Conservation/Extension Committee Meeting
Transcript
| We need to change that. I just, I just forgot about the agenda. | 00:00:00 | |
| On the minutes from last month, OK, I I forgot I made myself a note and read and then I just I forgot to mention it. | 00:00:03 | |
| Is that would that be OK with you, John? | 00:00:11 | |
| OK, Ben. | 00:00:13 | |
| OK. So just change that to September? | 00:00:15 | |
| And I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I had it on my. | 00:00:17 | |
| OK, those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:00:21 | |
| Aye. | 00:00:24 | |
| Those opposed OK. | 00:00:25 | |
| All right, you are up. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:00:27 | |
| I hope you all have had a good summer and enjoyed the. | 00:00:32 | |
| Interesting weather. | 00:00:36 | |
| And that you survived and nobody got blown away or wet. | 00:00:38 | |
| So I'm going to talk about two programs. One of them is. | 00:00:45 | |
| Almost complete. | 00:00:51 | |
| And the other is how upcoming program and. | 00:00:53 | |
| The point of doing this is really to give you a little bit more detail about how a community development educator works. | 00:00:58 | |
| One of the first. | 00:01:05 | |
| Programs I started was first impressions and I believe I've mentioned that and it's it's actually a fairly. | 00:01:06 | |
| Old tool, it's been around. It was developed by two extension educators and they put it together to help communities. | 00:01:15 | |
| Find ways to address the challenges they might have. | 00:01:23 | |
| Typically, the effort focuses on downtown, you know, sort of the the heart of the community. | 00:01:28 | |
| So Columbus approached me because I know the. | 00:01:34 | |
| County economic development director there and we ended up partnering with the city of Dodgeville. We look for communities that | 00:01:37 | |
| are. | 00:01:41 | |
| Have some things in common size, sort of. | 00:01:46 | |
| Kind of places they are. | 00:01:50 | |
| And we conducted our visits in June and July. Columbus went to Dodgeville in June and then. | 00:01:52 | |
| Dodgeville. | 00:02:00 | |
| Columbus sometime in July. Now, these are secret visits, so we don't let them know we're coming. | 00:02:01 | |
| Kind of like a secret chopper. | 00:02:07 | |
| And we had six people on our team and they had a list of questions they had to answer as they went around the town. | 00:02:09 | |
| How is the signage? What do the schools look like? You know, so we could give the community feedback. | 00:02:17 | |
| And because smartphones are so ubiquitous. | 00:02:24 | |
| We also had people take pictures because sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words. | 00:02:28 | |
| Then I transcribed all of that data and all of those pictures. | 00:02:34 | |
| Try to make that report usable. | 00:02:40 | |
| And it's now in Kelly's fine hands to make it look pretty. Because. | 00:02:43 | |
| I'm not a graphic designer and once we do that, we will share it. | 00:02:48 | |
| What we hope will come out of this actually some of the stuff that's already come out of it. | 00:02:53 | |
| Is that the communities that participate will have some. | 00:02:58 | |
| Concrete ideas that they can use to improve their downtown. | 00:03:03 | |
| A more sort of. | 00:03:08 | |
| Not. | 00:03:10 | |
| Obvious thing is to build partnerships between. | 00:03:11 | |
| The community members that participate. | 00:03:15 | |
| If you go on one of these trips, you're you're in a car for three hours, you have a chance to talk about issues and concerns. | 00:03:19 | |
| You have a top chance to talk about the things you saw and what you might be able to bring back to your own community. | 00:03:26 | |
| So it really is a lot about. | 00:03:31 | |
| Building that partnership. | 00:03:33 | |
| And what? | 00:03:35 | |
| Turned out to be sort of the motivating factor for both communities that. | 00:03:36 | |
| The people who? | 00:03:41 | |
| The gentleman who asked me and then my extension partner in Iowa County was they were working with groups that just. | 00:03:43 | |
| Have been sort of running in place and really hadn't. | 00:03:51 | |
| Taken on a project. | 00:03:54 | |
| And they are hoping that doing this will give them both a kick start. | 00:03:56 | |
| To really start taking on some things, because sometimes you just need something really. | 00:04:01 | |
| You know, obvious like. | 00:04:07 | |
| Are welcome to town signs are really ugly. | 00:04:09 | |
| Or the lights really could be improved. Or, you know, maybe we should add benches to downtown. And yes, there really are some very | 00:04:13 | |
| ugly welcome to my town. | 00:04:18 | |
| Signs Dodge Ville has a really great slogan. | 00:04:24 | |
| And you could barely read. | 00:04:28 | |
| Read it. The sign was like. | 00:04:29 | |
| I like earth tones. | 00:04:32 | |
| The earth tones were a bit much with that sign, especially since you're. | 00:04:33 | |
| Pretty much in the Driftless, and it's Wisconsin and it's green and it's glorious. | 00:04:38 | |
| Any questions about that program? | 00:04:45 | |
| It's a lot of fun to do. | 00:04:49 | |
| The next thing I wanted to talk about is to actually invite you to the small community forum. | 00:04:53 | |
| Which is in juice. | 00:05:00 | |
| On October 7th. | 00:05:02 | |
| And it starts. Registration starts at 7:30. | 00:05:04 | |
| And it's in the Houston Furred Community Hall. | 00:05:09 | |
| And. | 00:05:13 | |
| What happened is. | 00:05:15 | |
| Patty, how long ago was that? | 00:05:18 | |
| It was in 2022. | 00:05:21 | |
| OK. In 2022? | 00:05:25 | |
| Who's just furred, approached Todd Johnson, who's one of our community development specialists. | 00:05:28 | |
| To conduct what's called the charette. | 00:05:34 | |
| It's a community wide charette. What a fancy French word. Basically it's like this weekend long meeting of as many people as you | 00:05:36 | |
| can get together to rethink, reimagine your community. | 00:05:42 | |
| And Patty was sort of the extension representative there to help. | 00:05:49 | |
| And. | 00:05:54 | |
| When I came on board, they. | 00:05:56 | |
| Sort of referred me to the. | 00:05:58 | |
| People. | 00:06:01 | |
| Who? | 00:06:02 | |
| Participated in that. One of the things they did was to create an organization called Path. | 00:06:03 | |
| And they've been doing different activities around town and one of their action steps was to host. | 00:06:09 | |
| A small community forum these are. | 00:06:16 | |
| Forums that are held. | 00:06:19 | |
| You know, in five to seven places around the state every year, I think this is the 14th 1. | 00:06:21 | |
| And their opportunities for small community members to get together and. | 00:06:27 | |
| Talk about. | 00:06:33 | |
| Common issues and what works and network and. | 00:06:34 | |
| And. | 00:06:38 | |
| You know. | 00:06:39 | |
| Get together. | 00:06:40 | |
| And they asked me. | 00:06:41 | |
| To facilitate the end session roundtable session. | 00:06:43 | |
| And so I would, I worked with Tracy Malter, who actually used to work in our extension office. | 00:06:47 | |
| To develop key questions and a process to encourage. | 00:06:54 | |
| Dialogues so. | 00:06:58 | |
| You'll if you're from one of those smaller communities. | 00:07:00 | |
| It's a great opportunity to connect. | 00:07:04 | |
| And see what it looks like when. | 00:07:06 | |
| An extension agent facilitates a large group. | 00:07:10 | |
| So any questions about that? | 00:07:13 | |
| Are you going to have a? | 00:07:15 | |
| Like an evening event or some other that summarizes the events from that day or. | 00:07:17 | |
| Not that I'm aware of. That's on a Tuesday, is that right? | 00:07:23 | |
| I believe so, yeah. | 00:07:27 | |
| During the day, a lot of us have other things. I know it'll be difficult. | 00:07:28 | |
| I thought before, if I remember right, didn't didn't. | 00:07:34 | |
| Patty didn't didn't we have a meeting. It remember we had an evening in the night and then we had all the displays up and all the | 00:07:37 | |
| 22. | 00:07:40 | |
| So is this just a follow up? No, this is this. I don't know that you would call it a follow up. | 00:07:45 | |
| Did the group that was created path would grow out of the the charette? They're doing different activities and one of the | 00:07:51 | |
| activities they chose to do was to host one of these forums. So it's not an. | 00:07:57 | |
| Obvious outgrowth of. | 00:08:04 | |
| Of the charette, but it is related to it. | 00:08:06 | |
| So they'll they'll be talking about some of the projects that they. | 00:08:10 | |
| Accomplished. | 00:08:14 | |
| OK. I think it'd be pulling in all those architects from No, no, no, no. Those other guys, they did before. | 00:08:16 | |
| My understanding is Todd will be there. | 00:08:22 | |
| OK. | 00:08:24 | |
| But. | 00:08:25 | |
| Not the, not the rest of them. | 00:08:26 | |
| OK. | 00:08:27 | |
| All right, so and I think they did another charette was done up in Wapan, Wapan. | 00:08:29 | |
| Right. So the Rural Communities Organization is putting on. | 00:08:34 | |
| These small community forums. | 00:08:41 | |
| For community stakeholders in the local. | 00:08:45 | |
| Community to highlight local businesses. | 00:08:48 | |
| And it's a way to promote small rural communities. | 00:08:51 | |
| And they do them in different parts of the state. | 00:08:54 | |
| And small communities sometimes aren't equipped. | 00:08:57 | |
| To to put these on. | 00:09:01 | |
| But because. | 00:09:03 | |
| Because path. | 00:09:04 | |
| Is in Houston spurred a little village right here in Dodge County. | 00:09:05 | |
| Path is very committed. | 00:09:09 | |
| Two small community and so when the rural community. | 00:09:12 | |
| Reached out to. Well, they reached out to because. | 00:09:18 | |
| With with Pat and myself. | 00:09:21 | |
| Being involved with the charrette and whatever, they reached out to Extension, We reached out to PATH and then PATH said yes, | 00:09:23 | |
| we'll host one. | 00:09:27 | |
| So it's. | 00:09:31 | |
| It is a. It is a indirect response. | 00:09:32 | |
| To the charette. | 00:09:35 | |
| Because it has created a situation in which. | 00:09:36 | |
| Eustis Ford and Path of Eustis Ford. | 00:09:40 | |
| Is equipped to. | 00:09:43 | |
| To put on one of these small town. | 00:09:45 | |
| Community Forums. | 00:09:47 | |
| And it's it's a pretty cool thing. And I hope that you're going to be able to be there. We're hoping to get other people there. | 00:09:49 | |
| I'm going to be at a convention, so I cannot be there. Pat's going to be there. | 00:09:54 | |
| And anyone who's going to be there, but we, we pat, I'm sure will report out or provide you information with how it goes. | 00:09:59 | |
| Yeah, it's pretty exciting because at least with the round tables, we will keep all those notes and put them in a summary | 00:10:07 | |
| document. So. | 00:10:11 | |
| Any other questions? | 00:10:16 | |
| Any questions from the committee? | 00:10:20 | |
| Nope. Thank you. | 00:10:22 | |
| You bet. | 00:10:24 | |
| OK, I don't see. | 00:10:27 | |
| Other agencies here, I haven't heard anything. They may come later. | 00:10:30 | |
| OK. If if so, you're both a few minutes ago. I don't think either one of them are coming. | 00:10:33 | |
| OK. OK. Thank you. | 00:10:39 | |
| OK, John, you want to talk going on to 7. | 00:10:43 | |
| About the tell them what's going on with the drainage board and the appointment here that we have. | 00:10:48 | |
| That's this route. | 00:10:52 | |
| One one of the positions on Dodge County Drainage Board is going to become vacant next month. | 00:10:56 | |
| And the process to refill that position. There's several different processes, but as far as this. | 00:11:02 | |
| Committee is concerned. | 00:11:08 | |
| Is to make three recommendations. | 00:11:10 | |
| To the county courts because the Dodge County courts actually appoints one of the people. | 00:11:13 | |
| So there's a list of six people that have expressed interest. | 00:11:19 | |
| In sitting on the board. | 00:11:23 | |
| So what I need from you is. | 00:11:26 | |
| Just to circle three names, I'll have Cheryl tabulate it and then we can tell you what three you are recommending to move on to | 00:11:30 | |
| the courts. | 00:11:34 | |
| I do have. | 00:11:40 | |
| The actual letters that were sent packets for each of them if you want to take time to read through. | 00:11:41 | |
| So some of them are are actual farmers. There's a couple. | 00:11:49 | |
| Engineers that are in there. | 00:11:52 | |
| So you can. | 00:11:55 | |
| All right. So the procedure here is that we have to vote. | 00:11:58 | |
| You just have to. Well, you're not really voting, you're recommending 3 names. | 00:12:02 | |
| So, yeah, I guess in a way you are kind of voting. So what what's the procedure on this Then we do like a. | 00:12:08 | |
| Want to make sure we get the procedure. I think the majority majority would would rule so if the first sheet I sent around were | 00:12:17 | |
| all six names are on there. | 00:12:21 | |
| If you just circle three names that you. | 00:12:25 | |
| Personally would recommend. | 00:12:29 | |
| Then I can have Cheryl tabulate it and we can tell you who the majority. | 00:12:31 | |
| Who the three are that had the majority? | 00:12:37 | |
| Votes, I guess. So Do we need to take a few minutes and review this or? Yeah, if you want to read to them, yeah. I have no idea | 00:12:39 | |
| who does. I don't either. | 00:12:43 | |
| Yeah, you can go ahead and read through them, all right. | 00:12:48 | |
| We'll give you guys a few minutes here and we'll take a look at it and. | 00:12:50 | |
| So how do you want to go about this? | 00:15:13 | |
| I think. | 00:15:15 | |
| When everyone's ready, I think. | 00:15:16 | |
| Unless there's objection, I think we'll just do like a. | 00:15:18 | |
| Like you suggest a. | 00:15:22 | |
| For lack of better, it's not really secret, but we each. | 00:15:24 | |
| Select three names, give it the Cheryl, right? She tally it up and then yeah. | 00:15:26 | |
| And then, then when we get 3 names, then we vote. | 00:15:31 | |
| We'll make a motion to approve those three names to forward to the judge right to judge. | 00:15:35 | |
| Does that sound OK with everybody? | 00:15:40 | |
| OK. | 00:15:42 | |
| People on our names on the sheet winning tournament. | 00:15:43 | |
| No, no. | 00:15:47 | |
| This Cheryl, you'll come around and collect them from each of us then. | 00:15:48 | |
| Hey, you guys, Is everyone OK? Ready to vote one second circle? OK, wait. So tell me when you're ready, Lisa. | 00:15:51 | |
| Second, sorry. | 00:15:58 | |
| Thank you. | 00:16:20 | |
| I think it only take you a minute. | 00:16:36 | |
| To do this. | 00:16:39 | |
| Unless you want us to move on to the next thing, Lear. | 00:16:40 | |
| Figuring it out, we could move in, we could move on, OK. | 00:16:42 | |
| All right, Yeah. | 00:16:47 | |
| You all skip down to the airport discussion first. Is there anyone object? | 00:16:50 | |
| OK. | 00:16:55 | |
| Let's go down to item number 15. | 00:16:55 | |
| And OK, so prior to the meeting, the Chairman. | 00:16:59 | |
| Updated me. | 00:17:04 | |
| That he would like us to have a well, we. | 00:17:06 | |
| We checked with Kim this morning to see if this if we make a recommendation if it need to go to the county board. In the past it | 00:17:10 | |
| had not, but this is a change and Kim recommends that well if we make a a motion to select somebody. | 00:17:17 | |
| It's especially because it's going to be different criteria than before, because it's for education and for the benefit of the | 00:17:24 | |
| farmers. | 00:17:27 | |
| Different than just getting the the highest bid. | 00:17:31 | |
| That it has been recommended by Kim that it goes to the entire county board because of the change. | 00:17:34 | |
| And so because of that and the timing of it. | 00:17:39 | |
| What would happen is is if we. | 00:17:42 | |
| If we talk about this this morning. | 00:17:44 | |
| And we make a recommendation. | 00:17:46 | |
| Then what? Dave will make an amendment to the County Board agenda tomorrow night and then this would appear. | 00:17:48 | |
| On the county board meeting for approval for tomorrow night. | 00:17:55 | |
| Because of the timing, the way the timing works on this. So I don't know Dale, do you want to? | 00:17:58 | |
| Talk or Dale and. | 00:18:03 | |
| John and Ken, you guys been more involved? I don't. | 00:18:04 | |
| Talk about that, we want to make a. What do you guys thinking on this? | 00:18:08 | |
| The main reason? | 00:18:13 | |
| In recommending county boards because it. | 00:18:15 | |
| Planes for four years, so it's. | 00:18:18 | |
| OK, OK. | 00:18:21 | |
| OK. You did say that and I apologize binding for four year, 4 year agreement. | 00:18:22 | |
| It'll go through a couple sessions of our. | 00:18:27 | |
| County board, you know. | 00:18:29 | |
| OK. So we're looking for discussion on. | 00:18:31 | |
| Well, that's what I want. | 00:18:35 | |
| Hi, yeah, I don't know if he's available for Mona or not. | 00:18:38 | |
| I don't know if would you allow us to put him just for a few minutes beforehand. If you're going to change the agenda, could we | 00:18:43 | |
| change that also? | 00:18:47 | |
| But we at the immediate conclusion of this meeting. | 00:18:52 | |
| We all. | 00:18:55 | |
| Resignation. Well, yeah, yeah, OK. | 00:18:59 | |
| OK. | 00:19:01 | |
| I I would, I would really like that. | 00:19:03 | |
| Yes. | 00:19:04 | |
| So if the chairman said he would allow it, so if we do decide to go with a motion to approve it. | 00:19:05 | |
| That we had asked. | 00:19:10 | |
| To speak prior to the meeting to give a presentation on what what we're talking about here. | 00:19:13 | |
| If not. | 00:19:19 | |
| Could we get Will to do a video? | 00:19:21 | |
| I'll have to give him a call and ask him. | 00:19:24 | |
| Feel, because I'm not an expert at this, I feel. | 00:19:26 | |
| Would that be an option? | 00:19:31 | |
| Depending. I think you need to have the discussion here about first. | 00:19:33 | |
| OK. | 00:19:37 | |
| OK, so the. | 00:19:38 | |
| Let's do the the highest bid. | 00:19:42 | |
| OK. | 00:19:45 | |
| What would you have the extension? | 00:19:46 | |
| For taking the bid that works with UW extension and has. | 00:19:48 | |
| OK, research. | 00:19:53 | |
| Or the area. So OK, let's first talk about that. Do we need to make 2 motions or one motion? | 00:19:55 | |
| I think just one motion, OK, the first part, so we had what we did is we as you know, we solicited bids. | 00:20:02 | |
| And there was a committee. This is from the original. | 00:20:08 | |
| Of the farmers for. | 00:20:11 | |
| Educational. | 00:20:13 | |
| Purposes and I think they favored one and then after that in order to get value to the county board so the county board would | 00:20:15 | |
| know. | 00:20:19 | |
| How much the difference between a market value and educational value? But although we're still getting money for the education. | 00:20:24 | |
| So that's what he's talking about. We got then additional bids. My understanding is that correct then and and and is approximately | 00:20:31 | |
| a $20,000, right, $20,000 difference. | 00:20:36 | |
| Between the market. | 00:20:41 | |
| And. | 00:20:43 | |
| Selection if we if we just rented the land. | 00:20:44 | |
| At the airport. | 00:20:47 | |
| Just to get the most money we could would be 20,000 more than if we. | 00:20:49 | |
| Decided to do an educational harm. Did I say that correctly? | 00:20:53 | |
| OK, there's a reason not to call it a research farm. Research, research, research. I'm sorry, research. When you talk to the | 00:20:57 | |
| county board, I'm going to say. | 00:21:01 | |
| The total amount of 1 bidden total money other bid. | 00:21:05 | |
| And then let people do the math themselves. I just think. | 00:21:08 | |
| The whole amount would be better to. | 00:21:11 | |
| Yeah, I think yeah, it's 71. | 00:21:12 | |
| 510 I think was the highest bid. | 00:21:16 | |
| And then? | 00:21:19 | |
| Bid with with the research was $200.00 an acre. | 00:21:22 | |
| And moreover that. | 00:21:26 | |
| Where that comes out? | 00:21:29 | |
| You know, I think we we need to show the value of research. | 00:21:32 | |
| I'm fine if well, when you, whoever makes a motion, if they want to have it written that way, we don't have. | 00:21:38 | |
| It needs to be drafted a certain way is what you're saying. | 00:21:44 | |
| We won't have that in this meeting, but we could have it for tomorrow night for prayer. The meeting with Quick, I'll sign it | 00:21:47 | |
| before. Would that be accepted? | 00:21:50 | |
| Or do we have to we have to have in the packet? | 00:21:53 | |
| We we would like to. | 00:21:55 | |
| Send it out. Somebody stick around and sign it. And Kim, Kim's over at highway right now. But. | 00:21:57 | |
| She will draft it when she gets back, whatever you do. | 00:22:03 | |
| OK. | 00:22:07 | |
| You know, Andrew normally stick. | 00:22:09 | |
| I'm going to stick around. How many? How many acres is the farm? | 00:22:12 | |
| 200. | 00:22:16 | |
| To 80 something, isn't it? | 00:22:17 | |
| All right. We need to have that number probably in there at the resolution. Can you just remind me again what was the specific | 00:22:24 | |
| research? | 00:22:27 | |
| Yeah. So we'll have, you'll have to explain that because. | 00:22:31 | |
| Lisa and Canton or Ken was there, but Ben, Will and Bill won't know what. I can kind of explain it. Someone's gonna have to. Yeah. | 00:22:34 | |
| I think the applicant that wanted to do the research was going to divide the farmer like. | 00:22:40 | |
| 40 acre increments and on each 40 acres. | 00:22:46 | |
| They're going to do different soil practices. | 00:22:49 | |
| And take it to yield. | 00:22:52 | |
| And show. | 00:22:55 | |
| What these practices do to yield so farmers can use this information on their own farm. | 00:22:57 | |
| And then they're also going to open up their books financially and and do a cost comparative of what? | 00:23:01 | |
| What money was made or lost or. | 00:23:07 | |
| Or whatever. So it's actually, in my opinion, kind of a unique situation. You don't get too many farmers that are willing to open | 00:23:11 | |
| up their books and let people look. That's a very good point because it's not just about the yield, it's about the dollars per | 00:23:14 | |
| acre that they can make. | 00:23:18 | |
| Yeah, he was going to compare 33 methods out there. | 00:23:22 | |
| One is UW recommendations. | 00:23:27 | |
| For fertilizers and nutrients and stuff like that. | 00:23:29 | |
| The other one was he was going to try to maximize. | 00:23:32 | |
| Production. | 00:23:36 | |
| Which means higher inputs, higher cost. | 00:23:37 | |
| And then the other one was he was going to try to. | 00:23:39 | |
| Mix the 2. | 00:23:45 | |
| To maximize. | 00:23:48 | |
| Profit per acre. | 00:23:51 | |
| As compared to. | 00:23:52 | |
| How do I say that? | 00:23:57 | |
| You got, you got the maximum production and then. | 00:24:00 | |
| Maximum. | 00:24:04 | |
| Profit per acre. | 00:24:05 | |
| And that's it. Those two, those three, those I missed the third, the UW recommendations, right, maximize production, maximize | 00:24:07 | |
| profit for acre. And what's the third one? The UW recommendations, which means what nutrients? Just varying the nutrients, right? | 00:24:14 | |
| The UW recommendations is they'll, they'll tell you if you're going to grow corn and it's the second year of corn, what they what | 00:24:21 | |
| it needs for nutrients, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium and stuff like that. | 00:24:29 | |
| Of varying nutrients, yeah. | 00:24:36 | |
| Alright. | 00:24:38 | |
| Is there a potential for dead cap funding to bridge the difference? | 00:24:40 | |
| So the 70 versus 50, whatever it is. | 00:24:45 | |
| To the county, No. | 00:24:50 | |
| Are they going to do anything where they're actually? | 00:24:53 | |
| But maybe some private organizations like Sarah or something like that, is that possible to look at? Well, they, they, I mean, | 00:24:55 | |
| there, there's, there's options to do a lot of. | 00:25:00 | |
| To work with. | 00:25:06 | |
| Seed companies to provide free seed, but that's going to be between the landowner and the seed companies, not Dodge County. | 00:25:08 | |
| So so I don't see any way. | 00:25:15 | |
| That. | 00:25:19 | |
| Dodge County could. | 00:25:20 | |
| Profit above and beyond what he's willing to pay for rent. | 00:25:22 | |
| I mean that be between him and whoever see company chemical company. | 00:25:26 | |
| Fertilizer dealer, whatever he works out there. | 00:25:30 | |
| Here's another thought. | 00:25:34 | |
| Him farming it that way is going to cost him a lot more. | 00:25:36 | |
| To farm it that way. | 00:25:40 | |
| I would say he'd be costing him close to that amount. | 00:25:42 | |
| More. | 00:25:45 | |
| What? And if you find it conventionally, Yeah. | 00:25:47 | |
| OK. But Mike? | 00:25:50 | |
| But when you say farm it that way, you mean? | 00:25:51 | |
| For with all these varying things, he's doing research, right? Yeah. So that's good. OK. | 00:25:53 | |
| And then? | 00:25:58 | |
| They're actually going to study the soil quality as well, I'm guessing of the different lots. I mean, they're not just but. | 00:26:00 | |
| Not not right away. It doesn't one season doesn't make it. I think the output, the benefit is the output for Dodge County farmers. | 00:26:07 | |
| That's the bottom line. OK, so I'd make sure, Lisa, I don't know if you know of that. There was a committee that met so Ken and | 00:26:11 | |
| John and. | 00:26:15 | |
| Dale were on it, and who else was on it? | 00:26:19 | |
| Those just those three, OK. And then they looked at the bid. Dave and I were there. Yeah, they looked at the bids, Lisa, and then | 00:26:21 | |
| they made a recommend. | 00:26:25 | |
| Station and then once that happened then Dave said, oh, we have to find out the market value. So that was how the order this so | 00:26:28 | |
| this would happen like a month ago or something, right. | 00:26:33 | |
| Yeah. | 00:26:37 | |
| So if we do, if we do select that then do we put that in the packet? | 00:26:39 | |
| The because I haven't seen those. I have not seen that. | 00:26:43 | |
| Presentation. I have, I have it right here. Would we put that in the packet, the winning bid is that? Yeah, normal. | 00:26:46 | |
| And I think that if that's, we need to send it to our committee members ahead. Did you make a? | 00:26:52 | |
| Last time did you guys like sort of? | 00:26:57 | |
| Have a consensus about. | 00:27:00 | |
| Because you're saying there's three different. | 00:27:02 | |
| Yeah, we all picked the same one. | 00:27:04 | |
| OK. And which one was that? | 00:27:05 | |
| The one with the individual plots that we're talking about, right? The 40 different practices? | 00:27:07 | |
| None of them really had much. What's the name of the person though Is what's the name? It's a LLC, It's AG unlimited. | 00:27:12 | |
| And there's two people, Aaron Zilkey and Andrew Condon are partners in it. | 00:27:20 | |
| OK. | 00:27:25 | |
| And they're willing to. | 00:27:28 | |
| Not only open their books, but they're willing to present. | 00:27:30 | |
| Two groups of farmers or county board, whatever. | 00:27:33 | |
| Know what their findings are so. | 00:27:37 | |
| So I've got. | 00:27:42 | |
| I don't have to say. | 00:27:44 | |
| But I can send it to you. I've got the values. | 00:27:45 | |
| Like you were like, how do we? | 00:27:48 | |
| Put in value for it. | 00:27:49 | |
| Yeah, well. | 00:27:52 | |
| Quantifying. Yeah, that, but I also, yeah, we could do a summary, but I, I would like to have that present. | 00:27:55 | |
| Whatever the document from the bid attached to the. | 00:28:01 | |
| Our packet the resolution because that would tell the details right of it. | 00:28:06 | |
| Yeah, that's what that's what I think the right thing to do. | 00:28:10 | |
| I'm sorry, was that on the last time packet? No, no, no. It was. It was a. It was a. | 00:28:13 | |
| When they selected the bids, it was not an open. | 00:28:19 | |
| What was It was not those bids weren't all open. They they were making a recommendation. | 00:28:21 | |
| And if we, I think if we, well, we don't have it, I suppose we should have. I'll forward a copy to you right after the meeting. So | 00:28:26 | |
| they all, Lisa, they kind of gave me, gave a biography what they were going to do and stuff like that. These are just the bullet | 00:28:31 | |
| point value for the county board. | 00:28:35 | |
| So who's giving that? | 00:28:41 | |
| In the packet I imagine with no research right? Probably goes with the resolution I would think. | 00:28:43 | |
| Can well that's less than 20,000. OK, that's no, no. And and what's the, what's the other one? | 00:28:49 | |
| 200 per acre. | 00:28:58 | |
| Which is. | 00:29:00 | |
| Doing 54. | 00:29:01 | |
| 54,000. | 00:29:03 | |
| OK. So 54,000, OK. | 00:29:07 | |
| And I think we. | 00:29:12 | |
| When we put it in a packet, it would be. | 00:29:14 | |
| The bid with research. | 00:29:17 | |
| Bid without research. | 00:29:19 | |
| I think we need to book. The board would need to know that. | 00:29:21 | |
| OK, but then but then this board? | 00:29:26 | |
| If we choose to, we can make this is our recommendation. | 00:29:29 | |
| So. | 00:29:33 | |
| Is it? | 00:29:35 | |
| Appropriate then, because you're not supposed to put in. | 00:29:37 | |
| In a public meeting, all the bids, right? | 00:29:40 | |
| You know why you wouldn't? It's public. Can you? | 00:29:44 | |
| Bidding is open, you can't put it in. I just want to make so then OK, so then would be appropriate then to put the? | 00:29:47 | |
| To two bids in the packet then. | 00:29:54 | |
| People don't always do that though. | 00:29:56 | |
| Yeah, I know people. | 00:29:59 | |
| I know they don't. I know we had three for the research. I don't know how many came in for the. | 00:30:01 | |
| Other one, I think there were, yeah. So there were 4, but one guy. | 00:30:05 | |
| Two of them were the same person. | 00:30:09 | |
| You know, I've seen a lot of other committees. | 00:30:12 | |
| Over the years and they say we received a number of bids. | 00:30:14 | |
| And. | 00:30:18 | |
| We believe this is the most appropriate bid because it quantifies soil practices and it provides farmer with data back | 00:30:19 | |
| recommendations and it can help farmers identify diminishing returns. It can link market to blah, blah, blah. It can do this. It | 00:30:26 | |
| can measure how soil organic matter, cycling, water retention, blah, blah, blah. | 00:30:32 | |
| Like that's why you say which bed you took and why it's good. We're the ones who analyze the bids. We don't want the county board. | 00:30:39 | |
| To reanalyze. So we're not, I don't think you should give it to him. That's what every other committee does. So we would, but we | 00:30:47 | |
| would include the one that winning. | 00:30:51 | |
| Correct with all the details. I concur with that idea. That makes consensus. I think that's fine. I think that's. | 00:30:55 | |
| So I sent you. | 00:31:03 | |
| This their bullet points the research. | 00:31:04 | |
| I don't know, may or may not. I'm guessing their packet describes the research and this is value for the board to understand. | 00:31:08 | |
| But it would be nice because this is generated. | 00:31:15 | |
| Right. | 00:31:18 | |
| If whoever. | 00:31:20 | |
| You know is looking at this. | 00:31:22 | |
| And maybe. | 00:31:24 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:31:25 | |
| You. | 00:31:25 | |
| In AG. | 00:31:27 | |
| I could add you. | 00:31:29 | |
| And so you could say, no, that's not actually something that's a value for this study. There's like 6 or 9 points. So maybe I | 00:31:30 | |
| should. | 00:31:34 | |
| You summarize it very well. What the? | 00:31:39 | |
| The memo would be like when we have memo resolutions. | 00:31:42 | |
| But I'm sending, I'll add you to the Memphis because. | 00:31:47 | |
| Just in case you go no, that's. | 00:31:51 | |
| I tried to describe the study but. | 00:31:53 | |
| You know, I may be off, so I'm going to add you, Mr. Chair. | 00:31:56 | |
| OK, committee. So what's your? | 00:32:02 | |
| We have a result. Do we have a motion then to? | 00:32:04 | |
| Move this forward to the County Board tomorrow. | 00:32:08 | |
| Yeah, I do. I'll also move that we go with the. | 00:32:10 | |
| With the the $200 conservation proposal. | 00:32:13 | |
| And the the research farm proposal. | 00:32:17 | |
| OK, so we have a first and a second. Is there any further discussion except then Dave will work with you and Kim then and John | 00:32:20 | |
| you'll stay after? Yeah, I did. I will stay after. Anyone else want to they can to make sure that the wording is reflective of our | 00:32:26 | |
| discussion and of what Lisa talked about and for description on the. | 00:32:32 | |
| You know, we want to make sure it's reflective. | 00:32:38 | |
| And then? | 00:32:40 | |
| Good. And then John, you'll put. | 00:32:42 | |
| Sorry. When we send out the amended agenda today, then that will have that resolution and will it have a copy of the bid, does | 00:32:45 | |
| that sound? | 00:32:49 | |
| Correct out to every. | 00:32:52 | |
| Yeah, I think. | 00:32:54 | |
| If John could do the. | 00:32:55 | |
| The memo to go with it. | 00:32:57 | |
| I sent you a copy of it. OK. And then the other and then the other thing to discuss just briefly is we would. | 00:32:58 | |
| If possible. | 00:33:04 | |
| As soon as this meeting is included, could you ask Will? | 00:33:05 | |
| I think and if he can't come, I if it's possible. | 00:33:08 | |
| Give us a 2 two-minute video. Maybe I just because he's the he's their foremost expert or he can send something. I mean, I'll be | 00:33:13 | |
| at the meeting too, so. | 00:33:16 | |
| Sending something is fine too. If they recognitional question, well somebody from the highway committee question about how they're | 00:33:20 | |
| going to pay their expenses, I mean, is that already been taken care of? | 00:33:25 | |
| Yeah, we've, we've talked to Hwy. since they're an enterprise unit now. | 00:33:29 | |
| Any building that they have at the airport. | 00:33:33 | |
| They will build. | 00:33:36 | |
| Back to the county. | 00:33:37 | |
| Maybe before the? | 00:33:40 | |
| Before we consider it to let the county board know of the change that it. | 00:33:44 | |
| Or do we? | 00:33:48 | |
| Do want to let him know? Went from Hwy. to this that it changed. I don't know if you want to tell him. I just don't. Who cares? I | 00:33:48 | |
| don't care, but I just don't think they care. Only only if somebody asks. OK, somebody asks. | 00:33:53 | |
| Just to be careful, if you want to meet after the meeting and discuss this, you just need to not have a quorum. | 00:34:01 | |
| So this be me and John. | 00:34:07 | |
| Yep, that basically 2 I think right? | 00:34:09 | |
| So you can't have three or four of us. Yeah, that's true. | 00:34:12 | |
| Right, Yeah, with the seven member committee. | 00:34:16 | |
| Thank you. | 00:34:19 | |
| So I'm just pointing that out. That would actually not be a public meeting. OK. Are you guys satisfied with just John and I? | 00:34:20 | |
| With that is that. | 00:34:26 | |
| OK, already emailed you my things you can look at. | 00:34:28 | |
| I think I emailed you. Any other discussion? | 00:34:32 | |
| This is the right message for producers that this is of interest to the whole county. | 00:34:34 | |
| It is, and it's all 16,000. It's a lot of good information. | 00:34:40 | |
| Also it to me, it excites our conservationists because when we talked about this last year on the farm, all your employees were | 00:34:44 | |
| like really excited. I was like, I never seen him excited like that before that. | 00:34:50 | |
| You know what I mean hands on and I for our conservation department, it's not just hands on its location, location that like this | 00:34:56 | |
| is research that is that see that's something that I didn't put in there. So you. | 00:35:01 | |
| Really that is a key part that I. | 00:35:07 | |
| Is not in here. | 00:35:10 | |
| That. | 00:35:11 | |
| It has a direct application. | 00:35:12 | |
| Because it's soil in Dodge County. | 00:35:14 | |
| All right, any other discussion? | 00:35:17 | |
| Those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:35:19 | |
| Aye. | 00:35:22 | |
| Those opposed. | 00:35:23 | |
| All right, you got it, Dave. And then we'll. | 00:35:24 | |
| Get going on this. | 00:35:26 | |
| All right, let's go back up to. | 00:35:29 | |
| Cheryl, I guess. | 00:35:31 | |
| Cheryl, what do we? | 00:35:33 | |
| You do I able to identify 3. | 00:35:36 | |
| There was a tie between 2:00. | 00:35:40 | |
| OK, the three names would be Ken Weniger. | 00:35:43 | |
| And let me see. | 00:35:47 | |
| Mike Hanna Berry and Adam Lechner. | 00:35:49 | |
| Are the three names that had the most votes. | 00:35:53 | |
| OK, we need a motion to approve those three names to be. | 00:35:56 | |
| Sent to the. | 00:36:00 | |
| Court right that the court. | 00:36:01 | |
| OK, do you need a motion? | 00:36:03 | |
| Hey, John. | 00:36:04 | |
| Is first we need. We have. | 00:36:06 | |
| I'll second. | 00:36:08 | |
| OK, then second. | 00:36:09 | |
| Any further discussion? | 00:36:11 | |
| OK, those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:36:13 | |
| Aye, those opposed. | 00:36:15 | |
| Comment The board doesn't know what they have. When they have Mike Henry come, it's going to be. | 00:36:17 | |
| What? What were you thinking? | 00:36:24 | |
| Well, three of us are on the FSA committee, so we've had to deal with Mike. | 00:36:28 | |
| Their meetings are going to be longer. | 00:36:37 | |
| That's all. | 00:36:39 | |
| OK. I'm going to move on to the well testing. | 00:36:44 | |
| We're going to have that presentation tomorrow night and we've kind of already been talking about it. | 00:36:48 | |
| And the recommendation? | 00:36:53 | |
| John, do you want to talk about this resolution to the committee? Yeah, we had three rec. | 00:36:55 | |
| 3 proposals from. | 00:37:01 | |
| Emissary to come back for future well testing. | 00:37:04 | |
| First one was scenario A. It was continue the program as is. | 00:37:08 | |
| Testing the entire county, which would cost about $33,000 a year. | 00:37:14 | |
| Scenario B was to come back and focus on. | 00:37:20 | |
| The townships of Fox Lake. | 00:37:26 | |
| Trenton and Lam. | 00:37:28 | |
| And include any other well that tested 1 milligram per liter or higher in nitrates that would include an additional 73 wells. | 00:37:30 | |
| And that came in at 17,506 dollars. | 00:37:39 | |
| And the last scenario was. | 00:37:44 | |
| To include. | 00:37:47 | |
| The townships of Fox Lake, Trenton and Lamyra. | 00:37:48 | |
| And any wells that tested 5 milligrams per liter or higher? | 00:37:52 | |
| Spread throughout the rest of the county, which is an additional. | 00:37:57 | |
| 38 wells. | 00:37:59 | |
| At $14,036, what was the difference in the milliliters of the? | 00:38:01 | |
| Two and three, one milligram, up to 5 milligrams. | 00:38:07 | |
| And versus milliliters, so the second milliliters, I'm sorry, the milligrams per liter, milligrams per liter. | 00:38:10 | |
| So they're both the same measure. All right, So what was the second one? | 00:38:19 | |
| 55 grams, 5 milligrams and the first one is 1 milligram. | 00:38:24 | |
| Right, so. | 00:38:28 | |
| The first one being. | 00:38:29 | |
| Committee to option two, yeah. | 00:38:31 | |
| The committee selected scenario B, which is option 2, the 1 milligram per liter or higher, and the three townships. | 00:38:33 | |
| For a cost of $17,506.00 per year. | 00:38:40 | |
| So that's the resolution that is sitting there in front of you. | 00:38:44 | |
| Lot support. | 00:38:48 | |
| So I'd move for resolution. | 00:38:51 | |
| 2 for well testing. | 00:38:53 | |
| At a cost of about 17,000. OK. We have a motion for resolution option 2. Do we have a second? | 00:38:55 | |
| I'll second it. OK, John, seconds. | 00:39:02 | |
| Is there any further discussion? | 00:39:04 | |
| And then he will be there tomorrow night, right? | 00:39:06 | |
| Yes. | 00:39:08 | |
| So he'll be presenting tomorrow night. | 00:39:09 | |
| Kevin will be so. | 00:39:11 | |
| All right, those in favor signify by saying aye, aye, those opposed. | 00:39:15 | |
| OK. | 00:39:20 | |
| Get this sign in. | 00:39:21 | |
| Get going. | 00:39:23 | |
| All right. | 00:39:25 | |
| Go ahead and talk about the geological and Natural History. | 00:39:27 | |
| Ours next study. | 00:39:30 | |
| OK, I got a phone call from from them. | 00:39:32 | |
| The other day they back in 2017. | 00:39:35 | |
| They worked in Dodge County mapping the depth to bedrock for the county. | 00:39:39 | |
| They're looking at. | 00:39:46 | |
| Applying for a grant that would come up with some. | 00:39:47 | |
| A method to. | 00:39:52 | |
| Predict. | 00:39:54 | |
| Arsenic levels in wells. | 00:39:56 | |
| And they want to work in. | 00:39:58 | |
| Fond du Lac, Dodge and Jefferson County. | 00:40:00 | |
| So I just. | 00:40:03 | |
| For informational purposes for you, I gave them a. | 00:40:05 | |
| Letter of. | 00:40:10 | |
| Recommendation that they would. | 00:40:13 | |
| You know be be approved for this grant. | 00:40:14 | |
| So. | 00:40:17 | |
| Hopefully. | 00:40:17 | |
| They'll get it and come up with some kind of a model to start predicting. | 00:40:19 | |
| Arsenic levels. | 00:40:23 | |
| It's based off of. | 00:40:25 | |
| Up to bedrock, soil types, type of bedrock and things like that. So. | 00:40:27 | |
| So hopefully they'll get the grant and be able to come up with that. | 00:40:33 | |
| Who? What's the group seeking the grant? Again? It's the US or Wisconsin Geological and Natural History Survey. | 00:40:37 | |
| Oh, that's the people seeking it? Yeah. OK. Thank you. We don't need any action, just for information, OK. | 00:40:44 | |
| OK, farmland preservation updates. | 00:40:51 | |
| Notices and non compliance. | 00:40:53 | |
| Fred. I left him up on my desk. I have two. | 00:40:55 | |
| 2 land owners that want to get out of farmland preservation. | 00:41:00 | |
| Cheryl, can you run up? | 00:41:04 | |
| I don't even know where they're at, tell you truth. | 00:41:06 | |
| Do you need to have the names? | 00:41:09 | |
| No, you don't need to have the names. | 00:41:11 | |
| Well, it's OK. Sure. I don't. She doesn't have to go up then. No, I'll get him after the meeting if you. Yeah. Yeah. | 00:41:13 | |
| So I just have two land owners that want to get out of the out of the program and both of them primarily their renters. | 00:41:18 | |
| With nutrient management plan is an issue for the renter so. | 00:41:25 | |
| So do we have to do anything in the committee level? | 00:41:28 | |
| Just just. | 00:41:31 | |
| Authorize the approval of it and then you'll have to sign the form when I bring the folders down. | 00:41:32 | |
| OK. Do you want that today? | 00:41:37 | |
| If you do it today, we can do it next month. That's my mess up. We'll do it next month. I'll bring that back next. OK. Is any | 00:41:41 | |
| other particular names and we'll say OK, yeah. | 00:41:45 | |
| OK. | 00:41:49 | |
| Deer Program. | 00:41:51 | |
| The DNR, that's the DNR deer donation program. Yeah, Venison donation is a program that we participated in the last several years. | 00:41:54 | |
| They just want us to. | 00:42:04 | |
| Update our signature saying that we're going to authorize the program. | 00:42:06 | |
| Somebody can shoot. | 00:42:10 | |
| That deer and take it to certain processing plants and then they donated and get the venison gets donated to the food pantries in | 00:42:12 | |
| the county. That's awesome. Do we need a motion or? | 00:42:17 | |
| Yeah, I need a motion. Do they announce? | 00:42:22 | |
| What processing plants will be will be willing to. | 00:42:24 | |
| Yes, they get back to us like before was like Leroy meets over members. Yeah, Leroy meets and Pernod Hazzi's are usually the two. | 00:42:27 | |
| There used to be a few more, but they've kind of backed out. We got mainly 2 right now. | 00:42:34 | |
| It's really nothing on our part to do other than. | 00:42:38 | |
| We get a bill, we pay it, and then we submit reimbursement. | 00:42:42 | |
| It's like the rest of the wildlife damage program. | 00:42:45 | |
| Money flowing through the county. | 00:42:48 | |
| OK. OK. So I'm sorry. | 00:42:50 | |
| Do you want? | 00:42:55 | |
| Sure, I'll I will move to a second. | 00:42:56 | |
| I'll second it. OK, Dale, second. | 00:42:59 | |
| Any further discussion? | 00:43:01 | |
| Can't those in favor signify by seeing aye? | 00:43:04 | |
| Aye, OK, those opposed. | 00:43:07 | |
| OK, recap of the tour that we took. | 00:43:09 | |
| Southern area tour, you want to is that for all of us to talk for anybody that went to the tour if you want to? | 00:43:13 | |
| Talk about the high points in the Torah, what you got out of it. This is your time to do that. | 00:43:20 | |
| The two niche farmers on the may think can make a viable income. I mean, it's a lot of work. | 00:43:26 | |
| All that small guy, what they're doing, 35 acres. | 00:43:31 | |
| Gives us a lot of credit. | 00:43:36 | |
| What did you say? I'm sorry. | 00:43:37 | |
| What did you say that what did I just they have niche farmers that are going after. | 00:43:39 | |
| One, it's a pumpkin patch. | 00:43:44 | |
| Second one has. | 00:43:46 | |
| Half dozen different. | 00:43:48 | |
| Flowers. Vegetation. | 00:43:49 | |
| The animals he's trying to find? Ignition. | 00:43:52 | |
| And it's. | 00:43:55 | |
| A lot of work for not much money. He markets direct. | 00:43:57 | |
| To consumers, yeah, that one he's talking was a 35 acre farm, real small. And then he does a higher end product, right. It's more | 00:44:00 | |
| expensive to buy his chickens or his. It's all organic, right? Organic, organic. | 00:44:07 | |
| What's all value added and it's not. | 00:44:14 | |
| Bare bones producing. | 00:44:16 | |
| The organic farms, a young man's game. It's not this man's game. | 00:44:19 | |
| He moves it every, it tells you every day he has to move the coops and everything. Like it was like why? Why? | 00:44:24 | |
| Just for cleanliness? Well, no grazing. | 00:44:31 | |
| Pardon me, rotational grazing. | 00:44:34 | |
| Literally he moves the whole thing like he has a chain on it when it goes out there with a tractor and moves the thing. | 00:44:36 | |
| Up and down the field challenges too. You know, like. | 00:44:42 | |
| Weather and rain and. | 00:44:44 | |
| Yeah, there's a lot of can he moves the fences. | 00:44:46 | |
| Or electric anymore he's got chicken and flowers and in hens hogs, hogs hog she any moves those too. | 00:44:48 | |
| Layers Layer chickens and broiler chickens. | 00:44:56 | |
| Yeah, yeah. Guy works incredible amount of hours. He was enthusiastic. | 00:44:58 | |
| Yeah. | 00:45:04 | |
| Does he have any helpers or is he just making profit by doing it himself? | 00:45:05 | |
| Family. | 00:45:08 | |
| Yeah, that was. | 00:45:12 | |
| I thought the first place we went to the reservoir was was. | 00:45:15 | |
| Was pretty interesting I we went to a reservoir. | 00:45:19 | |
| I I mean the size of that project that. | 00:45:25 | |
| And, and and was that that's an NRCS project, right? | 00:45:27 | |
| Yeah, what? It was a wetland industry. It used to be a peat muck farm. | 00:45:30 | |
| So. | 00:45:35 | |
| That it was all tiled and. | 00:45:36 | |
| Pumped out so that they could actually farm it. | 00:45:39 | |
| And. | 00:45:42 | |
| The thing with the. | 00:45:43 | |
| That type of soil is. | 00:45:44 | |
| You you mine the nutrients out of it, even though you're still continuing to apply nutrients. | 00:45:46 | |
| Eventually that that soil. | 00:45:52 | |
| Becomes. | 00:45:54 | |
| Sterile. | 00:45:55 | |
| So then they trying to figure out what to do while they just decided to turn it back into wetlands. | 00:45:56 | |
| So it's. | 00:46:02 | |
| The DNR bought the land eventually and it'll be public access for hunting, bird watching, whatever. | 00:46:04 | |
| But 1800 acres landowner because he he went in a wetland reserve first, didn't he? And they paid him. | 00:46:11 | |
| For the reserve then after he did that. | 00:46:18 | |
| Then he sold it to the DNR. | 00:46:20 | |
| Yeah. | 00:46:21 | |
| Kind of a coup for him. I thought it was a good deal, but it's a big project. They pay the same amount. | 00:46:23 | |
| Even if. | 00:46:29 | |
| I don't think it was quite the same, but it was. | 00:46:30 | |
| Yeah, significant, Still significant. | 00:46:32 | |
| It was a 1800 acres, 1800 acres. It was a huge site and it was. | 00:46:35 | |
| Joining a bunch of other land that had already been. | 00:46:41 | |
| Turned back into wetlands, but it wasn't what some controversy because there's a very large. | 00:46:44 | |
| Poultry operation. | 00:46:48 | |
| Adjacent to it. | 00:46:50 | |
| And they were really concerned about the avian flu. | 00:46:52 | |
| Brought in by the waterfall. | 00:46:54 | |
| Hmm, like. | 00:46:56 | |
| Touching people who were. | 00:46:59 | |
| Touching one birds, touching the other birds they're. | 00:47:00 | |
| Polluting the reservoir or what? | 00:47:05 | |
| There no no docs unlimited trying to do wildlife and get more birds and stuff there and then the neighboring farmer has a poultry | 00:47:06 | |
| and he doesn't want his it's a budding. | 00:47:11 | |
| Yeah, property. He doesn't want to affect his. | 00:47:17 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:47:20 | |
| And it's a very large poultry operation. | 00:47:21 | |
| Yes, huge. | 00:47:23 | |
| And he already had the flu once and they had to decontaminate the whole thing. | 00:47:26 | |
| Right. Yeah. | 00:47:31 | |
| So I thought that was that was good the other the the ethanol at the last. | 00:47:34 | |
| One the size that operation was. | 00:47:38 | |
| Impressive. | 00:47:40 | |
| That was huge. | 00:47:41 | |
| That ethanol operation that was, it was more impressive to me was. | 00:47:42 | |
| There water that they put back in the system was so clean it could put it directly in the river. They didn't have to go through a | 00:47:46 | |
| wastewater. | 00:47:50 | |
| Facility. | 00:47:53 | |
| Water. | 00:47:55 | |
| That go and that eventually goes into the Rock River, right Is that we? | 00:47:57 | |
| Talked about that. | 00:48:00 | |
| It's refined. That's super confusing. | 00:48:01 | |
| They have their own internal. | 00:48:04 | |
| Cleaning systems. | 00:48:06 | |
| Know that their end product was so clean. I mean if their water coming through their system was so clean, they didn't have | 00:48:08 | |
| naturally process. | 00:48:11 | |
| Just naturally, it was so clean. | 00:48:14 | |
| They use water in their conversion. | 00:48:16 | |
| To the ethanol and then the. | 00:48:18 | |
| Water discharge. The discharge is is is is what he's seen in the process they use. It is extremely clean. | 00:48:22 | |
| And it discharges back in. | 00:48:30 | |
| Very clean, cool, so that. | 00:48:32 | |
| And how many, how many dollars is huge money, isn't it? Where you and I are trying to figure out how much money a day? That's | 00:48:37 | |
| huge, right? Huge money that that plant thought. I heard that they produce 1,000,000 gallons of ethanol every three days. | 00:48:42 | |
| And gets what he said every three days. | 00:48:47 | |
| And thereby trucks how many loads? They were saying how many? | 00:48:49 | |
| Trucks a day is is huge, right? Or 200 trucks a day? | 00:48:52 | |
| 200 trucks a day. | 00:48:55 | |
| So. | 00:48:58 | |
| I like the fact that it wasn't just open to bigger companies. | 00:49:01 | |
| Smaller individual farmers could come in as well with their product and. | 00:49:04 | |
| Yeah. | 00:49:09 | |
| Bringing it in. | 00:49:10 | |
| Yeah, don't like me how they do that, that pricing that's something pricing on that thing the farmers can. | 00:49:12 | |
| That's mainly future contracts, right? That's what that is. No, no, not only they can just do it right then. | 00:49:18 | |
| Yep. | 00:49:22 | |
| Wow. All right. Any other discussion on the trip? I thought it was AI thought it was a really good trip and I'm glad we went and. | 00:49:25 | |
| Thank you John for. | 00:49:33 | |
| Working with now, is that going to go to? | 00:49:35 | |
| Counties to hold? Yeah. Next year, Dane County. | 00:49:38 | |
| It rotates through the southern area. That 11 counties it rotates around. | 00:49:41 | |
| So next year is Dane County and I think it'll be another. | 00:49:46 | |
| Three or four years before it comes back to Dodge. | 00:49:50 | |
| OK, well, I think it's a worthwhile. I think we should go again. | 00:49:53 | |
| In the future, I, I think we should. I think it's good. | 00:49:58 | |
| So, umm. | 00:50:01 | |
| OK, review annual work plan. | 00:50:02 | |
| OK, I included that in your packet. | 00:50:06 | |
| This is the annual work plan that I submit every year when I do the annual report, so it's due February or March. | 00:50:10 | |
| This goes to Dad Cap. | 00:50:19 | |
| This is for your information only at this point in time. | 00:50:22 | |
| Um, since there will be. | 00:50:26 | |
| Hopefully time enough for whoever replaces me to work with this. | 00:50:29 | |
| I wouldn't make any changes or recommendations until the new person comes on board and let them get a chance to. | 00:50:35 | |
| Float their ideas by you before. | 00:50:42 | |
| You start. | 00:50:45 | |
| In this part but. | 00:50:46 | |
| This is what was submitted for 2025. | 00:50:49 | |
| When when does the? | 00:50:54 | |
| 26. | 00:50:56 | |
| Plan it's, it's due, I think it's either February or March, whenever the annual report is due. | 00:50:57 | |
| OK, I just. | 00:51:06 | |
| Kind of feel. | 00:51:07 | |
| Out of it. I mean it's 15 pages in the packet. | 00:51:08 | |
| OK. | 00:51:12 | |
| It's it's. I did see it. | 00:51:13 | |
| It's it's in a table format. | 00:51:15 | |
| Yeah, OK. Thanks. | 00:51:18 | |
| John, do you have the 300 feet of stream bank shoreline earmark anywhere? | 00:51:20 | |
| Table one, sorry. | 00:51:29 | |
| I don't think it specifically. | 00:51:34 | |
| States that. | 00:51:36 | |
| If I remember right. | 00:51:37 | |
| Under that we don't. | 00:51:41 | |
| We have stream monitoring Senissippi Lake, Rock River watershed. | 00:51:43 | |
| Yeah, that's with the Wildcat Creek project. That is the. | 00:51:47 | |
| Rock River Coalition is doing that for us. | 00:51:53 | |
| So in the. | 00:51:57 | |
| In the 10 year plan. | 00:51:58 | |
| We have a percentage of increased land and. | 00:52:00 | |
| So annually. | 00:52:05 | |
| Somewhere in here that. | 00:52:06 | |
| Needs to be added right? Like. | 00:52:07 | |
| Added. | 00:52:09 | |
| .5 acres or 15 acres? Or you're talking like for farmland preservation and nutrient management plans? | 00:52:10 | |
| I have it in here, but it's not percent. It's acres in here. | 00:52:17 | |
| Continue convert that to. | 00:52:22 | |
| Percent, because the other plan is percent and anybody that reviews it goes well. How are we on our percentage? Well, I don't | 00:52:24 | |
| know. | 00:52:27 | |
| I don't want to have to do math. | 00:52:31 | |
| You've been arithmetic. | 00:52:34 | |
| So that's the only thing I'd ask you. And is that stretched around this or is that just in the cropland soil health and nutrient | 00:52:36 | |
| management section? | 00:52:40 | |
| That's just in the first part there. | 00:52:45 | |
| There there's another thing for Frontline Preservation down a little bit farther, where it says sign up 2000 acres new to the | 00:52:48 | |
| program every year. | 00:52:52 | |
| So there again, it's not a percent, it's an acres. | 00:52:56 | |
| And then next thing with the front with the. | 00:53:03 | |
| So all the phosphorus runoff are the. | 00:53:06 | |
| 5000 Nutrient management plans a different 5000 from the cover crops. | 00:53:09 | |
| I'm guessing that's. | 00:53:15 | |
| Same overlapping. | 00:53:16 | |
| Cover crops is different than nutrient management, and it's different than farmland preservation. | 00:53:19 | |
| Yeah, cover crop is a practice that you. | 00:53:24 | |
| I understand they're different. I'm asking are they on the same acre? | 00:53:27 | |
| They can't. They could be, could be, but they don't have to be. Yeah. | 00:53:30 | |
| Because if you add up five and five and get 10,000. | 00:53:35 | |
| It's actually not necessarily 10,000 because it's gonna say yeah, it's for a practice. It's not. | 00:53:39 | |
| Yeah. So I guess what I'm asking is if you can put in something here. | 00:53:46 | |
| That says. | 00:53:51 | |
| X percentage of. | 00:53:52 | |
| Total acres. | 00:53:54 | |
| With. | 00:53:56 | |
| Either. | 00:53:56 | |
| Nutrient Manage plans. | 00:53:57 | |
| Cover crop. | 00:53:59 | |
| Whatever else you want. | 00:54:01 | |
| In there so that. | 00:54:02 | |
| That one line is in there and says. | 00:54:04 | |
| This is exactly the number of acres. | 00:54:05 | |
| Installed. | 00:54:09 | |
| And then you have to have the number of acres like these two guys coming out. | 00:54:11 | |
| So that you show net increase. | 00:54:15 | |
| Makes sense. Yeah, OK. | 00:54:20 | |
| Is that going to be hard to do? No. | 00:54:22 | |
| No, it's just wording. | 00:54:24 | |
| So the 300 feet of stream bank and shoreline have 1000 feet of stream bank we're looking at. | 00:54:27 | |
| And about 20 feet of shoreland. Do you want me to send that information to you? | 00:54:32 | |
| Sure, OK. | 00:54:36 | |
| We're. | 00:54:46 | |
| We're going to get our information. We're having drones. | 00:54:49 | |
| Go around and get our. | 00:54:52 | |
| You know how many miles are done and we need to get done. We'll have that at LSID. | 00:54:55 | |
| Eventually, but there were so we that was one of our our. | 00:55:00 | |
| Projects from our. | 00:55:03 | |
| One of our grants that we got, so they should, we should have that like you know, like Lisas wanting, you know, measurement. | 00:55:04 | |
| X amount of feet. | 00:55:10 | |
| And then this is what we want to do. | 00:55:12 | |
| But but. | 00:55:14 | |
| All right. Any other discussion on the we just need the net. | 00:55:16 | |
| Then yeah, increase, increase, yeah. | 00:55:19 | |
| So we will, I don't know who we make a note. | 00:55:22 | |
| Would to Cheryl or someone? | 00:55:24 | |
| Or depending on the transition goals and we need to revisit this in January then? | 00:55:27 | |
| Yeah. | 00:55:32 | |
| December. | 00:55:32 | |
| December meeting depending on OK, so you'll still. | 00:55:34 | |
| Be here, I won't. | 00:55:38 | |
| I won't. | 00:55:40 | |
| Be officially here for the meeting now. | 00:55:40 | |
| Be sitting back there watching. | 00:55:43 | |
| Making faces in. | 00:55:44 | |
| Well, can you, can you do this? Can you make this change before the end of the year so we could see the I can, I can. | 00:55:46 | |
| But I would recommend. | 00:55:53 | |
| Not making a lot of changes here until you have the new person on board so that they can come to you with their ideas what they | 00:55:55 | |
| want to do well. | 00:55:59 | |
| This is the what the committee is asking. | 00:56:03 | |
| Right of the conservationist. | 00:56:06 | |
| Like so the committee. | 00:56:08 | |
| Like. | 00:56:10 | |
| What's the conservation is going to say? I'm not going to give you your goal of net acre increase. | 00:56:11 | |
| Like. | 00:56:17 | |
| Is he going to say I refuse? | 00:56:17 | |
| That's our goal. | 00:56:19 | |
| And so we need to see the net. | 00:56:20 | |
| Acre increase and I'll make them changes for you. | 00:56:22 | |
| Thank you. | 00:56:25 | |
| Just before you. | 00:56:26 | |
| Officially leave. | 00:56:28 | |
| Yep, OK. | 00:56:29 | |
| And then they can see that next year. | 00:56:31 | |
| Right. And then they'll have that layout and then they'll see. | 00:56:33 | |
| What it is we're asking for? | 00:56:36 | |
| OK. | 00:56:41 | |
| Any other further discussion? I think we've got that one done. Update on the newer storage ordinance. | 00:56:44 | |
| OK. | 00:56:50 | |
| Most of the permits that are being issued. | 00:56:52 | |
| This year last year we've had two permits issued, this year, 2 permits issued last year. | 00:56:55 | |
| They're going to the larger farms, the large caples. | 00:57:00 | |
| We don't see a lot of small farms like we did. | 00:57:03 | |
| 15 years ago putting in manure storage anymore. | 00:57:06 | |
| So most of them are. | 00:57:10 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:57:12 | |
| The last four permits we've issued has all been to. | 00:57:13 | |
| Either a farm that is considered a CAFO or. | 00:57:16 | |
| Somebody that. | 00:57:20 | |
| Is right on that edge that should be, and it's getting ready to become a capful. | 00:57:22 | |
| So we've issued 2 permits this year. | 00:57:27 | |
| And. | 00:57:30 | |
| Pretty much everything since I've. | 00:57:30 | |
| Come into this position because this is what I used to do. I used to design all a lot of these manure pits and stuff. | 00:57:33 | |
| But the standards have changed so much since since I've come up here. | 00:57:40 | |
| This is all pretty much done by private engineers anymore. | 00:57:44 | |
| We just reviewed the plans, make sure that they meet the standards and specs. They get their elevations right and stuff. We don't. | 00:57:48 | |
| Go through and redesign them or anything like that. | 00:57:56 | |
| You know. | 00:57:58 | |
| So. | 00:58:00 | |
| It's state, it's state law, pretty much, right. Is it state law or is it this is a county or account? It's a county ordinance. | 00:58:01 | |
| That's a county we need. | 00:58:05 | |
| Do we need to change our ordinance to is it, does the state update its ordinances? And I mean do we need to change most of the | 00:58:09 | |
| counties have already updated there? | 00:58:12 | |
| New ordinances. Ours is overdue. | 00:58:16 | |
| Are so do we need? So do we need to? Then that's something that you should look at. I was considering doing this this last year. | 00:58:18 | |
| As I was reading through there, I think the. | 00:58:28 | |
| The biggest thing is to possibly include. | 00:58:32 | |
| Leachate runoff from from feed storage pads. | 00:58:36 | |
| Where right now they're not considered anything with our ordinance. It's not a manure storage ordinance, but some counties have | 00:58:40 | |
| included them because of the runoff. | 00:58:43 | |
| Is very potent on some of that stuff. | 00:58:48 | |
| So this has been on. | 00:58:51 | |
| The agenda to do this for like 4 years. | 00:58:53 | |
| Yeah, Yeah, You've been talking about this for four years. I think you need to at least give somebody coming on a rough draft. | 00:58:55 | |
| It's just really not fair to go. And by the way. | 00:58:59 | |
| I haven't started it and you get to start it from scratch. | 00:59:04 | |
| It's just not fair. Yeah, yeah. To give somebody a break, it's, it's a hard job. | 00:59:07 | |
| This goes through. | 00:59:12 | |
| Public information, public input and public. | 00:59:13 | |
| Forms and stuff like that, It's not something that I would just sit down, draft myself. Like things like our land, water, why | 00:59:17 | |
| don't we just get started on it? | 00:59:20 | |
| I'm like, why? Why are we gonna let the new person have to do the whole thing? | 00:59:24 | |
| We can, yeah. | 00:59:30 | |
| I mean, I don't know who's going to be there, but. | 00:59:33 | |
| They're already going to be kind of, I would guess, overwhelmed. It's a, it's a hard job and. | 00:59:38 | |
| Any other comments on this? | 00:59:47 | |
| Just said I'd like to put it on the agenda next month and see what started on it. | 00:59:49 | |
| OK. What is that like a six month process John, probably at least time you go through the public, Yeah, you got line up a team of | 00:59:55 | |
| farmers that are willing to sit on the panel, other agencies to sit on the panel and. | 01:00:00 | |
| Well, like we did with our land and water plan, we went through it. | 01:00:06 | |
| Cover to cover, you know this is what it says. | 01:00:09 | |
| These are some recommendations. What are your thoughts? How do you want to change this? It's it's going to be 6 months plus. Yeah, | 01:00:13 | |
| I'm just saying to get started. | 01:00:17 | |
| Could you for next month, could you give us? | 01:00:21 | |
| Up an outline, maybe help help us so we understand the process. Yeah, yeah, that would be helpful I think and then. | 01:00:25 | |
| The other thing is that you know the farmers. | 01:00:32 | |
| We don't know who we're hiring. | 01:00:34 | |
| You know people. | 01:00:35 | |
| And so if you even started that process of asking people because otherwise. | 01:00:37 | |
| You know you've got somebody that doesn't. | 01:00:42 | |
| Even know them. | 01:00:44 | |
| Asking. | 01:00:45 | |
| Which is a 10 times harder ask. | 01:00:46 | |
| Yeah, OK. | 01:00:48 | |
| I think it's a volunteer thing. It's not hired, right? Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's it's volunteer. | 01:00:50 | |
| That'll be challenging in itself. I volunteer, yeah. | 01:00:55 | |
| OK. All right. We'll keep, we'll keep that on there for next month and we'll get the process going. | 01:01:00 | |
| OK, we did #15. | 01:01:08 | |
| All right, down to the reports. | 01:01:10 | |
| I guess I'm off. | 01:01:15 | |
| OK, my report smaller this month. We had a fast meeting, a different chairman and the meeting was like less than an hour. | 01:01:20 | |
| Compared to three hours, so that was nice. We. | 01:01:27 | |
| Swore in our new commissioner, Jim Rashi. | 01:01:30 | |
| We had to approve a grant resolution. We're trying to get a grant, a grant. | 01:01:36 | |
| For the cost sure grant for shoreline conditions. | 01:01:42 | |
| The only interesting thing which I thought was we got our. | 01:01:47 | |
| Our fish docking permit and. | 01:01:49 | |
| In this year, we are stocking, I've mentioned this before, we're stocking a lot more fish. We're working with Rock River Rescue | 01:01:51 | |
| and we got some private donations. So we normally. | 01:01:57 | |
| Do $9000 efficient this year we're going to do 14,000. | 01:02:02 | |
| We're going to do. | 01:02:07 | |
| Of usually was just bluegills in the past, now they're going to do large mouth bass perch. | 01:02:08 | |
| And bluegill walleye. | 01:02:14 | |
| And they asked for muskies, but the DNR refused to allow us to have muskies. | 01:02:16 | |
| So. | 01:02:20 | |
| So anyway, that's that's what's going on there. | 01:02:22 | |
| And that's it for me. | 01:02:25 | |
| We completed our. | 01:02:30 | |
| Mapping of Beaver and lake The sonar mapping every 100 feet across lake that. | 01:02:32 | |
| Data has gone through the DNR from. | 01:02:36 | |
| Putting into a lake bottom map and a lake condition map. | 01:02:39 | |
| We've submitted 2 grants surface water grants to DNR. | 01:02:45 | |
| One for Mill Creek shoreline restoration. | 01:02:49 | |
| And the second one for a vegetative study of Rakes Bay. | 01:02:52 | |
| Point intercept. | 01:02:56 | |
| And those are due today for if you have any surface water grants from the other districts. | 01:02:58 | |
| Trestle Bay. If you recall we removed in October 130,000 lbs of carp and Buffalo. | 01:03:05 | |
| We have done a vegetative study there and found. | 01:03:12 | |
| Lacking in most areas. | 01:03:16 | |
| And hopefully, without those rough fish, it'll return to a better state. | 01:03:18 | |
| Will be stocking a 4500 Bluegills in there tomorrow. | 01:03:23 | |
| To be the predator for the. | 01:03:26 | |
| Carp eggs and. | 01:03:29 | |
| Young of the Year. | 01:03:32 | |
| So we hope that becomes a bio stabilization of that Bay because of the. | 01:03:33 | |
| Blue Go. | 01:03:37 | |
| And over the next week, crystalline is going to go back in there to. | 01:03:40 | |
| To Electro fishing to get a count. | 01:03:44 | |
| Of how many carp and Buffalo are left in that Bay? | 01:03:47 | |
| So that'll give us a start point from October. | 01:03:51 | |
| Work over the summer time. | 01:03:53 | |
| And endpoint for the fall. | 01:03:55 | |
| We've started the same type of process for Rakes Bay off of Hwy. G. | 01:03:58 | |
| You've talked to a number of the. | 01:04:03 | |
| Residents. | 01:04:05 | |
| To allow us to enter the Bay through the property. | 01:04:07 | |
| So that's the first step to get the research boat in there to do the Electro fishing. | 01:04:09 | |
| And then eventually the commercial fishermen. | 01:04:14 | |
| To send down the population. | 01:04:16 | |
| So that's will begin and the. | 01:04:18 | |
| 30th of this month. | 01:04:21 | |
| First, the meeting to put that data together and. | 01:04:22 | |
| Get the people lined up. | 01:04:25 | |
| How big are the bluegills when you put them in there? | 01:04:27 | |
| Primary How big are the bluegills? 3 to 5 inches. | 01:04:29 | |
| And hopefully they reproduce over the winter and have some spawning in the spring and. | 01:04:34 | |
| They develop more little bluegills. | 01:04:40 | |
| But the primary thing is to eat the eggs of the carp. | 01:04:42 | |
| And get the fingerlings. | 01:04:44 | |
| So they don't reproduce anymore. | 01:04:46 | |
| Have you located any rigs Bay access points yet? Yes. | 01:04:49 | |
| The. | 01:04:55 | |
| Landings at High Ouija will allow us to bring the fishing boats in there. | 01:04:57 | |
| And the. | 01:05:01 | |
| Lawn Farm along Jeep will allow us to use their access to the to the. | 01:05:02 | |
| That's great. | 01:05:07 | |
| OK, go ahead. | 01:05:11 | |
| Yeah, OK. For Fox Lake. | 01:05:13 | |
| MCO reported that's the company that the. | 01:05:17 | |
| District hires to maintain a wastewater system. | 01:05:21 | |
| Had suggested five years ago to replace some pumps it would cost $20,000 each. | 01:05:25 | |
| And they kind of postponed that. | 01:05:30 | |
| And now they were informed that the pumps are almost double that price. | 01:05:33 | |
| So we still. | 01:05:37 | |
| On hold. | 01:05:39 | |
| And then the district made a request to the town of Fox Lake and they're represented by Liz because she was wanted to be. | 01:05:41 | |
| Ask the town to allow them to install straw bales. | 01:05:48 | |
| In Township road ditches wherever there was a lot of. | 01:05:52 | |
| High water flow. | 01:05:55 | |
| Fast water flow just to slow down the water. | 01:05:56 | |
| And at first, the town of. | 01:06:00 | |
| Approve the request and then even suggested a sink fence along Quaker farms which is a capable. | 01:06:02 | |
| Near Fox Lake. | 01:06:08 | |
| But she informed us that. | 01:06:12 | |
| After she left, the town reconvened a meeting and reversed her decisions so they could study it farther. | 01:06:13 | |
| A problem had occurred when. | 01:06:22 | |
| Fox Lake Preservation Organization. | 01:06:24 | |
| That's the the private group. | 01:06:26 | |
| Of Fox Lake. | 01:06:28 | |
| Paid for and installed a kayak launch in the town park. | 01:06:30 | |
| But they never informed the. | 01:06:34 | |
| Township that they were responsible for maintaining. | 01:06:36 | |
| The launch. | 01:06:39 | |
| So it was never removed during the winter and it got. | 01:06:40 | |
| Damaged severely over winter and the Township had to pay to repair it, so there was a little lack of communication there. | 01:06:44 | |
| Didn't go over so well. | 01:06:51 | |
| And then Tracy's also reached out to Cho Joel. | 01:06:55 | |
| I think it pronounced his name Pallardy. | 01:06:59 | |
| Who left EOR? | 01:07:02 | |
| To go to a different company and she wanted. | 01:07:04 | |
| From him discussions on well, there's a discord between EOR and Fox Lake right now. There's lack of communication. | 01:07:07 | |
| They did the lake management plan. | 01:07:14 | |
| And she wanted to ask him for suggestions. | 01:07:16 | |
| He probably had a sign, a nondisclosure 'cause that he couldn't work. | 01:07:21 | |
| For the Fox Lake, you know, after he left. But anyway, he was. | 01:07:24 | |
| Vacation at the time, so we're still waiting for a response. | 01:07:28 | |
| And then on the agenda was another discussion of the nano bubblers. | 01:07:36 | |
| But Liz Or say she's the new commissioner. | 01:07:41 | |
| Made the comment that she was questioning the science and feasibility of nano bubblers. | 01:07:44 | |
| So we just. | 01:07:49 | |
| Try to decided to go slow and just wait for more research before moving on any farther. | 01:07:50 | |
| And then Liz went on that she thought the best way to improve. | 01:07:59 | |
| Quality of the lake was. | 01:08:03 | |
| To do. | 01:08:05 | |
| To work with farmers in area to improve the watershed. So she wants to have another meeting to find out the best way to reach out | 01:08:07 | |
| to farmers. | 01:08:11 | |
| To change their practices to. | 01:08:15 | |
| Have cleaner water get into the. | 01:08:18 | |
| Into the lake. | 01:08:22 | |
| So she we're having meeting on September 22nd to discuss a strategy. | 01:08:23 | |
| To involve farmers. | 01:08:28 | |
| And then the only other thing I wanted to mention was. | 01:08:31 | |
| This happened the last meeting where? | 01:08:33 | |
| We're all aware of. | 01:08:38 | |
| Bill Foley's. | 01:08:39 | |
| Attempts to reduce carp and Beaver Dam lake and although they're not a severe problem and Fox lake we just thought that maybe we | 01:08:41 | |
| should reach out to see once. | 01:08:45 | |
| If we could get ahead of the problem and see if there's anything that could be done so. | 01:08:49 | |
| Liz Forward. | 01:08:54 | |
| A question to Arthur Watkinson, who is the DNR Lakes biologist. | 01:08:56 | |
| And he in turn contacted Mark. | 01:08:59 | |
| Bob Locke, the DNR fisheries biologist. | 01:09:02 | |
| What could be done? And I want to. | 01:09:05 | |
| I want to read you the the answer that they gave Liz. | 01:09:07 | |
| And this is. | 01:09:11 | |
| From Arthur Watkinson, he said. I know I have chatted with Mark about this in the past when that has been brought up. | 01:09:12 | |
| Mark doesn't. | 01:09:17 | |
| Does a much more complete and eloquent job describing car population dynamics. | 01:09:18 | |
| But in a nutshell, Fox Lake fisheries and tremendous state currently awesome walleye, largemouth bass, panfish populations, and | 01:09:23 | |
| even an occasional giant muskie. | 01:09:27 | |
| He said there is a population. | 01:09:33 | |
| Of. | 01:09:35 | |
| Low ability to produce offspring carp on Fox Lake. | 01:09:36 | |
| So, he said, the harvest of carb could. | 01:09:40 | |
| Elicit A compensatory response from the carp, causing more harm than good. | 01:09:42 | |
| By switching the population to. | 01:09:47 | |
| A higher. | 01:09:50 | |
| Ability to produce offspring. | 01:09:51 | |
| Carp. We kind of thought what? | 01:09:53 | |
| And also. | 01:09:56 | |
| Tracy reached out to another guy, the guy that helped us in the past with our wake board. | 01:09:59 | |
| Ordinance. | 01:10:05 | |
| This is John Richter and. | 01:10:06 | |
| Quite a large area. | 01:10:10 | |
| Off of Fox Lake, that's in the marsh and Elto Creek area. | 01:10:12 | |
| All that water comes into Fox Lake. | 01:10:16 | |
| And she wanted to know his opinion on this response. | 01:10:18 | |
| And his answer was. | 01:10:23 | |
| One of our guys is in your area frequently in the spring and summer. His exact statement about our marsh. | 01:10:25 | |
| Which is a major spring spawning area and habitat for carp through the summer. | 01:10:31 | |
| His answer was. | 01:10:36 | |
| To John. | 01:10:37 | |
| I haven't seen a cart back there in five years. The car boats don't even go back there anymore. | 01:10:38 | |
| And then John says that has been my experience. | 01:10:45 | |
| Two, there is a prize that. | 01:10:49 | |
| The population had been so intense in our Martian to spring and summer. | 01:10:52 | |
| That we could. | 01:10:55 | |
| Bump car, but the outboard every few feet. | 01:10:56 | |
| We had very few macrophytes then and often planted rice. | 01:11:00 | |
| Sago etcetera to try to get something going. The most we ever had was native **** tail. | 01:11:03 | |
| But the carp foraging pretty much tore everything out. | 01:11:08 | |
| But today it is a sea of **** tail and Lily pads. Rice has taken and returned in the last five years and overall it is a very | 01:11:12 | |
| healthy environment. | 01:11:16 | |
| So it's changed. | 01:11:21 | |
| I don't know why, but it's changed. | 01:11:23 | |
| That's all I have. | 01:11:26 | |
| What day did you meet? | 01:11:28 | |
| September. | 01:11:30 | |
| 11. | 01:11:33 | |
| Think the DNR fishery is correct? | 01:11:35 | |
| Once you get to a point where it's a manageable. | 01:11:37 | |
| Pounds per acre. | 01:11:39 | |
| So if you blow. | 01:11:41 | |
| £89 per acre. | 01:11:43 | |
| You can. | 01:11:44 | |
| Just use biological. | 01:11:45 | |
| Remediation. | 01:11:47 | |
| You don't have to capture them. | 01:11:49 | |
| If you're the higher areas. | 01:11:50 | |
| US fish a while. I've say it's severe and causes damage. | 01:11:52 | |
| So now you're fighting the reproduction. | 01:11:56 | |
| And the damage they do against the biological recovery. | 01:11:58 | |
| So at £89 per acre. | 01:12:02 | |
| You're OK. | 01:12:05 | |
| You can have natural means to control that. | 01:12:06 | |
| So my question is they said their carpet so bad in that area. | 01:12:08 | |
| And just by. | 01:12:13 | |
| Them planting made a difference, you think? | 01:12:15 | |
| I mean I'm trying to figure what made the difference. Combination of the game, fish and good vegetation. | 01:12:17 | |
| Habitat, uh. | 01:12:22 | |
| So that's why we're looking at Trestle Bay so hard. | 01:12:24 | |
| To see what that is, that's a microcosm of our lake. | 01:12:27 | |
| So by pulling out those fish to bring it down to a manageable volume. | 01:12:30 | |
| Will that allow that trestle Bay Area to be a good fishery? | 01:12:35 | |
| You do know Fox Lake was overrun? | 01:12:39 | |
| Was Northern Pike, in fact. | 01:12:40 | |
| So much so that it was reducing pan fish populations they wanted to. | 01:12:42 | |
| They asked the GNR to take the limit off a northern Pike, but. | 01:12:46 | |
| They refused. | 01:12:49 | |
| Pan Fish Beaver Dam Lake was went down to 1 bluegill per acre. | 01:12:51 | |
| So that's 6000 bluegills for the whole lake. | 01:12:56 | |
| That's pretty insignificant, yeah. | 01:12:58 | |
| We're putting more bluegills in. | 01:13:01 | |
| This week than is in the lake right now. | 01:13:03 | |
| SO40500A, Trestle and 15,000. | 01:13:05 | |
| Different parts of the lake. | 01:13:09 | |
| You need diversity. You have to have the diversity of the fish. | 01:13:12 | |
| Population. | 01:13:14 | |
| And hopefully you got that. That's what he's saying. | 01:13:15 | |
| John the Little Bluegills. | 01:13:19 | |
| Eat the eggs, but who eats the little blue? | 01:13:21 | |
| People. | 01:13:25 | |
| You think? You think they're overfished? | 01:13:27 | |
| Yeah, the. | 01:13:29 | |
| Pan fish for Beaver Dam Lake is at the Conservation Congress. | 01:13:31 | |
| Go from 25 back limit to 10. | 01:13:34 | |
| And that should happen next year. | 01:13:37 | |
| That's I was asking how big the bluegills are and when you put them in. | 01:13:39 | |
| 5 to 6 inches. | 01:13:43 | |
| But some people keep even the small ones. | 01:13:45 | |
| I was not good. | 01:13:47 | |
| But there are a lot of crappies in it. Like there are crappies but they don't eat the eggs, no. | 01:13:50 | |
| All right. | 01:13:57 | |
| Next meeting for the 27th, 8:30 so it'll be the end of next month. Is everyone good? Can we change that to the 20th? | 01:14:03 | |
| We have a Southern area meeting on the 27th at 9:00 AM. | 01:14:11 | |
| OK, hang on. | 01:14:15 | |
| I just. | 01:14:17 | |
| I wouldn't have any issues, I'm sorry. | 01:14:22 | |
| I won't long until that week I got selected for jury. | 01:14:26 | |
| So just I just shut the. | 01:14:30 | |
| So more likely I'll be here, but you know, don't know. | 01:14:33 | |
| You'll be in another building right over there. | 01:14:37 | |
| Their crimes coming up. | 01:14:40 | |
| All right, so. | 01:14:42 | |
| I'm fine with either. | 01:14:44 | |
| OK. | 01:14:45 | |
| Anyone else? | 01:14:46 | |
| So the question is you. | 01:14:47 | |
| Want to? | 01:14:51 | |
| On October. | 01:14:56 | |
| I'm sorry. | 01:14:57 | |
| It's scheduled for the 27th and you're saying there's an SAA meeting instead at 8:32 or 8:00? That's at 9:00. | 01:15:00 | |
| But it's in Madison. Madison, yeah. | 01:15:08 | |
| Let's all just put SA. | 01:15:15 | |
| Are you OK with the 20th Lisa? | 01:15:17 | |
| I think so. | 01:15:19 | |
| Go back to the 20th. | 01:15:23 | |
| Which is. | 01:15:25 | |
| A week before. | 01:15:26 | |
| And that would be at 8:30. | 01:15:27 | |
| Yeah. OK. So I'll go 8:30 on. | 01:15:29 | |
| October 20th. | 01:15:33 | |
| Any future agenda items? We've kind of already talked about some of the things we went on there. Is there any other additional? | 01:15:36 | |
| OK, hearing none, I call the meeting adjourned for the deletion of the agenda. | 01:15:46 | |
| Thank you. | 01:15:50 | |
| Should we have her retype this? | 01:15:52 | |
| You want to. | 01:15:55 | |
| I just gotta pick it up from like you did. Look at two years old efficient look at your. | 01:15:56 |
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Transcript
| We need to change that. I just, I just forgot about the agenda. | 00:00:00 | |
| On the minutes from last month, OK, I I forgot I made myself a note and read and then I just I forgot to mention it. | 00:00:03 | |
| Is that would that be OK with you, John? | 00:00:11 | |
| OK, Ben. | 00:00:13 | |
| OK. So just change that to September? | 00:00:15 | |
| And I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I had it on my. | 00:00:17 | |
| OK, those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:00:21 | |
| Aye. | 00:00:24 | |
| Those opposed OK. | 00:00:25 | |
| All right, you are up. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:00:27 | |
| I hope you all have had a good summer and enjoyed the. | 00:00:32 | |
| Interesting weather. | 00:00:36 | |
| And that you survived and nobody got blown away or wet. | 00:00:38 | |
| So I'm going to talk about two programs. One of them is. | 00:00:45 | |
| Almost complete. | 00:00:51 | |
| And the other is how upcoming program and. | 00:00:53 | |
| The point of doing this is really to give you a little bit more detail about how a community development educator works. | 00:00:58 | |
| One of the first. | 00:01:05 | |
| Programs I started was first impressions and I believe I've mentioned that and it's it's actually a fairly. | 00:01:06 | |
| Old tool, it's been around. It was developed by two extension educators and they put it together to help communities. | 00:01:15 | |
| Find ways to address the challenges they might have. | 00:01:23 | |
| Typically, the effort focuses on downtown, you know, sort of the the heart of the community. | 00:01:28 | |
| So Columbus approached me because I know the. | 00:01:34 | |
| County economic development director there and we ended up partnering with the city of Dodgeville. We look for communities that | 00:01:37 | |
| are. | 00:01:41 | |
| Have some things in common size, sort of. | 00:01:46 | |
| Kind of places they are. | 00:01:50 | |
| And we conducted our visits in June and July. Columbus went to Dodgeville in June and then. | 00:01:52 | |
| Dodgeville. | 00:02:00 | |
| Columbus sometime in July. Now, these are secret visits, so we don't let them know we're coming. | 00:02:01 | |
| Kind of like a secret chopper. | 00:02:07 | |
| And we had six people on our team and they had a list of questions they had to answer as they went around the town. | 00:02:09 | |
| How is the signage? What do the schools look like? You know, so we could give the community feedback. | 00:02:17 | |
| And because smartphones are so ubiquitous. | 00:02:24 | |
| We also had people take pictures because sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words. | 00:02:28 | |
| Then I transcribed all of that data and all of those pictures. | 00:02:34 | |
| Try to make that report usable. | 00:02:40 | |
| And it's now in Kelly's fine hands to make it look pretty. Because. | 00:02:43 | |
| I'm not a graphic designer and once we do that, we will share it. | 00:02:48 | |
| What we hope will come out of this actually some of the stuff that's already come out of it. | 00:02:53 | |
| Is that the communities that participate will have some. | 00:02:58 | |
| Concrete ideas that they can use to improve their downtown. | 00:03:03 | |
| A more sort of. | 00:03:08 | |
| Not. | 00:03:10 | |
| Obvious thing is to build partnerships between. | 00:03:11 | |
| The community members that participate. | 00:03:15 | |
| If you go on one of these trips, you're you're in a car for three hours, you have a chance to talk about issues and concerns. | 00:03:19 | |
| You have a top chance to talk about the things you saw and what you might be able to bring back to your own community. | 00:03:26 | |
| So it really is a lot about. | 00:03:31 | |
| Building that partnership. | 00:03:33 | |
| And what? | 00:03:35 | |
| Turned out to be sort of the motivating factor for both communities that. | 00:03:36 | |
| The people who? | 00:03:41 | |
| The gentleman who asked me and then my extension partner in Iowa County was they were working with groups that just. | 00:03:43 | |
| Have been sort of running in place and really hadn't. | 00:03:51 | |
| Taken on a project. | 00:03:54 | |
| And they are hoping that doing this will give them both a kick start. | 00:03:56 | |
| To really start taking on some things, because sometimes you just need something really. | 00:04:01 | |
| You know, obvious like. | 00:04:07 | |
| Are welcome to town signs are really ugly. | 00:04:09 | |
| Or the lights really could be improved. Or, you know, maybe we should add benches to downtown. And yes, there really are some very | 00:04:13 | |
| ugly welcome to my town. | 00:04:18 | |
| Signs Dodge Ville has a really great slogan. | 00:04:24 | |
| And you could barely read. | 00:04:28 | |
| Read it. The sign was like. | 00:04:29 | |
| I like earth tones. | 00:04:32 | |
| The earth tones were a bit much with that sign, especially since you're. | 00:04:33 | |
| Pretty much in the Driftless, and it's Wisconsin and it's green and it's glorious. | 00:04:38 | |
| Any questions about that program? | 00:04:45 | |
| It's a lot of fun to do. | 00:04:49 | |
| The next thing I wanted to talk about is to actually invite you to the small community forum. | 00:04:53 | |
| Which is in juice. | 00:05:00 | |
| On October 7th. | 00:05:02 | |
| And it starts. Registration starts at 7:30. | 00:05:04 | |
| And it's in the Houston Furred Community Hall. | 00:05:09 | |
| And. | 00:05:13 | |
| What happened is. | 00:05:15 | |
| Patty, how long ago was that? | 00:05:18 | |
| It was in 2022. | 00:05:21 | |
| OK. In 2022? | 00:05:25 | |
| Who's just furred, approached Todd Johnson, who's one of our community development specialists. | 00:05:28 | |
| To conduct what's called the charette. | 00:05:34 | |
| It's a community wide charette. What a fancy French word. Basically it's like this weekend long meeting of as many people as you | 00:05:36 | |
| can get together to rethink, reimagine your community. | 00:05:42 | |
| And Patty was sort of the extension representative there to help. | 00:05:49 | |
| And. | 00:05:54 | |
| When I came on board, they. | 00:05:56 | |
| Sort of referred me to the. | 00:05:58 | |
| People. | 00:06:01 | |
| Who? | 00:06:02 | |
| Participated in that. One of the things they did was to create an organization called Path. | 00:06:03 | |
| And they've been doing different activities around town and one of their action steps was to host. | 00:06:09 | |
| A small community forum these are. | 00:06:16 | |
| Forums that are held. | 00:06:19 | |
| You know, in five to seven places around the state every year, I think this is the 14th 1. | 00:06:21 | |
| And their opportunities for small community members to get together and. | 00:06:27 | |
| Talk about. | 00:06:33 | |
| Common issues and what works and network and. | 00:06:34 | |
| And. | 00:06:38 | |
| You know. | 00:06:39 | |
| Get together. | 00:06:40 | |
| And they asked me. | 00:06:41 | |
| To facilitate the end session roundtable session. | 00:06:43 | |
| And so I would, I worked with Tracy Malter, who actually used to work in our extension office. | 00:06:47 | |
| To develop key questions and a process to encourage. | 00:06:54 | |
| Dialogues so. | 00:06:58 | |
| You'll if you're from one of those smaller communities. | 00:07:00 | |
| It's a great opportunity to connect. | 00:07:04 | |
| And see what it looks like when. | 00:07:06 | |
| An extension agent facilitates a large group. | 00:07:10 | |
| So any questions about that? | 00:07:13 | |
| Are you going to have a? | 00:07:15 | |
| Like an evening event or some other that summarizes the events from that day or. | 00:07:17 | |
| Not that I'm aware of. That's on a Tuesday, is that right? | 00:07:23 | |
| I believe so, yeah. | 00:07:27 | |
| During the day, a lot of us have other things. I know it'll be difficult. | 00:07:28 | |
| I thought before, if I remember right, didn't didn't. | 00:07:34 | |
| Patty didn't didn't we have a meeting. It remember we had an evening in the night and then we had all the displays up and all the | 00:07:37 | |
| 22. | 00:07:40 | |
| So is this just a follow up? No, this is this. I don't know that you would call it a follow up. | 00:07:45 | |
| Did the group that was created path would grow out of the the charette? They're doing different activities and one of the | 00:07:51 | |
| activities they chose to do was to host one of these forums. So it's not an. | 00:07:57 | |
| Obvious outgrowth of. | 00:08:04 | |
| Of the charette, but it is related to it. | 00:08:06 | |
| So they'll they'll be talking about some of the projects that they. | 00:08:10 | |
| Accomplished. | 00:08:14 | |
| OK. I think it'd be pulling in all those architects from No, no, no, no. Those other guys, they did before. | 00:08:16 | |
| My understanding is Todd will be there. | 00:08:22 | |
| OK. | 00:08:24 | |
| But. | 00:08:25 | |
| Not the, not the rest of them. | 00:08:26 | |
| OK. | 00:08:27 | |
| All right, so and I think they did another charette was done up in Wapan, Wapan. | 00:08:29 | |
| Right. So the Rural Communities Organization is putting on. | 00:08:34 | |
| These small community forums. | 00:08:41 | |
| For community stakeholders in the local. | 00:08:45 | |
| Community to highlight local businesses. | 00:08:48 | |
| And it's a way to promote small rural communities. | 00:08:51 | |
| And they do them in different parts of the state. | 00:08:54 | |
| And small communities sometimes aren't equipped. | 00:08:57 | |
| To to put these on. | 00:09:01 | |
| But because. | 00:09:03 | |
| Because path. | 00:09:04 | |
| Is in Houston spurred a little village right here in Dodge County. | 00:09:05 | |
| Path is very committed. | 00:09:09 | |
| Two small community and so when the rural community. | 00:09:12 | |
| Reached out to. Well, they reached out to because. | 00:09:18 | |
| With with Pat and myself. | 00:09:21 | |
| Being involved with the charrette and whatever, they reached out to Extension, We reached out to PATH and then PATH said yes, | 00:09:23 | |
| we'll host one. | 00:09:27 | |
| So it's. | 00:09:31 | |
| It is a. It is a indirect response. | 00:09:32 | |
| To the charette. | 00:09:35 | |
| Because it has created a situation in which. | 00:09:36 | |
| Eustis Ford and Path of Eustis Ford. | 00:09:40 | |
| Is equipped to. | 00:09:43 | |
| To put on one of these small town. | 00:09:45 | |
| Community Forums. | 00:09:47 | |
| And it's it's a pretty cool thing. And I hope that you're going to be able to be there. We're hoping to get other people there. | 00:09:49 | |
| I'm going to be at a convention, so I cannot be there. Pat's going to be there. | 00:09:54 | |
| And anyone who's going to be there, but we, we pat, I'm sure will report out or provide you information with how it goes. | 00:09:59 | |
| Yeah, it's pretty exciting because at least with the round tables, we will keep all those notes and put them in a summary | 00:10:07 | |
| document. So. | 00:10:11 | |
| Any other questions? | 00:10:16 | |
| Any questions from the committee? | 00:10:20 | |
| Nope. Thank you. | 00:10:22 | |
| You bet. | 00:10:24 | |
| OK, I don't see. | 00:10:27 | |
| Other agencies here, I haven't heard anything. They may come later. | 00:10:30 | |
| OK. If if so, you're both a few minutes ago. I don't think either one of them are coming. | 00:10:33 | |
| OK. OK. Thank you. | 00:10:39 | |
| OK, John, you want to talk going on to 7. | 00:10:43 | |
| About the tell them what's going on with the drainage board and the appointment here that we have. | 00:10:48 | |
| That's this route. | 00:10:52 | |
| One one of the positions on Dodge County Drainage Board is going to become vacant next month. | 00:10:56 | |
| And the process to refill that position. There's several different processes, but as far as this. | 00:11:02 | |
| Committee is concerned. | 00:11:08 | |
| Is to make three recommendations. | 00:11:10 | |
| To the county courts because the Dodge County courts actually appoints one of the people. | 00:11:13 | |
| So there's a list of six people that have expressed interest. | 00:11:19 | |
| In sitting on the board. | 00:11:23 | |
| So what I need from you is. | 00:11:26 | |
| Just to circle three names, I'll have Cheryl tabulate it and then we can tell you what three you are recommending to move on to | 00:11:30 | |
| the courts. | 00:11:34 | |
| I do have. | 00:11:40 | |
| The actual letters that were sent packets for each of them if you want to take time to read through. | 00:11:41 | |
| So some of them are are actual farmers. There's a couple. | 00:11:49 | |
| Engineers that are in there. | 00:11:52 | |
| So you can. | 00:11:55 | |
| All right. So the procedure here is that we have to vote. | 00:11:58 | |
| You just have to. Well, you're not really voting, you're recommending 3 names. | 00:12:02 | |
| So, yeah, I guess in a way you are kind of voting. So what what's the procedure on this Then we do like a. | 00:12:08 | |
| Want to make sure we get the procedure. I think the majority majority would would rule so if the first sheet I sent around were | 00:12:17 | |
| all six names are on there. | 00:12:21 | |
| If you just circle three names that you. | 00:12:25 | |
| Personally would recommend. | 00:12:29 | |
| Then I can have Cheryl tabulate it and we can tell you who the majority. | 00:12:31 | |
| Who the three are that had the majority? | 00:12:37 | |
| Votes, I guess. So Do we need to take a few minutes and review this or? Yeah, if you want to read to them, yeah. I have no idea | 00:12:39 | |
| who does. I don't either. | 00:12:43 | |
| Yeah, you can go ahead and read through them, all right. | 00:12:48 | |
| We'll give you guys a few minutes here and we'll take a look at it and. | 00:12:50 | |
| So how do you want to go about this? | 00:15:13 | |
| I think. | 00:15:15 | |
| When everyone's ready, I think. | 00:15:16 | |
| Unless there's objection, I think we'll just do like a. | 00:15:18 | |
| Like you suggest a. | 00:15:22 | |
| For lack of better, it's not really secret, but we each. | 00:15:24 | |
| Select three names, give it the Cheryl, right? She tally it up and then yeah. | 00:15:26 | |
| And then, then when we get 3 names, then we vote. | 00:15:31 | |
| We'll make a motion to approve those three names to forward to the judge right to judge. | 00:15:35 | |
| Does that sound OK with everybody? | 00:15:40 | |
| OK. | 00:15:42 | |
| People on our names on the sheet winning tournament. | 00:15:43 | |
| No, no. | 00:15:47 | |
| This Cheryl, you'll come around and collect them from each of us then. | 00:15:48 | |
| Hey, you guys, Is everyone OK? Ready to vote one second circle? OK, wait. So tell me when you're ready, Lisa. | 00:15:51 | |
| Second, sorry. | 00:15:58 | |
| Thank you. | 00:16:20 | |
| I think it only take you a minute. | 00:16:36 | |
| To do this. | 00:16:39 | |
| Unless you want us to move on to the next thing, Lear. | 00:16:40 | |
| Figuring it out, we could move in, we could move on, OK. | 00:16:42 | |
| All right, Yeah. | 00:16:47 | |
| You all skip down to the airport discussion first. Is there anyone object? | 00:16:50 | |
| OK. | 00:16:55 | |
| Let's go down to item number 15. | 00:16:55 | |
| And OK, so prior to the meeting, the Chairman. | 00:16:59 | |
| Updated me. | 00:17:04 | |
| That he would like us to have a well, we. | 00:17:06 | |
| We checked with Kim this morning to see if this if we make a recommendation if it need to go to the county board. In the past it | 00:17:10 | |
| had not, but this is a change and Kim recommends that well if we make a a motion to select somebody. | 00:17:17 | |
| It's especially because it's going to be different criteria than before, because it's for education and for the benefit of the | 00:17:24 | |
| farmers. | 00:17:27 | |
| Different than just getting the the highest bid. | 00:17:31 | |
| That it has been recommended by Kim that it goes to the entire county board because of the change. | 00:17:34 | |
| And so because of that and the timing of it. | 00:17:39 | |
| What would happen is is if we. | 00:17:42 | |
| If we talk about this this morning. | 00:17:44 | |
| And we make a recommendation. | 00:17:46 | |
| Then what? Dave will make an amendment to the County Board agenda tomorrow night and then this would appear. | 00:17:48 | |
| On the county board meeting for approval for tomorrow night. | 00:17:55 | |
| Because of the timing, the way the timing works on this. So I don't know Dale, do you want to? | 00:17:58 | |
| Talk or Dale and. | 00:18:03 | |
| John and Ken, you guys been more involved? I don't. | 00:18:04 | |
| Talk about that, we want to make a. What do you guys thinking on this? | 00:18:08 | |
| The main reason? | 00:18:13 | |
| In recommending county boards because it. | 00:18:15 | |
| Planes for four years, so it's. | 00:18:18 | |
| OK, OK. | 00:18:21 | |
| OK. You did say that and I apologize binding for four year, 4 year agreement. | 00:18:22 | |
| It'll go through a couple sessions of our. | 00:18:27 | |
| County board, you know. | 00:18:29 | |
| OK. So we're looking for discussion on. | 00:18:31 | |
| Well, that's what I want. | 00:18:35 | |
| Hi, yeah, I don't know if he's available for Mona or not. | 00:18:38 | |
| I don't know if would you allow us to put him just for a few minutes beforehand. If you're going to change the agenda, could we | 00:18:43 | |
| change that also? | 00:18:47 | |
| But we at the immediate conclusion of this meeting. | 00:18:52 | |
| We all. | 00:18:55 | |
| Resignation. Well, yeah, yeah, OK. | 00:18:59 | |
| OK. | 00:19:01 | |
| I I would, I would really like that. | 00:19:03 | |
| Yes. | 00:19:04 | |
| So if the chairman said he would allow it, so if we do decide to go with a motion to approve it. | 00:19:05 | |
| That we had asked. | 00:19:10 | |
| To speak prior to the meeting to give a presentation on what what we're talking about here. | 00:19:13 | |
| If not. | 00:19:19 | |
| Could we get Will to do a video? | 00:19:21 | |
| I'll have to give him a call and ask him. | 00:19:24 | |
| Feel, because I'm not an expert at this, I feel. | 00:19:26 | |
| Would that be an option? | 00:19:31 | |
| Depending. I think you need to have the discussion here about first. | 00:19:33 | |
| OK. | 00:19:37 | |
| OK, so the. | 00:19:38 | |
| Let's do the the highest bid. | 00:19:42 | |
| OK. | 00:19:45 | |
| What would you have the extension? | 00:19:46 | |
| For taking the bid that works with UW extension and has. | 00:19:48 | |
| OK, research. | 00:19:53 | |
| Or the area. So OK, let's first talk about that. Do we need to make 2 motions or one motion? | 00:19:55 | |
| I think just one motion, OK, the first part, so we had what we did is we as you know, we solicited bids. | 00:20:02 | |
| And there was a committee. This is from the original. | 00:20:08 | |
| Of the farmers for. | 00:20:11 | |
| Educational. | 00:20:13 | |
| Purposes and I think they favored one and then after that in order to get value to the county board so the county board would | 00:20:15 | |
| know. | 00:20:19 | |
| How much the difference between a market value and educational value? But although we're still getting money for the education. | 00:20:24 | |
| So that's what he's talking about. We got then additional bids. My understanding is that correct then and and and is approximately | 00:20:31 | |
| a $20,000, right, $20,000 difference. | 00:20:36 | |
| Between the market. | 00:20:41 | |
| And. | 00:20:43 | |
| Selection if we if we just rented the land. | 00:20:44 | |
| At the airport. | 00:20:47 | |
| Just to get the most money we could would be 20,000 more than if we. | 00:20:49 | |
| Decided to do an educational harm. Did I say that correctly? | 00:20:53 | |
| OK, there's a reason not to call it a research farm. Research, research, research. I'm sorry, research. When you talk to the | 00:20:57 | |
| county board, I'm going to say. | 00:21:01 | |
| The total amount of 1 bidden total money other bid. | 00:21:05 | |
| And then let people do the math themselves. I just think. | 00:21:08 | |
| The whole amount would be better to. | 00:21:11 | |
| Yeah, I think yeah, it's 71. | 00:21:12 | |
| 510 I think was the highest bid. | 00:21:16 | |
| And then? | 00:21:19 | |
| Bid with with the research was $200.00 an acre. | 00:21:22 | |
| And moreover that. | 00:21:26 | |
| Where that comes out? | 00:21:29 | |
| You know, I think we we need to show the value of research. | 00:21:32 | |
| I'm fine if well, when you, whoever makes a motion, if they want to have it written that way, we don't have. | 00:21:38 | |
| It needs to be drafted a certain way is what you're saying. | 00:21:44 | |
| We won't have that in this meeting, but we could have it for tomorrow night for prayer. The meeting with Quick, I'll sign it | 00:21:47 | |
| before. Would that be accepted? | 00:21:50 | |
| Or do we have to we have to have in the packet? | 00:21:53 | |
| We we would like to. | 00:21:55 | |
| Send it out. Somebody stick around and sign it. And Kim, Kim's over at highway right now. But. | 00:21:57 | |
| She will draft it when she gets back, whatever you do. | 00:22:03 | |
| OK. | 00:22:07 | |
| You know, Andrew normally stick. | 00:22:09 | |
| I'm going to stick around. How many? How many acres is the farm? | 00:22:12 | |
| 200. | 00:22:16 | |
| To 80 something, isn't it? | 00:22:17 | |
| All right. We need to have that number probably in there at the resolution. Can you just remind me again what was the specific | 00:22:24 | |
| research? | 00:22:27 | |
| Yeah. So we'll have, you'll have to explain that because. | 00:22:31 | |
| Lisa and Canton or Ken was there, but Ben, Will and Bill won't know what. I can kind of explain it. Someone's gonna have to. Yeah. | 00:22:34 | |
| I think the applicant that wanted to do the research was going to divide the farmer like. | 00:22:40 | |
| 40 acre increments and on each 40 acres. | 00:22:46 | |
| They're going to do different soil practices. | 00:22:49 | |
| And take it to yield. | 00:22:52 | |
| And show. | 00:22:55 | |
| What these practices do to yield so farmers can use this information on their own farm. | 00:22:57 | |
| And then they're also going to open up their books financially and and do a cost comparative of what? | 00:23:01 | |
| What money was made or lost or. | 00:23:07 | |
| Or whatever. So it's actually, in my opinion, kind of a unique situation. You don't get too many farmers that are willing to open | 00:23:11 | |
| up their books and let people look. That's a very good point because it's not just about the yield, it's about the dollars per | 00:23:14 | |
| acre that they can make. | 00:23:18 | |
| Yeah, he was going to compare 33 methods out there. | 00:23:22 | |
| One is UW recommendations. | 00:23:27 | |
| For fertilizers and nutrients and stuff like that. | 00:23:29 | |
| The other one was he was going to try to maximize. | 00:23:32 | |
| Production. | 00:23:36 | |
| Which means higher inputs, higher cost. | 00:23:37 | |
| And then the other one was he was going to try to. | 00:23:39 | |
| Mix the 2. | 00:23:45 | |
| To maximize. | 00:23:48 | |
| Profit per acre. | 00:23:51 | |
| As compared to. | 00:23:52 | |
| How do I say that? | 00:23:57 | |
| You got, you got the maximum production and then. | 00:24:00 | |
| Maximum. | 00:24:04 | |
| Profit per acre. | 00:24:05 | |
| And that's it. Those two, those three, those I missed the third, the UW recommendations, right, maximize production, maximize | 00:24:07 | |
| profit for acre. And what's the third one? The UW recommendations, which means what nutrients? Just varying the nutrients, right? | 00:24:14 | |
| The UW recommendations is they'll, they'll tell you if you're going to grow corn and it's the second year of corn, what they what | 00:24:21 | |
| it needs for nutrients, nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium and stuff like that. | 00:24:29 | |
| Of varying nutrients, yeah. | 00:24:36 | |
| Alright. | 00:24:38 | |
| Is there a potential for dead cap funding to bridge the difference? | 00:24:40 | |
| So the 70 versus 50, whatever it is. | 00:24:45 | |
| To the county, No. | 00:24:50 | |
| Are they going to do anything where they're actually? | 00:24:53 | |
| But maybe some private organizations like Sarah or something like that, is that possible to look at? Well, they, they, I mean, | 00:24:55 | |
| there, there's, there's options to do a lot of. | 00:25:00 | |
| To work with. | 00:25:06 | |
| Seed companies to provide free seed, but that's going to be between the landowner and the seed companies, not Dodge County. | 00:25:08 | |
| So so I don't see any way. | 00:25:15 | |
| That. | 00:25:19 | |
| Dodge County could. | 00:25:20 | |
| Profit above and beyond what he's willing to pay for rent. | 00:25:22 | |
| I mean that be between him and whoever see company chemical company. | 00:25:26 | |
| Fertilizer dealer, whatever he works out there. | 00:25:30 | |
| Here's another thought. | 00:25:34 | |
| Him farming it that way is going to cost him a lot more. | 00:25:36 | |
| To farm it that way. | 00:25:40 | |
| I would say he'd be costing him close to that amount. | 00:25:42 | |
| More. | 00:25:45 | |
| What? And if you find it conventionally, Yeah. | 00:25:47 | |
| OK. But Mike? | 00:25:50 | |
| But when you say farm it that way, you mean? | 00:25:51 | |
| For with all these varying things, he's doing research, right? Yeah. So that's good. OK. | 00:25:53 | |
| And then? | 00:25:58 | |
| They're actually going to study the soil quality as well, I'm guessing of the different lots. I mean, they're not just but. | 00:26:00 | |
| Not not right away. It doesn't one season doesn't make it. I think the output, the benefit is the output for Dodge County farmers. | 00:26:07 | |
| That's the bottom line. OK, so I'd make sure, Lisa, I don't know if you know of that. There was a committee that met so Ken and | 00:26:11 | |
| John and. | 00:26:15 | |
| Dale were on it, and who else was on it? | 00:26:19 | |
| Those just those three, OK. And then they looked at the bid. Dave and I were there. Yeah, they looked at the bids, Lisa, and then | 00:26:21 | |
| they made a recommend. | 00:26:25 | |
| Station and then once that happened then Dave said, oh, we have to find out the market value. So that was how the order this so | 00:26:28 | |
| this would happen like a month ago or something, right. | 00:26:33 | |
| Yeah. | 00:26:37 | |
| So if we do, if we do select that then do we put that in the packet? | 00:26:39 | |
| The because I haven't seen those. I have not seen that. | 00:26:43 | |
| Presentation. I have, I have it right here. Would we put that in the packet, the winning bid is that? Yeah, normal. | 00:26:46 | |
| And I think that if that's, we need to send it to our committee members ahead. Did you make a? | 00:26:52 | |
| Last time did you guys like sort of? | 00:26:57 | |
| Have a consensus about. | 00:27:00 | |
| Because you're saying there's three different. | 00:27:02 | |
| Yeah, we all picked the same one. | 00:27:04 | |
| OK. And which one was that? | 00:27:05 | |
| The one with the individual plots that we're talking about, right? The 40 different practices? | 00:27:07 | |
| None of them really had much. What's the name of the person though Is what's the name? It's a LLC, It's AG unlimited. | 00:27:12 | |
| And there's two people, Aaron Zilkey and Andrew Condon are partners in it. | 00:27:20 | |
| OK. | 00:27:25 | |
| And they're willing to. | 00:27:28 | |
| Not only open their books, but they're willing to present. | 00:27:30 | |
| Two groups of farmers or county board, whatever. | 00:27:33 | |
| Know what their findings are so. | 00:27:37 | |
| So I've got. | 00:27:42 | |
| I don't have to say. | 00:27:44 | |
| But I can send it to you. I've got the values. | 00:27:45 | |
| Like you were like, how do we? | 00:27:48 | |
| Put in value for it. | 00:27:49 | |
| Yeah, well. | 00:27:52 | |
| Quantifying. Yeah, that, but I also, yeah, we could do a summary, but I, I would like to have that present. | 00:27:55 | |
| Whatever the document from the bid attached to the. | 00:28:01 | |
| Our packet the resolution because that would tell the details right of it. | 00:28:06 | |
| Yeah, that's what that's what I think the right thing to do. | 00:28:10 | |
| I'm sorry, was that on the last time packet? No, no, no. It was. It was a. It was a. | 00:28:13 | |
| When they selected the bids, it was not an open. | 00:28:19 | |
| What was It was not those bids weren't all open. They they were making a recommendation. | 00:28:21 | |
| And if we, I think if we, well, we don't have it, I suppose we should have. I'll forward a copy to you right after the meeting. So | 00:28:26 | |
| they all, Lisa, they kind of gave me, gave a biography what they were going to do and stuff like that. These are just the bullet | 00:28:31 | |
| point value for the county board. | 00:28:35 | |
| So who's giving that? | 00:28:41 | |
| In the packet I imagine with no research right? Probably goes with the resolution I would think. | 00:28:43 | |
| Can well that's less than 20,000. OK, that's no, no. And and what's the, what's the other one? | 00:28:49 | |
| 200 per acre. | 00:28:58 | |
| Which is. | 00:29:00 | |
| Doing 54. | 00:29:01 | |
| 54,000. | 00:29:03 | |
| OK. So 54,000, OK. | 00:29:07 | |
| And I think we. | 00:29:12 | |
| When we put it in a packet, it would be. | 00:29:14 | |
| The bid with research. | 00:29:17 | |
| Bid without research. | 00:29:19 | |
| I think we need to book. The board would need to know that. | 00:29:21 | |
| OK, but then but then this board? | 00:29:26 | |
| If we choose to, we can make this is our recommendation. | 00:29:29 | |
| So. | 00:29:33 | |
| Is it? | 00:29:35 | |
| Appropriate then, because you're not supposed to put in. | 00:29:37 | |
| In a public meeting, all the bids, right? | 00:29:40 | |
| You know why you wouldn't? It's public. Can you? | 00:29:44 | |
| Bidding is open, you can't put it in. I just want to make so then OK, so then would be appropriate then to put the? | 00:29:47 | |
| To two bids in the packet then. | 00:29:54 | |
| People don't always do that though. | 00:29:56 | |
| Yeah, I know people. | 00:29:59 | |
| I know they don't. I know we had three for the research. I don't know how many came in for the. | 00:30:01 | |
| Other one, I think there were, yeah. So there were 4, but one guy. | 00:30:05 | |
| Two of them were the same person. | 00:30:09 | |
| You know, I've seen a lot of other committees. | 00:30:12 | |
| Over the years and they say we received a number of bids. | 00:30:14 | |
| And. | 00:30:18 | |
| We believe this is the most appropriate bid because it quantifies soil practices and it provides farmer with data back | 00:30:19 | |
| recommendations and it can help farmers identify diminishing returns. It can link market to blah, blah, blah. It can do this. It | 00:30:26 | |
| can measure how soil organic matter, cycling, water retention, blah, blah, blah. | 00:30:32 | |
| Like that's why you say which bed you took and why it's good. We're the ones who analyze the bids. We don't want the county board. | 00:30:39 | |
| To reanalyze. So we're not, I don't think you should give it to him. That's what every other committee does. So we would, but we | 00:30:47 | |
| would include the one that winning. | 00:30:51 | |
| Correct with all the details. I concur with that idea. That makes consensus. I think that's fine. I think that's. | 00:30:55 | |
| So I sent you. | 00:31:03 | |
| This their bullet points the research. | 00:31:04 | |
| I don't know, may or may not. I'm guessing their packet describes the research and this is value for the board to understand. | 00:31:08 | |
| But it would be nice because this is generated. | 00:31:15 | |
| Right. | 00:31:18 | |
| If whoever. | 00:31:20 | |
| You know is looking at this. | 00:31:22 | |
| And maybe. | 00:31:24 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:31:25 | |
| You. | 00:31:25 | |
| In AG. | 00:31:27 | |
| I could add you. | 00:31:29 | |
| And so you could say, no, that's not actually something that's a value for this study. There's like 6 or 9 points. So maybe I | 00:31:30 | |
| should. | 00:31:34 | |
| You summarize it very well. What the? | 00:31:39 | |
| The memo would be like when we have memo resolutions. | 00:31:42 | |
| But I'm sending, I'll add you to the Memphis because. | 00:31:47 | |
| Just in case you go no, that's. | 00:31:51 | |
| I tried to describe the study but. | 00:31:53 | |
| You know, I may be off, so I'm going to add you, Mr. Chair. | 00:31:56 | |
| OK, committee. So what's your? | 00:32:02 | |
| We have a result. Do we have a motion then to? | 00:32:04 | |
| Move this forward to the County Board tomorrow. | 00:32:08 | |
| Yeah, I do. I'll also move that we go with the. | 00:32:10 | |
| With the the $200 conservation proposal. | 00:32:13 | |
| And the the research farm proposal. | 00:32:17 | |
| OK, so we have a first and a second. Is there any further discussion except then Dave will work with you and Kim then and John | 00:32:20 | |
| you'll stay after? Yeah, I did. I will stay after. Anyone else want to they can to make sure that the wording is reflective of our | 00:32:26 | |
| discussion and of what Lisa talked about and for description on the. | 00:32:32 | |
| You know, we want to make sure it's reflective. | 00:32:38 | |
| And then? | 00:32:40 | |
| Good. And then John, you'll put. | 00:32:42 | |
| Sorry. When we send out the amended agenda today, then that will have that resolution and will it have a copy of the bid, does | 00:32:45 | |
| that sound? | 00:32:49 | |
| Correct out to every. | 00:32:52 | |
| Yeah, I think. | 00:32:54 | |
| If John could do the. | 00:32:55 | |
| The memo to go with it. | 00:32:57 | |
| I sent you a copy of it. OK. And then the other and then the other thing to discuss just briefly is we would. | 00:32:58 | |
| If possible. | 00:33:04 | |
| As soon as this meeting is included, could you ask Will? | 00:33:05 | |
| I think and if he can't come, I if it's possible. | 00:33:08 | |
| Give us a 2 two-minute video. Maybe I just because he's the he's their foremost expert or he can send something. I mean, I'll be | 00:33:13 | |
| at the meeting too, so. | 00:33:16 | |
| Sending something is fine too. If they recognitional question, well somebody from the highway committee question about how they're | 00:33:20 | |
| going to pay their expenses, I mean, is that already been taken care of? | 00:33:25 | |
| Yeah, we've, we've talked to Hwy. since they're an enterprise unit now. | 00:33:29 | |
| Any building that they have at the airport. | 00:33:33 | |
| They will build. | 00:33:36 | |
| Back to the county. | 00:33:37 | |
| Maybe before the? | 00:33:40 | |
| Before we consider it to let the county board know of the change that it. | 00:33:44 | |
| Or do we? | 00:33:48 | |
| Do want to let him know? Went from Hwy. to this that it changed. I don't know if you want to tell him. I just don't. Who cares? I | 00:33:48 | |
| don't care, but I just don't think they care. Only only if somebody asks. OK, somebody asks. | 00:33:53 | |
| Just to be careful, if you want to meet after the meeting and discuss this, you just need to not have a quorum. | 00:34:01 | |
| So this be me and John. | 00:34:07 | |
| Yep, that basically 2 I think right? | 00:34:09 | |
| So you can't have three or four of us. Yeah, that's true. | 00:34:12 | |
| Right, Yeah, with the seven member committee. | 00:34:16 | |
| Thank you. | 00:34:19 | |
| So I'm just pointing that out. That would actually not be a public meeting. OK. Are you guys satisfied with just John and I? | 00:34:20 | |
| With that is that. | 00:34:26 | |
| OK, already emailed you my things you can look at. | 00:34:28 | |
| I think I emailed you. Any other discussion? | 00:34:32 | |
| This is the right message for producers that this is of interest to the whole county. | 00:34:34 | |
| It is, and it's all 16,000. It's a lot of good information. | 00:34:40 | |
| Also it to me, it excites our conservationists because when we talked about this last year on the farm, all your employees were | 00:34:44 | |
| like really excited. I was like, I never seen him excited like that before that. | 00:34:50 | |
| You know what I mean hands on and I for our conservation department, it's not just hands on its location, location that like this | 00:34:56 | |
| is research that is that see that's something that I didn't put in there. So you. | 00:35:01 | |
| Really that is a key part that I. | 00:35:07 | |
| Is not in here. | 00:35:10 | |
| That. | 00:35:11 | |
| It has a direct application. | 00:35:12 | |
| Because it's soil in Dodge County. | 00:35:14 | |
| All right, any other discussion? | 00:35:17 | |
| Those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:35:19 | |
| Aye. | 00:35:22 | |
| Those opposed. | 00:35:23 | |
| All right, you got it, Dave. And then we'll. | 00:35:24 | |
| Get going on this. | 00:35:26 | |
| All right, let's go back up to. | 00:35:29 | |
| Cheryl, I guess. | 00:35:31 | |
| Cheryl, what do we? | 00:35:33 | |
| You do I able to identify 3. | 00:35:36 | |
| There was a tie between 2:00. | 00:35:40 | |
| OK, the three names would be Ken Weniger. | 00:35:43 | |
| And let me see. | 00:35:47 | |
| Mike Hanna Berry and Adam Lechner. | 00:35:49 | |
| Are the three names that had the most votes. | 00:35:53 | |
| OK, we need a motion to approve those three names to be. | 00:35:56 | |
| Sent to the. | 00:36:00 | |
| Court right that the court. | 00:36:01 | |
| OK, do you need a motion? | 00:36:03 | |
| Hey, John. | 00:36:04 | |
| Is first we need. We have. | 00:36:06 | |
| I'll second. | 00:36:08 | |
| OK, then second. | 00:36:09 | |
| Any further discussion? | 00:36:11 | |
| OK, those in favor signify by saying aye. | 00:36:13 | |
| Aye, those opposed. | 00:36:15 | |
| Comment The board doesn't know what they have. When they have Mike Henry come, it's going to be. | 00:36:17 | |
| What? What were you thinking? | 00:36:24 | |
| Well, three of us are on the FSA committee, so we've had to deal with Mike. | 00:36:28 | |
| Their meetings are going to be longer. | 00:36:37 | |
| That's all. | 00:36:39 | |
| OK. I'm going to move on to the well testing. | 00:36:44 | |
| We're going to have that presentation tomorrow night and we've kind of already been talking about it. | 00:36:48 | |
| And the recommendation? | 00:36:53 | |
| John, do you want to talk about this resolution to the committee? Yeah, we had three rec. | 00:36:55 | |
| 3 proposals from. | 00:37:01 | |
| Emissary to come back for future well testing. | 00:37:04 | |
| First one was scenario A. It was continue the program as is. | 00:37:08 | |
| Testing the entire county, which would cost about $33,000 a year. | 00:37:14 | |
| Scenario B was to come back and focus on. | 00:37:20 | |
| The townships of Fox Lake. | 00:37:26 | |
| Trenton and Lam. | 00:37:28 | |
| And include any other well that tested 1 milligram per liter or higher in nitrates that would include an additional 73 wells. | 00:37:30 | |
| And that came in at 17,506 dollars. | 00:37:39 | |
| And the last scenario was. | 00:37:44 | |
| To include. | 00:37:47 | |
| The townships of Fox Lake, Trenton and Lamyra. | 00:37:48 | |
| And any wells that tested 5 milligrams per liter or higher? | 00:37:52 | |
| Spread throughout the rest of the county, which is an additional. | 00:37:57 | |
| 38 wells. | 00:37:59 | |
| At $14,036, what was the difference in the milliliters of the? | 00:38:01 | |
| Two and three, one milligram, up to 5 milligrams. | 00:38:07 | |
| And versus milliliters, so the second milliliters, I'm sorry, the milligrams per liter, milligrams per liter. | 00:38:10 | |
| So they're both the same measure. All right, So what was the second one? | 00:38:19 | |
| 55 grams, 5 milligrams and the first one is 1 milligram. | 00:38:24 | |
| Right, so. | 00:38:28 | |
| The first one being. | 00:38:29 | |
| Committee to option two, yeah. | 00:38:31 | |
| The committee selected scenario B, which is option 2, the 1 milligram per liter or higher, and the three townships. | 00:38:33 | |
| For a cost of $17,506.00 per year. | 00:38:40 | |
| So that's the resolution that is sitting there in front of you. | 00:38:44 | |
| Lot support. | 00:38:48 | |
| So I'd move for resolution. | 00:38:51 | |
| 2 for well testing. | 00:38:53 | |
| At a cost of about 17,000. OK. We have a motion for resolution option 2. Do we have a second? | 00:38:55 | |
| I'll second it. OK, John, seconds. | 00:39:02 | |
| Is there any further discussion? | 00:39:04 | |
| And then he will be there tomorrow night, right? | 00:39:06 | |
| Yes. | 00:39:08 | |
| So he'll be presenting tomorrow night. | 00:39:09 | |
| Kevin will be so. | 00:39:11 | |
| All right, those in favor signify by saying aye, aye, those opposed. | 00:39:15 | |
| OK. | 00:39:20 | |
| Get this sign in. | 00:39:21 | |
| Get going. | 00:39:23 | |
| All right. | 00:39:25 | |
| Go ahead and talk about the geological and Natural History. | 00:39:27 | |
| Ours next study. | 00:39:30 | |
| OK, I got a phone call from from them. | 00:39:32 | |
| The other day they back in 2017. | 00:39:35 | |
| They worked in Dodge County mapping the depth to bedrock for the county. | 00:39:39 | |
| They're looking at. | 00:39:46 | |
| Applying for a grant that would come up with some. | 00:39:47 | |
| A method to. | 00:39:52 | |
| Predict. | 00:39:54 | |
| Arsenic levels in wells. | 00:39:56 | |
| And they want to work in. | 00:39:58 | |
| Fond du Lac, Dodge and Jefferson County. | 00:40:00 | |
| So I just. | 00:40:03 | |
| For informational purposes for you, I gave them a. | 00:40:05 | |
| Letter of. | 00:40:10 | |
| Recommendation that they would. | 00:40:13 | |
| You know be be approved for this grant. | 00:40:14 | |
| So. | 00:40:17 | |
| Hopefully. | 00:40:17 | |
| They'll get it and come up with some kind of a model to start predicting. | 00:40:19 | |
| Arsenic levels. | 00:40:23 | |
| It's based off of. | 00:40:25 | |
| Up to bedrock, soil types, type of bedrock and things like that. So. | 00:40:27 | |
| So hopefully they'll get the grant and be able to come up with that. | 00:40:33 | |
| Who? What's the group seeking the grant? Again? It's the US or Wisconsin Geological and Natural History Survey. | 00:40:37 | |
| Oh, that's the people seeking it? Yeah. OK. Thank you. We don't need any action, just for information, OK. | 00:40:44 | |
| OK, farmland preservation updates. | 00:40:51 | |
| Notices and non compliance. | 00:40:53 | |
| Fred. I left him up on my desk. I have two. | 00:40:55 | |
| 2 land owners that want to get out of farmland preservation. | 00:41:00 | |
| Cheryl, can you run up? | 00:41:04 | |
| I don't even know where they're at, tell you truth. | 00:41:06 | |
| Do you need to have the names? | 00:41:09 | |
| No, you don't need to have the names. | 00:41:11 | |
| Well, it's OK. Sure. I don't. She doesn't have to go up then. No, I'll get him after the meeting if you. Yeah. Yeah. | 00:41:13 | |
| So I just have two land owners that want to get out of the out of the program and both of them primarily their renters. | 00:41:18 | |
| With nutrient management plan is an issue for the renter so. | 00:41:25 | |
| So do we have to do anything in the committee level? | 00:41:28 | |
| Just just. | 00:41:31 | |
| Authorize the approval of it and then you'll have to sign the form when I bring the folders down. | 00:41:32 | |
| OK. Do you want that today? | 00:41:37 | |
| If you do it today, we can do it next month. That's my mess up. We'll do it next month. I'll bring that back next. OK. Is any | 00:41:41 | |
| other particular names and we'll say OK, yeah. | 00:41:45 | |
| OK. | 00:41:49 | |
| Deer Program. | 00:41:51 | |
| The DNR, that's the DNR deer donation program. Yeah, Venison donation is a program that we participated in the last several years. | 00:41:54 | |
| They just want us to. | 00:42:04 | |
| Update our signature saying that we're going to authorize the program. | 00:42:06 | |
| Somebody can shoot. | 00:42:10 | |
| That deer and take it to certain processing plants and then they donated and get the venison gets donated to the food pantries in | 00:42:12 | |
| the county. That's awesome. Do we need a motion or? | 00:42:17 | |
| Yeah, I need a motion. Do they announce? | 00:42:22 | |
| What processing plants will be will be willing to. | 00:42:24 | |
| Yes, they get back to us like before was like Leroy meets over members. Yeah, Leroy meets and Pernod Hazzi's are usually the two. | 00:42:27 | |
| There used to be a few more, but they've kind of backed out. We got mainly 2 right now. | 00:42:34 | |
| It's really nothing on our part to do other than. | 00:42:38 | |
| We get a bill, we pay it, and then we submit reimbursement. | 00:42:42 | |
| It's like the rest of the wildlife damage program. | 00:42:45 | |
| Money flowing through the county. | 00:42:48 | |
| OK. OK. So I'm sorry. | 00:42:50 | |
| Do you want? | 00:42:55 | |
| Sure, I'll I will move to a second. | 00:42:56 | |
| I'll second it. OK, Dale, second. | 00:42:59 | |
| Any further discussion? | 00:43:01 | |
| Can't those in favor signify by seeing aye? | 00:43:04 | |
| Aye, OK, those opposed. | 00:43:07 | |
| OK, recap of the tour that we took. | 00:43:09 | |
| Southern area tour, you want to is that for all of us to talk for anybody that went to the tour if you want to? | 00:43:13 | |
| Talk about the high points in the Torah, what you got out of it. This is your time to do that. | 00:43:20 | |
| The two niche farmers on the may think can make a viable income. I mean, it's a lot of work. | 00:43:26 | |
| All that small guy, what they're doing, 35 acres. | 00:43:31 | |
| Gives us a lot of credit. | 00:43:36 | |
| What did you say? I'm sorry. | 00:43:37 | |
| What did you say that what did I just they have niche farmers that are going after. | 00:43:39 | |
| One, it's a pumpkin patch. | 00:43:44 | |
| Second one has. | 00:43:46 | |
| Half dozen different. | 00:43:48 | |
| Flowers. Vegetation. | 00:43:49 | |
| The animals he's trying to find? Ignition. | 00:43:52 | |
| And it's. | 00:43:55 | |
| A lot of work for not much money. He markets direct. | 00:43:57 | |
| To consumers, yeah, that one he's talking was a 35 acre farm, real small. And then he does a higher end product, right. It's more | 00:44:00 | |
| expensive to buy his chickens or his. It's all organic, right? Organic, organic. | 00:44:07 | |
| What's all value added and it's not. | 00:44:14 | |
| Bare bones producing. | 00:44:16 | |
| The organic farms, a young man's game. It's not this man's game. | 00:44:19 | |
| He moves it every, it tells you every day he has to move the coops and everything. Like it was like why? Why? | 00:44:24 | |
| Just for cleanliness? Well, no grazing. | 00:44:31 | |
| Pardon me, rotational grazing. | 00:44:34 | |
| Literally he moves the whole thing like he has a chain on it when it goes out there with a tractor and moves the thing. | 00:44:36 | |
| Up and down the field challenges too. You know, like. | 00:44:42 | |
| Weather and rain and. | 00:44:44 | |
| Yeah, there's a lot of can he moves the fences. | 00:44:46 | |
| Or electric anymore he's got chicken and flowers and in hens hogs, hogs hog she any moves those too. | 00:44:48 | |
| Layers Layer chickens and broiler chickens. | 00:44:56 | |
| Yeah, yeah. Guy works incredible amount of hours. He was enthusiastic. | 00:44:58 | |
| Yeah. | 00:45:04 | |
| Does he have any helpers or is he just making profit by doing it himself? | 00:45:05 | |
| Family. | 00:45:08 | |
| Yeah, that was. | 00:45:12 | |
| I thought the first place we went to the reservoir was was. | 00:45:15 | |
| Was pretty interesting I we went to a reservoir. | 00:45:19 | |
| I I mean the size of that project that. | 00:45:25 | |
| And, and and was that that's an NRCS project, right? | 00:45:27 | |
| Yeah, what? It was a wetland industry. It used to be a peat muck farm. | 00:45:30 | |
| So. | 00:45:35 | |
| That it was all tiled and. | 00:45:36 | |
| Pumped out so that they could actually farm it. | 00:45:39 | |
| And. | 00:45:42 | |
| The thing with the. | 00:45:43 | |
| That type of soil is. | 00:45:44 | |
| You you mine the nutrients out of it, even though you're still continuing to apply nutrients. | 00:45:46 | |
| Eventually that that soil. | 00:45:52 | |
| Becomes. | 00:45:54 | |
| Sterile. | 00:45:55 | |
| So then they trying to figure out what to do while they just decided to turn it back into wetlands. | 00:45:56 | |
| So it's. | 00:46:02 | |
| The DNR bought the land eventually and it'll be public access for hunting, bird watching, whatever. | 00:46:04 | |
| But 1800 acres landowner because he he went in a wetland reserve first, didn't he? And they paid him. | 00:46:11 | |
| For the reserve then after he did that. | 00:46:18 | |
| Then he sold it to the DNR. | 00:46:20 | |
| Yeah. | 00:46:21 | |
| Kind of a coup for him. I thought it was a good deal, but it's a big project. They pay the same amount. | 00:46:23 | |
| Even if. | 00:46:29 | |
| I don't think it was quite the same, but it was. | 00:46:30 | |
| Yeah, significant, Still significant. | 00:46:32 | |
| It was a 1800 acres, 1800 acres. It was a huge site and it was. | 00:46:35 | |
| Joining a bunch of other land that had already been. | 00:46:41 | |
| Turned back into wetlands, but it wasn't what some controversy because there's a very large. | 00:46:44 | |
| Poultry operation. | 00:46:48 | |
| Adjacent to it. | 00:46:50 | |
| And they were really concerned about the avian flu. | 00:46:52 | |
| Brought in by the waterfall. | 00:46:54 | |
| Hmm, like. | 00:46:56 | |
| Touching people who were. | 00:46:59 | |
| Touching one birds, touching the other birds they're. | 00:47:00 | |
| Polluting the reservoir or what? | 00:47:05 | |
| There no no docs unlimited trying to do wildlife and get more birds and stuff there and then the neighboring farmer has a poultry | 00:47:06 | |
| and he doesn't want his it's a budding. | 00:47:11 | |
| Yeah, property. He doesn't want to affect his. | 00:47:17 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:47:20 | |
| And it's a very large poultry operation. | 00:47:21 | |
| Yes, huge. | 00:47:23 | |
| And he already had the flu once and they had to decontaminate the whole thing. | 00:47:26 | |
| Right. Yeah. | 00:47:31 | |
| So I thought that was that was good the other the the ethanol at the last. | 00:47:34 | |
| One the size that operation was. | 00:47:38 | |
| Impressive. | 00:47:40 | |
| That was huge. | 00:47:41 | |
| That ethanol operation that was, it was more impressive to me was. | 00:47:42 | |
| There water that they put back in the system was so clean it could put it directly in the river. They didn't have to go through a | 00:47:46 | |
| wastewater. | 00:47:50 | |
| Facility. | 00:47:53 | |
| Water. | 00:47:55 | |
| That go and that eventually goes into the Rock River, right Is that we? | 00:47:57 | |
| Talked about that. | 00:48:00 | |
| It's refined. That's super confusing. | 00:48:01 | |
| They have their own internal. | 00:48:04 | |
| Cleaning systems. | 00:48:06 | |
| Know that their end product was so clean. I mean if their water coming through their system was so clean, they didn't have | 00:48:08 | |
| naturally process. | 00:48:11 | |
| Just naturally, it was so clean. | 00:48:14 | |
| They use water in their conversion. | 00:48:16 | |
| To the ethanol and then the. | 00:48:18 | |
| Water discharge. The discharge is is is is what he's seen in the process they use. It is extremely clean. | 00:48:22 | |
| And it discharges back in. | 00:48:30 | |
| Very clean, cool, so that. | 00:48:32 | |
| And how many, how many dollars is huge money, isn't it? Where you and I are trying to figure out how much money a day? That's | 00:48:37 | |
| huge, right? Huge money that that plant thought. I heard that they produce 1,000,000 gallons of ethanol every three days. | 00:48:42 | |
| And gets what he said every three days. | 00:48:47 | |
| And thereby trucks how many loads? They were saying how many? | 00:48:49 | |
| Trucks a day is is huge, right? Or 200 trucks a day? | 00:48:52 | |
| 200 trucks a day. | 00:48:55 | |
| So. | 00:48:58 | |
| I like the fact that it wasn't just open to bigger companies. | 00:49:01 | |
| Smaller individual farmers could come in as well with their product and. | 00:49:04 | |
| Yeah. | 00:49:09 | |
| Bringing it in. | 00:49:10 | |
| Yeah, don't like me how they do that, that pricing that's something pricing on that thing the farmers can. | 00:49:12 | |
| That's mainly future contracts, right? That's what that is. No, no, not only they can just do it right then. | 00:49:18 | |
| Yep. | 00:49:22 | |
| Wow. All right. Any other discussion on the trip? I thought it was AI thought it was a really good trip and I'm glad we went and. | 00:49:25 | |
| Thank you John for. | 00:49:33 | |
| Working with now, is that going to go to? | 00:49:35 | |
| Counties to hold? Yeah. Next year, Dane County. | 00:49:38 | |
| It rotates through the southern area. That 11 counties it rotates around. | 00:49:41 | |
| So next year is Dane County and I think it'll be another. | 00:49:46 | |
| Three or four years before it comes back to Dodge. | 00:49:50 | |
| OK, well, I think it's a worthwhile. I think we should go again. | 00:49:53 | |
| In the future, I, I think we should. I think it's good. | 00:49:58 | |
| So, umm. | 00:50:01 | |
| OK, review annual work plan. | 00:50:02 | |
| OK, I included that in your packet. | 00:50:06 | |
| This is the annual work plan that I submit every year when I do the annual report, so it's due February or March. | 00:50:10 | |
| This goes to Dad Cap. | 00:50:19 | |
| This is for your information only at this point in time. | 00:50:22 | |
| Um, since there will be. | 00:50:26 | |
| Hopefully time enough for whoever replaces me to work with this. | 00:50:29 | |
| I wouldn't make any changes or recommendations until the new person comes on board and let them get a chance to. | 00:50:35 | |
| Float their ideas by you before. | 00:50:42 | |
| You start. | 00:50:45 | |
| In this part but. | 00:50:46 | |
| This is what was submitted for 2025. | 00:50:49 | |
| When when does the? | 00:50:54 | |
| 26. | 00:50:56 | |
| Plan it's, it's due, I think it's either February or March, whenever the annual report is due. | 00:50:57 | |
| OK, I just. | 00:51:06 | |
| Kind of feel. | 00:51:07 | |
| Out of it. I mean it's 15 pages in the packet. | 00:51:08 | |
| OK. | 00:51:12 | |
| It's it's. I did see it. | 00:51:13 | |
| It's it's in a table format. | 00:51:15 | |
| Yeah, OK. Thanks. | 00:51:18 | |
| John, do you have the 300 feet of stream bank shoreline earmark anywhere? | 00:51:20 | |
| Table one, sorry. | 00:51:29 | |
| I don't think it specifically. | 00:51:34 | |
| States that. | 00:51:36 | |
| If I remember right. | 00:51:37 | |
| Under that we don't. | 00:51:41 | |
| We have stream monitoring Senissippi Lake, Rock River watershed. | 00:51:43 | |
| Yeah, that's with the Wildcat Creek project. That is the. | 00:51:47 | |
| Rock River Coalition is doing that for us. | 00:51:53 | |
| So in the. | 00:51:57 | |
| In the 10 year plan. | 00:51:58 | |
| We have a percentage of increased land and. | 00:52:00 | |
| So annually. | 00:52:05 | |
| Somewhere in here that. | 00:52:06 | |
| Needs to be added right? Like. | 00:52:07 | |
| Added. | 00:52:09 | |
| .5 acres or 15 acres? Or you're talking like for farmland preservation and nutrient management plans? | 00:52:10 | |
| I have it in here, but it's not percent. It's acres in here. | 00:52:17 | |
| Continue convert that to. | 00:52:22 | |
| Percent, because the other plan is percent and anybody that reviews it goes well. How are we on our percentage? Well, I don't | 00:52:24 | |
| know. | 00:52:27 | |
| I don't want to have to do math. | 00:52:31 | |
| You've been arithmetic. | 00:52:34 | |
| So that's the only thing I'd ask you. And is that stretched around this or is that just in the cropland soil health and nutrient | 00:52:36 | |
| management section? | 00:52:40 | |
| That's just in the first part there. | 00:52:45 | |
| There there's another thing for Frontline Preservation down a little bit farther, where it says sign up 2000 acres new to the | 00:52:48 | |
| program every year. | 00:52:52 | |
| So there again, it's not a percent, it's an acres. | 00:52:56 | |
| And then next thing with the front with the. | 00:53:03 | |
| So all the phosphorus runoff are the. | 00:53:06 | |
| 5000 Nutrient management plans a different 5000 from the cover crops. | 00:53:09 | |
| I'm guessing that's. | 00:53:15 | |
| Same overlapping. | 00:53:16 | |
| Cover crops is different than nutrient management, and it's different than farmland preservation. | 00:53:19 | |
| Yeah, cover crop is a practice that you. | 00:53:24 | |
| I understand they're different. I'm asking are they on the same acre? | 00:53:27 | |
| They can't. They could be, could be, but they don't have to be. Yeah. | 00:53:30 | |
| Because if you add up five and five and get 10,000. | 00:53:35 | |
| It's actually not necessarily 10,000 because it's gonna say yeah, it's for a practice. It's not. | 00:53:39 | |
| Yeah. So I guess what I'm asking is if you can put in something here. | 00:53:46 | |
| That says. | 00:53:51 | |
| X percentage of. | 00:53:52 | |
| Total acres. | 00:53:54 | |
| With. | 00:53:56 | |
| Either. | 00:53:56 | |
| Nutrient Manage plans. | 00:53:57 | |
| Cover crop. | 00:53:59 | |
| Whatever else you want. | 00:54:01 | |
| In there so that. | 00:54:02 | |
| That one line is in there and says. | 00:54:04 | |
| This is exactly the number of acres. | 00:54:05 | |
| Installed. | 00:54:09 | |
| And then you have to have the number of acres like these two guys coming out. | 00:54:11 | |
| So that you show net increase. | 00:54:15 | |
| Makes sense. Yeah, OK. | 00:54:20 | |
| Is that going to be hard to do? No. | 00:54:22 | |
| No, it's just wording. | 00:54:24 | |
| So the 300 feet of stream bank and shoreline have 1000 feet of stream bank we're looking at. | 00:54:27 | |
| And about 20 feet of shoreland. Do you want me to send that information to you? | 00:54:32 | |
| Sure, OK. | 00:54:36 | |
| We're. | 00:54:46 | |
| We're going to get our information. We're having drones. | 00:54:49 | |
| Go around and get our. | 00:54:52 | |
| You know how many miles are done and we need to get done. We'll have that at LSID. | 00:54:55 | |
| Eventually, but there were so we that was one of our our. | 00:55:00 | |
| Projects from our. | 00:55:03 | |
| One of our grants that we got, so they should, we should have that like you know, like Lisas wanting, you know, measurement. | 00:55:04 | |
| X amount of feet. | 00:55:10 | |
| And then this is what we want to do. | 00:55:12 | |
| But but. | 00:55:14 | |
| All right. Any other discussion on the we just need the net. | 00:55:16 | |
| Then yeah, increase, increase, yeah. | 00:55:19 | |
| So we will, I don't know who we make a note. | 00:55:22 | |
| Would to Cheryl or someone? | 00:55:24 | |
| Or depending on the transition goals and we need to revisit this in January then? | 00:55:27 | |
| Yeah. | 00:55:32 | |
| December. | 00:55:32 | |
| December meeting depending on OK, so you'll still. | 00:55:34 | |
| Be here, I won't. | 00:55:38 | |
| I won't. | 00:55:40 | |
| Be officially here for the meeting now. | 00:55:40 | |
| Be sitting back there watching. | 00:55:43 | |
| Making faces in. | 00:55:44 | |
| Well, can you, can you do this? Can you make this change before the end of the year so we could see the I can, I can. | 00:55:46 | |
| But I would recommend. | 00:55:53 | |
| Not making a lot of changes here until you have the new person on board so that they can come to you with their ideas what they | 00:55:55 | |
| want to do well. | 00:55:59 | |
| This is the what the committee is asking. | 00:56:03 | |
| Right of the conservationist. | 00:56:06 | |
| Like so the committee. | 00:56:08 | |
| Like. | 00:56:10 | |
| What's the conservation is going to say? I'm not going to give you your goal of net acre increase. | 00:56:11 | |
| Like. | 00:56:17 | |
| Is he going to say I refuse? | 00:56:17 | |
| That's our goal. | 00:56:19 | |
| And so we need to see the net. | 00:56:20 | |
| Acre increase and I'll make them changes for you. | 00:56:22 | |
| Thank you. | 00:56:25 | |
| Just before you. | 00:56:26 | |
| Officially leave. | 00:56:28 | |
| Yep, OK. | 00:56:29 | |
| And then they can see that next year. | 00:56:31 | |
| Right. And then they'll have that layout and then they'll see. | 00:56:33 | |
| What it is we're asking for? | 00:56:36 | |
| OK. | 00:56:41 | |
| Any other further discussion? I think we've got that one done. Update on the newer storage ordinance. | 00:56:44 | |
| OK. | 00:56:50 | |
| Most of the permits that are being issued. | 00:56:52 | |
| This year last year we've had two permits issued, this year, 2 permits issued last year. | 00:56:55 | |
| They're going to the larger farms, the large caples. | 00:57:00 | |
| We don't see a lot of small farms like we did. | 00:57:03 | |
| 15 years ago putting in manure storage anymore. | 00:57:06 | |
| So most of them are. | 00:57:10 | |
| You know, umm. | 00:57:12 | |
| The last four permits we've issued has all been to. | 00:57:13 | |
| Either a farm that is considered a CAFO or. | 00:57:16 | |
| Somebody that. | 00:57:20 | |
| Is right on that edge that should be, and it's getting ready to become a capful. | 00:57:22 | |
| So we've issued 2 permits this year. | 00:57:27 | |
| And. | 00:57:30 | |
| Pretty much everything since I've. | 00:57:30 | |
| Come into this position because this is what I used to do. I used to design all a lot of these manure pits and stuff. | 00:57:33 | |
| But the standards have changed so much since since I've come up here. | 00:57:40 | |
| This is all pretty much done by private engineers anymore. | 00:57:44 | |
| We just reviewed the plans, make sure that they meet the standards and specs. They get their elevations right and stuff. We don't. | 00:57:48 | |
| Go through and redesign them or anything like that. | 00:57:56 | |
| You know. | 00:57:58 | |
| So. | 00:58:00 | |
| It's state, it's state law, pretty much, right. Is it state law or is it this is a county or account? It's a county ordinance. | 00:58:01 | |
| That's a county we need. | 00:58:05 | |
| Do we need to change our ordinance to is it, does the state update its ordinances? And I mean do we need to change most of the | 00:58:09 | |
| counties have already updated there? | 00:58:12 | |
| New ordinances. Ours is overdue. | 00:58:16 | |
| Are so do we need? So do we need to? Then that's something that you should look at. I was considering doing this this last year. | 00:58:18 | |
| As I was reading through there, I think the. | 00:58:28 | |
| The biggest thing is to possibly include. | 00:58:32 | |
| Leachate runoff from from feed storage pads. | 00:58:36 | |
| Where right now they're not considered anything with our ordinance. It's not a manure storage ordinance, but some counties have | 00:58:40 | |
| included them because of the runoff. | 00:58:43 | |
| Is very potent on some of that stuff. | 00:58:48 | |
| So this has been on. | 00:58:51 | |
| The agenda to do this for like 4 years. | 00:58:53 | |
| Yeah, Yeah, You've been talking about this for four years. I think you need to at least give somebody coming on a rough draft. | 00:58:55 | |
| It's just really not fair to go. And by the way. | 00:58:59 | |
| I haven't started it and you get to start it from scratch. | 00:59:04 | |
| It's just not fair. Yeah, yeah. To give somebody a break, it's, it's a hard job. | 00:59:07 | |
| This goes through. | 00:59:12 | |
| Public information, public input and public. | 00:59:13 | |
| Forms and stuff like that, It's not something that I would just sit down, draft myself. Like things like our land, water, why | 00:59:17 | |
| don't we just get started on it? | 00:59:20 | |
| I'm like, why? Why are we gonna let the new person have to do the whole thing? | 00:59:24 | |
| We can, yeah. | 00:59:30 | |
| I mean, I don't know who's going to be there, but. | 00:59:33 | |
| They're already going to be kind of, I would guess, overwhelmed. It's a, it's a hard job and. | 00:59:38 | |
| Any other comments on this? | 00:59:47 | |
| Just said I'd like to put it on the agenda next month and see what started on it. | 00:59:49 | |
| OK. What is that like a six month process John, probably at least time you go through the public, Yeah, you got line up a team of | 00:59:55 | |
| farmers that are willing to sit on the panel, other agencies to sit on the panel and. | 01:00:00 | |
| Well, like we did with our land and water plan, we went through it. | 01:00:06 | |
| Cover to cover, you know this is what it says. | 01:00:09 | |
| These are some recommendations. What are your thoughts? How do you want to change this? It's it's going to be 6 months plus. Yeah, | 01:00:13 | |
| I'm just saying to get started. | 01:00:17 | |
| Could you for next month, could you give us? | 01:00:21 | |
| Up an outline, maybe help help us so we understand the process. Yeah, yeah, that would be helpful I think and then. | 01:00:25 | |
| The other thing is that you know the farmers. | 01:00:32 | |
| We don't know who we're hiring. | 01:00:34 | |
| You know people. | 01:00:35 | |
| And so if you even started that process of asking people because otherwise. | 01:00:37 | |
| You know you've got somebody that doesn't. | 01:00:42 | |
| Even know them. | 01:00:44 | |
| Asking. | 01:00:45 | |
| Which is a 10 times harder ask. | 01:00:46 | |
| Yeah, OK. | 01:00:48 | |
| I think it's a volunteer thing. It's not hired, right? Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's it's volunteer. | 01:00:50 | |
| That'll be challenging in itself. I volunteer, yeah. | 01:00:55 | |
| OK. All right. We'll keep, we'll keep that on there for next month and we'll get the process going. | 01:01:00 | |
| OK, we did #15. | 01:01:08 | |
| All right, down to the reports. | 01:01:10 | |
| I guess I'm off. | 01:01:15 | |
| OK, my report smaller this month. We had a fast meeting, a different chairman and the meeting was like less than an hour. | 01:01:20 | |
| Compared to three hours, so that was nice. We. | 01:01:27 | |
| Swore in our new commissioner, Jim Rashi. | 01:01:30 | |
| We had to approve a grant resolution. We're trying to get a grant, a grant. | 01:01:36 | |
| For the cost sure grant for shoreline conditions. | 01:01:42 | |
| The only interesting thing which I thought was we got our. | 01:01:47 | |
| Our fish docking permit and. | 01:01:49 | |
| In this year, we are stocking, I've mentioned this before, we're stocking a lot more fish. We're working with Rock River Rescue | 01:01:51 | |
| and we got some private donations. So we normally. | 01:01:57 | |
| Do $9000 efficient this year we're going to do 14,000. | 01:02:02 | |
| We're going to do. | 01:02:07 | |
| Of usually was just bluegills in the past, now they're going to do large mouth bass perch. | 01:02:08 | |
| And bluegill walleye. | 01:02:14 | |
| And they asked for muskies, but the DNR refused to allow us to have muskies. | 01:02:16 | |
| So. | 01:02:20 | |
| So anyway, that's that's what's going on there. | 01:02:22 | |
| And that's it for me. | 01:02:25 | |
| We completed our. | 01:02:30 | |
| Mapping of Beaver and lake The sonar mapping every 100 feet across lake that. | 01:02:32 | |
| Data has gone through the DNR from. | 01:02:36 | |
| Putting into a lake bottom map and a lake condition map. | 01:02:39 | |
| We've submitted 2 grants surface water grants to DNR. | 01:02:45 | |
| One for Mill Creek shoreline restoration. | 01:02:49 | |
| And the second one for a vegetative study of Rakes Bay. | 01:02:52 | |
| Point intercept. | 01:02:56 | |
| And those are due today for if you have any surface water grants from the other districts. | 01:02:58 | |
| Trestle Bay. If you recall we removed in October 130,000 lbs of carp and Buffalo. | 01:03:05 | |
| We have done a vegetative study there and found. | 01:03:12 | |
| Lacking in most areas. | 01:03:16 | |
| And hopefully, without those rough fish, it'll return to a better state. | 01:03:18 | |
| Will be stocking a 4500 Bluegills in there tomorrow. | 01:03:23 | |
| To be the predator for the. | 01:03:26 | |
| Carp eggs and. | 01:03:29 | |
| Young of the Year. | 01:03:32 | |
| So we hope that becomes a bio stabilization of that Bay because of the. | 01:03:33 | |
| Blue Go. | 01:03:37 | |
| And over the next week, crystalline is going to go back in there to. | 01:03:40 | |
| To Electro fishing to get a count. | 01:03:44 | |
| Of how many carp and Buffalo are left in that Bay? | 01:03:47 | |
| So that'll give us a start point from October. | 01:03:51 | |
| Work over the summer time. | 01:03:53 | |
| And endpoint for the fall. | 01:03:55 | |
| We've started the same type of process for Rakes Bay off of Hwy. G. | 01:03:58 | |
| You've talked to a number of the. | 01:04:03 | |
| Residents. | 01:04:05 | |
| To allow us to enter the Bay through the property. | 01:04:07 | |
| So that's the first step to get the research boat in there to do the Electro fishing. | 01:04:09 | |
| And then eventually the commercial fishermen. | 01:04:14 | |
| To send down the population. | 01:04:16 | |
| So that's will begin and the. | 01:04:18 | |
| 30th of this month. | 01:04:21 | |
| First, the meeting to put that data together and. | 01:04:22 | |
| Get the people lined up. | 01:04:25 | |
| How big are the bluegills when you put them in there? | 01:04:27 | |
| Primary How big are the bluegills? 3 to 5 inches. | 01:04:29 | |
| And hopefully they reproduce over the winter and have some spawning in the spring and. | 01:04:34 | |
| They develop more little bluegills. | 01:04:40 | |
| But the primary thing is to eat the eggs of the carp. | 01:04:42 | |
| And get the fingerlings. | 01:04:44 | |
| So they don't reproduce anymore. | 01:04:46 | |
| Have you located any rigs Bay access points yet? Yes. | 01:04:49 | |
| The. | 01:04:55 | |
| Landings at High Ouija will allow us to bring the fishing boats in there. | 01:04:57 | |
| And the. | 01:05:01 | |
| Lawn Farm along Jeep will allow us to use their access to the to the. | 01:05:02 | |
| That's great. | 01:05:07 | |
| OK, go ahead. | 01:05:11 | |
| Yeah, OK. For Fox Lake. | 01:05:13 | |
| MCO reported that's the company that the. | 01:05:17 | |
| District hires to maintain a wastewater system. | 01:05:21 | |
| Had suggested five years ago to replace some pumps it would cost $20,000 each. | 01:05:25 | |
| And they kind of postponed that. | 01:05:30 | |
| And now they were informed that the pumps are almost double that price. | 01:05:33 | |
| So we still. | 01:05:37 | |
| On hold. | 01:05:39 | |
| And then the district made a request to the town of Fox Lake and they're represented by Liz because she was wanted to be. | 01:05:41 | |
| Ask the town to allow them to install straw bales. | 01:05:48 | |
| In Township road ditches wherever there was a lot of. | 01:05:52 | |
| High water flow. | 01:05:55 | |
| Fast water flow just to slow down the water. | 01:05:56 | |
| And at first, the town of. | 01:06:00 | |
| Approve the request and then even suggested a sink fence along Quaker farms which is a capable. | 01:06:02 | |
| Near Fox Lake. | 01:06:08 | |
| But she informed us that. | 01:06:12 | |
| After she left, the town reconvened a meeting and reversed her decisions so they could study it farther. | 01:06:13 | |
| A problem had occurred when. | 01:06:22 | |
| Fox Lake Preservation Organization. | 01:06:24 | |
| That's the the private group. | 01:06:26 | |
| Of Fox Lake. | 01:06:28 | |
| Paid for and installed a kayak launch in the town park. | 01:06:30 | |
| But they never informed the. | 01:06:34 | |
| Township that they were responsible for maintaining. | 01:06:36 | |
| The launch. | 01:06:39 | |
| So it was never removed during the winter and it got. | 01:06:40 | |
| Damaged severely over winter and the Township had to pay to repair it, so there was a little lack of communication there. | 01:06:44 | |
| Didn't go over so well. | 01:06:51 | |
| And then Tracy's also reached out to Cho Joel. | 01:06:55 | |
| I think it pronounced his name Pallardy. | 01:06:59 | |
| Who left EOR? | 01:07:02 | |
| To go to a different company and she wanted. | 01:07:04 | |
| From him discussions on well, there's a discord between EOR and Fox Lake right now. There's lack of communication. | 01:07:07 | |
| They did the lake management plan. | 01:07:14 | |
| And she wanted to ask him for suggestions. | 01:07:16 | |
| He probably had a sign, a nondisclosure 'cause that he couldn't work. | 01:07:21 | |
| For the Fox Lake, you know, after he left. But anyway, he was. | 01:07:24 | |
| Vacation at the time, so we're still waiting for a response. | 01:07:28 | |
| And then on the agenda was another discussion of the nano bubblers. | 01:07:36 | |
| But Liz Or say she's the new commissioner. | 01:07:41 | |
| Made the comment that she was questioning the science and feasibility of nano bubblers. | 01:07:44 | |
| So we just. | 01:07:49 | |
| Try to decided to go slow and just wait for more research before moving on any farther. | 01:07:50 | |
| And then Liz went on that she thought the best way to improve. | 01:07:59 | |
| Quality of the lake was. | 01:08:03 | |
| To do. | 01:08:05 | |
| To work with farmers in area to improve the watershed. So she wants to have another meeting to find out the best way to reach out | 01:08:07 | |
| to farmers. | 01:08:11 | |
| To change their practices to. | 01:08:15 | |
| Have cleaner water get into the. | 01:08:18 | |
| Into the lake. | 01:08:22 | |
| So she we're having meeting on September 22nd to discuss a strategy. | 01:08:23 | |
| To involve farmers. | 01:08:28 | |
| And then the only other thing I wanted to mention was. | 01:08:31 | |
| This happened the last meeting where? | 01:08:33 | |
| We're all aware of. | 01:08:38 | |
| Bill Foley's. | 01:08:39 | |
| Attempts to reduce carp and Beaver Dam lake and although they're not a severe problem and Fox lake we just thought that maybe we | 01:08:41 | |
| should reach out to see once. | 01:08:45 | |
| If we could get ahead of the problem and see if there's anything that could be done so. | 01:08:49 | |
| Liz Forward. | 01:08:54 | |
| A question to Arthur Watkinson, who is the DNR Lakes biologist. | 01:08:56 | |
| And he in turn contacted Mark. | 01:08:59 | |
| Bob Locke, the DNR fisheries biologist. | 01:09:02 | |
| What could be done? And I want to. | 01:09:05 | |
| I want to read you the the answer that they gave Liz. | 01:09:07 | |
| And this is. | 01:09:11 | |
| From Arthur Watkinson, he said. I know I have chatted with Mark about this in the past when that has been brought up. | 01:09:12 | |
| Mark doesn't. | 01:09:17 | |
| Does a much more complete and eloquent job describing car population dynamics. | 01:09:18 | |
| But in a nutshell, Fox Lake fisheries and tremendous state currently awesome walleye, largemouth bass, panfish populations, and | 01:09:23 | |
| even an occasional giant muskie. | 01:09:27 | |
| He said there is a population. | 01:09:33 | |
| Of. | 01:09:35 | |
| Low ability to produce offspring carp on Fox Lake. | 01:09:36 | |
| So, he said, the harvest of carb could. | 01:09:40 | |
| Elicit A compensatory response from the carp, causing more harm than good. | 01:09:42 | |
| By switching the population to. | 01:09:47 | |
| A higher. | 01:09:50 | |
| Ability to produce offspring. | 01:09:51 | |
| Carp. We kind of thought what? | 01:09:53 | |
| And also. | 01:09:56 | |
| Tracy reached out to another guy, the guy that helped us in the past with our wake board. | 01:09:59 | |
| Ordinance. | 01:10:05 | |
| This is John Richter and. | 01:10:06 | |
| Quite a large area. | 01:10:10 | |
| Off of Fox Lake, that's in the marsh and Elto Creek area. | 01:10:12 | |
| All that water comes into Fox Lake. | 01:10:16 | |
| And she wanted to know his opinion on this response. | 01:10:18 | |
| And his answer was. | 01:10:23 | |
| One of our guys is in your area frequently in the spring and summer. His exact statement about our marsh. | 01:10:25 | |
| Which is a major spring spawning area and habitat for carp through the summer. | 01:10:31 | |
| His answer was. | 01:10:36 | |
| To John. | 01:10:37 | |
| I haven't seen a cart back there in five years. The car boats don't even go back there anymore. | 01:10:38 | |
| And then John says that has been my experience. | 01:10:45 | |
| Two, there is a prize that. | 01:10:49 | |
| The population had been so intense in our Martian to spring and summer. | 01:10:52 | |
| That we could. | 01:10:55 | |
| Bump car, but the outboard every few feet. | 01:10:56 | |
| We had very few macrophytes then and often planted rice. | 01:11:00 | |
| Sago etcetera to try to get something going. The most we ever had was native **** tail. | 01:11:03 | |
| But the carp foraging pretty much tore everything out. | 01:11:08 | |
| But today it is a sea of **** tail and Lily pads. Rice has taken and returned in the last five years and overall it is a very | 01:11:12 | |
| healthy environment. | 01:11:16 | |
| So it's changed. | 01:11:21 | |
| I don't know why, but it's changed. | 01:11:23 | |
| That's all I have. | 01:11:26 | |
| What day did you meet? | 01:11:28 | |
| September. | 01:11:30 | |
| 11. | 01:11:33 | |
| Think the DNR fishery is correct? | 01:11:35 | |
| Once you get to a point where it's a manageable. | 01:11:37 | |
| Pounds per acre. | 01:11:39 | |
| So if you blow. | 01:11:41 | |
| £89 per acre. | 01:11:43 | |
| You can. | 01:11:44 | |
| Just use biological. | 01:11:45 | |
| Remediation. | 01:11:47 | |
| You don't have to capture them. | 01:11:49 | |
| If you're the higher areas. | 01:11:50 | |
| US fish a while. I've say it's severe and causes damage. | 01:11:52 | |
| So now you're fighting the reproduction. | 01:11:56 | |
| And the damage they do against the biological recovery. | 01:11:58 | |
| So at £89 per acre. | 01:12:02 | |
| You're OK. | 01:12:05 | |
| You can have natural means to control that. | 01:12:06 | |
| So my question is they said their carpet so bad in that area. | 01:12:08 | |
| And just by. | 01:12:13 | |
| Them planting made a difference, you think? | 01:12:15 | |
| I mean I'm trying to figure what made the difference. Combination of the game, fish and good vegetation. | 01:12:17 | |
| Habitat, uh. | 01:12:22 | |
| So that's why we're looking at Trestle Bay so hard. | 01:12:24 | |
| To see what that is, that's a microcosm of our lake. | 01:12:27 | |
| So by pulling out those fish to bring it down to a manageable volume. | 01:12:30 | |
| Will that allow that trestle Bay Area to be a good fishery? | 01:12:35 | |
| You do know Fox Lake was overrun? | 01:12:39 | |
| Was Northern Pike, in fact. | 01:12:40 | |
| So much so that it was reducing pan fish populations they wanted to. | 01:12:42 | |
| They asked the GNR to take the limit off a northern Pike, but. | 01:12:46 | |
| They refused. | 01:12:49 | |
| Pan Fish Beaver Dam Lake was went down to 1 bluegill per acre. | 01:12:51 | |
| So that's 6000 bluegills for the whole lake. | 01:12:56 | |
| That's pretty insignificant, yeah. | 01:12:58 | |
| We're putting more bluegills in. | 01:13:01 | |
| This week than is in the lake right now. | 01:13:03 | |
| SO40500A, Trestle and 15,000. | 01:13:05 | |
| Different parts of the lake. | 01:13:09 | |
| You need diversity. You have to have the diversity of the fish. | 01:13:12 | |
| Population. | 01:13:14 | |
| And hopefully you got that. That's what he's saying. | 01:13:15 | |
| John the Little Bluegills. | 01:13:19 | |
| Eat the eggs, but who eats the little blue? | 01:13:21 | |
| People. | 01:13:25 | |
| You think? You think they're overfished? | 01:13:27 | |
| Yeah, the. | 01:13:29 | |
| Pan fish for Beaver Dam Lake is at the Conservation Congress. | 01:13:31 | |
| Go from 25 back limit to 10. | 01:13:34 | |
| And that should happen next year. | 01:13:37 | |
| That's I was asking how big the bluegills are and when you put them in. | 01:13:39 | |
| 5 to 6 inches. | 01:13:43 | |
| But some people keep even the small ones. | 01:13:45 | |
| I was not good. | 01:13:47 | |
| But there are a lot of crappies in it. Like there are crappies but they don't eat the eggs, no. | 01:13:50 | |
| All right. | 01:13:57 | |
| Next meeting for the 27th, 8:30 so it'll be the end of next month. Is everyone good? Can we change that to the 20th? | 01:14:03 | |
| We have a Southern area meeting on the 27th at 9:00 AM. | 01:14:11 | |
| OK, hang on. | 01:14:15 | |
| I just. | 01:14:17 | |
| I wouldn't have any issues, I'm sorry. | 01:14:22 | |
| I won't long until that week I got selected for jury. | 01:14:26 | |
| So just I just shut the. | 01:14:30 | |
| So more likely I'll be here, but you know, don't know. | 01:14:33 | |
| You'll be in another building right over there. | 01:14:37 | |
| Their crimes coming up. | 01:14:40 | |
| All right, so. | 01:14:42 | |
| I'm fine with either. | 01:14:44 | |
| OK. | 01:14:45 | |
| Anyone else? | 01:14:46 | |
| So the question is you. | 01:14:47 | |
| Want to? | 01:14:51 | |
| On October. | 01:14:56 | |
| I'm sorry. | 01:14:57 | |
| It's scheduled for the 27th and you're saying there's an SAA meeting instead at 8:32 or 8:00? That's at 9:00. | 01:15:00 | |
| But it's in Madison. Madison, yeah. | 01:15:08 | |
| Let's all just put SA. | 01:15:15 | |
| Are you OK with the 20th Lisa? | 01:15:17 | |
| I think so. | 01:15:19 | |
| Go back to the 20th. | 01:15:23 | |
| Which is. | 01:15:25 | |
| A week before. | 01:15:26 | |
| And that would be at 8:30. | 01:15:27 | |
| Yeah. OK. So I'll go 8:30 on. | 01:15:29 | |
| October 20th. | 01:15:33 | |
| Any future agenda items? We've kind of already talked about some of the things we went on there. Is there any other additional? | 01:15:36 | |
| OK, hearing none, I call the meeting adjourned for the deletion of the agenda. | 01:15:46 | |
| Thank you. | 01:15:50 | |
| Should we have her retype this? | 01:15:52 | |
| You want to. | 01:15:55 | |
| I just gotta pick it up from like you did. Look at two years old efficient look at your. | 01:15:56 |