our Rd. needs in the past and unfortunately that is not an option now. 00:34:37
You all know that we can only love you so much a year. 00:34:43
That percentage is way less than what the the inflationary rate is. 00:34:46
I talked to one of my fellow supervisors in a neighboring county. 00:34:50
He said their cost of doing roads year after year increases between 12 to 14%. 00:34:53
I asked our former highway commissioner about our inflate what our inflationary rate was. 00:34:58
He told me off the cuff it was 8%. 00:35:03
A year. 00:35:06
We can certainly borrow money cheaper than 8%. 00:35:07
Per year to do our roads. 00:35:09
It's saving US money and keeps us on track to maintain our goal of 20 plus miles per year. 00:35:11
I also feel that this sends a message to our constituents in the highway department. They were committed to improve our highway 00:35:16
infrastructure and looking long term on the benefits of this investment. 00:35:21
In my short tenure on the Dodge County Board of four years and my long tenure on the Town of Kalamazoo Board of 29 years. 00:35:26
The majority of the complaints are maybe for a better term. Concerns is always about our roadways and public safety. 00:35:32
Because quote, that's what they pay taxes for. 00:35:38
The county highway DE bridge. 00:35:41
Project is a prime example. 00:35:43
That we addressed recently. 00:35:45
So I know that there will be people upset that we borrow money. 00:35:48
But there will also be people happy that we are borrowing and addressing our shortfall. 00:35:50
Shortfalls in our road infrastructure. 00:35:54
Another thing to consider is our transportation aid. 00:35:56
That is based on a three-year average. 00:35:59
If we start cutting back on how much we spend on roads, we'll get this lesson aid, and that is just not for one. 00:36:01
But it's several. 00:36:07
Borrowing for roads, buildings, et cetera is not an uncommon thing. 00:36:09
Many municipalities do it. 00:36:13
I have done it in my own town. 00:36:15
If done right, it is a good tool to have in your tool belt. 00:36:16
We have an opportunity today to do something great for Dodge County by supporting this amendment. 00:36:20
Something we're celebrating. 00:36:25
Committing to do 40 plus miles of Rd. in the next two years. 00:36:27
Think about that. 00:36:30
40 plus miles. 00:36:31
If we don't. 00:36:33
If we don't, we're kicking the can down the road again and we'll be having the same conversation again next year at this time. 00:36:34
Remember, 40 plus miles were the next two years. 00:36:40
Something that we all can be proud of. 00:36:42
Thank you. 00:36:44
Supervisor Cavazanjan. 00:36:47
Yes, thank you. 00:36:49
I appreciate this amendment very much. 00:36:50
Because it does address my concerns about roads and it also covers some of the future engineering. 00:36:53
And. 00:37:00
Bridge designs, however. 00:37:01
I would propose an amendment. 00:37:03
To this resolution. 00:37:06
To lower the. 00:37:08
Debt borrowing that's in here from 8 million to 9.5 million, from 9 five to 8, I believe yes to 8 from 9.5. 00:37:10
Do you have that in writing? 00:37:21
Yes. 00:37:23
Thank you. In addition, I wanted to take the. 00:37:24
1.5 million from the community development grants and put that towards roads and I have it. 00:37:27
Written down. 00:37:34
You perfect. 00:37:36
Thank you. 00:37:42
We'll get that typed in. 00:37:49
Is there a second for that? 00:37:51
And we got to got to get it in here first. 00:37:59
Get it typed in quick. 00:38:03
So it's actually going to be Amendment A to Amendment 2. 00:38:46
So we're going to do a. 00:38:51
Amendment 2 as. 00:39:09
Is the space dash dash? 00:39:13
Hit OK. 00:39:31
Do we have OK the the motion to amend was by Supervisor Cabazonjan. Do I have a second to that? 00:39:36
Yeah, yeah, the second by Supervisor Keel. 00:39:46
Nope, Klobuchar put it in. 00:39:49
Klobuchar got ahead of OK. 00:39:51
Second by Supervisor Klobuchar. 00:39:54
OK, discussion on the amendment. 00:39:58
The amendment to the amendment. 00:40:01
Anybody want to speak to the? 00:40:04
Amendment. Umm. 00:40:06
Supervisor clock on. 00:40:09
I think we're nearsighted on this. 00:40:11
Where you guys spent a decade trying to get an enterprise fund going? 00:40:13
And now, at first sight of trouble, you want to bleed it dry. 00:40:18
That doesn't make any sense to me. If we're not planning for the future, what the hell are we doing here? 00:40:21
You're you're right now you're planning for the future, but you're planning on a near sight of the future, something short term 00:40:26
that's going to. 00:40:28
Net you what, a couple miles Rd. 00:40:31
You got to think about why we put that fund in place in the first place. 00:40:34
You got a plan for the future. You. 00:40:38
People were just talking about. 00:40:40
Watertown talking about bringing Is this to the. 00:40:42
It is because. 00:40:46
Because if you're gonna bleed. 00:40:48
$2,000,000 out of. 00:40:50
Out of that fund, I'm not going to ever vote for anything that takes money out of that fund. It'd be like saying let's take money 00:40:52
out of Clearview, let's take money out of. 00:40:55
You know, some other. 00:40:59
Enterprise Air Group. 00:41:00
It doesn't make sense to me so. 00:41:02
I'm not going to vote for anything that has anything to do with taking money out of that enterprise fund you guys spent. 00:41:04
Years trying to get money in there. You finally got money in there, now you're going to take it out. 00:41:09
I I'm against it so. 00:41:13
Thank you. 00:41:14
Supervisor Guckenberger. 00:41:16
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:41:19
I don't understand the wisdom of. 00:41:21
Borrowing money. 00:41:23
Just so we can put it into a community Development Fund and then give it away, as I've said before. 00:41:24
Good roads are also good economic development. If we don't have good roads, we're not going to have people wanting to come here 00:41:31
and build and build homes and live here. 00:41:36
The the roads are as much a priority as anything. 00:41:42
We don't do priority budgeting here. That's that's what I'm seeing here today. 00:41:45
We didn't put the roads as the top of the list. We're putting them here at the bottom. Matter of fact, they're beyond the bottom. 00:41:51
Because we got board members sitting here at the budget meeting trying to put money back into the budget. 00:41:57
In order to cover for our roads, that's what we're doing here today. There's. 00:42:03
4 amendments that are trying to address the road problem. 00:42:07
You know the administrator didn't bring the plan forward. 00:42:10
No, we. 00:42:14
We put the roads at the very bottom, we took everything else and we covered that and now what you see here is some. 00:42:15
Board members. 00:42:23
Trying to fix that problem. 00:42:24
The roads are priority for us. This is the way to fund it. Any way I look at it is if we're going to be borrowing money. 00:42:26
And then just give. 00:42:34
Now would be. 00:42:36
Still 500,000 dollars 541,000 as I would see it in the budget. 00:42:39
For community development, she didn't take the whole thing out. 00:42:44
What she's proposing to take. 00:42:47
3/4 of it out. 00:42:48
And put it into the roads. 00:42:50
Which everyone in this room seems to think like roads are a priority. 00:42:52
Until it comes time to pay for them. 00:42:55
Supervisor Conway. 00:43:00
Thank you, Mr. Chair, in regards to the amendment. 00:43:02
First off. 00:43:05
I agree with my. 00:43:06
Colleague that. 00:43:07
Community development is a very important part. 00:43:09
Of our county. 00:43:13
We are. 00:43:15
And county that is aging. 00:43:16
And we? 00:43:18
Really need to start to bring people into the county. 00:43:20
I also have an issue that. 00:43:25
We seem to be going back and forth between. 00:43:28
What is considered a capital budget? 00:43:31
Which is long term. 00:43:33
And what is operational? 00:43:35
The Community development is part of of an operational budget. 00:43:38
I understand that they all are in the same pie, but there's a lot of ingredients to fill that. 00:43:42
To make that pie. 00:43:46
And the two of them, I learned a long time ago, really. 00:43:48
And maybe I'm wrong. 00:43:52
But really should not be. 00:43:54
Crossed over. 00:43:57
1 is a long term. 00:43:58
One are things we can see, touch and feel for the next 10/15/20 years. 00:44:00
And one is just operations. And if we really truly have a problem with operations, we should address. 00:44:04
The operations budget. 00:44:11
And then again what is required by? 00:44:13
State statute and what is not. 00:44:16
Thank you, Sir. 00:44:18
Supervisor. 00:44:21
With regard to borrowing money, you know it was said that borrowing money is a reality down the road. 00:44:23
And it was. 00:44:28
Said that the road cost is 1415%. 00:44:29
And that the cost of borrowing is 4%. 00:44:33
So why on earth is that down the road? 00:44:37
It's not down the road. We should do this immediately. 00:44:40
And that is good long. 00:44:44
Infrastructure planning. 00:44:47
And I agree with the prior statements that borrowing and combining. 00:44:49
Operations. 00:44:55
And long term infrastructure. 00:44:56
And economic development and just. 00:44:59
Pretending they're all equal. 00:45:01
Doesn't make sense. 00:45:04
Also. 00:45:06
I don't know. 00:45:07
I admit where County P or these other roads, I don't know where they actually fit within the highway department budget, but it's 00:45:09
like we're deciding instead of the highway committee, which has a committee and has. 00:45:14
You know, a department head, we're deciding we're going to put this. 00:45:20
Road first. 00:45:23
And like, that's not. 00:45:25
Really. 00:45:27
Our job, right? That isn't even part of our job. 00:45:27
And so we can do this. 00:45:31
If long term. 00:45:34
If we do it thoughtfully. 00:45:35
And this last minute grabbing from Peter to pay Paul. 00:45:37
Is uh. 00:45:41
Almost. 00:45:42
Like borrowing as well, and it's. 00:45:44
In that it's thoughtless borrowing, it's impromptu borrowing. 00:45:46
Right. 00:45:50
Not the way. 00:45:51
To move forward and have people 20 years down the road go man, that board got it right. 00:45:53
They actually got this right. 00:45:59
People drive to our community. Last thing on supervisor Guggen Parker. 00:46:01
No one. 00:46:05
Comes and says wow this is a smooth Rd. I want to live here. People come here and they need housing. 00:46:06
And then there isn't enough housing and that economic fund. 00:46:12
Puts housing projects over the edge. If they can't get housing, they don't come here if they don't accept the jobs. 00:46:16
And that. 00:46:23
Affects the growth. 00:46:24
So robbing Peter to pay Paul means we still don't have enough roads down the road and we still end up with a housing shortage. 00:46:26
Immediately, it's just doesn't make sense. 00:46:32
Supervisor Steger. 00:46:36
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:46:39
What I'm going to say I want. 00:46:40
The supervisors of. 00:46:42
Stick that in their mind. 00:46:43
25 year plan. 00:46:45
Is way too long for roads. I said this. 00:46:48
How many times? 00:46:52
That you rebuild the road now? You telling me that 25 years from now? 00:46:53
That road is gonna. 00:46:58
Need replacing. I'm telling you're wrong. It's going to be. 00:47:00
15 to 20 years, if that much. 00:47:04
The way the salt goes on and the weather with the frost and all that, roads do not last 25 years. 00:47:07
Thank you. 00:47:15
Supervisor Keel. 00:47:17
Thank you. 00:47:21
I was. 00:47:24
The economic development. 00:47:25
Money is sales tax funded. 00:47:27
I'm not. 00:47:32
I think we should have some money. 00:47:33
In the economic development, I'm not against moving some of this, but. 00:47:35
Maybe not to roads because. 00:47:41
And replacing the debt. 00:47:46
Because we have. 00:47:48
Used everything. 00:47:50
In the. 00:47:52
Amendment. 00:47:53
The original amendment. 00:47:54
Supervisor Carlson and I. 00:47:58
Did hear everyone's? 00:48:00
Comments, many comments that. 00:48:03
Fund balance needs to be used and all that was taken into effect, but you know. 00:48:05
At this point we have. 00:48:10
Pillaged both the sales tax. 00:48:12
That has. 00:48:16
That is available. 00:48:18
And we have taken general fund to the point that. 00:48:19
We're at the top. 00:48:25
Yes. 00:48:26
In 2025 we may generate. 00:48:27
Some surplus fund balance? It's unknown at this time. I do believe it's projected that there is a surplus. 00:48:30
Through this budget process for 26. 00:48:39
But. 00:48:42
I we have. 00:48:44
Emergencies. 00:48:46
All during the year. 00:48:48
Like we just. 00:48:50
Did. 00:48:51
Bridge. 00:48:52
I believe was a general fund appropriation. 00:48:54
So I'm just saying we've. 00:48:58
Taken a lot and we. 00:49:00
Have. 00:49:01
I'd rather maybe see that available for an emergency fund. 00:49:03
Expense that comes up. 00:49:08
Thank you. 00:49:10
Supervisor Guckenburger. 00:49:12
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:49:16
Just want to provide a little. 00:49:17
Clarification on a couple of things. 00:49:19
This. 00:49:22
These amendments are not trying to micromanage or. 00:49:23
You know, as we've been accused here of not. 00:49:30
Allowing the. 00:49:32
Committee to do their recommendation or any of that stuff. 00:49:34
The road projects that were actually being popped off of the comprehensive plan. 00:49:37
Which was already approved by everybody in this room. 00:49:42
So it's not like we're just dreaming things up and saying, oh, I want to do highway in or I want to do highway P that there are 00:49:45
already on a list. 00:49:49
To be completed. 00:49:53
The very least that this whole body is already approved. 00:49:55
So take that whole argument and throw it aside. 00:49:58
OK, the other thing is I find it interesting that the. 00:50:01
The current community service projects. 00:50:04
Include roads. 00:50:08
Roads. Not for the town, or, excuse me, not for the county. 00:50:09
But roads for Waupun, roads for Watertown? 00:50:12
Roads for Fox Lake. 00:50:16
Roads for Beaver Dam. 00:50:18
These are the projects we're helping to complete. 00:50:20
Sure. 00:50:22
The roads support the housing. 00:50:23
But the roads that we have in our county are just as important. 00:50:25
To economic development. 00:50:28
As they are to the towns and the communities. 00:50:30
If if you were to say that this, this. 00:50:33
Grant of. 00:50:35
$500,000 that we're leaving in the budget is going to go and actually build homes. 00:50:36
That's one thing. 00:50:41
OK. But what we're supporting right now? 00:50:42
Are the roads. 00:50:45
In those communities. 00:50:46
In order for them. 00:50:48
To develop lots. 00:50:50
To sell for housing. 00:50:52
We're not building houses with these dollars in our community service fund, not at present. Matter of fact, some of the money 00:50:53
went. 00:50:56
To parks. 00:51:00
And I'm not objecting to any of that because I was involved in all of that. 00:51:01
And as an exact a member of the executive committee. 00:51:05
I was also involved. 00:51:08
But what I see is the need. The need is for Dodge County. 00:51:10
To to do the best it can for our roads and. 00:51:14
That's the priority that I see today. 00:51:18
Put it into the roads, put it into our highways. 00:51:20
And not. 00:51:23
Borrow $2,000,000. 00:51:24
So we can give it to. 00:51:26
The other communities. 00:51:28
Thank you. 00:51:30
OK, we are ready to vote on the. 00:51:32
Amendment to a. 00:51:35
If you agree to take funds from. 00:51:37
Community development of 1.5 and shift to highway. 00:51:41
Please vote yes if you do not. 00:51:44
Please vote no. 00:51:46
Supervisor Free Vault. 00:52:03
Yes. 00:52:06
All having voted, it fails 9 to 21. 00:52:09
So now we are back to amendment number. 00:52:13
Two as originally stated. 00:52:16
Correct. And we've already had a lot of discussion about that. Is there any other any more discussion? 00:52:20
And close. 00:52:29
All right. 00:52:33
OK. 00:52:39
All of you that are in. 00:52:41
Are wanting to go to the original amendment. 00:52:42
Supervisor Durr. 00:52:46
Are you? 00:52:48
I need to speak on the. 00:52:49
OK, Supervisor Clocko. 00:52:54
These are all back from before. 00:52:57
And you want to speak again on. 00:53:00
Original amendment. 00:53:02
Supervisor Van Design. 00:53:06
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:53:10
Just. 00:53:13
Question on the 44.2 lane miles. 00:53:14
In the budget right now, I think we have 8.1. 00:53:19
That are already it. 00:53:22
Allocated for roads. 00:53:24
So the ones that are suggested here. 00:53:26
Would add. 00:53:30
23.1 miles, so we'd actually be doing 31.2 miles this year. 00:53:31
As I see it. 00:53:37
Yes, and. 00:53:38
Do they know what the other 21.1 miles are that they're? 00:53:40
Proposing for these projects or is that just an estimate? 00:53:44
The the. 00:53:48
Well, I could let Supervisor Krause but it. 00:53:50
Basically, it funds all of. 00:53:52
Roads in the CIP for this year. 00:53:55
And puts 12. 00:53:58
$6 million for 12 Mile Elsa Rd. Into. 00:54:00
The 27 budget. 00:54:03
Actually, there there's. 00:54:06
21.1 miles difference if you add up the miles that they have listed in there. 00:54:08
It comes to 44.2 I believe. 00:54:14
For the two years. 00:54:18
Yeah, I just was wondering what? 00:54:19
The ones that are listed there, unless my math is wrong, the ones they have listed is. 00:54:21
Is. 00:54:25
23.1. 00:54:27
Saw that 44.2 minus that. 00:54:28
Gives you 21.1. 00:54:32
So I just was wondering if they had. 00:54:35
An idea of what the all the other miles were for. 00:54:37
All of it. Go ahead, super razor crows. 00:54:42
Gotta get you well. The other miles would be just for future projects. For 2027 the highway department has a five year Rd. plan 00:54:45
that they try to fall as close as possible. 00:54:49
You know, it's a fluid plan just like anything else. Sometimes it varies on what we get for grant money and stuff like that, so. 00:54:53
It's there to get the funding out there, so it's readily available and we're not having this conversation again next year at this 00:54:59
time. 00:55:03
But I believe the. 00:55:07
There's 32. 00:55:09
Miles funded this year. 00:55:11
In this plan. 00:55:12
Neighbor all on the CIP and that leaves 12 miles for next year. 00:55:15
To be determined. 00:55:19
OK. 00:55:22
And besides this fact of. 00:55:29
12 miles for next year and we have a a 25 mile per year. 00:55:34
So then we're going to have to come up with 13, we have a 22 mile per year and this funds. 00:55:39
44 miles in 26. 00:55:44
And 27 together. 00:55:46
OK. Thank you. 00:55:51
Supervisor Conway, were you on? 00:55:55
Supervisor Conway, are you on this? 00:55:59
Original amendment. 00:56:01
Supervisor Kane. 00:56:04
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, just for the benefit of our newer. 00:56:06
Members and just to refresh the memory of. 00:56:10
Of those of us that were on the board. 00:56:13
The highway committee back in 2020. 00:56:15
Consulted with a company called Community Perceptions that does surveys. 00:56:18
For communities and schools to determine. 00:56:23
What? 00:56:26
Voters would accept as far as. 00:56:27
For bonding and for different things. 00:56:29
Of of that. 00:56:32
There were 672 respondents to that survey. 00:56:33
Of which 57.8% of the respondents said they would. 00:56:37
Be willing to. 00:56:42
Bond for at least 12. 00:56:43
$1,000,000 of roads. 00:56:45
40.2% said they would do 18. 00:56:47
Million. 00:56:49
So this is considered statistically significant. 00:56:51
IE if a referendum was to be taken. 00:56:54
With those same questions. 00:56:57
The likelihood would be. 00:56:59
That they that it would pass. 00:57:01
Another point, Dodge County is one of two counties in the state without a debt service levy. So apparently 70 other counties in 00:57:03
the state think it's an OK idea. 00:57:08
Our per capita debt is $81. 00:57:12
And the state average is $539 of debt per capita. So I see no reason that we don't should not. 00:57:16
Move forward with this. 00:57:23
This amendment and. 00:57:24
Work to getting our roads fixed and. 00:57:26
Get on a on a decent. 00:57:28
Trajectory for future projects and. 00:57:30
Support this please. 00:57:33
Supervisor Johnson. 00:57:38
Yes, I will be speaking against this amendment. I think there are good things in it, but I think the timing's off. It's missing 00:57:41
some key critical elements. 00:57:44
And I think there's an alternative that can meet all the goals of it. 00:57:48
I think this amendment is good in the fact that it does meet the funding addressing their roles and we absolutely I agree with 00:57:52
that and going over 20 miles a year, it recognizes the need that tax levy will be needed for long term sustainable strategy to 00:57:57
fund roads. That's I think that's I do agree with that. 00:58:02
And invested the excess fund balance, which we do need. We're not a business. We're the government and that's the people's money 00:58:08
and it should be applied to rolls. I agree with that. I agree with shifting the debt payments to use from the sales tax to the 00:58:12
levy without adding debt. 00:58:16
Those are all very good things. However, I think the timing is off. 00:58:21
It's not the right time to issue bond debt right now. 00:58:24
But it will be soon. 00:58:27
The missing elements this This plan does not include a sustainable debt repayment plan. 00:58:29
Before needing additional dollars beyond the two years. 00:58:34
Constituents clearly are not interested in stacking debt. 00:58:38
So what I'm saying is, is that year 3? 00:58:41
If this is a 10 year bond in year 3, we're going to have to borrow again. 00:58:43
I don't think that's a great plan or year five. I'm looking at 10 years out in 10 years I want to do. 00:58:48
200. 00:58:53
200 miles of roads or 20 years. 00:58:54
400 miles. 00:58:57
County Board has not yet determined its long term strategy in my view. I have not discussed it with anybody. We have not. We've 00:58:59
started discussions at at at executive, but we have not gone through. 00:59:04
Most counties have a. 00:59:08
Plan to for sustainable Rd. funding that's included in their budget. The this county board to my knowledge has not determined its 00:59:09
long term strategy to fund yearly goal. 00:59:14
Of 22 miles, it says this goal is 22 miles. 00:59:19
But it doesn't say how to do it. 00:59:22
For example, Price County. 00:59:24
They do a wheel tax. 00:59:25
And then they borrow short term and then they pay it off and then they do it again. So they just keep, keep. So every year in the 00:59:27
budget it's indexed and it's sustainable. 00:59:31
Otherwise, they're going to be right back here in two years or three years. Future boards will be here. 00:59:35
We have a We are missing information on the upcoming big projects, the physical facilities. These are these are the. 00:59:40
Biggest things that this county's ever faced. 00:59:45
Far as dollars go, the most we've ever borrowed before is 44 million. Here we're looking at building, maybe a new building, a huge 00:59:49
repair, we don't know. We haven't got the study back. We're looking at spending 40, but over $40 million for our radios. 00:59:54
These are huge, huge things. 01:00:00
In the context of the 20. 01:00:02
10/20/30 year. 01:00:05
What's our long term debt strategy? We haven't really talked about it about layering our debt. We still owe some money until 2031. 01:00:06
Our payments are still pretty big right now in my judgment. 01:00:11
How are we going to layer that debt? 01:00:16
How is it going to fit? What are we going to fit the radio in? How we going to fit the building in? The roads are a small part and 01:00:19
that needs to be handled every single year. It has to be a 10 year plan, a 20 year plan, not doing a plan. This. I'm glad they're 01:00:24
doing something, but then in three years from now being back to this. 01:00:29
That's not a plan. 01:00:35
We are called by our legislature to plan to. 01:00:36
Strategically to get. 01:00:40
Like I said. 01:00:42
200 miles of roads in 10 years, not just one short term thing. 01:00:43
I believe the county board needs time to fill the missing, to find these missing and get these missing elements and that will 01:00:48
bring clarity to all of us to make sure that the county board gets it right, not only for next year. 01:00:53
But for the for the many years ahead. 01:01:00
And I believe there is an amendment that will address this. 01:01:01
Thank you. 01:01:04
Supervisor Houchin. 01:01:06
Thank you. I agree with supervisor. 01:01:07
Johnson. 01:01:10
I he he hit it on the. 01:01:12
And now I have a couple questions about this. 01:01:14
Are we borrowing the second year now? Is that the plan? 01:01:17
Because we don't know what interest. 01:01:21
Rates, if they're going up or they're going down, so how do you address that? 01:01:23
I'd like to know how this differs from what the administration was talking about when I watched the exact. 01:01:28
Committee, you said it wasn't the same, so I'd like to know what that. 01:01:33
And just because we. 01:01:37
Can borrow doesn't mean we should borrow. 01:01:39
I think part of our problem is we get our budget too late. 01:01:44
What I was at? 01:01:47
Conference. Some of those people have already voted on their budget for next year. 01:01:48
I don't know why we wait so late. 01:01:53
When we know that the deadline to put it in is like the 15th or something, it's like it. 01:01:55
Three days we have to have this budget or we get fine. 01:01:59
Why do we wait so late? 01:02:03
And I blame that on. 01:02:05
And the planning on? 01:02:06
The powers to be. This needs to be done. 01:02:07
We need to know. 01:02:10
I mean, we didn't even get the budget. 01:02:12
You know till. 01:02:14
Talked over. 01:02:15
Let's get this budget out earlier and and have some of these talks that. 01:02:16
That Mister Johnson's talking about. 01:02:20
I agree with that So. 01:02:22
That's all. Thanks. 01:02:24
Supervisor. 01:02:26
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:02:28
You know, we as a county board did. 01:02:31
Approved this resolution that. 01:02:33
22 miles has to be. 01:02:35
Donna each year just to stay solvent from where we're at. 01:02:36
When we passed, when we talked about this at committee and we. 01:02:40
Passed it to come to. 01:02:43
The board for approval. 01:02:44
After we agreed that we need to do this 22 miles, you know, at that time, we told. 01:02:46
The county administrator. 01:02:51
That we need to come up with long term plan. This is already a year ago. 01:02:53
That we need to come up with, talk to our financial experts to come up with a. 01:02:56
A debt service levy? If so, be it. 01:02:59
That we can do a long term plan. 01:03:02
And as last month, we still don't have the plan. 01:03:04
You know it's not the highway committees job. 01:03:06
Because you know. 01:03:09
Been told we're only a policy making body now. 01:03:11
After 40 years of doing it a certain way, now it's been changed. I don't know if you guys know that. 01:03:14
However. 01:03:20
You know, as of as of this last month, we still don't have a long term plan and it's not the committees job to. 01:03:21
Come up with financing. 01:03:27
For the roads, that's finance job or. 01:03:28
The city. 01:03:31
Are not city the county's finance department to come up with long term plan and that comes at. 01:03:32
The expanse of talking to our experts, which is Ailers or other financial institutions that's come up with a plan. 01:03:37
We haven't did this. 01:03:43
And and who's who's? 01:03:45
We could probably look at a lot of people to blame. We could blame ourself, you know? 01:03:47
I'm frustrated. 01:03:53
This is one of the reasons not running. 01:03:54
Again. 01:03:56
Because I've come up with four or five different. 01:03:57
Ways that highway to come up with savings. 01:03:59
To do a long term plan. 01:04:02
Because. 01:04:04
Our roads aren't last as long as they are because. 01:04:05
They're using it a. 01:04:07
Of insufficient product. 01:04:08
I mean over the course of the. 01:04:11
How many years now? 01:04:12
Asphalt companies have figured out a way to. 01:04:13
Make the. 01:04:16
Pavement lasts only certain long and then we have to redo them. 01:04:17
I mean, this is all by design. 01:04:20
But you know, I'm frustrated and I respect all of my colleagues here tonight. 01:04:22
That. 01:04:27
Have you know you all have good ideas, right? 01:04:29
But you know, we need to come up long term plan and we just we, we have failed. 01:04:32
We have failed the taxpayers of Dodge County. 01:04:36
Thank you. 01:04:39
Supervisor clock on. 01:04:42
Let me just do a hypothetical here once. 01:04:44
Because that sounds like whatever I'm hearing from everybody and I'm looking at all the amendments and. 01:04:47
You know. 01:04:51
There's another option, and the option is do nothing. 01:04:52
Which would put us back to what we're currently doing. 01:04:55
Are 22 miles of roads a year? 01:04:58
But. 01:05:00
If we switched. 01:05:01
The roads that we're doing. 01:05:02
And I'm just hypothetically thinking here. 01:05:04
If you did all of our D's and all of our F roads. 01:05:06
In the in the next two years, that would leave us with seas. 01:05:09
An average Rd. Strata entire county. 01:05:14
If we. 01:05:16
Couldn't do all of the DS and the FS in the county then borrow to finish that. But then after they were done you would have a 01:05:17
moratorium on spending money for probably another year or two until our seas have to turn into D's and have to be replaced. 01:05:23
There's other ways to think about this other than spending our way out of it. 01:05:30
By borrowing. 01:05:34
And I mean, I just came up with that off the cuff and I don't know if that's even actual or factual or anything, but. 01:05:36
It seems to me like if we have roads that were. 01:05:43
Doing that or sees. 01:05:45
And we still have DS and FS out there. We should get those taken care of first. 01:05:48
Thank you. 01:05:52
Supervisor. 01:05:54
I I think it's. 01:05:59
I'm hoping we just stop talk about. 01:06:00
Who's to blame? 01:06:02
And start working on moving forward and. 01:06:03
Problem solving. 01:06:05
And and one of the reasons I think it's been really hard. 01:06:07
To propose. 01:06:10
Long term financial debt structure planning is because at every meeting. 01:06:12
Several people like, well, we shouldn't borrow. 01:06:17
We shouldn't borrow, right? So it's really hard. 01:06:19
To actually. 01:06:22
Come up with a really good long term plan, which by the way should be a rotating 5 year plan, right? 01:06:23
I mean, a 20 year plan would. 01:06:29
Like be a problem. 01:06:31
If there's a recession in year 8. 01:06:33
But regardless, even doing that. 01:06:36
We need to be all on board as. 01:06:40
As a board that this is a long term plan that we're going to do this and we're going to figure out how much we want to borrow and 01:06:42
how many years and what the rotating thing is. 01:06:46
And I think. 01:06:51
I could be wrong, but I think there's a little bit. 01:06:52
Of nervousness when. 01:06:55
So many of us are like, well, I'm not gonna borrow. I don't think we should borrow. Like look in our wallet and we. 01:06:56
We buy our house. 01:07:00
You know, and I say you don't buy your house in cash. 01:07:02
You. 01:07:04
Because it's a big piece of infrastructure for your revenue, right? 01:07:05
So. 01:07:09
I do feel like if we could. 01:07:11
The majority of us get on board the. 01:07:12
This is the way 70 other counties fund long term projects and that we as a county have an enormous number of roads. We're a big 01:07:15
county and we have a very low tax base. 01:07:22
We don't have. 01:07:28
Oconomowoc or Milwaukee or the suburbs. We we have Dodge County residents and it's. 01:07:30
We're not a super high income county. 01:07:35
So that's another reason. 01:07:38
Compared to all other counties, we should be financing it, right? Our tax base can't bear this burden. 01:07:40
So I'm going to vote against the amendments and I'm strongly going to be in favor of whatever long term planning the county and 01:07:46
along with the administrator. 01:07:50
Try to do to come up with a good plan. 01:07:55
That. 01:07:57
That finances as many roads as people feel we can sufficiently finance. 01:07:58
But robbing Peter to pay? 01:08:03
All that's what these amendments are doing, and I'm not going to vote for them. 01:08:05
Supervisor Steiger. 01:08:10
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I am for this amendment just. 01:08:11
Because it would buy us two years worth of. 01:08:16
Roads at 22.1 miles per year. 01:08:19
And also give us two years. 01:08:23
To set up a long term. 01:08:26
Plan if we. 01:08:28
Don't vote this in now. 01:08:30
What is our? 01:08:31
Plan. 01:08:33
Thank you. 01:08:34
Supervisor Krause. 01:08:36
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just. 01:08:38
You know, I, I respect everyone's opinions and. 01:08:39
And everything else. But we got to do something. We kick it down the road another year. 01:08:43
And then it goes up again another 8. 01:08:47
10/12/14 percent, whatever that number is, and we're sitting in the same spot. 01:08:49
We know all of us sitting here know it's coming down the road eventually. 01:08:55
And there's going to be more borrowing coming for roads. There's more borrowing that we might probably get, like I said earlier, 01:09:00
going to need to do with the with the. 01:09:03
With the buildings and our radios and. 01:09:06
All this, but we got to start somewhere. We just can't sit here and. 01:09:08
Not do nothing and hope next year is going to bring. 01:09:12
Better we're killing ourselves. Sometimes I think we're looking. 01:09:15
Too much in the short term to try to save a penny today, but it's costing U.S. dollars down the road. 01:09:19
So I please encourage you just to. 01:09:25
You know, to pass this amendment and let's get something started that we can hang our hat on and say we actually did some good 01:09:27
today. 01:09:30
Thank you. 01:09:34
Supervisor Keel. 01:09:36
Thank you. 01:09:38
I wanted to add. 01:09:40
For I think it was Supervisor Van de Sandy. 01:09:43
When you talked about the total miles that were being done, remember that there will be another. 01:09:47
2027 Budget. 01:09:52
Adoption with the. 01:09:54
Grants and transportation aids and everything that will. 01:09:56
And sales tax like we? 01:10:01
Have done this year. 01:10:03
To fill to that 44.2 it's saying that. 01:10:05
We would be borrowing $6 million. 01:10:09
For supplementing. 01:10:13
Those. 01:10:15
Normal. 01:10:16
Funding sources. 01:10:17
For 2027. 01:10:19
And I wanted to add that I. 01:10:22
Totally agree that we need. 01:10:24
As supervisor Johnson talked about the long range planning, the layering of. 01:10:27
Debt, but this. 01:10:32
And and with our other needs. 01:10:35
That's the. 01:10:37
Big thing that is here is. 01:10:38
What we see on the horizon. 01:10:41
And how? 01:10:43
We are going to be able to. 01:10:44
Fund those. 01:10:46
Projects. 01:10:47
We need something though. 01:10:50
More than 9 miles. 01:10:52
Or so that's in the current budget and I. 01:10:54
Do not feel adopting. 01:10:58
The budget. 01:11:00
As it is without more roads. 01:11:01
Is also irresponsible for us. 01:11:04
As a board. 01:11:07
And one other thing that when you compare us with other counties. 01:11:09
I know I've heard this for years. 01:11:13
That. 01:11:15
Dodge County has more. 01:11:16
County Lane Miles. 01:11:18
Than any other county in the state. 01:11:21
And we're not the largest by size and we're not the largest. 01:11:24
By population, so it. 01:11:28
Impacts. 01:11:30
Our levy requirements. 01:11:32
Per capita. 01:11:35
So. 01:11:36
Thank you. 01:11:37
I'm going to take such supervisor frivolous on the phone. 01:11:39
I am against this amendment. 01:11:44
For the very reasons that. 01:11:47
Supervisor Johnson mentioned. 01:11:50
I think he was really well spoken on that. 01:11:52
We, I feel like we're blindfolded and we're in the dark and we're just trying to. 01:11:55
Grasp a quick solution to solve a long term problem and we're going to head down a path without a without a plan. 01:12:00
And it's going to be a very dangerous one. 01:12:07
And so that's why I'm against this amendment. 01:12:09
And I hope that you will join myself in. 01:12:12
Supervisor Johnson and voting against it. 01:12:16
Supervisor Grukenberger, one more time, thank. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it. 01:12:20
Although it's a long time ago that Mister Johnson gave his comments, I I feel. 01:12:26
I agree with many of what he stated. 01:12:31
Somehow or another, it seems like we want to create some sort of borrowing policy. 01:12:34
Through an amendment process to our budget. 01:12:39
Because that's ultimately what we're doing here. 01:12:41
You know, we don't have a borrowing plan in front of us, but we're going to borrow money. 01:12:44
We don't really have much of the. 01:12:48
Plans in place like Mr. Johnson referenced. 01:12:51
I, I believe, like Mr. Johnson. 01:12:55
Stated that there is another amendment here that might fit better. 01:12:58
With our current needs. 01:13:02
And it would allow us the opportunity to create a long term plan for borrowing. 01:13:04
As opposed to just a snapshot here today. 01:13:08
Let's go and borrow $9 million and then plug a hole. 01:13:11
Perhaps we we need a better plan. 01:13:15
And I believe there's a better plan available to us here. 01:13:18
Thank you. 01:13:21
Supervisor Hedrick. 01:13:23
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:13:24
And and everyone for this. 01:13:26
Thoughtful discussion. This is great. A couple of things come to mind. We did have ailers here. 01:13:28
At the county board meeting presenting us. 01:13:35
Ideas of what a long term? 01:13:37
Planning. 01:13:39
Strategy could look like. 01:13:40
I appreciated that as well as. 01:13:41
Thinking about the fact that we do now have a finance director. 01:13:45
Who is along with our relatively new. 01:13:48
County administrator, who are. 01:13:52
Proposing to us. 01:13:54
New ways of looking at. 01:13:55
Long term budgeting. 01:13:58
It's wonderful to have a finance director in place now. 01:13:59
It, if I'm remembering right, at the executive committee meeting. 01:14:05
We were given the information that. 01:14:10
Borrowing would be about would cost on a $300,000 house. 01:14:17
Would cost about $25 a year. 01:14:21
Is that am I remembering that right? 01:14:24
Yeah, I think it's about $27.00 a year for. 01:14:26
9.5. 01:14:30
Ballpark. 01:14:32
For improving our roads and and. 01:14:35
Getting a start. 01:14:38
Getting a start with all of this and that includes keeping the $2,000,000. 01:14:40
Community Development Fund. 01:14:45
And I I just. 01:14:49
Want to reiterate the cost of. 01:14:51
Pushing plans off? 01:14:53
Roads get more expensive every year. 01:14:56
Thank you. 01:14:58
I will be voting for this obviously. Thank you. 01:14:59
Supervisor. 01:15:02
I would like to motion to call the question. I think we've all. 01:15:03
Figured out what we feel on this and I think we should vote on it. 01:15:06
That's a priority motion to to. 01:15:14
We have one more person in the in the queue. 01:15:22
If I now call the question, yeah, if if the I'm just asking if the board. 01:15:27
Agrees to. 01:15:32
Rather than go through the whole vote to call the question. 01:15:34
If the board would agreed with Mr. 01:15:37
We're working on entering it and then we'll get the second when we're ready. 01:15:41
Take that out just. 01:15:50
Do we have a second? 01:16:00
Bell. 01:16:04
Gordon, Honey. Oh. 01:16:10
Molly put it in. 01:16:13
So then go to vote. 01:16:16
Right away. 01:16:18
OK, if you agree to stop debate and. 01:16:19
Move on the question. Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:16:24
This is just for the call. 01:16:29
Pardon, just the call You are just voting on call to question and end debate. 01:16:30
Right. 01:16:36
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:16:45
Yes. 01:16:48
All having voted, that passes 24 to 6. 01:16:51
OK. 01:16:55
And then, Yep. 01:17:07
And then go to vote right away. 01:17:10
OK, we are on. 01:17:13
The amendment. 01:17:15
#2. 01:17:16
If you agree with the amendment as proposed by Supervisors Krause and Keel. 01:17:18
Yeah, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:17:24
Clock out in Conway. 01:17:47
Supervisor. 01:17:57
No. 01:18:00
No. 01:18:02
All having voted it's. 01:18:05
Ties 15 to 15. 01:18:07
Which means it fails. 01:18:09
Yep. 01:18:12
You can hit next. 01:18:15
So now this one. 01:18:17
We're going to update to the amendment number three. Click. 01:18:18
And then hit OK. 01:18:25
OK, we are now on on the agenda. It says amendment. 01:18:37
2, which is actually Amendment 3. 01:18:42
And that is the. 01:18:45
County Trunk Highway P 7.4 miles. 01:18:49
You guys have it in front of you? Submitted. The motion is by supervisor Beal. 01:18:54
And the there's a second. There's a second by Supervisor Gutenberger. 01:19:00
Supervisor Bill, would you like to speak to this? 01:19:06
I think this amendment. 01:19:11
For a compromise. 01:19:13
Of all our supervisors. 01:19:15
This will allow us. 01:19:17
One year. 01:19:19
Finance forecast. 01:19:20
And set up. 01:19:23
A plan and be strategic about how we borrow. 01:19:25
And what we borrow for. 01:19:29
We need to plan. 01:19:31
And not just react at budget time. 01:19:33
It seems that. 01:19:36
This becomes a big issue. 01:19:38
In the month of November. 01:19:40
And all through the. 01:19:43
Year we we don't talk about any of this we. 01:19:44
Need to. 01:19:49
Think how we're going to do this knowing like Supervisor Johnson pointed out. 01:19:52
We're going to have other big expenses before us. 01:19:57
In another year, two years. 01:20:00
By adopting this amendment, this allows us at one year. 01:20:05
And still addresses our Rd. needs. 01:20:10
And allow some money to go into the community development. 01:20:13
Grant, which is so important to communities. 01:20:17
To get their projects off the ground. 01:20:21
So as. 01:20:24
Former supervisor used to say. 01:20:27
At the end of the day. 01:20:31
We all know that roads are important to us. 01:20:33
But this allows us to get it done. 01:20:36
In a manner that also allows us to plan. 01:20:39
And this will put the the. 01:20:43
Onus not only on our finance department and county. 01:20:45
Administrator, but also on all of us as supervisors. 01:20:49
To step up and move forward. 01:20:53
What the strategic plan? 01:20:55
That sets us up for future needs. 01:20:58
Thank you. 01:21:00
Supervisor Der. 01:21:03
Oh, sorry. 01:21:08
I'm looking at this and it does. 01:21:09
Talk about 7.4 miles and it has 4,385,000. 01:21:11
I do understand the concern and the and the need for compromise and and yet. 01:21:17
I have no idea where that 4 million is coming from. 01:21:22
And I still. 01:21:24
I don't. 01:21:26
Understand. 01:21:27
And maybe I haven't read through enough, but I don't understand. 01:21:28
Why we can't plan? 01:21:32
For long term things in February. 01:21:34
Or March. 01:21:37
Like actual plan. 01:21:38
And still pass this budget like we can plan. 01:21:40
Like not approving the budget is not preventing us from planning. 01:21:44
So you can approve this budget. 01:21:48
And then? 01:21:50
Actually, uh. 01:21:51
Which I agree with. 01:21:52
Supervisor Johnson and other people. 01:21:54
That we could actually talk about long term planning. 01:21:56
In the spring. 01:21:59
And not. 01:22:01
Have this big delay about how we're going to fund roads and I'm sure. 01:22:02
I'm guessing. 01:22:06
Our Director of Finance and our administrator were like would welcome. 01:22:08
Long term. 01:22:12
Financial planning. 01:22:13
I don't think they're the ones holding us up. 01:22:15
But this is a stopgap again. 01:22:18
That is taking money from other areas. 01:22:21
That. 01:22:24
Have already been thought out and a lot of people weren't in on. 01:22:25
Some of our strategic planning, but we already did strategic planning and this budget for the most part addresses. 01:22:28
Those strategic planning needs, I agree we need to talk about roads and I think we shouldn't wait. 01:22:34
Till next November, I agree we should do this. 01:22:39
In the spring. 01:22:42
But that doesn't mean we should not vote for the budget. 01:22:43
Supervisor band is in. 01:22:49
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:22:52
I'm in agreement with this I. 01:22:55
I mean it. 01:22:57
Adds 17.4 miles and then the budget has 8 miles in it, so it brings us to 25 miles. 01:22:57
It takes some money out of the general fund balance, but it doesn't really drain it down that much and I think that's going to 01:23:05
get. 01:23:08
Additions from this year's. 01:23:12
There's going to be surpluses that add on to our. 01:23:14
Unassigned fund balances. 01:23:18
I think we. 01:23:21
I agree with Supervisor Johnson that we need to think about this better. We got. 01:23:22
Major. 01:23:27
Other borrowing coming up with the radios and with the building. 01:23:29
We don't know what's going to happen with that yet. 01:23:32
I think we just need to stopgap. 01:23:35
This and just do this one year. 01:23:37
Amendment and then do some long term planning. 01:23:40
You never know what's gonna happen either. There might be something. 01:23:44
Coming down the road. 01:23:47
The Wisconsin government says you can add another quarter percent sales tax or they're going to say we're going to give you some 01:23:49
of the money that we have in our coffer. 01:23:53
To help build. 01:23:58
Roads and. 01:23:59
I just think. 01:24:02
I just think this is something that we have to think about a little longer. 01:24:03
Thank you. 01:24:07
Supervisor Johnson. 01:24:08
Yes, I this is the the amendment that I support, the Beale amendment, it reflects I believe. 01:24:10
The current sediments expressed by the board members. Over the last several meetings, I've listened to you very carefully. 01:24:16
And I worked with Dave and. 01:24:22
And several of the staff members here. This is a very well thought out plant. It does do 25.5 miles. Yes it is a one time, but 01:24:23
it's a compromise. Is it everything I want? 01:24:29
Absolutely not. 01:24:34
But if we pass this, I think I can walk away saying I think we did good. 01:24:35
And I think we are providing excellent service. 01:24:39
For our constituents. 01:24:43
And laying the groundwork. 01:24:45
Giving us a little time and I will as part of the executive committee, I give my commitment to this county board. 01:24:47
That I will push very hard. 01:24:53
To have a sustainable plan, a strategy, not necessarily a policy, a strategy for debt. 01:24:55
In debt in the future? 01:25:01
And I will, I will be following up and I give you my solemn commitment of that so that you will not be dealing with this next 01:25:02
November. 01:25:05
But it will be done earlier in the year as stress so I I support this. 01:25:08
And, and I ask you also to support it and I think I'll put our county in a good position. The actual roads in here are very 01:25:12
similar. 01:25:16
To the amendment by John and Karen and I think you, I think you'll find that it really will keep our crews busy and meet our our 01:25:19
long term goals. 01:25:24
Thank you. 01:25:28
Supervisor Grukenberger. 01:25:30
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:25:32
I I note, of course, that Mister Beale is spent the last year and a half on the highway committee, so. 01:25:34
I suspect that this amendment doesn't come without. 01:25:39
Any experience or any knowledge of? 01:25:42
What is needed? 01:25:44
By the highway department and by Dutch county in general. 01:25:46
And I concur with Mr. Johnson that this is a reasonable compromise. 01:25:49
It certainly addresses many miles of roads. 01:25:53
Although it does add. 01:25:58
A small amount of debt service levy. 01:26:00
I've said. 01:26:03
For the last 5-6 months that I would not be opposed to that. 01:26:05
Because I believe that that's reasonable. 01:26:08
And. 01:26:11
I believe the funding plan is is well thought out and it takes advantage of. 01:26:13
Existing grants that would be available to us for the projects so. 01:26:17
I'd encourage people to support this. 01:26:23
To solve some of our immediate needs. 01:26:26
Thanks. 01:26:28
Supervisor Clacko. 01:26:30
I'm not familiar with some of the roads that we're talking about. Are these? 01:26:33
Does anybody know if these roads are D's and F's? 01:26:37
Are these? 01:26:41
Any of these roads sees. 01:26:42
I think it's important that we prioritize which roads we're actually doing and and this might be it. And if it is, that's great. I 01:26:44
just like some clarity on that if anybody could. 01:26:48
The you want to speak to that. 01:26:52
Supervisor Beal, or would you want me to speak to it? 01:26:55
If you need to, you can jump in, but. 01:27:00
These roads are all rated every year. 01:27:04
And the highway commissioner and his crew have gone out and. 01:27:07
Driven the roads. 01:27:12
And. 01:27:14
I believe it's called the PACER rating has been applied. 01:27:15
And they're all scored. 01:27:19
Based on. 01:27:22
Condition and and. 01:27:23
That. So yes, they're all on the list. 01:27:24
They they our roads that are in need of repair. 01:27:27
And. 01:27:31
That's why the highway committee. 01:27:32
Or, I shouldn't say committee, but the Commissioner and his crew. 01:27:34
Have recommended that these roads be repaired. 01:27:38
It's a combination of the pacer rating and the. 01:27:42
And the traffic on the roads. 01:27:46
That prioritize these roads. 01:27:48
Supervisor Keel. 01:27:54
Yes, I. 01:27:57
To ask and I'm trying to find. 01:27:58
The original resolution here OK. 01:28:04
That's two I want to. 01:28:09
In this one. 01:28:14
I just want to clarify and ask that. 01:28:15
The transfer from the fund balance. 01:28:19
Fund 220 to 400 is $904,000. 01:28:24
Which means we're leaving approximately. 01:28:29
400 and. 01:28:33
Some $1000. 01:28:35
For general fund. 01:28:37
Applied because the projects weren't included. 01:28:39
Enough to cover staffing. 01:28:45
220 to 400. The 904 is labour based on the number of projects that were included in this proposal actually leaves about 600. 01:28:47
Oh, into. 01:28:59
Operations. 01:29:01
So we still have 600,000. 01:29:02
Of Labor. of Labor being supported by the General Fund. 01:29:04
Because we don't have enough projects in the budget, it leaves 600 to apply to. 01:29:09
Operations and maintenance in. 01:29:15
The highway. 01:29:18
Department umm. 01:29:19
Above the normal. 01:29:22
Levy amount you're saying though? 01:29:24
Well, it's for maintenance. I would say it's not above the normal amount. It's. 01:29:26
There was labor put into the budget. 01:29:32
To be. 01:29:35
So we had had the employees here. 01:29:36
Correct. Tending the projects. 01:29:39
Being approved and this has amount being transferred for this number of projects. 01:29:41
And the other one it. 01:29:46
It transferred more because there were more projects being done, correct? 01:29:48
I don't Nate their view. 01:29:52
Would you like to weigh in on that or? 01:29:54
Whether they're on a project or on. 01:29:56
That money will be in. 01:30:04
It's just a matter of. 01:30:07
Project. 01:30:09
Yeah, because usually maintenance would be levy. 01:30:11
Because that's. 01:30:13
It's already in the Levy, yes. 01:30:15
Yeah. 01:30:17
But. 01:30:18
We didn't have enough. 01:30:18
In Levy. 01:30:20
To cover. 01:30:21
The. 01:30:22
Share of. 01:30:24
Road maintenance. 01:30:26
Rd. 01:30:27
County Road general maintenance. 01:30:28
Winter maintenance. 01:30:31
Because that normally would be a levy. 01:30:32
To the special revenue fund and. 01:30:34
And you're supplementing that? 01:30:37
To the tune of. 01:30:39
600 and some 1000 yet a fund balance because they're saying general fund balance. 01:30:42
You, the administrator, the finance director, want to speak to that. 01:30:48
Yes, I'll have Nathan go ahead. 01:30:53
Open, Nathan. 01:30:54
Aye, Supervisor Keel is correct. 01:30:56
Yeah, there's. 01:31:00
In order to. 01:31:02
Cover. Cover maintenance there. 01:31:05
Were insufficient levy funds and so in in the budget there was. 01:31:07
Someone point? 01:31:12
5 million that was up. 01:31:16
Fund balance applied. 01:31:18
To cover. 01:31:19
With additions of projects. 01:31:20
It were. 01:31:23
We're basically in. 01:31:24
In all reality, you're still using. 01:31:26
Well. 01:31:28
Sorry. 01:31:29
With the with this shift. 01:31:31
What we're doing is we're basically taking the fund balance applied that we had applied. 01:31:33
And we're moving it from the 220 fund to the 400 fund and so. 01:31:38
You're essentially doing the same thing. 01:31:44
You're getting at the same. 01:31:47
Same same bottom line if you will in order to. 01:31:51
Cover. 01:31:55
The the cost of salaries, but in this case. 01:31:56
900,000 is being devoted towards projects. 01:31:58
Versus. 01:32:02
Towards. 01:32:03
General Rd. Maintenance. 01:32:06
Cleaning of ditches and things of that nature. 01:32:09
You want to repeat that? I'm just saying it's over and above. 01:32:18
The normal. 01:32:22
Process and it is general fund. 01:32:25
Balance applied. 01:32:28
I just want that clarified. 01:32:30
11 moment. 01:32:34
Yeah. 01:32:36
Did you want to share that? 01:32:38
No. So I. 01:32:39
Yeah, it's really more about not over and above the normal, but. 01:32:42
Where dollars are coming from and for what type of work, as was mentioned already. So yes, we. 01:32:46
We have an amount that. 01:32:53
That we know labor will cost. 01:32:54
And we? 01:32:56
Right. We, we've just pulled that out of a couple different locations or moved. 01:32:58
Moved some funds from one location to another. When we talk about maintenance projects, we're also talking about. 01:33:02
As you mentioned, Supervisor Kiel, we're talking about dollars that can come from. 01:33:08
Levy when we're talking about. 01:33:12
Capital projects we're talking about. 01:33:16
Fund 400 Capital. 01:33:18
So I'm not sure. 01:33:20
Beyond that? 01:33:23
Exactly what you're. 01:33:24
When you're talking about over and above the normal. 01:33:25
I'm trying to think about of another way to explain it, but. 01:33:29
Are you normally? 01:33:32
I'm sorry you normally budget. 01:33:34
So and so much for winter maintenance. So and so much for. 01:33:37
County maintenance. 01:33:40
And that is Levy, because that's. 01:33:43
Being charged for equipment and labor and everything. 01:33:45
Applying fund balance is not. 01:33:52
The way you usually. 01:33:57
It's applying. It's. 01:34:00
It's saying it's not. 01:34:01
Making ends meet, you have extra labor. 01:34:05
You're only doing the. 01:34:08
But then. 01:34:10
You're also doing equipment? No, you're just doing the labor with this fund balance. 01:34:12
That doesn't help these. 01:34:17
Enterprise Fund. 01:34:19
Right, meet their needs is where I'm trying to get at. 01:34:21
You need. 01:34:25
The Enterprise Fund. 01:34:26
To be working. 01:34:28
You need them to be working on projects that are build back. 01:34:29
And funded. 01:34:34
Not by fund balance. 01:34:36
Supervisor Derrick. 01:34:40
I just want to clarify or ask. This amendment is taking 1,000,000 / 1,000,000. 01:34:42
Out of that. 01:34:48
Economic Development Fund. 01:34:49
Right, correct. 01:34:50
And then we're talking about. 01:34:52
You know, doing some long term financing. 01:34:53
So counties. 01:34:57
Can go out and we can borrow. 01:34:58
And directly fund housing projects and we can directly fund those. 01:35:00
OK. And you know. 01:35:05
Supervisor kills shaking your head no. And I agree. We're not developers, we're not in that business right so. 01:35:07
We can help. 01:35:13
Other. 01:35:15
Developers who are doing a project by contributing. 01:35:16
Money 5% or whatever to get it over the top we. 01:35:20
We can do that. 01:35:23
But we're we know we can. 01:35:25
Borrow money. 01:35:28
For roads. 01:35:29
You can't. And this is the difference, right? You can't borrow money. 01:35:30
To fund your economic. 01:35:34
Development Fund. 01:35:36
So what seems like. 01:35:39
And I mean in all. 01:35:40
Really well-intentioned. 01:35:42
A compromise? 01:35:44
Honestly is handicapping us. 01:35:45
We cannot. 01:35:47
We can only borrow from for infrastructure generally. 01:35:49
You can't operate do for. 01:35:53
Bar operations type. 01:35:54
Type so. 01:35:56
We're losing that. 01:35:58
Fund and were not. 01:35:59
Getting it back. 01:36:01
We're portion we're talking about this amendment now and this one has no. 01:36:04
Borrowing in it, so I don't think it's appropriate to. 01:36:08
Talk about borrowing. No, honestly, I. 01:36:12
Respectfully disagree, because I think there's a sense that we can grab money right from funding, including finance, Mr. Chairman, 01:36:15
and I don't think. 01:36:20
I just want to clarify. 01:36:25
We can borrow for roads. 01:36:27
Right away. 01:36:29
Like we can talk about it and borrow whenever we want, right? Or in the budget? 01:36:30
We can't do that same borrowing to replenish this economic fund. So money is not fungible. You can't just pull it from one part 01:36:34
and then think we can fill it the same or different way. 01:36:41
We have a great amount of ability to raise a lot of money. 01:36:48
By financing it. 01:36:52
But we can't do that for economic development unless we're actually doing infrastructure. 01:36:53
And we've all agreed. 01:36:59
That financing economic projects is not what we want to directly be doing. We want to support projects that are 95% done and get 01:37:00
them over the line. 01:37:04
And so. 01:37:09
It's well-intentioned. 01:37:10
But we're handicapping ourselves by putting. 01:37:12
Might pulling money out of something that we. 01:37:14
Can't replenish by financing. 01:37:16
Supervisor Kane. 01:37:20
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:37:22
I too. 01:37:24
Don't like to see money coming out of the economic Development Fund and I hope that. 01:37:26
At some point there. 01:37:31
Perhaps could be some additional funds that would come in that we could. 01:37:32
Conduct a budget amendment and and replenish this but. 01:37:36
I do in the interest of compromise and of getting our roads. 01:37:40
Repaired would would support this and. 01:37:44
Urge my fellow supervisors to do the same. 01:37:47
Thank you. 01:37:50
OK. 01:37:53
Supervisor Van de Zen. 01:37:55
Getting back to that. 01:37:58
220 fund balance thing. 01:38:01
It was. This is like a. 01:38:03
The first time they did this with this expenses I believe. 01:38:05
And it is. 01:38:09
Considered only a one year. 01:38:10
A1 year. 01:38:14
Allocation and then they're going to revisit it so. 01:38:18
Just to clarify that. Thank you. 01:38:20
OK, are we ready to vote? 01:38:24
I believe we are. 01:38:28
If you agree with this amendment. 01:38:29
As presented. 01:38:33
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:38:35
Supervisor. 01:38:50
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:38:56
Yes. 01:38:58
All having voted, it passes 23 to 7. 01:39:01
Amendment #4. 01:39:09
Take $2,000,000 from Community Development. 01:39:11
Supervisor Hauschen is. 01:39:16
Is requesting to pull that amendment. Let's pull it since. 01:39:20
It's already been covered. 01:39:24
Thank you. 01:39:26
All right, I think we. 01:39:30
We will go on with our agenda but finance and Corp Council needs to. 01:39:32
Get the details into the final draft. 01:39:37
Oh, OK. 01:39:42
Are there any, are there any amendments from the floor? 01:39:43
No, OK. 01:39:49
OK. And so finance and Corp Council will get the final version of the of the budget? 01:39:50
With all the details put in. 01:39:56
In the meantime, we will proceed with our. 01:39:58
Agenda. 01:40:00
So we're going to skip. 01:40:05
Past 47, we're going to go to report. 01:40:07
Pause or we just. No, we're gonna we're. 01:40:12
We're we're going to go to the report. 01:40:14
Table this. 01:40:17
We will. 01:40:18
Hold on. 01:40:20
We will bring the. 01:40:21
Final version of of #47 the budget. 01:40:23
Back uh. 01:40:26
Later in the agenda. 01:40:27
Or just. 01:40:28
If your if your preference is to take time. 01:40:37
And just. 01:40:40
Wild time away here while they do that. That's fine. 01:40:42
But otherwise I. 01:40:45
I propose that we go ahead. 01:40:47
With the rest of the agenda. 01:40:49
Allow them to get the final version with all the details put in from the amendments. 01:40:51
And when they? 01:40:56
Have that done, they will bring back and we will vote on it. 01:40:57
Through 4:00. 01:41:01
He thinks we're still on amendment. 01:41:03
No, no, he's talking about the the whole budget. 01:41:05
So. 01:41:08
I believe that's appropriate to do, but. 01:41:10
If anybody. 01:41:13
Kim is not here to correct me right now, so. 01:41:15
So are there any? 01:41:19
Objection. 01:41:20
We will return to 2547 the budget. 01:41:22
When they get the final details in. 01:41:25
In the meantime, we're going to go to report #1. 01:41:27
Report one. 01:41:33
Ordinance number. 01:41:35
1183. 01:41:38
An ordinance amending. 01:41:42
The 2000 official zoning map for the Town of Emmett adapted with the Land Use Code. 01:41:43
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks hereby report favorably. 01:41:49
On the petition of Chad Reimer requesting amendment of. 01:41:54
The land use code. 01:41:58
Which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025, signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks 01:42:01
Committee. 01:42:06
I have a motion by Supervisor Burnett and a second by Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:42:11
Supervisor Clacko. 01:42:19
What are they going to do with this land? 01:42:20
To allow for a painting contractor business. 01:42:32
Without outdoor storage is what it says. 01:42:35
Thank you. 01:42:41
OK. Any other questions? 01:42:42
If you agree with the report from the committee. 01:42:47
Please vote. 01:42:50
And if you do not, please vote no. 01:42:53
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:42:59
Yes. 01:43:01
All having voted, it passes 28 to 2. 01:43:04
Perfect. 01:43:07
Report 3. 01:43:08
Ordinance number 11. 01:43:10
85. 01:43:13
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report favorably on the petition of Sally. 01:43:15
Did you skip to? 01:43:22
Oh, I apologize. 01:43:24
Report 2. 01:43:26
I skipped ahead. 01:43:28
An ordinance amending the 2000 official zoning map for the Town of Fox Lake. 01:43:31
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report. 01:43:37
Report favorably on the petition of Stephen Tilma. 01:43:41
Requesting amendment of the land use code. 01:43:45
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November 2025. Signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks 01:43:48
Committee. 01:43:52
I have a motion by Supervisor Molly, second by Supervisor Bischoff. 01:43:56
Any questions or comments on this report? 01:44:01
Any questions? 01:44:07
OK, if you agree with the report. 01:44:10
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:44:13
Supervisor Freebult. 01:44:20
Yes. 01:44:23
All having voted, it passes 28 to 1. 01:44:25
Report 3. Ordinance 1185. 01:44:31
An ordinance amending the 2000 official zoning map for the Town of Hustisford. 01:44:36
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report favorably on the petition of Sally. 01:44:42
Gals and cabin girls. 01:44:48
Agent for Randall M Stone and Kristen D Wallen. 01:44:49
Requesting an amendment of the Land Use Code, all of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025, signed by 01:44:53
five members of the Land Resources and Parks Committee. 01:44:59
I have a motion by supervisor Bischoff and a second by supervisor Molly. 01:45:05
Any questions on this report? 01:45:10
Any questions? 01:45:15
Does it say sign in? Can you hit that? 01:45:22
Request to speak absent. 01:45:25
OK. 01:45:29
Put them back in. Thank you. OK. 01:45:31
OK. 01:45:35
Ours say that you're all present. 01:45:43
Yeah, it should be a. 01:45:48
They've already. 01:45:55
This is already moved to 1186 on my. 01:45:57
I'm texting the company. 01:46:00
The company. 01:46:02
Yeah. 01:46:27
We're already on 1186 on here and we should be on 1185. 01:46:30
Oh, that just says next agenda item. 01:46:40
OK. All right. 01:46:42
So run report 3 hip both. 01:46:43
Did everybody's come back up now? 01:46:51
Because we put it to vote. 01:46:55
OK. 01:46:57
If you agree with the report of the committee, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:47:00
Free Vault. 01:47:15
Supervisor free. 01:47:16
Yes. 01:47:18
All having voted, it passes 27 to 3. 01:47:21
OK Ordinance 1186, an ordinance amending chapter 2, the governing body creating section 2.04. 01:47:29
County Board compensation of the Dodge County Code of Ordinances. 01:47:39
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 01:47:45
Signed by. 01:47:51
Six members of the executive committee. 01:47:54
Fiscal note The proposed budget for 2026 did not increase. 01:47:57
Per diem rates, future year budgets will be developed. 01:48:02
At the rate set forth in section 2.04. 01:48:05
Finance Committee review date November 12, 2025. 01:48:09
Initialed by Finance Committee chair. 01:48:14
I have a motion by supervisor Cavazanian and a second by Supervisor Kane. 01:48:17
And the motion is to leave everything. 01:48:23
At its current rate. 01:48:26
Is that correct? 01:48:28
Yeah, OK. Any discussion? 01:48:30
Anyone wish to speak? 01:48:34
If you agree with the recommendation of the executive committee to. 01:48:38
Leave all. 01:48:42
Per diems compensation the same as it is currently. Please vote yes if you do not. 01:48:45
Vote no. 01:48:51
Supervisor free vote. 01:48:59
Yes. 01:49:02
All having voted, it passes 29 to 1. 01:49:04
Claim one. 01:49:11
On the recommendation of the Dodge County Corporation Council in consultation with Wisconsin Municipal Mutual Insurance Company. 01:49:14
We, the Dodge County Executive Committee, recommend that the Dodge County Board of Supervisor. 01:49:22
Supervisors disallow the claim made by Leanne Dodge. 01:49:27
Dated October 21st, 2025. 01:49:32
All of which is respectfully submitted this. 01:49:36
Third day of November 2025. Signed by six members of the Executive Committee. 01:49:38
I have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger and a second by Supervisor Miller. 01:49:45
Any discussion on this? 01:49:51
So the motion. 01:49:55
Is to deny the claim. 01:49:57
Is there? If you agree with the motion to deny the claim, please vote yes if you do not. 01:50:01
Please vote no. 01:50:07
Supervisor Johnson. 01:50:17
Kiel. 01:50:22
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:50:26
Yes. 01:50:29
All having voted, it passes 30 to 0. 01:50:30
OK, you want to make your statement. 01:50:38
I can. 01:50:42
Next item on the agenda. 01:50:45
Statement by county clerk for the spring election. Your nomination papers. 01:50:48
Our candidacy papers are. 01:50:55
Started for you and available in my office after the meeting. 01:50:58
Um, so stop by. 01:51:02
Just a reminder, circulation and signatures cannot be collected until December 1st at the. 01:51:05
Earliest. 01:51:11
They also need to be returned by January 5th by 5:00 PM. 01:51:13
OK, at this point I think we will take a recess until we get. 01:51:18
We hear back from. 01:51:24
Finance and corporate counsel. 01:51:25
All right, everyone had. 01:51:46
Does everyone have a copy of the? 01:51:50
Budget as amended. 01:51:52
As Administrator Clapper is going to. 01:51:56
Go over the changes and then we will have the vote. 01:52:00
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:52:05
And thank you everybody for being here today. 01:52:07
Right down on the on the first page, line 23 of your resolution. 01:52:10
Thank you, Operational revenues. 01:52:15
That was increased by about 8.5 million. 01:52:18
As a result of amendments today. 01:52:22
Property tax revenue as listed there with. 01:52:24
Not including. 01:52:28
Any payments in property tax for debt service remains the same unchanged transfers in. 01:52:29
That line changes from. 01:52:36
The original number to 22,950,654, an increase of $4.3 million. 01:52:38
About sales tax revenue remains the same, bond proceeds remains 0. 01:52:45
Debt levy. 01:52:51
Is. 01:52:53
Increased by $944,250. That's. 01:52:54
Increasing from zero. 01:52:58
Fund balance or net position applied increased by 4.25 million. 01:53:00
To $11,469,964. 01:53:06
For a total. 01:53:09
Of revenues of 201. 01:53:10
762349. 01:53:12
201 million. 01:53:14
Dollars. 01:53:15
Expense line wages. 01:53:17
58,000,000 remains. 01:53:19
954,230. 01:53:21
That's unchanged benefits unchanged. Operational expenses and expenditures increased $4.2 million to 71,069,498. Capital outlay 01:53:23
increased by. 01:53:29
9.2. 01:53:35
Or almost 9.3 million to 17,211,376. 01:53:37
Transfers out. 01:53:43
Increased by 4.3 million. 01:53:44
To 22,950,654. 01:53:46
And other expenses. 01:53:50
Increased. 01:53:52
By 119. 01:53:54
$1250 to be 8,222,000. 01:53:55
105 dollars. 01:54:00
Again for a total of $201,000,762. 01:54:01
349 cents, which shows balanced. 01:54:05
And that's all I'll share. 01:54:09
OK, we have a. 01:54:14
Motion on the floor for 2547, the Budget as amended. 01:54:16
Are we ready to vote? 01:54:23
Yep, I'm just making sure free vaults still on. 01:54:25
Yes, Sir, you can go to vote. 01:54:29
If you agree with the amended budget. 01:54:35
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:54:37
Supervisor may know supervisor free vault. 01:54:51
Yes. 01:54:55
All having voted, it passes 24 to 5. 01:54:58
Thank you. 01:55:02
Just to review. 01:55:13
The items on your desk before we go. 01:55:15
On your desk. 01:55:19
There was. 01:55:21
The communications on file that we. 01:55:22
Discussed there. 01:55:25
Is. 01:55:27
The ADRC Connections newsletter. 01:55:28
And then also there is the Discover Wisconsin 2026 calendar. 01:55:32
Like other years, if you don't want your calendar, you won't use it. 01:55:38
My office will take them back. We. 01:55:43
We then hand them. 01:55:46
And we give them to Clearview residents and. 01:55:48
So we make good use out of them if you won't use it. 01:55:51
OK, Supervisor Johnson. 01:55:55
Yes, I make a motion to adjourn to the next meeting on Tuesday, December 16th, 2025 at 6:00 PM. 01:55:59
I have a second by supervisor Minel. 01:56:05
All in favor signify by. 01:56:08
Aye, opposed. 01:56:10
And it's carried. Thank you everyone. 01:56:12
I think I think everyone is on on your list is on there. 01:56:17
I think, I think everyone was on there. Wasn't it pretty snowing out of all of them? 01:56:22
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Event transcript
Under God, indivisible. 00:00:00
With liberty and justice for all. 00:00:02
All right, Please remember to. 00:00:09
Punch in. 00:00:12
Supervisor Breslow, Supervisor Sigmund, Supervisor Yarrick are excused. 00:00:15
Supervisor Frivolt is on the phone. 00:00:21
All right, what's your pleasure? The minutes from October 21st, 28th and 30th. 00:00:34
Motion. 00:00:46
Supervisor. 00:00:47
Kane. 00:00:48
Nothing coming up. 00:00:55
Not coming up on my screen. 00:00:58
OK. We have a motion by Supervisor Kane, second by Supervisor Guckenberger. 00:01:04
Any additions or corrections? 00:01:09
Seeing none all in favor signify by aye. 00:01:14
Opposed. 00:01:18
That is carried. 00:01:19
Communications on file. 00:01:21
Communications on file. 00:01:26
There is copies on your. 00:01:29
Desk to refer to. 00:01:32
There is. 00:01:34
One from the Land, Resources and Parks Department. 00:01:36
Regarding the Dodge County Con. 00:01:39
Apprehensive plan update. 00:01:43
And also there is a communication from retired Highway Commissioner Fields. 00:01:45
OK. 00:01:55
Public comment Is there anything out there? No public comment. 00:02:00
#7 is a special order of business to confirm reappointments by County Board Chair. 00:02:05
Of Jeff Dukach, Marianne Zastrow, Tom Schaefer, Mary Schaefer and Lori Courts the Friends of Clearview for a two year term. 00:02:10
To expire December 31st, 2027. 00:02:18
Have a motion by Supervisor Hendricks, second by Supervisor Stager. 00:02:22
Any questions or comments? 00:02:27
Seeing none all in favor signify by aye. 00:02:31
Aye, opposed. 00:02:34
That is carried. 00:02:36
All right. 00:02:39
#8. 00:02:42
Is a motion to use the. 00:02:43
Unused levy from previous year. 00:02:46
To in an amount of 58,000 and 30 dollars. 00:02:50
I need do I have a motion? 00:02:57
All right. I have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger, second by Supervisor Keel. 00:03:02
Any questions? 00:03:07
Seeing none. 00:03:12
All I'm that one. This is a 2/3 vote, so we need to. 00:03:13
Have you vote if you agree? 00:03:18
With the. 00:03:20
Recommendation to use the amount of unused levy of 58-O30. Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:03:21
Supervisor Free Vault. 00:03:36
Yes. 00:03:39
All having passes it. 00:03:41
All having voted, it passes 30 to 0. 00:03:43
#9. 00:03:49
Commendation for Brian Field. 00:03:51
Resolutions on file. 00:03:54
25. 00:03:58
45 Commendation of Brian Field. 00:03:59
Whereas Brian Field has contributed. 00:04:04
20 years of dedicated service to Dodge County and the citizens of Dodge County. 00:04:07
And whereas. 00:04:11
Dodge County and its citizens have benefited from the services he has provided. 00:04:13
And whereas Brian Field has chosen to retire from his present position of Hwy. Commissioner. 00:04:17
With the Dodge County Highway Department. 00:04:22
And now there be it. Resolved that we, the Dodge County Board of Supervisors, pause in its deliberations. 00:04:25
To recognize and commend Brian Field for his 20 years of meritorious service. 00:04:32
And be it further resolved. 00:04:37
That on behalf of the citizens of Dodge County, and this board does herewith extend. 00:04:39
To his appreciation for his money, accomplishments and successes over the 20 years of service. 00:04:44
And be it finally resolved that a copy of this resolution be entered into the official records of the Dodge County Board of 00:04:50
Supervisors. 00:04:54
And that a copy of this resolution be forwarded to Brian Field as a token of appreciation and. 00:04:57
Part of this board. 00:05:03
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 00:05:04
Signed by five members of the Human Resources Committee. 00:05:09
Please rise for a standing vote of acceptance. 00:05:13
Thank you. 00:05:24
Resolution. 00:05:30
2546. 00:05:32
A resolution authorizing the acquisition of easements for the Gold Star Memorial Trail, Phase 2. 00:05:40
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 00:05:47
Signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks Committee. 00:05:52
Fiscal note. 00:05:56
Friends of Dodge County Park Inc has pledged funds to cover the. 00:05:57
Of the acquisition of easements contingent upon the approval of this resolution. 00:06:02
And will be documented accordingly once approved. 00:06:08
Due to confidentiality concerns regarding the committed funds, we are unable to disclose the specific amount at this time. 00:06:11
Finance Committee Review date November 3rd, 2025 Signed by Finance Committee Chair. 00:06:19
I have a motion by supervisor Grukenberger and second by supervisor Molly. 00:06:26
Any questions, comments? 00:06:31
On this resolution. 00:06:33
Any questions? 00:06:37
Seeing none if you agree with the resolution to. 00:06:40
Purchase the easements. 00:06:44
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:06:46
Free Vault. 00:06:54
Yes. 00:06:56
All having voted, it passes 30 to 0. 00:06:59
OK. 00:07:06
So before I read. 00:07:09
The next resolution title. 00:07:12
I just want to remind everybody. 00:07:14
That the amendments that are already currently on file. 00:07:17
When we put, when we get to those. 00:07:21
We have to enter the motion of who submitted those amendment. 00:07:24
And then somebody can second so. 00:07:28
Please wait until we enter the motion first. 00:07:30
Perfect. 00:07:35
25472026 Dodge County budget appropriation. 00:07:38
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 00:07:47
Signed by four members of the Finance Committee. 00:07:52
Fiscal Note This resolution constitutes the proposed 2026 Dodge County budget with a proposed property tax levy of. 00:07:56
$37,139,222. 00:08:07
Finance Committee Meeting date November 3rd, 2025 in. 00:08:11
Initialed by Finance Committee chair. 00:08:16
OK, we have a motion by Supervisor Kane. 00:08:18
And they? 00:08:22
2nd. 00:08:24
Second by supervisor Keel. 00:08:27
So the. 00:08:30
Budget is now on the floor and. 00:08:31
We can go to. 00:08:35
Discussion or amendments? Supervisor Kavazanjan. 00:08:37
I'll I'll wait on my amendment. 00:08:42
My my comments, I'm sorry. 00:08:45
OK, Supervisor Guckenberger. 00:08:48
I make a motion to amend the budget. 00:08:51
Based on amendment #3 as shown in the. 00:08:54
Agenda. 00:08:58
To include one highway project resurfacing currently unfunded county highway P. 00:08:59
From Coney Hwy. 60 to County Highway 30, three 7.4 miles. 00:09:03
OK. Is that amendment out there? 00:09:09
I believe based on what Danielle said that that amendment. 00:09:14
Needs to be. 00:09:20
Submitted by Supervisor segment as the motion right. 00:09:21
Yeah, yeah. 00:09:25
So he's not here. 00:09:28
I'm I'm, I'm taking the same words and I'm proposing as as an amendment. 00:09:31
Now I'd be happy to bring this up and put my name on the bottom. 00:09:36
No, that's OK. 00:09:41
We will just when we get to that amendment, we'll put it in with you as the motion. 00:09:42
I understand. I I'm bringing this amendment to the floor right now. 00:09:47
So is this a motion to amend? Yes, there's a motion to amend the budget. 00:09:51
As outlined in amendment #3. 00:09:55
I'm sorry. 00:09:58
Is this a motion to amend the agenda to allow that to be first? 00:09:59
It's just an amendment to the budget it's being presented by. 00:10:03
Supervisor Gutenberger. 00:10:07
OK, understood. 00:10:08
That's OK. So we're going to. 00:10:11
But then we're going to edit it. 00:10:18
F1 and you can do. 00:10:29
Can you please hit motion? 00:10:33
We Yeah. 00:10:35
Are on it. Can you hit motions who? Thank you Sir. 00:10:36
OK, and now we just need a second. 00:10:40
Have a second by Supervisor Burnett. 00:10:46
OK. Mr. Guckenberger, do you want to speak to your? 00:10:52
Amendment. 00:10:56
Sure. 00:10:57
So. 00:10:59
Being a member of Exec committee. 00:11:01
As well as the Finance Committee of this, this was the first motion that was presented. 00:11:03
To to the budget the 1st Amendment proposed. 00:11:09
And despite the fact that. 00:11:12
These four amendments that we see on this piece of paper on our agenda. 00:11:16
It's it's only fair. 00:11:21
That this one be evaluated in terms of its. 00:11:24
Presentation. 00:11:30
Needs to be presented first. 00:11:31
And I wanted to make sure that it was first. 00:11:33
Because. 00:11:36
Once we start dealing with these amendments, if if one does pass, then it's going to preclude the ability to do any of the other 00:11:38
ones. 00:11:41
So. 00:11:46
That's my justification for bringing it forward. 00:11:48
And as you would know by the minutes of the exec meeting, the clerk brought it up as an agenda item. 00:11:51
And the agenda was approved at that time. 00:11:58
So. 00:12:01
Supervisor. 00:12:04
Thank you. I want to agree with. 00:12:08
Supervisor. 00:12:11
Guggenberger, I feel like these amendments were listed. 00:12:14
And they should be listed in the order they were received. 00:12:17
And we know that the one that you were doing first was not. 00:12:20
And I feel like it was that the administrator wanted to go first because it's basically what the administrators. 00:12:24
Suggested at the Exact and Finance Committee. 00:12:29
So I think. 00:12:32
Mr. Sigmund should go first. Thank you. 00:12:33
I will respond to that. In it, it was not the administrator, it was my call and it is not the same as what it was at the Finance 00:12:37
Committee. 00:12:41
Mr. Conway. 00:12:46
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:12:48
Just because I want to clarify for myself. 00:12:50
This motion was. 00:12:54
Or this amendment was brought up first? 00:12:55
But this new. 00:13:01
Amendment. 00:13:03
Is not. 00:13:04
The same because it's brought by Supervisor Gutenberg. 00:13:06
I just want to get a clarification on it. 00:13:09
So we don't have an issue sometime later on. 00:13:12
That's all. 00:13:14
So to me I look and go if this is new. 00:13:16
Brought by Supervisor Cuckoo Berger. Wouldn't this be? 00:13:18
The last amendment. 00:13:21
Or would this be? 00:13:23
Moving this other amendment to. 00:13:25
Top of the. 00:13:28
Line because it was brought forward. 00:13:29
1st. 00:13:31
I'm just again, I don't. 00:13:32
Have the rules down pad enough? I'm looking for a clarification. 00:13:33
Thank you. And that is why I asked if it was a motion to amend the agenda and. 00:13:36
Mr. Grukenberger said it was not. 00:13:42
So. 00:13:45
Corp Council, do you want to weigh in? 00:13:48
No, I actually don't. 00:13:53
Want to want to weigh in on this. I I mean it. It really is a procedural matter. 00:13:55
So to Supervisor Conway's point. 00:14:01
It probably would be the 5th Amendment, but what I understand Supervisor Gutenberger wanting to do is bring the. 00:14:04
Amendments forward in the order in which they were received. 00:14:12
As probably everyone knows, Supervisor Sigmund's amendment was. 00:14:16
It presented. 00:14:21
Even to the Finance Committee. 00:14:23
And in the Finance Committee decided to pass it along to the board. 00:14:25
Without an endorsement because they didn't take any action. 00:14:29
So I mean. 00:14:32
We can be technical about it, or we can be. 00:14:35
Common sense about it Supervisor Gutenberger is simply bringing forward. 00:14:37
First supervisor segments amendment. 00:14:42
So I understand what you're saying, Supervisor Conway, but. 00:14:44
Let's let's not stumble over the procedure. 00:14:47
I bringing amendment number. 00:14:51
3. 00:14:53
Forward first, I think the Board needs to speak to that amendment and deal with that amendment in. 00:14:54
Dispose of it how? 00:15:00
It wishes. 00:15:02
Yeah, I am good. 00:15:04
So am I so. 00:15:06
Super a group member you want to speak again or. 00:15:08
I don't know if I'm still on, but I think it would be appropriate for the amendment. 00:15:14
To be explained to the board. 00:15:18
Walk through it so that. 00:15:20
Everyone understands the impact of it. 00:15:22
And the the. 00:15:25
Obviously the road project that's being proposed and how it's being funded. 00:15:27
According to this amendment. 00:15:31
So, and if Supervisor Sigmund would would be here, he would be the first to speak to it. So I I guess I would just defer to 00:15:33
Supervisor Gutenberger to give that explanation. 00:15:38
OK, here we go. OK, so the desire is to include highway P for a section of a 7.4 miles. Basically it's. 00:15:44
From a highway. 00:15:52
33 to. 00:15:53
County highway, or I mean state highway 60. 00:15:56
The total expected cost was 4 point. 00:16:01
$3,000,000. 00:16:04
And the source of the funding would be a sales tax fund balance in the amount of 500,000. 00:16:07
$2,000,000 again from the sales tax that's been earmarked for economic development. So that would be an adjustment there. 00:16:13
A reduction of that 2 1/2 percent. 00:16:21
In salaries. 00:16:26
Or expected raises. 00:16:28
And these are the people above Step 5. 00:16:30
In the merit range. 00:16:34
Which we were told would be about $113,000. 00:16:35
And then I'll transfer the general fund balance which we were told. 00:16:39
The available fund balance was around $10 million. 00:16:44
That the grant money is grant. 00:16:49
That's available if we do this road. 00:16:52
So really what we're trying to do is capture that $1,000,000 in grants available for that project. 00:16:55
And. 00:17:02
Do the rest of the funding. 00:17:03
This would bring the total miles. 00:17:05
Completed in 26 to. 00:17:08
Just under 16 miles. 00:17:12
Supervisor Durer. 00:17:17
Thank you. 00:17:22
Mr. Chair. 00:17:23
I have some real. 00:17:26
Concerns about. 00:17:28
Not just the substance, but. 00:17:30
How this board is going? 00:17:32
To conduct. 00:17:34
Policy. 00:17:35
So in one amendment. 00:17:37
We're going to change the entire planning. 00:17:39
Of. 00:17:42
Wages. 00:17:42
Across the county. 00:17:44
Right, which is its own really significant entity and package. 00:17:45
Which had. 00:17:51
Really many, many months, maybe even years right into looking at the market, looking how you. 00:17:52
Want to give compensation but you don't want to give away the boat? And yet you can't. 00:17:59
Supervisor, you can't provide too much, right? 00:18:03
To initial people because the people above would get caught up. So there's this entire very well thought out step process that's 00:18:06
already been approved by this county board and we are not. 00:18:12
Human. 00:18:18
Resource. 00:18:19
Professionals. 00:18:20
And none of us. 00:18:21
Even those of us like me who read it a long time ago are really, really familiar. 00:18:23
Maybe I shouldn't speak for you, I'm not really familiar. 00:18:28
With the most recent McGrath study which I read years ago, right? So this is not the way to change. 00:18:31
Policy. 00:18:38
On such an important topic as wages, it's like. 00:18:39
2nd, it's not the way to do policy for a comprehensive plan for roads. 00:18:43
It's a multi multi multi $1,000,000. 00:18:50
It decision mm. 00:18:53
And you can't just grab pieces here and there, right and stuff it in and say, good, now we're covered for this year. What are we 00:18:55
doing next year? 00:18:59
Right. So this administrator has put forth a plan that includes long term funding and planning for roads into the future and if 00:19:03
people are worried that it has to be paid back. 00:19:10
Remember too that if the taxpayers in five years are paying back. 00:19:17
Right. Those who are 18 now or 17 and they're gonna be 25, they're the ones using the good roads. 00:19:22
So it makes sense. 00:19:27
That that folks can pay into the future. 00:19:30
And future boards will thank us for having done something. 00:19:33
On highways that is thoughtful and comprehensive. 00:19:37
And then the third policy that's getting upended is for two. 00:19:41
Years we've been listening. 00:19:45
To the importance of economic development. 00:19:47
Our board approved $2,000,000 that would be thoughtfully spent not in one big crack like 4 million for roads, but. 00:19:50
Little tiny pieces so that a. 00:19:58
10 million or $15 million development. 00:20:01
That's just $1,000,000 short. 00:20:03
And needs that little bounce from the county can go over the line. 00:20:06
And that's a lot of projects. 00:20:09
So those projects have a lot of things and then we are just helping get it over the line and that's the best use of money I can 00:20:11
imagine. So taking this beast meal. 00:20:17
Just to wrap in for. 00:20:22
How many roads, 40 miles and then upending all these other policies? 00:20:24
Is not. 00:20:29
The way to do thoughtful planning. 00:20:30
And it completely upends. 00:20:33
What I think has been the most thoughtful budget planning process that I've seen. 00:20:34
Ever. 00:20:38
Nothing further. 00:20:39
Supervisor Hedrick. 00:20:42
Oh, thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:20:46
I with in regards to what supervisor Durr just shared. 00:20:50
I was wondering if if it would be possible to hear from. 00:20:55
Our finance director, he presented because he presented about. 00:20:59
Long term budgeting at the Exec Committee meeting. 00:21:02
And that. 00:21:05
That was really eye opening to me. 00:21:06
The the concept of. 00:21:09
Of of thinking long term and why that is so important. 00:21:12
Does the board have any issue with that? 00:21:20
How is he going to tie it into this amendment? Because I, I think it, it does very much tie into kind of along the lines of what 00:21:23
Supervisor Durges said it ties into. 00:21:28
The benefits of looking at. 00:21:33
Roads from a long term perspective and budgeting for roads. 00:21:36
For example. 00:21:41
Not just roads, but. 00:21:42
In this case. 00:21:43
From a long term perspective. 00:21:45
Supervisor helps anyone speak to that. 00:21:50
Yes, I don't think we need to hear it. We've heard it from Mr. Clapper. 00:21:54
Already we had a whole board meeting where they. 00:21:58
Presented all this, I don't think that. 00:22:01
That will help us at this time, so I would be against it. 00:22:02
OK, That requires us to have a vote. Is that correct, Kim? 00:22:06
Thanks SO staff member. 00:22:11
Pardon Supervisor Grukenberger. 00:22:15
He's a staff member. We don't need to have a vote. 00:22:18
The rules were updated that we no longer need to vote for a staff member to address the board. 00:22:20
OK. 00:22:27
OK, can I just? 00:22:28
What but one point of clarification? 00:22:29
Despite the fact that the administrator may have put this fantastic plan together for roads. 00:22:32
There are three amendments of the four that are proposed, 3 out of the four. 00:22:37
Want to address Highway P. 00:22:41
So obviously it's missing in the budget. 00:22:43
Several. 00:22:46
Different members of this body have decided that hey, Highway P is an important part of this. 00:22:47
Whole planning process. 00:22:52
So, uh. 00:22:54
That's why. 00:22:56
That's why. 00:22:57
I I agree that. 00:22:58
Highway P should be done and I put it on the table. 00:23:00
But if you need some clarification on. 00:23:05
From, you know, how we might finance things in the future and all of that stuff if that's necessary. 00:23:08
The the amendment as proposed. 00:23:16
Fully funds. 00:23:19
Highway P. 00:23:21
The the the amendment is balanced. 00:23:22
Without any borrowing. Additional borrowing as presented. 00:23:26
You know, by the finance director. 00:23:29
And. 00:23:43
There you go. I think you. Yeah, OK. 00:23:44
Good SO. 00:23:47
To the, to the. 00:23:49
Question or request? 00:23:50
The information that was shared with the Finance Committee, I would defer to our finance Director to assist me in answering the 00:23:51
question. 00:23:54
He, we, we together shared information. 00:23:58
For my part. 00:24:02
I will just state the. 00:24:03
Components shared. 00:24:05
Really, we're talking about. 00:24:06
How to fund? 00:24:09
Projects. 00:24:10
And. 00:24:11
This the strategy that is very common and typically used for long term projects is to. 00:24:12
Fund with. 00:24:18
Issuing debt. 00:24:19
But there was additional detail. 00:24:21
That. 00:24:22
Nathan would be better equipped. Our finance director would be better equipped to share at this time. 00:24:24
I will try to be brief. 00:24:32
A lot of the information we shared at the the. 00:24:35
The Finance Committee and also at the Executive Committee. 00:24:37
I had already been presented or in part had been presented. 00:24:42
To this body. 00:24:46
We tried to present it just with a little bit more detail. 00:24:47
To the specific question, though, regarding financial planning and thinking forward into the future. 00:24:51
As you evaluate the amendment. 00:24:58
That you're. 00:25:00
Try again as you're evaluating the amendments that you have before you today. 00:25:04
It is important to think about. 00:25:09
Whether these funds are one time funds? 00:25:12
Or whether these will assist us moving forward? 00:25:14
And. 00:25:18
A lot of the. 00:25:20
One comment that I was not here to make at I believe you're the meeting on the 30th was regarding bond ratings. 00:25:22
Specifically, you want to show. 00:25:29
Good financial planning that you're not just looking at the short term trying to fill holes. 00:25:33
And so draining down fund balance. 00:25:38
At a significant amount. 00:25:41
Can actually be detrimental. 00:25:42
To your. 00:25:44
Bond ratings in the future? 00:25:46
That. 00:25:49
Really, what you're wanting to show and you're wanting to demonstrate is that you're thinking. 00:25:49
Forward, and not just in the current, the now. 00:25:54
Into today. 00:25:57
And so. 00:26:00
I think that sums up. 00:26:01
And I'm willing to answer more questions if there are specific questions regarding that. 00:26:03
But in general, what we've tried to show is we've tried to show the history. 00:26:09
And of the past. 00:26:14
Generally speaking, your capital projects that you're doing this year even in the base budget? 00:26:15
Is similar to what you did last year and in 2024. 00:26:21
It just. 00:26:25
You're limited on your ability. A large portion of what you're funding this year is through grants. 00:26:26
And in prior years, you had ARPA to support you? 00:26:33
With that drying up. 00:26:36
It's made it more difficult and so. 00:26:38
I hopefully I addressed. 00:26:40
What you're looking for? 00:26:43
Could you just share the perception? 00:26:44
Share the presents again, remind everybody I'm talking about and how much the supervisor stager are you wanting to talk about 00:26:46
this? 00:26:49
Amendment or? 00:26:54
I have one more, one more comment actually. 00:26:55
If I for the. 00:26:58
For the detail that was requested, I'm just asking for the the current budget scenario. 00:27:00
Talking about when we're discussing wages, the impact that wages have overall, which I know. 00:27:05
Is very limited. 00:27:10
But could you just share those percentages to wrap up that comment? 00:27:11
Yes, so. 00:27:15
We, we shared with you revenues and the percentage that the revenues cover operating costs. So currently right now. 00:27:16
Your highest portion of of revenue coverage. 00:27:24
Is in your charges for services at almost 50 percent 49. 00:27:27
.5% of your expenses are covered by charges for services. 00:27:32
Your property tax. 00:27:38
I showed the history 10 years ago was closer to 30%. It's now. 00:27:40
Down at 2222.5%. 00:27:45
Your grants. 00:27:49
At its peak like 3 years ago, primarily because of ARPA was at 21% but now is at 14.1%. 00:27:51
And sales tax covers about 6%. 00:27:59
Of your operating budget. 00:28:02
And so one of the comments that I've I made in the past is that. 00:28:04
Whenever you cut expenses to try to cover. 00:28:08
You know, try to shift dollars. 00:28:13
That, uh. 00:28:15
It's really only impacting. 00:28:17
Property tax. 00:28:19
20%. 00:28:20
It's it's $0.20 on the dollar. 00:28:21
And so when we look at reducing salaries or wages. 00:28:24
While we can say the total dollar amount, we could apply. 00:28:28
Really, when it comes down to it, a lot of your wages are covered because of charges for services. 00:28:31
Grants and sales tax and those other funding sources. 00:28:37
Supervisor Steger. 00:28:43
Thank you. Mr. Chairman. What is the current? 00:28:46
Interest rate on borrowing. 00:28:49
That was an estimate the other night, then was arranged from 2.4 to. 00:28:52
For roughly I. 00:28:58
Supervisor Hedrick. 00:29:04
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and also. 00:29:06
Administrator and. 00:29:09
Our finance director. One other thing I would like to add, I was had the the. 00:29:11
Opportunity to be at groundbreaking for Habitat for Humanity and Watertown. 00:29:16
They're going to build a. 00:29:21
12 duplexes, 6 duplexes, 12 units. 00:29:24
Bringing. 00:29:28
Bringing people into water town, families into Watertown, students into the schools. 00:29:29
And this was. 00:29:35
Partially possible because of the Community grant. 00:29:37
Granting that Dodge County did. There was a road that has to be put through and they needed that extra push over the top. 00:29:40
And. 00:29:48
So Dodge County helped make that happen. 00:29:49
As they have with a lot of other projects this year. 00:29:52
Thank you. 00:29:55
Supervisor. 00:29:57
Thank you. 00:29:59
I would just like to. 00:29:59
Go a little farther with. 00:30:02
Supervisor jurors comment with a. 00:30:03
The. 00:30:06
Pay issue here where they're reducing salaries. 00:30:07
I'd like to say that this is. 00:30:11
Clarity. 00:30:13
Is that? 00:30:14
This is. 00:30:15
Only for certain groups. 00:30:15
The ones that are longer term in the open range. 00:30:17
So it isn't. 00:30:20
All of the. 00:30:22
People. 00:30:23
Employees. Excuse me. 00:30:24
Getting the 2 1/2% step increase, is that correct? 00:30:26
That is correct. 00:30:29
Super Major Hochen. 00:30:33
Thank you. 00:30:34
I was at the. 00:30:36
The county convention. 00:30:38
I talked to several. 00:30:40
Counties. 00:30:41
Like about 8. 00:30:43
And they are not giving their employees more than two point something percent. 00:30:44
Under 3. 00:30:48
And I want us to remember we are not giving our. 00:30:49
We are giving our employees. 00:30:52
A race, They're all getting a raise. A cost of giving a raise. 00:30:54
Also. 00:30:58
When they you also have to remember that next year, whatever we give them in this step, it continues. So is that like you take it 00:31:00
away the next year, so. 00:31:04
We are adding to. 00:31:09
What we need to fund? 00:31:11
In future years. 00:31:12
So we have to. 00:31:14
We have to consider that. 00:31:15
And our employees are great and I do think we treat them very well. 00:31:17
We're picking up an extra half percent of their health care. 00:31:21
When they go to their doctor, we have put money in their Hsas. 00:31:25
Or. 00:31:29
Those accounts? 00:31:30
Pay for their deductible. 00:31:32
So we we pay. 00:31:33
Marched further to. 00:31:36
Deductible to have. 00:31:37
Insurance, then we pay when they go to the doctor, we pay that deductible. 00:31:39
So. 00:31:43
We are treating our employees. 00:31:44
Quite well. 00:31:46
Thank you. 00:31:47
OK, looks like we are. 00:31:49
Ready to vote? 00:31:51
And if you agree with the amendment to fund Highway P. 00:31:53
With as. 00:31:58
In in the. 00:32:00
Amended. 00:32:01
Paper. 00:32:03
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 00:32:04
Supervisor Freebault. 00:32:16
Yes. 00:32:18
All having voted it. 00:32:21
Fails 5 to 25. 00:32:23
OK. 00:32:27
We're back on the amendments in order, starting with #1. 00:32:30
Nope, that's now #2 no #2 OK. 00:32:33
So it's number one on the agenda #1 on the agenda now #2 which is. 00:32:37
That's. 00:32:42
County Trunk Highway P7. 00:32:45
.4 miles. 00:32:47
I'm not going to read the entire thing. 00:32:51
But that will be a motion by Krause and a second by Kiel, which we will enter. 00:32:54
OK, so those are entered. 00:33:18
Supervisor Krause, as the maker, would you like to speak? 00:33:21
There we go. Should be on. 00:33:28
I'm not going to read through the whole amendment, we've all had it for quite some time. 00:33:31
You see what roads that? 00:33:35
Myself and Karen are proposing to do and how many lane miles, the length of the project and where the where we anticipate the 00:33:36
money coming from. 00:33:39
And my Co sponsor this amendment because it's time to address our Rd. needs. 00:33:43
I believe we have come. 00:33:46
Have become complacent. They're not looking down the road. 00:33:47
To the future and impact of our highway infrastructure. 00:33:51
We have a goal to do 20 miles a year of road work. 00:33:54
If we do nothing and just do what is in the current budget, we are falling way behind. 00:33:56
I know borrowing money right now doesn't sit well with all of us. 00:34:01
We have other projects that communications and facilities that need to be addressed. 00:34:04
And the possibility of having. 00:34:08
The possibility of. 00:34:10
Having to borrow money for those projects is a reality down the road. 00:34:11
I realized that some of you would like to see a long range plan for Broward. 00:34:16
And I do too. 00:34:19
But I don't think pushing Rd. Brian off to get that done first is. 00:34:20
The reason I say that is I believe that I believe we all know that Road Browing will be in that plan. 00:34:24
If you don't think Rd. borrowing is necessary to maintain our roads at the goals we have said, I would like to hear your ideas. 00:34:30
We relied on ARPA money to take care of some of our Rd. needs in the past and unfortunately that is not an option now. 00:34:37
You all know that we can only love you so much a year. 00:34:43
That percentage is way less than what the the inflationary rate is. 00:34:46
I talked to one of my fellow supervisors in a neighboring county. 00:34:50
He said their cost of doing roads year after year increases between 12 to 14%. 00:34:53
I asked our former highway commissioner about our inflate what our inflationary rate was. 00:34:58
He told me off the cuff it was 8%. 00:35:03
A year. 00:35:06
We can certainly borrow money cheaper than 8%. 00:35:07
Per year to do our roads. 00:35:09
It's saving US money and keeps us on track to maintain our goal of 20 plus miles per year. 00:35:11
I also feel that this sends a message to our constituents in the highway department. They were committed to improve our highway 00:35:16
infrastructure and looking long term on the benefits of this investment. 00:35:21
In my short tenure on the Dodge County Board of four years and my long tenure on the Town of Kalamazoo Board of 29 years. 00:35:26
The majority of the complaints are maybe for a better term. Concerns is always about our roadways and public safety. 00:35:32
Because quote, that's what they pay taxes for. 00:35:38
The county highway DE bridge. 00:35:41
Project is a prime example. 00:35:43
That we addressed recently. 00:35:45
So I know that there will be people upset that we borrow money. 00:35:48
But there will also be people happy that we are borrowing and addressing our shortfall. 00:35:50
Shortfalls in our road infrastructure. 00:35:54
Another thing to consider is our transportation aid. 00:35:56
That is based on a three-year average. 00:35:59
If we start cutting back on how much we spend on roads, we'll get this lesson aid, and that is just not for one. 00:36:01
But it's several. 00:36:07
Borrowing for roads, buildings, et cetera is not an uncommon thing. 00:36:09
Many municipalities do it. 00:36:13
I have done it in my own town. 00:36:15
If done right, it is a good tool to have in your tool belt. 00:36:16
We have an opportunity today to do something great for Dodge County by supporting this amendment. 00:36:20
Something we're celebrating. 00:36:25
Committing to do 40 plus miles of Rd. in the next two years. 00:36:27
Think about that. 00:36:30
40 plus miles. 00:36:31
If we don't. 00:36:33
If we don't, we're kicking the can down the road again and we'll be having the same conversation again next year at this time. 00:36:34
Remember, 40 plus miles were the next two years. 00:36:40
Something that we all can be proud of. 00:36:42
Thank you. 00:36:44
Supervisor Cavazanjan. 00:36:47
Yes, thank you. 00:36:49
I appreciate this amendment very much. 00:36:50
Because it does address my concerns about roads and it also covers some of the future engineering. 00:36:53
And. 00:37:00
Bridge designs, however. 00:37:01
I would propose an amendment. 00:37:03
To this resolution. 00:37:06
To lower the. 00:37:08
Debt borrowing that's in here from 8 million to 9.5 million, from 9 five to 8, I believe yes to 8 from 9.5. 00:37:10
Do you have that in writing? 00:37:21
Yes. 00:37:23
Thank you. In addition, I wanted to take the. 00:37:24
1.5 million from the community development grants and put that towards roads and I have it. 00:37:27
Written down. 00:37:34
You perfect. 00:37:36
Thank you. 00:37:42
We'll get that typed in. 00:37:49
Is there a second for that? 00:37:51
And we got to got to get it in here first. 00:37:59
Get it typed in quick. 00:38:03
So it's actually going to be Amendment A to Amendment 2. 00:38:46
So we're going to do a. 00:38:51
Amendment 2 as. 00:39:09
Is the space dash dash? 00:39:13
Hit OK. 00:39:31
Do we have OK the the motion to amend was by Supervisor Cabazonjan. Do I have a second to that? 00:39:36
Yeah, yeah, the second by Supervisor Keel. 00:39:46
Nope, Klobuchar put it in. 00:39:49
Klobuchar got ahead of OK. 00:39:51
Second by Supervisor Klobuchar. 00:39:54
OK, discussion on the amendment. 00:39:58
The amendment to the amendment. 00:40:01
Anybody want to speak to the? 00:40:04
Amendment. Umm. 00:40:06
Supervisor clock on. 00:40:09
I think we're nearsighted on this. 00:40:11
Where you guys spent a decade trying to get an enterprise fund going? 00:40:13
And now, at first sight of trouble, you want to bleed it dry. 00:40:18
That doesn't make any sense to me. If we're not planning for the future, what the hell are we doing here? 00:40:21
You're you're right now you're planning for the future, but you're planning on a near sight of the future, something short term 00:40:26
that's going to. 00:40:28
Net you what, a couple miles Rd. 00:40:31
You got to think about why we put that fund in place in the first place. 00:40:34
You got a plan for the future. You. 00:40:38
People were just talking about. 00:40:40
Watertown talking about bringing Is this to the. 00:40:42
It is because. 00:40:46
Because if you're gonna bleed. 00:40:48
$2,000,000 out of. 00:40:50
Out of that fund, I'm not going to ever vote for anything that takes money out of that fund. It'd be like saying let's take money 00:40:52
out of Clearview, let's take money out of. 00:40:55
You know, some other. 00:40:59
Enterprise Air Group. 00:41:00
It doesn't make sense to me so. 00:41:02
I'm not going to vote for anything that has anything to do with taking money out of that enterprise fund you guys spent. 00:41:04
Years trying to get money in there. You finally got money in there, now you're going to take it out. 00:41:09
I I'm against it so. 00:41:13
Thank you. 00:41:14
Supervisor Guckenberger. 00:41:16
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:41:19
I don't understand the wisdom of. 00:41:21
Borrowing money. 00:41:23
Just so we can put it into a community Development Fund and then give it away, as I've said before. 00:41:24
Good roads are also good economic development. If we don't have good roads, we're not going to have people wanting to come here 00:41:31
and build and build homes and live here. 00:41:36
The the roads are as much a priority as anything. 00:41:42
We don't do priority budgeting here. That's that's what I'm seeing here today. 00:41:45
We didn't put the roads as the top of the list. We're putting them here at the bottom. Matter of fact, they're beyond the bottom. 00:41:51
Because we got board members sitting here at the budget meeting trying to put money back into the budget. 00:41:57
In order to cover for our roads, that's what we're doing here today. There's. 00:42:03
4 amendments that are trying to address the road problem. 00:42:07
You know the administrator didn't bring the plan forward. 00:42:10
No, we. 00:42:14
We put the roads at the very bottom, we took everything else and we covered that and now what you see here is some. 00:42:15
Board members. 00:42:23
Trying to fix that problem. 00:42:24
The roads are priority for us. This is the way to fund it. Any way I look at it is if we're going to be borrowing money. 00:42:26
And then just give. 00:42:34
Now would be. 00:42:36
Still 500,000 dollars 541,000 as I would see it in the budget. 00:42:39
For community development, she didn't take the whole thing out. 00:42:44
What she's proposing to take. 00:42:47
3/4 of it out. 00:42:48
And put it into the roads. 00:42:50
Which everyone in this room seems to think like roads are a priority. 00:42:52
Until it comes time to pay for them. 00:42:55
Supervisor Conway. 00:43:00
Thank you, Mr. Chair, in regards to the amendment. 00:43:02
First off. 00:43:05
I agree with my. 00:43:06
Colleague that. 00:43:07
Community development is a very important part. 00:43:09
Of our county. 00:43:13
We are. 00:43:15
And county that is aging. 00:43:16
And we? 00:43:18
Really need to start to bring people into the county. 00:43:20
I also have an issue that. 00:43:25
We seem to be going back and forth between. 00:43:28
What is considered a capital budget? 00:43:31
Which is long term. 00:43:33
And what is operational? 00:43:35
The Community development is part of of an operational budget. 00:43:38
I understand that they all are in the same pie, but there's a lot of ingredients to fill that. 00:43:42
To make that pie. 00:43:46
And the two of them, I learned a long time ago, really. 00:43:48
And maybe I'm wrong. 00:43:52
But really should not be. 00:43:54
Crossed over. 00:43:57
1 is a long term. 00:43:58
One are things we can see, touch and feel for the next 10/15/20 years. 00:44:00
And one is just operations. And if we really truly have a problem with operations, we should address. 00:44:04
The operations budget. 00:44:11
And then again what is required by? 00:44:13
State statute and what is not. 00:44:16
Thank you, Sir. 00:44:18
Supervisor. 00:44:21
With regard to borrowing money, you know it was said that borrowing money is a reality down the road. 00:44:23
And it was. 00:44:28
Said that the road cost is 1415%. 00:44:29
And that the cost of borrowing is 4%. 00:44:33
So why on earth is that down the road? 00:44:37
It's not down the road. We should do this immediately. 00:44:40
And that is good long. 00:44:44
Infrastructure planning. 00:44:47
And I agree with the prior statements that borrowing and combining. 00:44:49
Operations. 00:44:55
And long term infrastructure. 00:44:56
And economic development and just. 00:44:59
Pretending they're all equal. 00:45:01
Doesn't make sense. 00:45:04
Also. 00:45:06
I don't know. 00:45:07
I admit where County P or these other roads, I don't know where they actually fit within the highway department budget, but it's 00:45:09
like we're deciding instead of the highway committee, which has a committee and has. 00:45:14
You know, a department head, we're deciding we're going to put this. 00:45:20
Road first. 00:45:23
And like, that's not. 00:45:25
Really. 00:45:27
Our job, right? That isn't even part of our job. 00:45:27
And so we can do this. 00:45:31
If long term. 00:45:34
If we do it thoughtfully. 00:45:35
And this last minute grabbing from Peter to pay Paul. 00:45:37
Is uh. 00:45:41
Almost. 00:45:42
Like borrowing as well, and it's. 00:45:44
In that it's thoughtless borrowing, it's impromptu borrowing. 00:45:46
Right. 00:45:50
Not the way. 00:45:51
To move forward and have people 20 years down the road go man, that board got it right. 00:45:53
They actually got this right. 00:45:59
People drive to our community. Last thing on supervisor Guggen Parker. 00:46:01
No one. 00:46:05
Comes and says wow this is a smooth Rd. I want to live here. People come here and they need housing. 00:46:06
And then there isn't enough housing and that economic fund. 00:46:12
Puts housing projects over the edge. If they can't get housing, they don't come here if they don't accept the jobs. 00:46:16
And that. 00:46:23
Affects the growth. 00:46:24
So robbing Peter to pay Paul means we still don't have enough roads down the road and we still end up with a housing shortage. 00:46:26
Immediately, it's just doesn't make sense. 00:46:32
Supervisor Steger. 00:46:36
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:46:39
What I'm going to say I want. 00:46:40
The supervisors of. 00:46:42
Stick that in their mind. 00:46:43
25 year plan. 00:46:45
Is way too long for roads. I said this. 00:46:48
How many times? 00:46:52
That you rebuild the road now? You telling me that 25 years from now? 00:46:53
That road is gonna. 00:46:58
Need replacing. I'm telling you're wrong. It's going to be. 00:47:00
15 to 20 years, if that much. 00:47:04
The way the salt goes on and the weather with the frost and all that, roads do not last 25 years. 00:47:07
Thank you. 00:47:15
Supervisor Keel. 00:47:17
Thank you. 00:47:21
I was. 00:47:24
The economic development. 00:47:25
Money is sales tax funded. 00:47:27
I'm not. 00:47:32
I think we should have some money. 00:47:33
In the economic development, I'm not against moving some of this, but. 00:47:35
Maybe not to roads because. 00:47:41
And replacing the debt. 00:47:46
Because we have. 00:47:48
Used everything. 00:47:50
In the. 00:47:52
Amendment. 00:47:53
The original amendment. 00:47:54
Supervisor Carlson and I. 00:47:58
Did hear everyone's? 00:48:00
Comments, many comments that. 00:48:03
Fund balance needs to be used and all that was taken into effect, but you know. 00:48:05
At this point we have. 00:48:10
Pillaged both the sales tax. 00:48:12
That has. 00:48:16
That is available. 00:48:18
And we have taken general fund to the point that. 00:48:19
We're at the top. 00:48:25
Yes. 00:48:26
In 2025 we may generate. 00:48:27
Some surplus fund balance? It's unknown at this time. I do believe it's projected that there is a surplus. 00:48:30
Through this budget process for 26. 00:48:39
But. 00:48:42
I we have. 00:48:44
Emergencies. 00:48:46
All during the year. 00:48:48
Like we just. 00:48:50
Did. 00:48:51
Bridge. 00:48:52
I believe was a general fund appropriation. 00:48:54
So I'm just saying we've. 00:48:58
Taken a lot and we. 00:49:00
Have. 00:49:01
I'd rather maybe see that available for an emergency fund. 00:49:03
Expense that comes up. 00:49:08
Thank you. 00:49:10
Supervisor Guckenburger. 00:49:12
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:49:16
Just want to provide a little. 00:49:17
Clarification on a couple of things. 00:49:19
This. 00:49:22
These amendments are not trying to micromanage or. 00:49:23
You know, as we've been accused here of not. 00:49:30
Allowing the. 00:49:32
Committee to do their recommendation or any of that stuff. 00:49:34
The road projects that were actually being popped off of the comprehensive plan. 00:49:37
Which was already approved by everybody in this room. 00:49:42
So it's not like we're just dreaming things up and saying, oh, I want to do highway in or I want to do highway P that there are 00:49:45
already on a list. 00:49:49
To be completed. 00:49:53
The very least that this whole body is already approved. 00:49:55
So take that whole argument and throw it aside. 00:49:58
OK, the other thing is I find it interesting that the. 00:50:01
The current community service projects. 00:50:04
Include roads. 00:50:08
Roads. Not for the town, or, excuse me, not for the county. 00:50:09
But roads for Waupun, roads for Watertown? 00:50:12
Roads for Fox Lake. 00:50:16
Roads for Beaver Dam. 00:50:18
These are the projects we're helping to complete. 00:50:20
Sure. 00:50:22
The roads support the housing. 00:50:23
But the roads that we have in our county are just as important. 00:50:25
To economic development. 00:50:28
As they are to the towns and the communities. 00:50:30
If if you were to say that this, this. 00:50:33
Grant of. 00:50:35
$500,000 that we're leaving in the budget is going to go and actually build homes. 00:50:36
That's one thing. 00:50:41
OK. But what we're supporting right now? 00:50:42
Are the roads. 00:50:45
In those communities. 00:50:46
In order for them. 00:50:48
To develop lots. 00:50:50
To sell for housing. 00:50:52
We're not building houses with these dollars in our community service fund, not at present. Matter of fact, some of the money 00:50:53
went. 00:50:56
To parks. 00:51:00
And I'm not objecting to any of that because I was involved in all of that. 00:51:01
And as an exact a member of the executive committee. 00:51:05
I was also involved. 00:51:08
But what I see is the need. The need is for Dodge County. 00:51:10
To to do the best it can for our roads and. 00:51:14
That's the priority that I see today. 00:51:18
Put it into the roads, put it into our highways. 00:51:20
And not. 00:51:23
Borrow $2,000,000. 00:51:24
So we can give it to. 00:51:26
The other communities. 00:51:28
Thank you. 00:51:30
OK, we are ready to vote on the. 00:51:32
Amendment to a. 00:51:35
If you agree to take funds from. 00:51:37
Community development of 1.5 and shift to highway. 00:51:41
Please vote yes if you do not. 00:51:44
Please vote no. 00:51:46
Supervisor Free Vault. 00:52:03
Yes. 00:52:06
All having voted, it fails 9 to 21. 00:52:09
So now we are back to amendment number. 00:52:13
Two as originally stated. 00:52:16
Correct. And we've already had a lot of discussion about that. Is there any other any more discussion? 00:52:20
And close. 00:52:29
All right. 00:52:33
OK. 00:52:39
All of you that are in. 00:52:41
Are wanting to go to the original amendment. 00:52:42
Supervisor Durr. 00:52:46
Are you? 00:52:48
I need to speak on the. 00:52:49
OK, Supervisor Clocko. 00:52:54
These are all back from before. 00:52:57
And you want to speak again on. 00:53:00
Original amendment. 00:53:02
Supervisor Van Design. 00:53:06
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 00:53:10
Just. 00:53:13
Question on the 44.2 lane miles. 00:53:14
In the budget right now, I think we have 8.1. 00:53:19
That are already it. 00:53:22
Allocated for roads. 00:53:24
So the ones that are suggested here. 00:53:26
Would add. 00:53:30
23.1 miles, so we'd actually be doing 31.2 miles this year. 00:53:31
As I see it. 00:53:37
Yes, and. 00:53:38
Do they know what the other 21.1 miles are that they're? 00:53:40
Proposing for these projects or is that just an estimate? 00:53:44
The the. 00:53:48
Well, I could let Supervisor Krause but it. 00:53:50
Basically, it funds all of. 00:53:52
Roads in the CIP for this year. 00:53:55
And puts 12. 00:53:58
$6 million for 12 Mile Elsa Rd. Into. 00:54:00
The 27 budget. 00:54:03
Actually, there there's. 00:54:06
21.1 miles difference if you add up the miles that they have listed in there. 00:54:08
It comes to 44.2 I believe. 00:54:14
For the two years. 00:54:18
Yeah, I just was wondering what? 00:54:19
The ones that are listed there, unless my math is wrong, the ones they have listed is. 00:54:21
Is. 00:54:25
23.1. 00:54:27
Saw that 44.2 minus that. 00:54:28
Gives you 21.1. 00:54:32
So I just was wondering if they had. 00:54:35
An idea of what the all the other miles were for. 00:54:37
All of it. Go ahead, super razor crows. 00:54:42
Gotta get you well. The other miles would be just for future projects. For 2027 the highway department has a five year Rd. plan 00:54:45
that they try to fall as close as possible. 00:54:49
You know, it's a fluid plan just like anything else. Sometimes it varies on what we get for grant money and stuff like that, so. 00:54:53
It's there to get the funding out there, so it's readily available and we're not having this conversation again next year at this 00:54:59
time. 00:55:03
But I believe the. 00:55:07
There's 32. 00:55:09
Miles funded this year. 00:55:11
In this plan. 00:55:12
Neighbor all on the CIP and that leaves 12 miles for next year. 00:55:15
To be determined. 00:55:19
OK. 00:55:22
And besides this fact of. 00:55:29
12 miles for next year and we have a a 25 mile per year. 00:55:34
So then we're going to have to come up with 13, we have a 22 mile per year and this funds. 00:55:39
44 miles in 26. 00:55:44
And 27 together. 00:55:46
OK. Thank you. 00:55:51
Supervisor Conway, were you on? 00:55:55
Supervisor Conway, are you on this? 00:55:59
Original amendment. 00:56:01
Supervisor Kane. 00:56:04
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, just for the benefit of our newer. 00:56:06
Members and just to refresh the memory of. 00:56:10
Of those of us that were on the board. 00:56:13
The highway committee back in 2020. 00:56:15
Consulted with a company called Community Perceptions that does surveys. 00:56:18
For communities and schools to determine. 00:56:23
What? 00:56:26
Voters would accept as far as. 00:56:27
For bonding and for different things. 00:56:29
Of of that. 00:56:32
There were 672 respondents to that survey. 00:56:33
Of which 57.8% of the respondents said they would. 00:56:37
Be willing to. 00:56:42
Bond for at least 12. 00:56:43
$1,000,000 of roads. 00:56:45
40.2% said they would do 18. 00:56:47
Million. 00:56:49
So this is considered statistically significant. 00:56:51
IE if a referendum was to be taken. 00:56:54
With those same questions. 00:56:57
The likelihood would be. 00:56:59
That they that it would pass. 00:57:01
Another point, Dodge County is one of two counties in the state without a debt service levy. So apparently 70 other counties in 00:57:03
the state think it's an OK idea. 00:57:08
Our per capita debt is $81. 00:57:12
And the state average is $539 of debt per capita. So I see no reason that we don't should not. 00:57:16
Move forward with this. 00:57:23
This amendment and. 00:57:24
Work to getting our roads fixed and. 00:57:26
Get on a on a decent. 00:57:28
Trajectory for future projects and. 00:57:30
Support this please. 00:57:33
Supervisor Johnson. 00:57:38
Yes, I will be speaking against this amendment. I think there are good things in it, but I think the timing's off. It's missing 00:57:41
some key critical elements. 00:57:44
And I think there's an alternative that can meet all the goals of it. 00:57:48
I think this amendment is good in the fact that it does meet the funding addressing their roles and we absolutely I agree with 00:57:52
that and going over 20 miles a year, it recognizes the need that tax levy will be needed for long term sustainable strategy to 00:57:57
fund roads. That's I think that's I do agree with that. 00:58:02
And invested the excess fund balance, which we do need. We're not a business. We're the government and that's the people's money 00:58:08
and it should be applied to rolls. I agree with that. I agree with shifting the debt payments to use from the sales tax to the 00:58:12
levy without adding debt. 00:58:16
Those are all very good things. However, I think the timing is off. 00:58:21
It's not the right time to issue bond debt right now. 00:58:24
But it will be soon. 00:58:27
The missing elements this This plan does not include a sustainable debt repayment plan. 00:58:29
Before needing additional dollars beyond the two years. 00:58:34
Constituents clearly are not interested in stacking debt. 00:58:38
So what I'm saying is, is that year 3? 00:58:41
If this is a 10 year bond in year 3, we're going to have to borrow again. 00:58:43
I don't think that's a great plan or year five. I'm looking at 10 years out in 10 years I want to do. 00:58:48
200. 00:58:53
200 miles of roads or 20 years. 00:58:54
400 miles. 00:58:57
County Board has not yet determined its long term strategy in my view. I have not discussed it with anybody. We have not. We've 00:58:59
started discussions at at at executive, but we have not gone through. 00:59:04
Most counties have a. 00:59:08
Plan to for sustainable Rd. funding that's included in their budget. The this county board to my knowledge has not determined its 00:59:09
long term strategy to fund yearly goal. 00:59:14
Of 22 miles, it says this goal is 22 miles. 00:59:19
But it doesn't say how to do it. 00:59:22
For example, Price County. 00:59:24
They do a wheel tax. 00:59:25
And then they borrow short term and then they pay it off and then they do it again. So they just keep, keep. So every year in the 00:59:27
budget it's indexed and it's sustainable. 00:59:31
Otherwise, they're going to be right back here in two years or three years. Future boards will be here. 00:59:35
We have a We are missing information on the upcoming big projects, the physical facilities. These are these are the. 00:59:40
Biggest things that this county's ever faced. 00:59:45
Far as dollars go, the most we've ever borrowed before is 44 million. Here we're looking at building, maybe a new building, a huge 00:59:49
repair, we don't know. We haven't got the study back. We're looking at spending 40, but over $40 million for our radios. 00:59:54
These are huge, huge things. 01:00:00
In the context of the 20. 01:00:02
10/20/30 year. 01:00:05
What's our long term debt strategy? We haven't really talked about it about layering our debt. We still owe some money until 2031. 01:00:06
Our payments are still pretty big right now in my judgment. 01:00:11
How are we going to layer that debt? 01:00:16
How is it going to fit? What are we going to fit the radio in? How we going to fit the building in? The roads are a small part and 01:00:19
that needs to be handled every single year. It has to be a 10 year plan, a 20 year plan, not doing a plan. This. I'm glad they're 01:00:24
doing something, but then in three years from now being back to this. 01:00:29
That's not a plan. 01:00:35
We are called by our legislature to plan to. 01:00:36
Strategically to get. 01:00:40
Like I said. 01:00:42
200 miles of roads in 10 years, not just one short term thing. 01:00:43
I believe the county board needs time to fill the missing, to find these missing and get these missing elements and that will 01:00:48
bring clarity to all of us to make sure that the county board gets it right, not only for next year. 01:00:53
But for the for the many years ahead. 01:01:00
And I believe there is an amendment that will address this. 01:01:01
Thank you. 01:01:04
Supervisor Houchin. 01:01:06
Thank you. I agree with supervisor. 01:01:07
Johnson. 01:01:10
I he he hit it on the. 01:01:12
And now I have a couple questions about this. 01:01:14
Are we borrowing the second year now? Is that the plan? 01:01:17
Because we don't know what interest. 01:01:21
Rates, if they're going up or they're going down, so how do you address that? 01:01:23
I'd like to know how this differs from what the administration was talking about when I watched the exact. 01:01:28
Committee, you said it wasn't the same, so I'd like to know what that. 01:01:33
And just because we. 01:01:37
Can borrow doesn't mean we should borrow. 01:01:39
I think part of our problem is we get our budget too late. 01:01:44
What I was at? 01:01:47
Conference. Some of those people have already voted on their budget for next year. 01:01:48
I don't know why we wait so late. 01:01:53
When we know that the deadline to put it in is like the 15th or something, it's like it. 01:01:55
Three days we have to have this budget or we get fine. 01:01:59
Why do we wait so late? 01:02:03
And I blame that on. 01:02:05
And the planning on? 01:02:06
The powers to be. This needs to be done. 01:02:07
We need to know. 01:02:10
I mean, we didn't even get the budget. 01:02:12
You know till. 01:02:14
Talked over. 01:02:15
Let's get this budget out earlier and and have some of these talks that. 01:02:16
That Mister Johnson's talking about. 01:02:20
I agree with that So. 01:02:22
That's all. Thanks. 01:02:24
Supervisor. 01:02:26
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:02:28
You know, we as a county board did. 01:02:31
Approved this resolution that. 01:02:33
22 miles has to be. 01:02:35
Donna each year just to stay solvent from where we're at. 01:02:36
When we passed, when we talked about this at committee and we. 01:02:40
Passed it to come to. 01:02:43
The board for approval. 01:02:44
After we agreed that we need to do this 22 miles, you know, at that time, we told. 01:02:46
The county administrator. 01:02:51
That we need to come up with long term plan. This is already a year ago. 01:02:53
That we need to come up with, talk to our financial experts to come up with a. 01:02:56
A debt service levy? If so, be it. 01:02:59
That we can do a long term plan. 01:03:02
And as last month, we still don't have the plan. 01:03:04
You know it's not the highway committees job. 01:03:06
Because you know. 01:03:09
Been told we're only a policy making body now. 01:03:11
After 40 years of doing it a certain way, now it's been changed. I don't know if you guys know that. 01:03:14
However. 01:03:20
You know, as of as of this last month, we still don't have a long term plan and it's not the committees job to. 01:03:21
Come up with financing. 01:03:27
For the roads, that's finance job or. 01:03:28
The city. 01:03:31
Are not city the county's finance department to come up with long term plan and that comes at. 01:03:32
The expanse of talking to our experts, which is Ailers or other financial institutions that's come up with a plan. 01:03:37
We haven't did this. 01:03:43
And and who's who's? 01:03:45
We could probably look at a lot of people to blame. We could blame ourself, you know? 01:03:47
I'm frustrated. 01:03:53
This is one of the reasons not running. 01:03:54
Again. 01:03:56
Because I've come up with four or five different. 01:03:57
Ways that highway to come up with savings. 01:03:59
To do a long term plan. 01:04:02
Because. 01:04:04
Our roads aren't last as long as they are because. 01:04:05
They're using it a. 01:04:07
Of insufficient product. 01:04:08
I mean over the course of the. 01:04:11
How many years now? 01:04:12
Asphalt companies have figured out a way to. 01:04:13
Make the. 01:04:16
Pavement lasts only certain long and then we have to redo them. 01:04:17
I mean, this is all by design. 01:04:20
But you know, I'm frustrated and I respect all of my colleagues here tonight. 01:04:22
That. 01:04:27
Have you know you all have good ideas, right? 01:04:29
But you know, we need to come up long term plan and we just we, we have failed. 01:04:32
We have failed the taxpayers of Dodge County. 01:04:36
Thank you. 01:04:39
Supervisor clock on. 01:04:42
Let me just do a hypothetical here once. 01:04:44
Because that sounds like whatever I'm hearing from everybody and I'm looking at all the amendments and. 01:04:47
You know. 01:04:51
There's another option, and the option is do nothing. 01:04:52
Which would put us back to what we're currently doing. 01:04:55
Are 22 miles of roads a year? 01:04:58
But. 01:05:00
If we switched. 01:05:01
The roads that we're doing. 01:05:02
And I'm just hypothetically thinking here. 01:05:04
If you did all of our D's and all of our F roads. 01:05:06
In the in the next two years, that would leave us with seas. 01:05:09
An average Rd. Strata entire county. 01:05:14
If we. 01:05:16
Couldn't do all of the DS and the FS in the county then borrow to finish that. But then after they were done you would have a 01:05:17
moratorium on spending money for probably another year or two until our seas have to turn into D's and have to be replaced. 01:05:23
There's other ways to think about this other than spending our way out of it. 01:05:30
By borrowing. 01:05:34
And I mean, I just came up with that off the cuff and I don't know if that's even actual or factual or anything, but. 01:05:36
It seems to me like if we have roads that were. 01:05:43
Doing that or sees. 01:05:45
And we still have DS and FS out there. We should get those taken care of first. 01:05:48
Thank you. 01:05:52
Supervisor. 01:05:54
I I think it's. 01:05:59
I'm hoping we just stop talk about. 01:06:00
Who's to blame? 01:06:02
And start working on moving forward and. 01:06:03
Problem solving. 01:06:05
And and one of the reasons I think it's been really hard. 01:06:07
To propose. 01:06:10
Long term financial debt structure planning is because at every meeting. 01:06:12
Several people like, well, we shouldn't borrow. 01:06:17
We shouldn't borrow, right? So it's really hard. 01:06:19
To actually. 01:06:22
Come up with a really good long term plan, which by the way should be a rotating 5 year plan, right? 01:06:23
I mean, a 20 year plan would. 01:06:29
Like be a problem. 01:06:31
If there's a recession in year 8. 01:06:33
But regardless, even doing that. 01:06:36
We need to be all on board as. 01:06:40
As a board that this is a long term plan that we're going to do this and we're going to figure out how much we want to borrow and 01:06:42
how many years and what the rotating thing is. 01:06:46
And I think. 01:06:51
I could be wrong, but I think there's a little bit. 01:06:52
Of nervousness when. 01:06:55
So many of us are like, well, I'm not gonna borrow. I don't think we should borrow. Like look in our wallet and we. 01:06:56
We buy our house. 01:07:00
You know, and I say you don't buy your house in cash. 01:07:02
You. 01:07:04
Because it's a big piece of infrastructure for your revenue, right? 01:07:05
So. 01:07:09
I do feel like if we could. 01:07:11
The majority of us get on board the. 01:07:12
This is the way 70 other counties fund long term projects and that we as a county have an enormous number of roads. We're a big 01:07:15
county and we have a very low tax base. 01:07:22
We don't have. 01:07:28
Oconomowoc or Milwaukee or the suburbs. We we have Dodge County residents and it's. 01:07:30
We're not a super high income county. 01:07:35
So that's another reason. 01:07:38
Compared to all other counties, we should be financing it, right? Our tax base can't bear this burden. 01:07:40
So I'm going to vote against the amendments and I'm strongly going to be in favor of whatever long term planning the county and 01:07:46
along with the administrator. 01:07:50
Try to do to come up with a good plan. 01:07:55
That. 01:07:57
That finances as many roads as people feel we can sufficiently finance. 01:07:58
But robbing Peter to pay? 01:08:03
All that's what these amendments are doing, and I'm not going to vote for them. 01:08:05
Supervisor Steiger. 01:08:10
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I am for this amendment just. 01:08:11
Because it would buy us two years worth of. 01:08:16
Roads at 22.1 miles per year. 01:08:19
And also give us two years. 01:08:23
To set up a long term. 01:08:26
Plan if we. 01:08:28
Don't vote this in now. 01:08:30
What is our? 01:08:31
Plan. 01:08:33
Thank you. 01:08:34
Supervisor Krause. 01:08:36
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just. 01:08:38
You know, I, I respect everyone's opinions and. 01:08:39
And everything else. But we got to do something. We kick it down the road another year. 01:08:43
And then it goes up again another 8. 01:08:47
10/12/14 percent, whatever that number is, and we're sitting in the same spot. 01:08:49
We know all of us sitting here know it's coming down the road eventually. 01:08:55
And there's going to be more borrowing coming for roads. There's more borrowing that we might probably get, like I said earlier, 01:09:00
going to need to do with the with the. 01:09:03
With the buildings and our radios and. 01:09:06
All this, but we got to start somewhere. We just can't sit here and. 01:09:08
Not do nothing and hope next year is going to bring. 01:09:12
Better we're killing ourselves. Sometimes I think we're looking. 01:09:15
Too much in the short term to try to save a penny today, but it's costing U.S. dollars down the road. 01:09:19
So I please encourage you just to. 01:09:25
You know, to pass this amendment and let's get something started that we can hang our hat on and say we actually did some good 01:09:27
today. 01:09:30
Thank you. 01:09:34
Supervisor Keel. 01:09:36
Thank you. 01:09:38
I wanted to add. 01:09:40
For I think it was Supervisor Van de Sandy. 01:09:43
When you talked about the total miles that were being done, remember that there will be another. 01:09:47
2027 Budget. 01:09:52
Adoption with the. 01:09:54
Grants and transportation aids and everything that will. 01:09:56
And sales tax like we? 01:10:01
Have done this year. 01:10:03
To fill to that 44.2 it's saying that. 01:10:05
We would be borrowing $6 million. 01:10:09
For supplementing. 01:10:13
Those. 01:10:15
Normal. 01:10:16
Funding sources. 01:10:17
For 2027. 01:10:19
And I wanted to add that I. 01:10:22
Totally agree that we need. 01:10:24
As supervisor Johnson talked about the long range planning, the layering of. 01:10:27
Debt, but this. 01:10:32
And and with our other needs. 01:10:35
That's the. 01:10:37
Big thing that is here is. 01:10:38
What we see on the horizon. 01:10:41
And how? 01:10:43
We are going to be able to. 01:10:44
Fund those. 01:10:46
Projects. 01:10:47
We need something though. 01:10:50
More than 9 miles. 01:10:52
Or so that's in the current budget and I. 01:10:54
Do not feel adopting. 01:10:58
The budget. 01:11:00
As it is without more roads. 01:11:01
Is also irresponsible for us. 01:11:04
As a board. 01:11:07
And one other thing that when you compare us with other counties. 01:11:09
I know I've heard this for years. 01:11:13
That. 01:11:15
Dodge County has more. 01:11:16
County Lane Miles. 01:11:18
Than any other county in the state. 01:11:21
And we're not the largest by size and we're not the largest. 01:11:24
By population, so it. 01:11:28
Impacts. 01:11:30
Our levy requirements. 01:11:32
Per capita. 01:11:35
So. 01:11:36
Thank you. 01:11:37
I'm going to take such supervisor frivolous on the phone. 01:11:39
I am against this amendment. 01:11:44
For the very reasons that. 01:11:47
Supervisor Johnson mentioned. 01:11:50
I think he was really well spoken on that. 01:11:52
We, I feel like we're blindfolded and we're in the dark and we're just trying to. 01:11:55
Grasp a quick solution to solve a long term problem and we're going to head down a path without a without a plan. 01:12:00
And it's going to be a very dangerous one. 01:12:07
And so that's why I'm against this amendment. 01:12:09
And I hope that you will join myself in. 01:12:12
Supervisor Johnson and voting against it. 01:12:16
Supervisor Grukenberger, one more time, thank. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it. 01:12:20
Although it's a long time ago that Mister Johnson gave his comments, I I feel. 01:12:26
I agree with many of what he stated. 01:12:31
Somehow or another, it seems like we want to create some sort of borrowing policy. 01:12:34
Through an amendment process to our budget. 01:12:39
Because that's ultimately what we're doing here. 01:12:41
You know, we don't have a borrowing plan in front of us, but we're going to borrow money. 01:12:44
We don't really have much of the. 01:12:48
Plans in place like Mr. Johnson referenced. 01:12:51
I, I believe, like Mr. Johnson. 01:12:55
Stated that there is another amendment here that might fit better. 01:12:58
With our current needs. 01:13:02
And it would allow us the opportunity to create a long term plan for borrowing. 01:13:04
As opposed to just a snapshot here today. 01:13:08
Let's go and borrow $9 million and then plug a hole. 01:13:11
Perhaps we we need a better plan. 01:13:15
And I believe there's a better plan available to us here. 01:13:18
Thank you. 01:13:21
Supervisor Hedrick. 01:13:23
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:13:24
And and everyone for this. 01:13:26
Thoughtful discussion. This is great. A couple of things come to mind. We did have ailers here. 01:13:28
At the county board meeting presenting us. 01:13:35
Ideas of what a long term? 01:13:37
Planning. 01:13:39
Strategy could look like. 01:13:40
I appreciated that as well as. 01:13:41
Thinking about the fact that we do now have a finance director. 01:13:45
Who is along with our relatively new. 01:13:48
County administrator, who are. 01:13:52
Proposing to us. 01:13:54
New ways of looking at. 01:13:55
Long term budgeting. 01:13:58
It's wonderful to have a finance director in place now. 01:13:59
It, if I'm remembering right, at the executive committee meeting. 01:14:05
We were given the information that. 01:14:10
Borrowing would be about would cost on a $300,000 house. 01:14:17
Would cost about $25 a year. 01:14:21
Is that am I remembering that right? 01:14:24
Yeah, I think it's about $27.00 a year for. 01:14:26
9.5. 01:14:30
Ballpark. 01:14:32
For improving our roads and and. 01:14:35
Getting a start. 01:14:38
Getting a start with all of this and that includes keeping the $2,000,000. 01:14:40
Community Development Fund. 01:14:45
And I I just. 01:14:49
Want to reiterate the cost of. 01:14:51
Pushing plans off? 01:14:53
Roads get more expensive every year. 01:14:56
Thank you. 01:14:58
I will be voting for this obviously. Thank you. 01:14:59
Supervisor. 01:15:02
I would like to motion to call the question. I think we've all. 01:15:03
Figured out what we feel on this and I think we should vote on it. 01:15:06
That's a priority motion to to. 01:15:14
We have one more person in the in the queue. 01:15:22
If I now call the question, yeah, if if the I'm just asking if the board. 01:15:27
Agrees to. 01:15:32
Rather than go through the whole vote to call the question. 01:15:34
If the board would agreed with Mr. 01:15:37
We're working on entering it and then we'll get the second when we're ready. 01:15:41
Take that out just. 01:15:50
Do we have a second? 01:16:00
Bell. 01:16:04
Gordon, Honey. Oh. 01:16:10
Molly put it in. 01:16:13
So then go to vote. 01:16:16
Right away. 01:16:18
OK, if you agree to stop debate and. 01:16:19
Move on the question. Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:16:24
This is just for the call. 01:16:29
Pardon, just the call You are just voting on call to question and end debate. 01:16:30
Right. 01:16:36
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:16:45
Yes. 01:16:48
All having voted, that passes 24 to 6. 01:16:51
OK. 01:16:55
And then, Yep. 01:17:07
And then go to vote right away. 01:17:10
OK, we are on. 01:17:13
The amendment. 01:17:15
#2. 01:17:16
If you agree with the amendment as proposed by Supervisors Krause and Keel. 01:17:18
Yeah, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:17:24
Clock out in Conway. 01:17:47
Supervisor. 01:17:57
No. 01:18:00
No. 01:18:02
All having voted it's. 01:18:05
Ties 15 to 15. 01:18:07
Which means it fails. 01:18:09
Yep. 01:18:12
You can hit next. 01:18:15
So now this one. 01:18:17
We're going to update to the amendment number three. Click. 01:18:18
And then hit OK. 01:18:25
OK, we are now on on the agenda. It says amendment. 01:18:37
2, which is actually Amendment 3. 01:18:42
And that is the. 01:18:45
County Trunk Highway P 7.4 miles. 01:18:49
You guys have it in front of you? Submitted. The motion is by supervisor Beal. 01:18:54
And the there's a second. There's a second by Supervisor Gutenberger. 01:19:00
Supervisor Bill, would you like to speak to this? 01:19:06
I think this amendment. 01:19:11
For a compromise. 01:19:13
Of all our supervisors. 01:19:15
This will allow us. 01:19:17
One year. 01:19:19
Finance forecast. 01:19:20
And set up. 01:19:23
A plan and be strategic about how we borrow. 01:19:25
And what we borrow for. 01:19:29
We need to plan. 01:19:31
And not just react at budget time. 01:19:33
It seems that. 01:19:36
This becomes a big issue. 01:19:38
In the month of November. 01:19:40
And all through the. 01:19:43
Year we we don't talk about any of this we. 01:19:44
Need to. 01:19:49
Think how we're going to do this knowing like Supervisor Johnson pointed out. 01:19:52
We're going to have other big expenses before us. 01:19:57
In another year, two years. 01:20:00
By adopting this amendment, this allows us at one year. 01:20:05
And still addresses our Rd. needs. 01:20:10
And allow some money to go into the community development. 01:20:13
Grant, which is so important to communities. 01:20:17
To get their projects off the ground. 01:20:21
So as. 01:20:24
Former supervisor used to say. 01:20:27
At the end of the day. 01:20:31
We all know that roads are important to us. 01:20:33
But this allows us to get it done. 01:20:36
In a manner that also allows us to plan. 01:20:39
And this will put the the. 01:20:43
Onus not only on our finance department and county. 01:20:45
Administrator, but also on all of us as supervisors. 01:20:49
To step up and move forward. 01:20:53
What the strategic plan? 01:20:55
That sets us up for future needs. 01:20:58
Thank you. 01:21:00
Supervisor Der. 01:21:03
Oh, sorry. 01:21:08
I'm looking at this and it does. 01:21:09
Talk about 7.4 miles and it has 4,385,000. 01:21:11
I do understand the concern and the and the need for compromise and and yet. 01:21:17
I have no idea where that 4 million is coming from. 01:21:22
And I still. 01:21:24
I don't. 01:21:26
Understand. 01:21:27
And maybe I haven't read through enough, but I don't understand. 01:21:28
Why we can't plan? 01:21:32
For long term things in February. 01:21:34
Or March. 01:21:37
Like actual plan. 01:21:38
And still pass this budget like we can plan. 01:21:40
Like not approving the budget is not preventing us from planning. 01:21:44
So you can approve this budget. 01:21:48
And then? 01:21:50
Actually, uh. 01:21:51
Which I agree with. 01:21:52
Supervisor Johnson and other people. 01:21:54
That we could actually talk about long term planning. 01:21:56
In the spring. 01:21:59
And not. 01:22:01
Have this big delay about how we're going to fund roads and I'm sure. 01:22:02
I'm guessing. 01:22:06
Our Director of Finance and our administrator were like would welcome. 01:22:08
Long term. 01:22:12
Financial planning. 01:22:13
I don't think they're the ones holding us up. 01:22:15
But this is a stopgap again. 01:22:18
That is taking money from other areas. 01:22:21
That. 01:22:24
Have already been thought out and a lot of people weren't in on. 01:22:25
Some of our strategic planning, but we already did strategic planning and this budget for the most part addresses. 01:22:28
Those strategic planning needs, I agree we need to talk about roads and I think we shouldn't wait. 01:22:34
Till next November, I agree we should do this. 01:22:39
In the spring. 01:22:42
But that doesn't mean we should not vote for the budget. 01:22:43
Supervisor band is in. 01:22:49
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:22:52
I'm in agreement with this I. 01:22:55
I mean it. 01:22:57
Adds 17.4 miles and then the budget has 8 miles in it, so it brings us to 25 miles. 01:22:57
It takes some money out of the general fund balance, but it doesn't really drain it down that much and I think that's going to 01:23:05
get. 01:23:08
Additions from this year's. 01:23:12
There's going to be surpluses that add on to our. 01:23:14
Unassigned fund balances. 01:23:18
I think we. 01:23:21
I agree with Supervisor Johnson that we need to think about this better. We got. 01:23:22
Major. 01:23:27
Other borrowing coming up with the radios and with the building. 01:23:29
We don't know what's going to happen with that yet. 01:23:32
I think we just need to stopgap. 01:23:35
This and just do this one year. 01:23:37
Amendment and then do some long term planning. 01:23:40
You never know what's gonna happen either. There might be something. 01:23:44
Coming down the road. 01:23:47
The Wisconsin government says you can add another quarter percent sales tax or they're going to say we're going to give you some 01:23:49
of the money that we have in our coffer. 01:23:53
To help build. 01:23:58
Roads and. 01:23:59
I just think. 01:24:02
I just think this is something that we have to think about a little longer. 01:24:03
Thank you. 01:24:07
Supervisor Johnson. 01:24:08
Yes, I this is the the amendment that I support, the Beale amendment, it reflects I believe. 01:24:10
The current sediments expressed by the board members. Over the last several meetings, I've listened to you very carefully. 01:24:16
And I worked with Dave and. 01:24:22
And several of the staff members here. This is a very well thought out plant. It does do 25.5 miles. Yes it is a one time, but 01:24:23
it's a compromise. Is it everything I want? 01:24:29
Absolutely not. 01:24:34
But if we pass this, I think I can walk away saying I think we did good. 01:24:35
And I think we are providing excellent service. 01:24:39
For our constituents. 01:24:43
And laying the groundwork. 01:24:45
Giving us a little time and I will as part of the executive committee, I give my commitment to this county board. 01:24:47
That I will push very hard. 01:24:53
To have a sustainable plan, a strategy, not necessarily a policy, a strategy for debt. 01:24:55
In debt in the future? 01:25:01
And I will, I will be following up and I give you my solemn commitment of that so that you will not be dealing with this next 01:25:02
November. 01:25:05
But it will be done earlier in the year as stress so I I support this. 01:25:08
And, and I ask you also to support it and I think I'll put our county in a good position. The actual roads in here are very 01:25:12
similar. 01:25:16
To the amendment by John and Karen and I think you, I think you'll find that it really will keep our crews busy and meet our our 01:25:19
long term goals. 01:25:24
Thank you. 01:25:28
Supervisor Grukenberger. 01:25:30
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:25:32
I I note, of course, that Mister Beale is spent the last year and a half on the highway committee, so. 01:25:34
I suspect that this amendment doesn't come without. 01:25:39
Any experience or any knowledge of? 01:25:42
What is needed? 01:25:44
By the highway department and by Dutch county in general. 01:25:46
And I concur with Mr. Johnson that this is a reasonable compromise. 01:25:49
It certainly addresses many miles of roads. 01:25:53
Although it does add. 01:25:58
A small amount of debt service levy. 01:26:00
I've said. 01:26:03
For the last 5-6 months that I would not be opposed to that. 01:26:05
Because I believe that that's reasonable. 01:26:08
And. 01:26:11
I believe the funding plan is is well thought out and it takes advantage of. 01:26:13
Existing grants that would be available to us for the projects so. 01:26:17
I'd encourage people to support this. 01:26:23
To solve some of our immediate needs. 01:26:26
Thanks. 01:26:28
Supervisor Clacko. 01:26:30
I'm not familiar with some of the roads that we're talking about. Are these? 01:26:33
Does anybody know if these roads are D's and F's? 01:26:37
Are these? 01:26:41
Any of these roads sees. 01:26:42
I think it's important that we prioritize which roads we're actually doing and and this might be it. And if it is, that's great. I 01:26:44
just like some clarity on that if anybody could. 01:26:48
The you want to speak to that. 01:26:52
Supervisor Beal, or would you want me to speak to it? 01:26:55
If you need to, you can jump in, but. 01:27:00
These roads are all rated every year. 01:27:04
And the highway commissioner and his crew have gone out and. 01:27:07
Driven the roads. 01:27:12
And. 01:27:14
I believe it's called the PACER rating has been applied. 01:27:15
And they're all scored. 01:27:19
Based on. 01:27:22
Condition and and. 01:27:23
That. So yes, they're all on the list. 01:27:24
They they our roads that are in need of repair. 01:27:27
And. 01:27:31
That's why the highway committee. 01:27:32
Or, I shouldn't say committee, but the Commissioner and his crew. 01:27:34
Have recommended that these roads be repaired. 01:27:38
It's a combination of the pacer rating and the. 01:27:42
And the traffic on the roads. 01:27:46
That prioritize these roads. 01:27:48
Supervisor Keel. 01:27:54
Yes, I. 01:27:57
To ask and I'm trying to find. 01:27:58
The original resolution here OK. 01:28:04
That's two I want to. 01:28:09
In this one. 01:28:14
I just want to clarify and ask that. 01:28:15
The transfer from the fund balance. 01:28:19
Fund 220 to 400 is $904,000. 01:28:24
Which means we're leaving approximately. 01:28:29
400 and. 01:28:33
Some $1000. 01:28:35
For general fund. 01:28:37
Applied because the projects weren't included. 01:28:39
Enough to cover staffing. 01:28:45
220 to 400. The 904 is labour based on the number of projects that were included in this proposal actually leaves about 600. 01:28:47
Oh, into. 01:28:59
Operations. 01:29:01
So we still have 600,000. 01:29:02
Of Labor. of Labor being supported by the General Fund. 01:29:04
Because we don't have enough projects in the budget, it leaves 600 to apply to. 01:29:09
Operations and maintenance in. 01:29:15
The highway. 01:29:18
Department umm. 01:29:19
Above the normal. 01:29:22
Levy amount you're saying though? 01:29:24
Well, it's for maintenance. I would say it's not above the normal amount. It's. 01:29:26
There was labor put into the budget. 01:29:32
To be. 01:29:35
So we had had the employees here. 01:29:36
Correct. Tending the projects. 01:29:39
Being approved and this has amount being transferred for this number of projects. 01:29:41
And the other one it. 01:29:46
It transferred more because there were more projects being done, correct? 01:29:48
I don't Nate their view. 01:29:52
Would you like to weigh in on that or? 01:29:54
Whether they're on a project or on. 01:29:56
That money will be in. 01:30:04
It's just a matter of. 01:30:07
Project. 01:30:09
Yeah, because usually maintenance would be levy. 01:30:11
Because that's. 01:30:13
It's already in the Levy, yes. 01:30:15
Yeah. 01:30:17
But. 01:30:18
We didn't have enough. 01:30:18
In Levy. 01:30:20
To cover. 01:30:21
The. 01:30:22
Share of. 01:30:24
Road maintenance. 01:30:26
Rd. 01:30:27
County Road general maintenance. 01:30:28
Winter maintenance. 01:30:31
Because that normally would be a levy. 01:30:32
To the special revenue fund and. 01:30:34
And you're supplementing that? 01:30:37
To the tune of. 01:30:39
600 and some 1000 yet a fund balance because they're saying general fund balance. 01:30:42
You, the administrator, the finance director, want to speak to that. 01:30:48
Yes, I'll have Nathan go ahead. 01:30:53
Open, Nathan. 01:30:54
Aye, Supervisor Keel is correct. 01:30:56
Yeah, there's. 01:31:00
In order to. 01:31:02
Cover. Cover maintenance there. 01:31:05
Were insufficient levy funds and so in in the budget there was. 01:31:07
Someone point? 01:31:12
5 million that was up. 01:31:16
Fund balance applied. 01:31:18
To cover. 01:31:19
With additions of projects. 01:31:20
It were. 01:31:23
We're basically in. 01:31:24
In all reality, you're still using. 01:31:26
Well. 01:31:28
Sorry. 01:31:29
With the with this shift. 01:31:31
What we're doing is we're basically taking the fund balance applied that we had applied. 01:31:33
And we're moving it from the 220 fund to the 400 fund and so. 01:31:38
You're essentially doing the same thing. 01:31:44
You're getting at the same. 01:31:47
Same same bottom line if you will in order to. 01:31:51
Cover. 01:31:55
The the cost of salaries, but in this case. 01:31:56
900,000 is being devoted towards projects. 01:31:58
Versus. 01:32:02
Towards. 01:32:03
General Rd. Maintenance. 01:32:06
Cleaning of ditches and things of that nature. 01:32:09
You want to repeat that? I'm just saying it's over and above. 01:32:18
The normal. 01:32:22
Process and it is general fund. 01:32:25
Balance applied. 01:32:28
I just want that clarified. 01:32:30
11 moment. 01:32:34
Yeah. 01:32:36
Did you want to share that? 01:32:38
No. So I. 01:32:39
Yeah, it's really more about not over and above the normal, but. 01:32:42
Where dollars are coming from and for what type of work, as was mentioned already. So yes, we. 01:32:46
We have an amount that. 01:32:53
That we know labor will cost. 01:32:54
And we? 01:32:56
Right. We, we've just pulled that out of a couple different locations or moved. 01:32:58
Moved some funds from one location to another. When we talk about maintenance projects, we're also talking about. 01:33:02
As you mentioned, Supervisor Kiel, we're talking about dollars that can come from. 01:33:08
Levy when we're talking about. 01:33:12
Capital projects we're talking about. 01:33:16
Fund 400 Capital. 01:33:18
So I'm not sure. 01:33:20
Beyond that? 01:33:23
Exactly what you're. 01:33:24
When you're talking about over and above the normal. 01:33:25
I'm trying to think about of another way to explain it, but. 01:33:29
Are you normally? 01:33:32
I'm sorry you normally budget. 01:33:34
So and so much for winter maintenance. So and so much for. 01:33:37
County maintenance. 01:33:40
And that is Levy, because that's. 01:33:43
Being charged for equipment and labor and everything. 01:33:45
Applying fund balance is not. 01:33:52
The way you usually. 01:33:57
It's applying. It's. 01:34:00
It's saying it's not. 01:34:01
Making ends meet, you have extra labor. 01:34:05
You're only doing the. 01:34:08
But then. 01:34:10
You're also doing equipment? No, you're just doing the labor with this fund balance. 01:34:12
That doesn't help these. 01:34:17
Enterprise Fund. 01:34:19
Right, meet their needs is where I'm trying to get at. 01:34:21
You need. 01:34:25
The Enterprise Fund. 01:34:26
To be working. 01:34:28
You need them to be working on projects that are build back. 01:34:29
And funded. 01:34:34
Not by fund balance. 01:34:36
Supervisor Derrick. 01:34:40
I just want to clarify or ask. This amendment is taking 1,000,000 / 1,000,000. 01:34:42
Out of that. 01:34:48
Economic Development Fund. 01:34:49
Right, correct. 01:34:50
And then we're talking about. 01:34:52
You know, doing some long term financing. 01:34:53
So counties. 01:34:57
Can go out and we can borrow. 01:34:58
And directly fund housing projects and we can directly fund those. 01:35:00
OK. And you know. 01:35:05
Supervisor kills shaking your head no. And I agree. We're not developers, we're not in that business right so. 01:35:07
We can help. 01:35:13
Other. 01:35:15
Developers who are doing a project by contributing. 01:35:16
Money 5% or whatever to get it over the top we. 01:35:20
We can do that. 01:35:23
But we're we know we can. 01:35:25
Borrow money. 01:35:28
For roads. 01:35:29
You can't. And this is the difference, right? You can't borrow money. 01:35:30
To fund your economic. 01:35:34
Development Fund. 01:35:36
So what seems like. 01:35:39
And I mean in all. 01:35:40
Really well-intentioned. 01:35:42
A compromise? 01:35:44
Honestly is handicapping us. 01:35:45
We cannot. 01:35:47
We can only borrow from for infrastructure generally. 01:35:49
You can't operate do for. 01:35:53
Bar operations type. 01:35:54
Type so. 01:35:56
We're losing that. 01:35:58
Fund and were not. 01:35:59
Getting it back. 01:36:01
We're portion we're talking about this amendment now and this one has no. 01:36:04
Borrowing in it, so I don't think it's appropriate to. 01:36:08
Talk about borrowing. No, honestly, I. 01:36:12
Respectfully disagree, because I think there's a sense that we can grab money right from funding, including finance, Mr. Chairman, 01:36:15
and I don't think. 01:36:20
I just want to clarify. 01:36:25
We can borrow for roads. 01:36:27
Right away. 01:36:29
Like we can talk about it and borrow whenever we want, right? Or in the budget? 01:36:30
We can't do that same borrowing to replenish this economic fund. So money is not fungible. You can't just pull it from one part 01:36:34
and then think we can fill it the same or different way. 01:36:41
We have a great amount of ability to raise a lot of money. 01:36:48
By financing it. 01:36:52
But we can't do that for economic development unless we're actually doing infrastructure. 01:36:53
And we've all agreed. 01:36:59
That financing economic projects is not what we want to directly be doing. We want to support projects that are 95% done and get 01:37:00
them over the line. 01:37:04
And so. 01:37:09
It's well-intentioned. 01:37:10
But we're handicapping ourselves by putting. 01:37:12
Might pulling money out of something that we. 01:37:14
Can't replenish by financing. 01:37:16
Supervisor Kane. 01:37:20
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 01:37:22
I too. 01:37:24
Don't like to see money coming out of the economic Development Fund and I hope that. 01:37:26
At some point there. 01:37:31
Perhaps could be some additional funds that would come in that we could. 01:37:32
Conduct a budget amendment and and replenish this but. 01:37:36
I do in the interest of compromise and of getting our roads. 01:37:40
Repaired would would support this and. 01:37:44
Urge my fellow supervisors to do the same. 01:37:47
Thank you. 01:37:50
OK. 01:37:53
Supervisor Van de Zen. 01:37:55
Getting back to that. 01:37:58
220 fund balance thing. 01:38:01
It was. This is like a. 01:38:03
The first time they did this with this expenses I believe. 01:38:05
And it is. 01:38:09
Considered only a one year. 01:38:10
A1 year. 01:38:14
Allocation and then they're going to revisit it so. 01:38:18
Just to clarify that. Thank you. 01:38:20
OK, are we ready to vote? 01:38:24
I believe we are. 01:38:28
If you agree with this amendment. 01:38:29
As presented. 01:38:33
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:38:35
Supervisor. 01:38:50
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:38:56
Yes. 01:38:58
All having voted, it passes 23 to 7. 01:39:01
Amendment #4. 01:39:09
Take $2,000,000 from Community Development. 01:39:11
Supervisor Hauschen is. 01:39:16
Is requesting to pull that amendment. Let's pull it since. 01:39:20
It's already been covered. 01:39:24
Thank you. 01:39:26
All right, I think we. 01:39:30
We will go on with our agenda but finance and Corp Council needs to. 01:39:32
Get the details into the final draft. 01:39:37
Oh, OK. 01:39:42
Are there any, are there any amendments from the floor? 01:39:43
No, OK. 01:39:49
OK. And so finance and Corp Council will get the final version of the of the budget? 01:39:50
With all the details put in. 01:39:56
In the meantime, we will proceed with our. 01:39:58
Agenda. 01:40:00
So we're going to skip. 01:40:05
Past 47, we're going to go to report. 01:40:07
Pause or we just. No, we're gonna we're. 01:40:12
We're we're going to go to the report. 01:40:14
Table this. 01:40:17
We will. 01:40:18
Hold on. 01:40:20
We will bring the. 01:40:21
Final version of of #47 the budget. 01:40:23
Back uh. 01:40:26
Later in the agenda. 01:40:27
Or just. 01:40:28
If your if your preference is to take time. 01:40:37
And just. 01:40:40
Wild time away here while they do that. That's fine. 01:40:42
But otherwise I. 01:40:45
I propose that we go ahead. 01:40:47
With the rest of the agenda. 01:40:49
Allow them to get the final version with all the details put in from the amendments. 01:40:51
And when they? 01:40:56
Have that done, they will bring back and we will vote on it. 01:40:57
Through 4:00. 01:41:01
He thinks we're still on amendment. 01:41:03
No, no, he's talking about the the whole budget. 01:41:05
So. 01:41:08
I believe that's appropriate to do, but. 01:41:10
If anybody. 01:41:13
Kim is not here to correct me right now, so. 01:41:15
So are there any? 01:41:19
Objection. 01:41:20
We will return to 2547 the budget. 01:41:22
When they get the final details in. 01:41:25
In the meantime, we're going to go to report #1. 01:41:27
Report one. 01:41:33
Ordinance number. 01:41:35
1183. 01:41:38
An ordinance amending. 01:41:42
The 2000 official zoning map for the Town of Emmett adapted with the Land Use Code. 01:41:43
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks hereby report favorably. 01:41:49
On the petition of Chad Reimer requesting amendment of. 01:41:54
The land use code. 01:41:58
Which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025, signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks 01:42:01
Committee. 01:42:06
I have a motion by Supervisor Burnett and a second by Supervisor Guckenberger. 01:42:11
Supervisor Clacko. 01:42:19
What are they going to do with this land? 01:42:20
To allow for a painting contractor business. 01:42:32
Without outdoor storage is what it says. 01:42:35
Thank you. 01:42:41
OK. Any other questions? 01:42:42
If you agree with the report from the committee. 01:42:47
Please vote. 01:42:50
And if you do not, please vote no. 01:42:53
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:42:59
Yes. 01:43:01
All having voted, it passes 28 to 2. 01:43:04
Perfect. 01:43:07
Report 3. 01:43:08
Ordinance number 11. 01:43:10
85. 01:43:13
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report favorably on the petition of Sally. 01:43:15
Did you skip to? 01:43:22
Oh, I apologize. 01:43:24
Report 2. 01:43:26
I skipped ahead. 01:43:28
An ordinance amending the 2000 official zoning map for the Town of Fox Lake. 01:43:31
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report. 01:43:37
Report favorably on the petition of Stephen Tilma. 01:43:41
Requesting amendment of the land use code. 01:43:45
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November 2025. Signed by five members of the Land, Resources and Parks 01:43:48
Committee. 01:43:52
I have a motion by Supervisor Molly, second by Supervisor Bischoff. 01:43:56
Any questions or comments on this report? 01:44:01
Any questions? 01:44:07
OK, if you agree with the report. 01:44:10
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:44:13
Supervisor Freebult. 01:44:20
Yes. 01:44:23
All having voted, it passes 28 to 1. 01:44:25
Report 3. Ordinance 1185. 01:44:31
An ordinance amending the 2000 official zoning map for the Town of Hustisford. 01:44:36
We, the Dodge County Land, Resources and Parks Committee, hereby report favorably on the petition of Sally. 01:44:42
Gals and cabin girls. 01:44:48
Agent for Randall M Stone and Kristen D Wallen. 01:44:49
Requesting an amendment of the Land Use Code, all of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025, signed by 01:44:53
five members of the Land Resources and Parks Committee. 01:44:59
I have a motion by supervisor Bischoff and a second by supervisor Molly. 01:45:05
Any questions on this report? 01:45:10
Any questions? 01:45:15
Does it say sign in? Can you hit that? 01:45:22
Request to speak absent. 01:45:25
OK. 01:45:29
Put them back in. Thank you. OK. 01:45:31
OK. 01:45:35
Ours say that you're all present. 01:45:43
Yeah, it should be a. 01:45:48
They've already. 01:45:55
This is already moved to 1186 on my. 01:45:57
I'm texting the company. 01:46:00
The company. 01:46:02
Yeah. 01:46:27
We're already on 1186 on here and we should be on 1185. 01:46:30
Oh, that just says next agenda item. 01:46:40
OK. All right. 01:46:42
So run report 3 hip both. 01:46:43
Did everybody's come back up now? 01:46:51
Because we put it to vote. 01:46:55
OK. 01:46:57
If you agree with the report of the committee, please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:47:00
Free Vault. 01:47:15
Supervisor free. 01:47:16
Yes. 01:47:18
All having voted, it passes 27 to 3. 01:47:21
OK Ordinance 1186, an ordinance amending chapter 2, the governing body creating section 2.04. 01:47:29
County Board compensation of the Dodge County Code of Ordinances. 01:47:39
All of which is respectfully submitted this 12th day of November, 2025. 01:47:45
Signed by. 01:47:51
Six members of the executive committee. 01:47:54
Fiscal note The proposed budget for 2026 did not increase. 01:47:57
Per diem rates, future year budgets will be developed. 01:48:02
At the rate set forth in section 2.04. 01:48:05
Finance Committee review date November 12, 2025. 01:48:09
Initialed by Finance Committee chair. 01:48:14
I have a motion by supervisor Cavazanian and a second by Supervisor Kane. 01:48:17
And the motion is to leave everything. 01:48:23
At its current rate. 01:48:26
Is that correct? 01:48:28
Yeah, OK. Any discussion? 01:48:30
Anyone wish to speak? 01:48:34
If you agree with the recommendation of the executive committee to. 01:48:38
Leave all. 01:48:42
Per diems compensation the same as it is currently. Please vote yes if you do not. 01:48:45
Vote no. 01:48:51
Supervisor free vote. 01:48:59
Yes. 01:49:02
All having voted, it passes 29 to 1. 01:49:04
Claim one. 01:49:11
On the recommendation of the Dodge County Corporation Council in consultation with Wisconsin Municipal Mutual Insurance Company. 01:49:14
We, the Dodge County Executive Committee, recommend that the Dodge County Board of Supervisor. 01:49:22
Supervisors disallow the claim made by Leanne Dodge. 01:49:27
Dated October 21st, 2025. 01:49:32
All of which is respectfully submitted this. 01:49:36
Third day of November 2025. Signed by six members of the Executive Committee. 01:49:38
I have a motion by Supervisor Guckenberger and a second by Supervisor Miller. 01:49:45
Any discussion on this? 01:49:51
So the motion. 01:49:55
Is to deny the claim. 01:49:57
Is there? If you agree with the motion to deny the claim, please vote yes if you do not. 01:50:01
Please vote no. 01:50:07
Supervisor Johnson. 01:50:17
Kiel. 01:50:22
Supervisor Free Vault. 01:50:26
Yes. 01:50:29
All having voted, it passes 30 to 0. 01:50:30
OK, you want to make your statement. 01:50:38
I can. 01:50:42
Next item on the agenda. 01:50:45
Statement by county clerk for the spring election. Your nomination papers. 01:50:48
Our candidacy papers are. 01:50:55
Started for you and available in my office after the meeting. 01:50:58
Um, so stop by. 01:51:02
Just a reminder, circulation and signatures cannot be collected until December 1st at the. 01:51:05
Earliest. 01:51:11
They also need to be returned by January 5th by 5:00 PM. 01:51:13
OK, at this point I think we will take a recess until we get. 01:51:18
We hear back from. 01:51:24
Finance and corporate counsel. 01:51:25
All right, everyone had. 01:51:46
Does everyone have a copy of the? 01:51:50
Budget as amended. 01:51:52
As Administrator Clapper is going to. 01:51:56
Go over the changes and then we will have the vote. 01:52:00
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:52:05
And thank you everybody for being here today. 01:52:07
Right down on the on the first page, line 23 of your resolution. 01:52:10
Thank you, Operational revenues. 01:52:15
That was increased by about 8.5 million. 01:52:18
As a result of amendments today. 01:52:22
Property tax revenue as listed there with. 01:52:24
Not including. 01:52:28
Any payments in property tax for debt service remains the same unchanged transfers in. 01:52:29
That line changes from. 01:52:36
The original number to 22,950,654, an increase of $4.3 million. 01:52:38
About sales tax revenue remains the same, bond proceeds remains 0. 01:52:45
Debt levy. 01:52:51
Is. 01:52:53
Increased by $944,250. That's. 01:52:54
Increasing from zero. 01:52:58
Fund balance or net position applied increased by 4.25 million. 01:53:00
To $11,469,964. 01:53:06
For a total. 01:53:09
Of revenues of 201. 01:53:10
762349. 01:53:12
201 million. 01:53:14
Dollars. 01:53:15
Expense line wages. 01:53:17
58,000,000 remains. 01:53:19
954,230. 01:53:21
That's unchanged benefits unchanged. Operational expenses and expenditures increased $4.2 million to 71,069,498. Capital outlay 01:53:23
increased by. 01:53:29
9.2. 01:53:35
Or almost 9.3 million to 17,211,376. 01:53:37
Transfers out. 01:53:43
Increased by 4.3 million. 01:53:44
To 22,950,654. 01:53:46
And other expenses. 01:53:50
Increased. 01:53:52
By 119. 01:53:54
$1250 to be 8,222,000. 01:53:55
105 dollars. 01:54:00
Again for a total of $201,000,762. 01:54:01
349 cents, which shows balanced. 01:54:05
And that's all I'll share. 01:54:09
OK, we have a. 01:54:14
Motion on the floor for 2547, the Budget as amended. 01:54:16
Are we ready to vote? 01:54:23
Yep, I'm just making sure free vaults still on. 01:54:25
Yes, Sir, you can go to vote. 01:54:29
If you agree with the amended budget. 01:54:35
Please vote yes. If you do not, please vote no. 01:54:37
Supervisor may know supervisor free vault. 01:54:51
Yes. 01:54:55
All having voted, it passes 24 to 5. 01:54:58
Thank you. 01:55:02
Just to review. 01:55:13
The items on your desk before we go. 01:55:15
On your desk. 01:55:19
There was. 01:55:21
The communications on file that we. 01:55:22
Discussed there. 01:55:25
Is. 01:55:27
The ADRC Connections newsletter. 01:55:28
And then also there is the Discover Wisconsin 2026 calendar. 01:55:32
Like other years, if you don't want your calendar, you won't use it. 01:55:38
My office will take them back. We. 01:55:43
We then hand them. 01:55:46
And we give them to Clearview residents and. 01:55:48
So we make good use out of them if you won't use it. 01:55:51
OK, Supervisor Johnson. 01:55:55
Yes, I make a motion to adjourn to the next meeting on Tuesday, December 16th, 2025 at 6:00 PM. 01:55:59
I have a second by supervisor Minel. 01:56:05
All in favor signify by. 01:56:08
Aye, opposed. 01:56:10
And it's carried. Thank you everyone. 01:56:12
I think I think everyone is on on your list is on there. 01:56:17
I think, I think everyone was on there. Wasn't it pretty snowing out of all of them? 01:56:22